wiegraf:

Though you mysteriouslynesses cannot show how.

please show me how freewill counters omniscience.

Now, harbinger of doom, you miss the points. For one, accountability. Why did he place the lion in there in the first, full well knowing (and creating) what lions do?

Why give the lion the lion freewill if he did not want it to use it? Couldn't he have just created robots to do his bidding?

first, humans have freewill, they choose what to do. Some choose evil, others choose good.(God)

Why would God find pleasure in using robots and communing with robots who cannot understand anything except fulfilling their programming? God did not just create humans to do his bidding, he created man in his image, to also fellowship with him. Commune I mean.(You won't understand what that entails, since you're an atheist who does not know God or God-communion)

We are ignoring omnixx for the most part, mind you. It worsens the situation. For instance, that is a really poor excuse for his amger. He knows it won't amount to much yet he still gets angry? Or he knows the act will help him get a leg up, spurring some to his (totally subjective) 'good'? So if he knew they were going to be bad eventually, why create them? You would create something you knew you were going to roast forever?? Well....

he created you. That's a totally different account from your actions. He didn't create you to roast forever.

Answer this question: do you want to roast forever?

As I said in that quote, God does create anyone to roast forever, and he certainly does not want anyone to roast forever.(He sent Jesus, so your actions against good would be forgiven and you would escape roasting forever)

You only show you want to roast forever by your actions.

One more thing, your analogy is preposterous wiegraf.

dr.laykay:

We are on the same page.this is my point exactly.so let's stay and learn together

as I said, omniscience and freewill are exclusive.

Kay 17:

Good point!

However note that all human populations are from the same roots (Adam and Eve), even though you would argue that Adam and Eve have perfect genes, yet all their descendants ought to experience the same rates of entropy with the same extents as inbreeding

The fact we don't have that and the fact there is a great deal of diversity in homo sapiens, takes away credibility from Adam/Eve theory to human evolution.

no ma'am. I don't think genetics teaches us that.

Inbreeding would drastically increase the probably of gross genetic disorders.

I made this post just now on another topic like this.

Op, freewill and Gods omniscience are parallel.
God just knows the future.
And we make our choices.
They are exclusive.
Imagine time travel is possible, and you travel to the
future as an observer. You know how everything will
play out.
That does not stop people from making their choices
in the past, or spoil people's freewill.
So we understand that God does not want people to
go to hell from his very act of dieing for them and
justifying them through Jesus Christ.
God does not want anyone to go to hell. The bible
also says God is our judge. So that means he must
give each person a chance to make the right choice.
The very fact that God is angry when relating with
men show he does not enforce his omniscience
when he relates with us.
I hope you're clear.
God bless.

Op, freewill and Gods omniscience are parallel.

God just knows the future.
And we make our choices.
They are exclusive.

Imagine time travel is possible, and you travel to the future as an observer. You know how everything will play out.
That does not stop people from making their choices in the past, or spoil people's freewill.

So we understand that God does not want people to go to hell from his very act of dieing for them and justifying them through Jesus Christ.

God does not want anyone to go to hell. The bible also says God is our judge. So that means he must give each person a chance to make the right choice.

The very fact that God is angry when relating with men show he does not enforce his omniscience when he relates with us.

I hope you're clear.

God bless.