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Politics / Re: Igbo's Should Wake Up , Biafra Is A Dream - Etcetera by vicenzo(m): 9:11am On Aug 01, 2015
"The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams." – Eleanor
Biafra is indeed a beautiful dream.
"There is only one thing that makes a dream impossible to achieve: the fear of failure." – Paulo Coelho
"The exact level of tyranny that you're going to live under, is the level of tyranny you put up with." ~Thomas Jefferson

"One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore".~ Andre Gide
Politics / Re: Igbo's Should Wake Up , Biafra Is A Dream - Etcetera by vicenzo(m): 9:03am On Aug 01, 2015
"The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams." – Eleanor
Biafra is indeed a beautiful dream.

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Politics / Re: Nigeria Assumes Presidency Of UN Security Council by vicenzo(m): 8:56am On Aug 01, 2015
I see.
Politics / Re: Igbo's Should Wake Up , Biafra Is A Dream - Etcetera by vicenzo(m): 8:52am On Aug 01, 2015
zendy:



If I cannot stand war to fight for my own freedom then it means I am not a man. What will happen? Death? Hunger? Loss of property? I am prepared to through all those things to get my freedom as an Igbo man. But it is really strange that a Yoruba or Hausa man who has no historical connection with the Igbo is prepared to fight a war to be with Igbos, really strange

It's not strange, it's the very fundamental characteristics of parasitism.

To be effective, parasites must be of different specie and genus from their hosts. The further the differences or lack of similarity a parasite has with it's host, the more effective it becomes in evolving properties and mechanisms that will prevent the host from ridding itself of the parasite.

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Politics / Re: An Open Letter To All Agitators Of Biafra by vicenzo(m): 8:46am On Aug 01, 2015
The earlier Yorubas focus more on how to pull away from Odua-Arewa future country, and less on Biafra, the better for them.

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Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 2:31am On Jul 21, 2015
Kagawash07:

Liar, show the link where you cull that poem from?
How many time do I have to tell a brain dead eediot like you that the unitary system Ironsi introduced made it possible for all revenue to be zoned to the FG before it's shared among the states and at that time, Lagos was the capital of Nigeria!
Gosh, what kind of dunce are ibo breeding!


https://www.nairaland.com/381076/why-ibos-hell-bent-claiming/11
Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 2:21am On Jul 21, 2015
Kagawash07:

Wow, Biafra never invaded Benin, Ore, Calabar e.t.c?
Ibo and lies!
Bunch of dishonest land grabbers!
Will you stop lamenting that the Hausa exploited the system your cursed man forced on us! If that goat, Ironsi hadn't done such, no one would steal anyone resource!
Bunch of wailing 5th class citizen!

Incase you have forgotten, the Eastern minorities are the focus of my argument, not the Midwest minorities.

We couldn't get to Lagos without passing through Midwest , could we? Lagos was the destination, not Midwest.

The Midwestern Igbos like the Eastern Igbos have a perfect understanding and relative peace with the non Igbo groups there, there was never a case of land grabbing. Anioma borders with Isoko, Bini, Esan are clear with no ambiguity. The land grabbing exists only in your head, perhaps because you come from a culture were savagery as exemplified by conquering, subduing and lording it over weaker groups is hailed as bravery.
Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 2:06am On Jul 21, 2015
Kagawash07:

Same Saro wiwa who said if the civil war was to repeat itself, he would take the same decision to defend his land from the land grabbers!
Yes, he lamented the unitary govt which was forced on us by that cursed fool, Ironsi but the good thing is that he defended his land!

Wiwa never said such. When Wiwa recognized he had been played by the cursed and dubious Awo, he ran back to Ndiigbo, he attended Ohanaeze meeting and begged for forgiveness.

It was about same time, he wrote that his long poem, I posted part of here.

Awo deserved the fate that befell him, he toyed with lots of destinies and created lots of bitter hearts against him.

You can imagine how heartbroken Wiwa became, when he saw the crude oil wealth siphoned by Awo( and his Arewa masters) to Lagos, while Ogoni land laid in ruins, after Adekunle had finished shooting all that moves there. Such amount of treachery and deception was never going to be allowed to go unpunishment by mother nature. Awo had it coming.
Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 1:58am On Jul 21, 2015
Kagawash07:

When the cursed fool, Ironsi truncated Nigerdelta secession and jailed Isaac Boro, they weren't brothers?
Bunch of greedy parasitic wailing 5th class citizen Ijaw slaves!

Deal with the truth. Niger deltans know who used their crude oil wealth to build Lagos and now Abuja.

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Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 1:54am On Jul 21, 2015
Kagawash07:

Eediot, you forgot the unitary system your cursed kinsmen, Ironsi introduced was still in place?
And a dunce like doesn't know that according to the unitary system, all states revenues are to go to FG before it's shared back to the states?
What a dumb eediot!

Mpama. Ironsi never implemented the unitary system before he was killed. He was killed for floating the idea. He merely united the civil service.

It was your greed for Eastern region crude oil wealth that drove your cursed Awo and Gowon into adopting unitary government, and then creating anomalies known as states to serve as your conduit in siphoning the crude wealth. Same greed drove Awo into committing suicide, and same greed will ensure you become eternally enslaved in an Islamic country with your Arewa masters, after Biafra secession,
Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 1:45am On Jul 21, 2015
Lol! Eastern region had always been multiethnic. It is so because the most populous ethnic group in the region, Ndiigbo are not empire builders. We lived in our mini village republics and allowed the minorities. be. We were never savages roaming around looking for who to conquer and Lord over. Live and let live is the standard of offor and ogu that guides Igbo societies.

Only a silly and blind Eastern minority buys the story of Igbo land grabbing. Okpara facilitated the movement of Shell headquarters from Owerri to PH, Gowon and his gang went to Kaduna and built a refinery to siphon ND crude oil, Awo facilitated the transfer and establishment of crude oil Coys to Lagos.

Spot the difference.
Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 1:37am On Jul 21, 2015

Aaa!
Why,
Brother, can’t you see?
The monsters come
They come to us
Call us each to one side
And say:
I set a prize
Here is a string of blades
Blunt blades, you can see
Only wrap them
Around your ankles
Around your wrists
Around your fist
And fight your brother!
You are right
But he is wrong
I set a prize
Fight!
And we fight each other
And while we are cut up
In the fight
The monsters go out
Stealthily
Like a jesting ripple at sea
And carter away
The wealth in our house
And it occurs again
Another time
They ante up butchery prizes
And we fight and wound
Why, why, why?
Brother mine!
Why do we fight!



It all became clear to Saro Wiwa with the advantage of hindsight, alas it was too late for him.
Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 1:35am On Jul 21, 2015
Saro Wiwa being myopic and lacking in foresight was unable to see that, but with the advantage of hindsight, he realized the game the Monsters( Arewa-Odua) played on the East.
Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 1:31am On Jul 21, 2015
"With the war ended, and as a
Commissioner in Rivers State, I soon
found that the Rivers State for which I had
fought did not end my nightmare. In the
first place, oil money from Ogoni country
(as well as Ijaw country) was being carted
away to Lagos, leaving the Ogoni illiterate
and backward. This is anti-federalism".



Here is what Saro Wiwa have to say about Gowon-Awo greed. They sinked a conduit pipe in Eastern region, siphoned the wealth of the region to Lagos, and then later Abuja.

While at the same time creating diversion through divide and steal by firstly pitching the rest of the East against Igbos, and when Igbos were gone, they pitched the rest of the Eastern minorities against Ijaws, and while the East was boiling and fighting each other, they carted away with crude oil wealth of the region, as heavy infrastructures were being built in Lagos and Later in Abuja, as if it was there that the war took place.
Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 1:20am On Jul 21, 2015
Kagawash07:

So as to make it easier for ibos to continue to claim SS land? Buhaha!
Moreso, Gowon created states as a result of Biafrans invading people's region such as Benin, Ore, Calabar e.t.c
I repeat, state creation is the best thing that ever happen to Nigeria. Atleast with the state creation, we can boldly say Nigeria aint in dark age because no top countries are without states! However, cursed be unto that fool, Ironsi, his generation and whoever support him for tampering with our true federalism!

Awo is already cursed, only a cursed man commits suicide. He will remain cursed for conniving with Gowon to create anomalies called states, which had helped to increase the cost of governance in Nigeria to astronomical level, as well as serving as conduit pipes with which he and Gowon siphoned the crude oil wealth of the East to Odua and Arewa lands.

Cursed May he remain! Isee!
Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 11:36pm On Jul 20, 2015
Kagawash07:

Why are there so many ibo dunces on NL? @onenaira, come and see one of your disciple!
And this eediot keep repeating states creation! How many developed top countries out there are without states? You want us to be stucked in medieval age, just like that fool, Ironsi took us back into dark ages with his unitary system!
What does regionalism/resource control have to do with creating of states anyway?
Infact, the creation of states is the best thing that ever happen to Nigeria, all we need to complement it is the revival of our regionalism/resource control which that cursed fool, Ironsi destroyed!
And only a dumbo like yot would keep arguing that!

You need brain transplant Surgery.

The region should have been allowed to stay as they were, and then each region should create and run as many states as it could Carter and need. That way, the land use decree wouldn't have been created and the lopsided state creations and LGAs that Serve as conduits to siphon ND crude oil wealth wouldnt have been created.

It was your cursed and damned Awo and power drunk Gowon that dissolved the regions, reduced the derivation formula, and Obj would go on to create the land use decree.

You are silly and retarded if you are going to hold Ironsi responsible for Awo and Gowon actions, in addition to OBJ's.
Politics / Re: Nigeria My Home, Nigeria My Father Land God Bless F.R.N by vicenzo(m): 10:35pm On Jul 20, 2015
Akuko n'egwu.
Politics / Re: PMB Embarrasses Nigerians Again by vicenzo(m): 8:20pm On Jul 20, 2015
eagleeye2:
Abeg ohh, make una give this man time to effect change. Even if it's change in his party's name.

Lol!
Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 5:31pm On Jul 20, 2015
Imokay:


Nigeria tied you down or gave you opportunity? What were eboe achievements before Nigeria, which empire did you build, which other country can eboe influence be traced to before Nigeria. You people like to deceive yourself, you can't even point to any meaningful history about your people before the colonialist came yet you falsely claim to be the best in this and that.

Igbo achievements before Nigeria,

Relatively peaceful co existence with our non Igbo neighbors.

A highly evolved mini republics with democratic flavour and community policing.

Highly developed art works in Igbo ukwu.

Yoruba achievements before Nigeria:

Getting ass whooped by Nupe and Fulanis

Building a village empire of clustered mudhouses with no regard for ventilation or living spaces.

Incapable of evolving a democracy, roaming about like savages looking for each other to subdue and rule over.
In capable of co existing in relative peace with each other,let alone with non Yoruba groups, having local fatal wrestling matches with each other they termed kiriji wars.

Ife artworks were not better than those of Igbo ukwu or Nri.
Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 5:20pm On Jul 20, 2015
destinysaid:
are u delusional?? No make me vex o, u Igbos are shouting marginalisation ...... The pic below is from wikipedia, how d Igbos wanted to dominate south south

Another Yoruba propaganda. Not to worry, I am your nemesis.

Now read this and forever die in shame; http://scannewsnigeria.com/news/willink-report-1958-the-following-are-excerpts-from-a-the-report-of-the-commission-appointed-to-enquire-into-the-fears-of-minorities-and-the-means-of-allaying-them-otherwise-known-a/
Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 5:07pm On Jul 20, 2015
Imokay:


See daftness, the smart man does everything possible to ensure his home does not become a battle ground, for even in victory it can only be Pyrrhic. Now imagine if you lose the contest, what will you feel like? Just what Eboes are going through now, psychologically, they are always under siege,

USA has participated in 2 world wars, Korean war, Vietnam war and countless others, at what time did bombs go off on homeland soil? In your warped theory that makes them cowards. Yorubas ensured that our homeland never became a theater of war, as we have experienced what war means during our own civil war and external aggression. We are a people of history and we were not ready for any senseless war. Eboe never had any empire so they are welcome to try their hands on modern day empire building such as the failed Biafra project.

Yoruba Generals decimated your failed empire as all your attempts to drag us in failed with bombing of civilians in Lagos (a very friendly act?) and accepted unconditional surrender from Ebo generals after your CinC fled with tails between his legs.

The truth is you need our consent to make any successful attempt to form your own country otherwise you won't be foaming in the mouth here and feel bitter we did not join you on your suicide mission. For now that consent remains withheld until you lot sign an undertaking of good behavior henceforth grin

Lol@ Yoruba generals. Yoruba Generals that were panicking over the Northern occupation of Lagos, the same Yoruba generals that were sent packing by Nupe warriors who ransacked Oyo Ile, the then capital of Oyo and forced Oyo to relocate more south.
The same Generals that were whooped by Fulanis in Kwara and till this day remain subservient to Fulanis in Kwara?

Lol! Only in " suffersticated" lands are Cowardice and fear hailed as tact and common sense!

A people that can't even free their land from Fulanis in Kwara are now the one to give consent to Biafra? What a bunch of comedians.
Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 4:20pm On Jul 20, 2015
HopeAtHand:


You are ahead after 1970..how?? Why are you deceiving yourselves..the most damaging lie anyone can tell is the lie told to oneself..do igbos have the most brilliant, the most distinguished, the wealthiest individuals?? be frank about it.

And why are you intent on carrying 5 out of 6 SS states along to your biafra..what makes you think we can get along..what is the relationship btwn us?

HopeAtHand:


You are ahead after 1970..how?? Why are you deceiving yourselves..the most damaging lie anyone can tell is the lie told to oneself..do igbos have the most brilliant, the most distinguished, the wealthiest individuals?? be frank about it.

And why are you intent on carrying 5 out of 6 SS states along to your biafra..what makes you think we can get along..what is the relationship btwn us?

https://www.nairaland.com/237534/look-going-school-nigeria-statistics

https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-attainment

Of course, we are ahead.

The wealthiest individuals in Nigeria are those who have links with the government and have enjoyed govt monopoly policies, eg Dangote, or those that has benefited from ND crude oil wealth, Otedola and Alakija.

They are not innovators, inventors or revolutionaries,that tells you a thing about the entity Nigeria.

On the average, the Igbos are better off than all.

The most brilliant? I don't know, Adichie seem to be the only globally recognized Nigerian intellectual now. Igbo states of Anambra, Abia and Imo have been topping JAMB and WAEC stats. SE states of Imo and Anambra have the highest cut off marks for enrollment into unity schools.

Distinguished? Well Kanu remains the most decorated Nigerian footballer.

Nobody is carrying anybody, we are simply leaving the door open for Eastern non Igbo groups.

Reasons? Shared culture and histories between the Ogoni and the Ndokis, between Ikwerre and Ohaji, between Ogba/ Ndoni and Anioma, between the Annang and Ngwas/ Ikwuano, between the Ndoki/ the Ibibios and Ibani Ijaws, the Aro/ Cross Rivers, the Ikwo/Ezza and the Ekoi, the Afikpo and Northern Cross river groups. It's a chain of interconnectivity and relative peace and understanding built over decades of co existence side by side as neighbors.
Common religion, etc.

We can go at it alone, but we recognize that a heterogeneous nation United by shared goals, history, culture, religion and purpose is strength.

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Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 3:53pm On Jul 20, 2015
HopeAtHand:


What do you consider ideas? Aside throwing insults you havent been contributing anything neaningful..if you are looking for avenues to vent your frustrations it cannot be through me.

Igbos are just one huge source of comedy, a people without a defined direction..always speaking through both sides of your mouth..If you are very comfortable in Nigeria as insinuated, why do you guys want to flee and form biafra.and in fleeing you dnt want to go alone, you are looking for co-travellers..

You people are neither here nor there, just allover the place..i pity you though cos your situation is pitiable.a major tribe relegated by its mate...i'd save a tear or two for Igbos.

Why do we want to leave Nigeria?

Because we are ambitions people that are hardly satisfied by yesterday's successes. Because we know that we shouldn't be competing with Arewa and Odua, they are no competition out all, if after starting afresh in 1970, we are once again ahead of them. We know we can compete with the rest of the civilized world power for power, rather than be wasting time in mudslinging contest in Nigeria.

We know who we are, and we know where we should be without the heavy stone called Nigeria tied to our legs and slowing us down.

Take a look at this: https://www.nairaland.com/2444018/pains-loss-nation-trapped-retrogressive

This is who we are. In Biafra such crude talents will be refined by a central government policy and given wings to soar and take Biafra to enviable heights. We have the human resources to be a first world country.

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Politics / Re: Protest Orchestrated By IPOB(BIAFRANS) by vicenzo(m): 3:13pm On Jul 20, 2015
ibotjaycob:
Please let them go!!!! Leave the houses you built behind, leave your businesses, positions, and if you married from Yoruba or Hausa tribe leave your, partner. Pull your children from schools, undergraduates in different parts of the country except the east will drop out to return to BEEERFRA! The isrealites did it, so can you. When you get back to Biafra, the former Governors and powerful people will offer their money and wealth to build BEERFRA, no more greed, no more favouritism. No more putting your family before anyone. Everyone will be one and the same, no more Kidnapping no more blood money.
Let them Go.

All these was done in 1966. We left Nigerian government, and non Igbo places. It never stopped you lots from fighting against Biafra freedom.

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Politics / Re: CNN Says Nigeria Is A Majority Muslim Country by vicenzo(m): 3:07pm On Jul 20, 2015
Are they wrong? No!

The Arewa-Odua are the Islamic core upon which one Nigeria was built. Of course Nigeria is an Islamic country, how is that even debatable.

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Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 2:59pm On Jul 20, 2015
AshiwajuFoward:
Up until the Mid-West invasion (and subsequent botched invasion of Lagos/SW by the Biafrans), the SW was prettymuch undecided on whom to support or whose side to take. But the invasion/coup made it clear to the Yorubas the sinister intentions of the Biafrans which was manifested in their decision to invade our lands. From thereon we took our destinies in our own hands. Again I repeat, our destinies are not intertwined.

Yorubas couldn't have been neutral when you lots were harbouring Northern soldiers in your region, and the attack to Eastern region were being launched from your region. Yet you refused to chase the Northerners away or allow the Biafrans do that.

Awo even from the link you posted in his dubious way made it clear that he was for one Nigeria, but doesn't support Ojukwu or Gowon. Such was the dubious and treacherous nature of the man, if you were for one Nigeria, then obviously and by default you are enemies of Biafans who were against one Nigeria.

Yes we know your destiny. To be subservient to your Arewa masters, I guess that's the definition of " wisdom" tact in the "suffersticated" lands, it's your albatross to carry, but Ndiigbo must not and cannot partake in it.

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Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 2:46pm On Jul 20, 2015
HopeAtHand:
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You are not mentally stable..when you are, i'd consider having an arguement with you.


Run along. You have run out of ideas.

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Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 2:43pm On Jul 20, 2015
Kagawash07:

Eediot, that fool, Ironsi already destroyed our regionalism before Gowon took power and you are talking of states creation?
Do you eediots even know the meaning of regionalism at all? What a dunce I've been discussing with!
You mean before the state creation, an ondo man doesn't know he's an ondo man or kaduna man doesn't know he's a kaduna man? What a goat!
Inshort, Gowon only created states to undo the evil that fool, Ironsi made but it was too late!
And whether you hit that empty flat head of yours on the wall, it doesn't change the fact that Awolowo's doctor report stated he died of a heart related disease at 78yrs, same age with that fool, Ojukwu who died without archieving anything!

Mpama, Ironsi never dissolved the regions, he merely united the civil service. It was Gowon and Awo greed to partake in the Eastern region oil wealth that drove them into creation of anomalies called states, while totally dis regarding the Wilkins report demand of Eastern minorities. It was the creation of Gowon and Awo dysfunctional states as conduits to siphon Eastern oil wealth that instigated the mad rush by subsequent Odua-Arewa rulers to continue creating more dysfunction non viable states up North, and to sustain such states, the crude wealth of the Eastern minorities were taken from them by a dubious decree that turned their lands into free for all lands.

Your Awo and Gowon greed created states that was the genesis of expensive governance we are having today, they paved way for land use decree that was needed to finance non viable states up North and then as more and more non Viable states were created, more and more of Eastern minorities oil wealth was needed to finance them, so the derivation formula for them kept shrinking and shrinking until it was almost zero.

But guess whose fault it is? Nzeogwu and Ironsi according to SW people. Lol!
Politics / Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 2:30pm On Jul 20, 2015
HopeAtHand:


It is unnecessary to start this argument.a system was in place and Igbos derailed it.read ur history books with a clear open mind.

Let me inform you that i don't care if Igbos get biafra or not..they are not my people and so their wellbeing is not rily my concern..my concern is when Igbos decide to tag Ikwerres along..

FYI, Nigeria offers Igbos alot more compared to what their 5 igbo states + anioma can offer..learn to navigate Nigeria and exploit the system...but if ure planning to leave, prepare to fight again, and yet again, alone.

Lol! And you think Ndiigbo care about your useless Ikwerre? You lots are of no significance to the Igbo nation, you have little or no human resources, no one gives a rat about Ikwerres, infact I don't even know how and why you ended up dragging the Ikwerres into this thread.

For your info, Igbos offer more to Nigeria than Nigeria could ever offer us, we know this, that's why we are eager to dump Nigeria. If it were the other way round, you won't be hearing a drop about Biafra.

Stats show that Ndiigbo had made the most out of Nigeria more than any other Nigerian group including your insignificant Ikwerre lol, despite anti Igbo policies of this union, and it's on that basis that we know for certain that we are better off without Nigeria. Chew on that.


You are a jellyfish. A system was in place, I tried to remove it, you killed me for doing that, and accused me of being greedy, but you ended up using that same system and even adopted more things to make the system more evil.

But in your cholesterol clogged brain cells, it is my fault that you adopted and went on to corrupt the system, I am greedy, but you holy one choose and adopted a supposedly greedy system.

You now see why Nnamdi call the country and it's occupants Zoo and animals? Your reasoning capacity is almost zero.

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