Interesting debate. I think everyone has a point but @Kobojunkie, get rid of the condescending tone in your argument because for someone who is attacking people for their lack of English language skills, your grammar is not so impressive. Cue - "Wasting both our times..."

Okija Priest:

Is that all!!

What about all those Yoruba touts and Ex-NURTW militia that would now be legally allowed to bare arms?! It would be a field day for Agberoism in all the western states..

Checkpoint scenarion in Lagos;

State Police; (in a hoarse voice) ARGH!! Omo!! See moto! Oga ejo park well..

Citizen: Hello

State Police: Kiloshe!! Funmi papers kia kia...

Citizen: What papers

State Police: Argh!! you are 'h'asking me what papers!! Oya bole!! Wa gba station!! You wii spend 5 night for station!! Beni!!


Abeg no o!! We no want!!

No, I am not laughing. I don't see what the big deal is about though. A state police might be ideal to deal with security problems in states. The center is too powerful. There must be a reason why we are practising federalism.

With the way these law makers are going, Basketmouth, A.Y and co will soon begin to lose customers . A road sign to National Assembly should read 'Comedy Central'. Clowns.

LeoMax: My dear, Nigeria is bound by ECOWAS treaty which she is a member state. Stop making statements like that. Without stopping a war in Mali and Guinea Bissau, where do you think those Russian AK47, MPMG, SMG and IEs will end up ?

LeoMax: My dear, Nigeria is bound by ECOWAS treaty which she is a member state. Stop making statements like that. Without stopping a war in Mali and Guinea Bissau, where do you think those Russian AK47, MPMG, SMG and IEs will end up ?

My darling, there is something called opinion. Ever heard of it? Ecowas treaty or not, I do not think we have the capacity to keep interfering with the politics or affairs of other African nations. We need to re-evaluate our foreign policy. Nigerians first before anything else. Playing West African police does very little for millions of Nigerians living in fear of terrorist attacks. The AK47s, MPMGs, SMGs and IEs have somehow managed to find their way past our porous borders even before Guinea Bissau and Mali. Besides, we have sacrificed enough. From Sierra Leone to Zimbabwe, South Africa, Liberia and everywhere on the continent, we have flexed our diplomatic and military muscle. We simply do not have it anymore. Big brother is being beaten senseless in his own home, time to drag his tired bottom back home to fix things. And oh, by the way, I am a patriot.

Nigeria and misplaced priorities. We need to put our house in order first before running around to fix the problems of other countries. We are taking this big brother thing too seriously.

e-mail:
Seun, hope you are not seriously thinking about not publishing her stories any longer? Its seriously no body's business if you feel for her. I kindda enjoyed her stories-as well as lola luv.

If your aim is to promote young talents go for it. If its love for Umari, then I think you should but NL up for sale, lol.

Kobojunkie:

WOW !  WOW!!! rhetorical ? WOW!! 'us' in bid to draw supporters? WOW . . .  .  insults  . . . WOW !!!

I think it is best I take it that there is no answer to the question. NO MORE COMMENT from me!

Sure boo. Bye!

Kobojunkie:

Let me repost oo, so at least we know who is trying to make this more complicated than it really is
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What religion out there respects "the black man"?[/size]

hm . . . if wishes where horses, but they are not. The black man is not even respected in his own home. 

Kobojunkie, like I said, you asked a rhetorical question and went ahead to cement your stand with second comment. I don't believe in meaningless verbal sparring where insults are thrown in to prove intellectual superiority. Oh btw, using "us" in arguments in a bid to draw supporters is rather lame, don't you think?

Kobojunkie:

No did not answer the question, and something tells you know this. So let's not start LYING now.

You gave us some more ramblings which honestly, I cannot even make heads or tails of. I am not asking either of your religious view. Simply asked you which religion out there you pretend then respects the black man.

Who is "us"? Lol. You are not asking either of my religious views? You are not making any sense doll. Excuse me while I go and laugh. Some of you try so hard to sound intelligent.

Kobojunkie:

All this rambling for simple direct questions asked? Again. . .

You asked a question and answered it. I see no reason in engaging you in a senseless verbal merry go round. I stand by my views that religious brainwashing is the root of Africa's problems, so seek someone else to direct your "direct questions" to. 

frosbel:

Do you conspiracy theorists make up things as you go  

Come back to the real world.

Alex Jones has pulled the wool over your eyes , hahaha  

You want the real world? Well buddy, in the real world, people are entitled to their opinions. No one is attacking you for believing in everything the white man says or does. I hold on to the view that Africans have been hoodwinked for too long in the name of religion, whether Christianity or Islam. You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to figure things out. And for your info, no one hates the white man, but not everyone feels inclined to kiss the white man's pale behind. Thank you for letting me vent. 

dasparrow:

Thank you Virgo. I am glad myself and Cap28 are not the only ones on this forum with our thinking caps on.

Thank you my brother. I wish Africans could stop trusting these meddlers so much. All they want is to divide and conquer. Africa is the only continent that refuses to learn from its history and it is appalling.

chima12:

pray that an almajiri doesnt come after you one day,with a plastic plate on his head and a dagger in his hand,you think telling him that israel and america are the cause of nigerias problems will save your life?

Dahhling, what part of my post don't you understand? Calm your sweet self down. Truth is, none of these countries or religions have the interest of the black man at heart. Study history and you will see. It is sad that we have allowed ourselves to be divided by these neo-colonialists and their religions. Boko Haram is a problem that has gone beyond the power hungry politicians (who btw should be exposed by your president) that created them and me thinks we should be on guard against all forms of interference whether by Al-Qaeda, Mossad or CIA. No one really likes the black man. So breathe easy and look at the facts before you.  

Kobojunkie:

What religion out there respects "the black man"?

hm . . . if wishes where horses, but they are not. The black man is not even respected in his own home.  

It beats me how blacks can't see beyond their noses that Jews/Arabs/Europeans see them as nothing more than "hewers of water" and "fetchers of wood". They just bank on the black man's highly superstitious nature to keep him down under. What exactly should be exciting about Israel/Saudi or America sending you aid or taking sides with you in a situation they may likely have a hand in?

Read someone's post where it was stated that Abraham was Muslim before God called him.   Really?  . Peeps calm down and turn your books straight up. Stop reading history upside down. And as for nations in the West and M. E meddling in Africa's affairs, there can't be anything good coming from either Jews, Arabs or Europeans. Starting from Judiasm to Christianity to Islam, none of those religions respect the black man. I can't help suspecting these "outside forces". I wish we had leaders with functioning brains. From pastors, to imams to politicians, Nigerians has been cursed with very bad leadership. It is clear that "humble Joe" might have thrown in the towel and is patiently waiting for 2015. The ordinary citizens of Nigeria had better take their own destinies into their hands because once the vultures swoop,

Martian:

Be careful, their god has been telling them to blow stuff up lately in Abuja.  We don't want to lose one of the few black women who are not drunk of the religious juice to allah's foot soldiers.

Thanks for the heads up sweetie! I better leave these religious people to battle it out among themselves. Bye folks!

babakb:

The QUR'AN is the only Book that gives the true account of messengers and prophets of ALLAH, Every other book has been distorted centuries before now but the QUR'AN has remain unchanged and so it shall remain until judgment day, IBRAHIM (AS) was neither a jew nor christian but a muslim who received revelations from ALLAH and championed the cause of fighting false worship and promoted TAUHEED, worshiping ALLAH the most high without associating partners unto him.

Sure, sure. Anything that rocks your boat sweetheart. All you religious folks just take it easy sha! And oh, by the way, Abraham was neither, Muslim, Christian or Jew. Opening other books apart from "holy books" will broaden your minds and help you be tolerant of each other. Religions have existed before Judaism, Christianity or Islam, and all make the same claim to be the only way to the one true G-d. You guys can shout from now till kingdom come about your religions being the best, it doesn't change the fact that all religions came to being by man's search for the meaning of life and is largely influenced by the lifestyles, belief systems and cultural practices of the societies they originated from. But then again, whatever rocks your boat. Just so long as it does not encroach on my space, we are good!

Martian:

I just thought he was a religious nut, now it's clear his name should be "House Nigger". 

Massa is always right! Massa says Jesus is God! Massa loves me even though I'm nothing but chattel and he did beat me in front of my children this morning! I'm a cursed descendant of Ham so I deserve to be massa's slave.
Praise Jesus.

He needs to move to Israel and become some random Jew's property.

Thank you o, @Martian. Seriously! I don't get some Africans at all. A house Nigger indeed! Imagine calling your own race "heathens"!

frosbel:

^^

Taking advantage is a trait of fallen or should I use the word depraved human nature. On a small scale or large scale, it is the norm rather than the exception.

Slave trade was on a large scale.

But let's make a distinction between Arab slave trade and European Slave trade. The Arab slave trade was the most brutal with 80% of slaves dying before destination. Mostly men in this case. Arab men wanted WOMEN and this was historically a s.exual slave trade.

On the contrary, Mrs I too know , The European slave trade was economic and only a small percentage of slaves died en route to the Americas.

While both cases were immoral , we have to understand that this trade opened the doors to Africa , and missionaries in their droves started arriving for the sole purpose of evangelizing the heathen . Let us not include the Catholics here, that is a story for another day.

Another main difference is that most slaves in Europe eventually , after bitter struggles, integrated into their respective societies. This is not true in the case of Arab slave trade where in Sudan, Pakistan and countless Islamic countries, slave trade is still the in thing , again primarily involving young girls.

Can I humbly advice that you revise a few articles with summaries on these matters, then we can continue to argue further.

It pains me to see my beloved people jumping around the Internet and looking for anything and everything, not validated,  to post on this forum.

Thank YOU.

Bolded 1- As the Arabs did and still do, so the Europeans did and still do!

Bolded 2 -  What? Darling, allow me to inform you that during the Trans-Atlantic slave trade, a good number of slaves were thrown overboard slave ships, killed during mutinies, violated, died willfully, et all, before reaching their destination. SMH

Bolded 3 - Well, you self hating black man, "Missionaries" paved way for colonialism that divided Africans. As for your use of the word "heathen", shame on you! And why not include Catholics? Didn't Catholic Missionaries educate African "heathens?"

Bolded 4 - Yeah, like the tea party continually asks America's first ever black president to prove that he is not some Kenyan born Niqqa. Like Rodney King's brutal beating, and the castration of innocent black men that were castrated by envious less endowed white men because some sexually frustrated stick thin white woman could not get hold of his dark meat. Some integration!

Bolded 5 - Chile please.


      While Willy Lynch might want to kiss you for your dumb portrayal of the black race in general, Me, I want to slap the blood out of your mouth. You are narrow minded, assuming, and shamelessly ignorant. And oh, ,trust me, there are those who have read more than you ever could without necessarily submitting to unvalidated articles on the internet.

frosbel:

Mrs I too know, are you aware that slave trade was a common practice pre-colonial times in Africa  ?

The Arabs and Europeans simply tapped into this great commodity of human resource and used it for their own ends.

Obviously with the full connivance of your so called chiefs, obas , ezes and whatevers !!!!

Also in those days for the records , children were sacrificed , women circumcised, twins killed etc etc. Is this African tradition to be proud of.

Thank GOD we were delivered by the MISSIONARIES from our stone age life style.

Mr. Ignoramus, in your pea sized brain, the "MISSIONARIES" by taking advantage of our "stone age" lifestyle can be absolved of the atrocities they committed especially when they brought religions of "peace" and "mercy?" WHAT A TOOL AND A TYPICAL HYBRID!

Jayjey:

na only God know who dey serve am, i just know that be it Judaism, christianity, Muslim e.t.c will all have chances of making heaven, so stop that crap about whether a muslim or christian will not make heaven the decision is ours, if you are evil then you are hell bound if you are not, you will make heaven. Pray for His grace because a lot of you castigating and condemning may not make heaven. just answer the question is Abraham a jew or arab and let God decide who is pure and not pure.

Give me a break sweetheart. You are asking Naira land religious fanatics to be more broad minded in a religious discussion, and in a very contentious issue. Indeed!

I have seen a lot of drivel on Naira land and my conclusion is, what a man accepts to be true, no force of reason can prevail against. I blame all the propaganda that adherents of most religions engage in for this confusion. Black men open your damn eyes, , eish!

And for the record my Persian friend will slap any tool who will ever refer to him as Arab. The Persians (Iran) have never and will never be Arabs. Before Islam, the people were Zoroastrians, and have their own identity. If Abraham was from that area, he was neither Jew nor Arab.

I have come across a book that even suggests that Abraham's worship of G-d was influenced by Egypt's religious practices, (he was supposedly a regular visitor there after all). Anyway, that is not my business. My business is to live and let live. As long as your way of life does not impede on my well being and happiness, all is well.