Hassan9786:
I can't login to my yahoo mail, I dunno what is wrong with it. So, sorry I can't view your pm. Post your bb pin or whatsapp no, I'll add

You can post yours and I'll contact you, I'll be expecting it.

PAGAN 9JA:


I think you watch too many horror movies. have you seen satan use blood to bath?

Isnt it you christians who say, "I COVER MYSELF IN THE BLOOD OF JESUS"!

dont you use blood to bath then?

Ive clearly said that Im not interetested in convincing someone who behaves irresponsibly.

Nowehere did I mention African. If you are born into a tribe, it is your due to follow the customs , religion ,etc., of your ethnic group, as was handed down to your people by the Gods.

It doesnt take a 5-yr old to know that the owrld didnt start from a Hen. Those are metaphorical and mean something else. We Pagans do not take our stories literally at face-value, like you xtians are made to do.

Like the world was created in 6-days, the SUn revolves around the Earth, etc.

All these middle-eastern prophets who think they alone hold the key to God, have been deceiving people for ages. Their ultimate aim was to glorify their names and impose thier beliefs and cultures on other peaceful people and spread discord, hatred and evil.


In Paganism, ETHNICITY IS ASSCOIATED WITH RELIGION.

Paganism is the ulitimate combination of the material world with the spiritual realm.


YOUR PEOPLE ARE THE ONE WHO ENFORCED YOUR RELIGIONS ON OUR ANCESTORS! THEREFORE IT IS MY BIRTHRIGHT TO TAKE REVENGE ON WHAT DAMAGE YOU HAVE DONE ON US AND THIS WORLD.

Now you see? How you feel when someone else tries to impose their beliefs on you?!

YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW.



You are clearly confused and deluded like all Yoruba abrahmists. First decide on who you want to wroship. Allah or jesus?

YOu are just a troublemaker who has been so brainwashed that you want to do anything to try and destroy Ifa Orisha Religion and the beliefs of the Yoruba Nation.

Therefore you are ready to side with both islam and christianity against your own Tribal Religion.

people like you should be kicked out of Yoruba. You are the cause of Yoruba backwardness.


Go sleep. confused fellow.

You don't need to rain invectives and insult to get your point straight, concerning the blood of Jesus, the blood is Jesus own blood shed for my purification. Let me ask you, was satan covered in his own blood or in the blood of other people used as sacrifice? We all know what you guys call 'etutu', may God help us, for me, I see know difference between God and Allah, God is one, Allah means one. Christians and muslims are brothers and sisters. Though they may not agree in some things, but they are children of the same parent. God is marvellous. "Do you not know? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the creator of the ends of the earth. He will not grow tired or weary, and his understanding no one can fathom. (Isaiah 40:28 NIV). Peace be upon you.

mko abiola: If dem no come consullt. Ifa,hw do u want d congregation to blv dier false prophecy.
My late grandfather once told me a smilar story lik ds.

Well, I can't vouch for anyone, ara la mo a o monu, we don't know what's in other peoples mind but ours. Certainly, not all of them consult Ifa, God knows his and Ifa also knows his.

That emperor constatine converted the pagan Romans to christians means he edited the bible? Satan is really cunning, he has his ways of creating doubt in people, when the owner of the farm is asleep, the enemy goes therein and spread weed. Let's stop going round the circle. Though, Constantine handled and make some revolutions that is not right which is carried on as christianity "tradition" which has no basis from the scripture, though he did them in good faith but not with the right motive. That is what actually makes the scriptures profound, anything outside the scripture is counterfeit has upheld by immediate theologians, now not what any man say, nor how it has always been practised but what the BIBLE says. Thanks

PAGAN 9JA:



And you where present there yes? You were the Chief guest at the dinner table and you saw these "wiitness" yes?

Do you know the New testament is all forged and edited by the Pagan Emperor Constantine?

Moses was the first liar.

from him descends a race of liars.


Stop all this sentimental trash. get to the point.

History, achaelogist has proven the bible to be true, in fact, the questiion we should be asking is that, what makes this book so different from every other books in the world? It is never obsolete, still valid, practical, working in our lives, empower us, equip us to face satan, so, the spirit testify with our spirit that we are the children of God, by the same spirit we cry ,Abba, father. It will take only a person with a spirit led life nutured purely by the word, taken fresh and not diluted to understand all these :-)

The bible is written by witness, those who actually walk, talk and dine with Jesus. For some part, the histories are recorded as they happened, revelations of things yet to come are recorded, the first five books(pentateuch) were written by Moses(Musa), who else would have written that part better. That is why the word is powerful, it is fact, corroborated by the Holy Spirit. In the beginning was the Word. It is sharper than two edged sword, piercing and diving the innermost part of the soul, the word is a lamp to my feet, when I walk by it, I will not strike my leg against a stone.

PAGAN 9JA:


wow what a lame reason!

seriously?!

You are refusing the religion of your forefathers and all the knowledge it comes with just because you don't like to bow your head?!

Bowing your head is a sign of humility and respect.

Do you seriously think a SPiritual Force/ GOd wrote "a book"?!


Is God an author?

stop being bound in chains by what these foreign man-written books have to say.

I can't believe the extent you fellows go to delay your faith.


I MEAN, SERIOUSLY?!!

this is the demonstration of one of the ideology I talked about, may God open your eyes of understanding.

PAGAN 9JA:


jesus the jewish traitor.

May God forgive you, you are given love, you responded with hate and hatred. He comes to his own yet they know him not, neither do they acknowledge him. May God forgive you and open your eyes of understanding, grace is still available for you sha, you better embrace it before the mercy of the Father wax cold. May God forgive you.

I'm sorry for the above repetition, it's an error.

PAGAN 9JA:



I'm not here to convince anyone who behaves irresponsibly. Please refrain from insulting the Gods, if you don't expect insults in your turn.

there is no such thing as satan in Yoruba religion. Pure evil and Pure Good cannot exist. There must be balance.

Ajayi Crowther was the one responsible for demonizing the God Esu as satan in his translation, in order to spread christianity.

In truth there is no Yoruba word for satan because the Yoruba ancestors didnt believe satan exists, neithr do Yoruba Pagans believe in satan today.

So, this is now a valid reason for me to worship satan, the satan they describe as "olomi nle feje we", satan that uses blood to bath, you also said that you aren't trying to convince anybody, what is then your purpose of typing all these? Well, there are two ideology which I'll like to call to question here. (1)Several times, you've made mention of people not accepting "their faith", I guess you mean since they are born african, they must serve the gods, I also think you believe the world started from Ife, you believe a hen spread land all over the earth, well, Jesus been born a Jew does not mean he is for the Jews alone, salvation first for the Jews then for the gentiles, it is the will of God to work it that way, even the islam has its tracings to the jews(Abraham, Ibrahim) the father of faith, the father of multitudes. We are to preach the gospel in judea, samaria and to the ENDS of the earth. Don't try to associate ethinicity with religion. You've got no right to enforce your believe on people all because some people in the past from their earthly lineage has followed that line of believe, everyone has got his/her own choice to make.
(2) You are tagging some religion as "foreign", sorry O, bi ipinle ba baje, ki li olododo le se? When the foundation is destroyed, what shall the righteous do? The almighty God (Allah) is not limited to some specific number of people, it is for all and for all. Jesus came to die for ALL so that ALL can be saved, but it is known that not all will be saved. I'll advice you nairalanders, it is your CHOICE to make, follow your convictions, make your research, and hold unto what you know that will save you at the day of judgment.

For those who haven't got the money to pay, I say, God will make way for you in Jesus name, heaven shall open because of you, jinx will be broken at your time, history will be made. At your own specific time, you'll here the voice that says: See! I am doing a new thing, I'm opening up rivers through the desert, I'll make your dark tunnel to be illuminated with light. Hope in God.

PAGAN 9JA:



Esu is not satan you dumba$$.

pls be responsible, how can u then convince me after the insult. Well, exercise appropriate etiquette in laying down your viewpoint. So, what is the Yoruba translation of satan?

PAGAN 9JA:


lol man worshipper.

pls, who is the presumed "man" that you are referring to?

smithjanetstore: na true jare padi mi but if you swear with bible or quran na sara nothing go do you

Well, I think you just air that out of the pain and disappointment from most of our leaders, don't forget that God is not hungry for attention compared to satan, God is patient, forgiving and loving yet he disciplines, don't think anyone that makes a vow and do breaks it will go scot free. The time for God's reckoning will come, consider what is said here if you care to know at Matthew 5:33-37.

macof: yes Abraham was a pagan all his life
And We all know paganism deals with idols

Abraham wasn't a pagan, his Dad(Terah) was a pagan, Can you tell why God told him to leave his father's house.

OlamiB: I cnt stp wondering why the two main concentration of old testament are now converted majorly to muslims, does that mean islamic God is higher than Christian God? Egyptian and Isrealite are nw mostly muslims, so why do we Africans still carry it for head when 'his people' isrealites have denied the fact that jesus is their savior and he deserves their worship? I cnt serve Ifa either way

Well, you are very free to find the truth, do your research. When you get the truth, the truth will set u free.

Aladinn:


Bro, history exposes everything, most especially the vanities of the jihadists and the crusaders as it concerns their quest over Jerusalem. Its all politics and economic, and never religious.

God has promised us a NEW Jerusalem, where no one will say I am sick, ill, old, hungry. No death. There will be PEACE!

ifeness:

You do not know about your tradition yet you know so much about a foreign religion so much. How can you progress when you feel this inferior?

You all love to shout TRADITION, TRADITION and TRADITION, God help you, well, satan goes tro and fro seeking whom to devour, he's competing with God, the Bible gives a very clear understanding of how things began, satan came down to earth with his dark angels(demons) when he was defeated, he succeeded in pushing us against our CREATOR (so we die), God has a special love for us 'cos we are just like his prototype in form(this is to satan shame). A blood must be shed for the remission of sin, a pure, sinless, spotless lamb. Because, without the sheding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sin, even the traditionalist know that, in old times, blood of rams are shed(this is just temporary, it only demonstrates the next order of thing which is yet to come). JESUS CHRIST came to die once and for all, he arose from the dead to show how we'll also arise someday leaving the devil defeated, since then, SALVATION is now refined. The devil never rest and he'll never rest, but Christ has prayed for us before his departure, his Holy Spirit will lead us, comfort us and guide us through the way. Remember, so far as satan can tempt Jesus, no one is exempted, do not be wise in your own eyes, remember the downfall of Solomon, lean on the Holy Spirit, and guard your heart for it is the wellspring of life. In fact, not to forget, Jesus even told me to love my enemies. Ah! What greater love do we even need from God. Things will begin to turn around, you'll feel inner peace, you won't be concerned any more about any pastor or imam that is falling away, but you'll know that at the end, it comes down to YOU and God. And for the traditionalist in the house, God loves you, Jesus love you, I love you. LET US ALL STAND UP TO STOP SATAN AND HIS WORKING DEMONS ON THE TRACK!

Aladinn:

Your comment reek of ignorance while trying effortlessly to laden it with thoughtfulness. Is God almighty a localized entity? Does he belong to the xtians alone? That the traditional african belief system bowed to the christian and Islamic belief was not because of a "wondrous working God" as you want us to believe. The two most widespread religion had the monopoly of guns, cannons, swords, sabers ans daggers. Ask yourself, why is judaism( the parent religion to both christianity and islam) not as widespread as the other two. Is the christian God now powerful than the judaic God? Muslims conquered Jerusalem from Christians and ruled for over 700years. Are we going to assume that the muslim God is more powerful than the christian God? The foreign religions were able to gloat over their concept of a religious beliefs which the african belief systems ( defeated militarily) have to accept. Its all about the interplay between the pysche of the victor and the vanquished. Please, do tell me one new thing foreign religion changed in the youruba belief system? Fornication was frown at, same as stealing, killing and any other social vice. Taking foreign religion as the only TRUE source is a defeated pysche at work. All man to his choice. No grudges.

is it not this same traditional religion that appease and worship satan (esu)?

shine-eye:
I consider this ifa priest to be a very sincere ignorant man. Christianity is not a foreign religion in the same context as knowledge of scientific facts is not foreign to any people. Abraham was a devoted idol worshiper as were his forefathers and indeed the whole of ancient humanity. Through many indisputable proofs, God Almighty has revealed HE is not in league with the gods of our forefathers neither is HE tolerant of giving His Glory to any of them. Our early association with these gods, revealed to be devils rebellious and oppossed to GOD, was founded on our helplessness then. These gods are without doubt of some means yet with the agenda to perpetually enslave and without any means of bringing man to the glory GOD designed. The days of ignorance have passed away. The truth is a reality available to all and not foreign to any people on earth. Those who choose to wallow in the old order have no excuse. Yet a little while, and all about the old must become extinct according to the determined counsel of GOD.

You are very correct, on point!

Wadlove: Sojourn through Mawuko
[dedicate d to the FSP n pre
degree students]...... ............... ..............
We walked like primitive beings,
just like its halloween, on hallowed
grounds of success we trek, in
matchbox houses we dwell. All for
an eigth month sojourn, we
gnashed our teeths in anger while
hungry for the ivory tower, water
supply went haywire and electricity
turned leper, lecturers growl like
towncriers, to be freshers and
sophomores we dream, exams
came barking like rabid dogs,
results dashed the hopes of many
like its dooms day. The struggle
continued, for its a long walk to
Alabata, sixteen bridges before
Colmas,3 hurdles to Colnas and
Coleng, from Mawuko with tears,
from Inhurd with love!!!

All is well that ends well, it is well even in the well, Joseph is a biblical example, all is well.