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Politics / Re: If It Is Not A Quarantine, Why Must The Army Administer Vaccines? by Vivere: 9:28pm On Oct 12, 2017
Kazim88:

Not accused. Army have been caught red handed commiting worst crime..

Buhari recently Threaten a re run of Nigeria Civil War... he even reminded Nigerians That 2 million died, mostly children due to blockade by the same Buhari and Co.

Go goggle Asaba massacre...

Nigeria Army have never apologize or admitted that it's officers commited any crime... even in the face of strong evidence

They was a recent alert to the International community by Human Rights watch that base on Buhari body language and coments they strongly suspect him of planning a genocide against the Igbos.

https://www.ripplesnigeria.com/monitor-buharis-govt-widespread-genocide-igbos-huriwa-begs-intl-community/amp/

Stop digressing. The Army never vaccinated any children in the South East. So stuff your propaganda where the sun doesn't shine.
Politics / Re: Nigerian Army Stops Medical Outreach In Anambra - Saharareporters by Vivere: 9:16pm On Oct 12, 2017
onavae:
I am a proud father. When I take my son to the hospital for any treatment, I always confirm the prescription and find out what each one is for. When am not sure, I talk to friends and family who are doctors or nurses to confirm before allowing him to be given anything. I will never allow even a trained medical doctor administer any drug let alone an unknown vaccine to my son without mine or my wife's permission. I pay over 200k for his school fees in port Harcourt. If this happens, I will shut down that school with law suits for letting anyone touch my child after paying so much.
I have no connection with igbos, I am from Edo state. But I can as a parent myself understand the apprehension of the igbos in this situation.
The army messed things up. A medical outreach should be like BP checks, eye checks, etc. Kids should be accompanied by their parents. You don't go to schools and force vaccines on kids without their parents knowledge, not done anywhere in the world. Chikenan

Oga, you did not read responses from all sides to this story. The Army never went to the school to vaccinate any child. That was propaganda from the airwaves of Radio Biafra. The Army had conducted medical outreaches in different states on adults and not children, without any controversy. So why are you still believing the propaganda??!
Politics / Re: Olayinka Omigbodun, Victor Banjo’s Daughter: Ojukwu Betrayed My Dad, Killed Him by Vivere: 9:11pm On Oct 12, 2017
WetinConsignMe:

Which part did not make sense to u, mumu?
The headline that said:
"Why Awo did not make West to Secede, as he promised" ?

Name calling is not going to help your case. T9ksy and logica have done a great job of refuting your allegations. Now go and play with your toys in the backyard.

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Politics / Re: Olayinka Omigbodun, Victor Banjo’s Daughter: Ojukwu Betrayed My Dad, Killed Him by Vivere: 9:08pm On Oct 12, 2017
WetinConsignMe:


Mumu, papers do not release people from jail. Papers can be manufactured anytime. Whoever has physical custody of a person is the only person that can release him from jail physically. There is no argument as to who had physical custody of Awo.
Close your eyes and.visualise: Gowon, two days after his still-evolving partially successful coup, comming to the East where he had no power or say whatsoever to physically release Awo, whom nobody could even go to see without Ojukwu's permission.

See how stupid u look?

Stop these fake stories. Awolowo was released from prison on the 3rd of August 1966, five good days after the coup of July 29th . And it was done by Gowon. Google is your friend.

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Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 8:54pm On Oct 12, 2017
MyNewJackeT:

so why were they accused of the monkey pox if they were not giving injections.

you look like the kind of man that a stranger will just take the child's blood in the name of blood test and you won't do anything about it because you think it's a normal thing.
I look like what? You are obviously accusing me of something you must have done in the past. Tell us how often you collect children's blood in the name of a blood test as a stranger, and how frequently you have done it.

You should go and ask those who made the accusation of monkey pox why they did so. Then come back and share your findings with us.
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 8:50pm On Oct 12, 2017
HITTED:

They didn't just go there to sensitize them. They went with their vaccines to inject them without the consent of their parents.

Mind what you support, please.
Nobody saw the vaccines yet, they are peddling rumours and you are believing it. None of the children were vaccinated and no parent has come out in the print media or on TV, to say his kids were vaccinated without his knowledge or permission, except your online friend whose claims cannot be corroborated or verified. The Army has even come out to say that they never vaccinated anybody. Yet you are still believing all the fake stories being peddled around. You are smarter than this, honestly.
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 8:28pm On Oct 12, 2017
HITTED:

LOL! And why should I believe your colleagues that I don't know? Talk about "faceless".

I have not asked you to believe them. If you recall you asked me why the person you quoted could not be believed, since he was on ground in the East and we were not. I cited my friends and colleagues, to let you know that I have alternative sources of information, so there is no reason for me to believe your faceless online friend.
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 8:22pm On Oct 12, 2017
onavae:
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They went to schools. Parents don't follow their kids to school
I don't get the insults.

There are no insults. If you recall you were the first person to accuse me of supporting the Army to perpetrate evil against little children. That is the greatest insult in the universe.

And by going to schools, has it occurred to you that they wanted to use the school premises for an outreach because most times such schools have large spaces?
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 8:19pm On Oct 12, 2017
HITTED:

How about believing him, taking him at his words? Neither of us lives in the east so what sense does it make doubting reports of someone who lives there?

I have friends, and colleagues who live in the East. Not one of them has said that his child was immunised. So who do we believe? A faceless person on social media or close friends and colleagues who actually live in the East? They have all heard the rumours, too.
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 8:06pm On Oct 12, 2017
MyNewJackeT:


vivere I asked you a question, Did they give injections in Ebonyi yes or no.

Go and read this report.

In a statement, entitled Exercise Egwu Eke 11: Free Medical Outreach Not Harmful to Anyone’ and signed by Col Sagir Musa, Deputy Director, Army Public Relations, the Army said:

“The attention of the 82 Division Nigerian Army (NA), has been drawn to a silly and mischievous publication now trending on the social media alleging that the ongoing free medical services giving to some communities in the South Eastern Region of Nigeria is with a sinister motive of depopulating the region through the so called “monkey pox vaccination” purportedly being conducted by the NA in the region."

“The Division wishes to make it clear that the free medical outreach is not a vaccine intended to infect monkey pox or any major contemporary or emerging diseases in Nigeria to the people of South East or any part of the country."

“The exercise is part of the corporate social responsibility initiatives imbued in to the overall Exercise Egwu Eke 11 package, to the people of the South Eastern Region which is the Area of Responsibility of the 82 Division NA and is also the theatre of the Exercise.”

The statement continued: “Instructively, the free medical services in the region started on the 18th of September, 2017 in Nkwaagu community of Abakaliki Local Government Area (LGA) of Ebonyi State.

At the event, the Deputy Governor of Ebonyi State, the Chairman of the LGA and some traditional rulers of the benefiting community were there at the flag off of the exercise by the Chief of Army Staff Lieutenant General TY Buratai. “Other areas where the programme was conducted were Ovim in Isukwato LGA of Abia State, Mbaise in Imo State, ORJI River in Enugu and now Ozubulu in Anambra State."

“In all the mentioned areas, there has not been any recorded incident or complain of any kind arising from the noble humanitarian gesture of the NA. “Hence, the wicked, ill-motivated rumour/ lie is the handiwork of unpatriotic elements who can go to any length to discredit the noble services of the NA in the region, which at the moment they will not succeed.

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/10/commotion-s-east-vaccine/
Politics / Re: If It Is Not A Quarantine, Why Must The Army Administer Vaccines? by Vivere: 8:00pm On Oct 12, 2017
Kazim88:

Get my point.

Nigeria Army sent by buhari have been caught on camera doing more heinous crime..

Same Army have been exposed by Amnesty International with video evidence of worst crime.

More shocking and terifying is some people in this forum celebrating and rejoicing those act..

Some have even criticize Amnesty international for exposing the Army and the government atrocity.

So using biological weapon against school children is even a childs play to what the Buhari/Army have done in the past in Southeast and to Shia Muslim up north.

So because the Army has been accused of all sorts of things, you believe they would deliberately harm little children even though there is absolutely no evidence that they did so.
Politics / Re: Olayinka Omigbodun, Victor Banjo’s Daughter: Ojukwu Betrayed My Dad, Killed Him by Vivere: 7:54pm On Oct 12, 2017
WetinConsignMe:

People in the know started the following statement with "why" not me. The unwritten completion.of the statement is:
"Why Awo did not make West to Secede, as he promised"

Use your head, mumu, everything is not literal.

Why Awo did not make West to Secede
VANGUARD
26 SEP 2017
By Eric Teniola
You have not made any sense.
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 7:45pm On Oct 12, 2017
HITTED:

See questions o! grin cheesy

Oga, I've shown you the post. The guy claims he's Igbo and lives in Anambra and his kids took the injection. We doubted him, of course, but he held on to it. Who am I to argue with "an Igbo man" who lives Anambra when I myself am not even in Nigeria? cheesy
If you had no proof to support what he said, then you should not have made reference to his story to buttress your own remarks.
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 7:39pm On Oct 12, 2017
HITTED:

Why are you asking me?

Ask the man who was arguing for the military and against us. Follow that post and see how the argument started.
Why didn't you ask him to substantiate his claims before you swallowed it hook, line and sinker?
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 7:34pm On Oct 12, 2017
HITTED:

How are you sure the person you quoted was telling the truth? Where exactly did this vaccination take place? Name of the school and date it took place? Folykaze come and see more propaganda in action!!
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 7:31pm On Oct 12, 2017
onavae:

You obviously don't have children do you? It doesn't matter if it was vaccines or not. You don't treat kids without their parents knowledge. I have a son that is allergic to Vitamin B complex. Give him this very popular drug and you have killed him. I too was allergic to it as a kid as was my younger brother up till now. How would the soldiers know this? Everyone takes this drug during malaria treatment, etc. The parents must accompany the kids for any medical outreach.
Anyway I don't expect you to understand, you have no idea what it's like to have or care for kids.
Are you OK?? Where was it written that the Army treated or vaccinated kids, without their parent's consent? Which parent has come out so far to say that his children were vaccinated without his knowledge?? Tell us, pls.

The Army itself has come out to deny this over and over again, but because you are so determined to believe the worst kind of propaganda and lies being peddled around, you are ready to accuse others of the worst kind of things.

If you are ever able to get your head out of the prejudiced net it's in, then please go and check if any child was vaccinated without his parent's consent or knowledge. I work with kids and would NEVER agree with anything that would jeopardize their health.

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Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 7:18pm On Oct 12, 2017
HITTED:

Yes, they did. I read someone say about 300 kids were already immunized before the pandemonium. They walked into different schools at the same time and ordered the kids to queue up for the vaccination.

Provide the link and source, so we can determine if your story is true! None of the parents have come out to say their kids were immunised without their own consent.
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 7:13pm On Oct 12, 2017
giftq:

Be truthful for once and stop being an afonja sycophant. grin grin
Be truthful for once and stop being an IPOB deceiver.
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 7:11pm On Oct 12, 2017
giftq:

Everlasting Igbo phobia from your end
That is another of the propaganda you like reciting, isn't it? Anyone who doesn't agree with your lies is accused of having Igbophobia. How shameful of you!
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 7:07pm On Oct 12, 2017
giftq:

The children did well by running away from demons posing as military men and women.
More propaganda and lies from your end
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 7:06pm On Oct 12, 2017
DrGoodman:

The children saw the army uniform and recognised the level of evil around them so they ran away before the evil can get their syringe.

Propaganda and lies are your stock in trade.
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 7:06pm On Oct 12, 2017
giftq:

1. The zoogerian army has no business giving vaccinations.
2. The zoogerian army did not seek parental consent.
3. The zoogerian army is thus highly suspect and must be avoided by all and sundry.
The Army did not give any vaccinations to anybody or any children. Stop your persistent lies!
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 7:03pm On Oct 12, 2017
giftq:

When children are running away from boko-haramite army officers, who cares to count?

The kids did well to run from satans in military uniform
Answer the question. How many children said they were vaccinated? How many parents said their children were vaccinated without their own consent? On another thread, Folykaze had challenged your untrue statements and you are still here telling the same lies.
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 6:59pm On Oct 12, 2017
giftq:

Children ran away in panic from the zoogerian army.
What more evidence do you need.

Those soldiers are evil genocidal maniacs that are up to no good.
You have just confirmed what a deceitful person you are. How many children said they were vaccinated??
Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 6:56pm On Oct 12, 2017
giftq:

The nigerian army is full of fraudsters, boko-haramites and scammers.
No right-thinking parent will entrust his/her child to the nigerian army.
Answer the question please and stop beating around the bush.

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Politics / Re: It’s Child Abuse To Vaccinate A Child Without Parental Consent. UK Doctor by Vivere: 6:52pm On Oct 12, 2017
giftq:
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vivere
oladeebo
You obviously do NOT understand English language. Did the Army immunise any of the children or did any parent complain that his children were immunised without his consent?? Simple Yes or No would do.
Politics / Re: Olayinka Omigbodun, Victor Banjo’s Daughter: Ojukwu Betrayed My Dad, Killed Him by Vivere: 6:49pm On Oct 12, 2017
WetinConsignMe:

My friend everybody understood it to mean just that -"if Biafra secedes, so will the South West" . Everybody except your mumu self after the fact.
The statement definitely does not mean "If Biafra secedes I will join Gowon administration and fight them"
Ojukwu and peoople in the East were encouraged to secede.
Notice the writer was trying to explain why Awo broke his promise not if he made a promise

Stop reciting this propaganda for goodness sake. It is making you look ridiculous by the second. The same Aluko also quoted Awo as saying that Ojukwu shouldn't secede, not so? And was Ojukwu's secession completed?? No!

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Politics / Re: Femi Falana Reacts To Baru's Defense With Three Legal Arguments by Vivere: 6:43pm On Oct 12, 2017
EruditorII:
I have read it over and over again. Nothing was said.

So Osinbajo approved an NNPC contract unilaterally? Who gave him powers to? At what point did he get it to approve of it without the consent of the FEC? If the FEC were involved who presented the memo to them?

The same Osinbajo that sent Baru to get input from Kachikwu approved a contract without same Kachikwu's input?

I thought NNPC claimed President Buhari in his capacity as Petroleum Minister approved the contracts? Now it is Osinbajo in his capacity as acting president? Does acting president equate being Petroleum Minister?

This is preposterous. Please don't say this thing to any lawyer worth his onions you'd be shredded. PMBs govt stands to lose credibility for this so the VP has been offered as the fall guy. Due process was clearly breached and with each flimsy rejoinder the evidence becomes even more glaring.

Why is everyone silent on the appointments? Have you noticed the rhetoric that the NTB approves contracts is fizzling? Because it has been exposed to be another lie. The NTB does not approve contracts.

Have you noticed that each approved contract should have a seal by a member of the NNPC board as approved by the chairman of that board? So who is the chairman of that board and who did he approve to provide the seal on the contracts?

How is it possible that the NNPC board that is mandated to supervise ALL the activities of the NNPC (which includes the NTB) will somehow have no say in the contracts that are to be executed by the same NTB?

Okay just what if by an impossible happenstance Baru was right all along. What would be his reason for still bypassing Kachikwu? If he was being fair-minded and open - why dodge Kachikwu and hide behind the NTB?

NNPCs response that Kachikwu nominated so and so or that he acted without a board is redundant hogwash because I already told you on that other thread that he was Minister and GMD (as there was no board in place) so he simply had to get approval from the president himself. But now that Baru has a Board in place that oversees his office why sideline that board?

I have not received one credible answer from any of his sympathizers and it is really disheartening because I believed in this govt from the jump.

You are going round in circles. Osinbajo was acting President, or have you forgotten? He had powers to approve or deny contracts. And the input Baru was asked to get from Kachikwu concerned NNPC personnel changes, and not contracts. Osinbajo has NOT said he approved those contracts without seeing Kachikwu's input, has he? Also, the NNPC act made it possible for GMD NNPC to get approvals from either FEC or the Petroleum Minister or the President. The phrase Minister of State was never mentioned in the NNPC Act. This has been stated over and over.

Kachikwu that initially said he was sidelined with regards to contracts, has not come out openly to say that he didn't nominate 9 firms for crude oil contracts, after NNPC made its 2nd statement. That is why I keep telling you to go back and read everything again. With an open mind, if possible. Kachikwu has handled this whole thing badly, and it could backfire on him, if care is not taken.
Politics / Re: Army Vaccination In South East: Medical Perspective And Ethics by Vivere: 4:57pm On Oct 12, 2017
giftq:

You are yet to produce ONE lie that I told on Nairaland
Don't worry I will do so soon, definitely. I hope you would be able to survive the shame when you are exposed.
Politics / Re: Army Vaccination In South East: Medical Perspective And Ethics by Vivere: 4:53pm On Oct 12, 2017
giftq:

Omenka and Vivere are the same: they seek any reason to support Igbo-phobia, hatred and genocide.
Now you have lost it! In what fvking way do I resemble Omenka?? How?? Didn't I tell you earlier that you have built a reputation of telling lies on NL?? This is proof of it! Rubbish!
Anyone who doesn't support your lies and deceit is exhibiting Igbophobia in your twisted mind. Continue....
Politics / Re: Osinbajo Admits Approving N640 Billion Oil Contracts For NNPC by Vivere: 4:51pm On Oct 12, 2017
seunmsg:
Presidential assent to any contract under Public procurement act that is above the tenders board threshold without FEC approval is illegal.
Where is it stated that FEC approval was not obtained in Baru's memo or Osinbajo's response??
Politics / Re: Osinbajo Admits Approving N640 Billion Oil Contracts For NNPC by Vivere: 4:41pm On Oct 12, 2017
Blue3k:
Why are these salty people always shifting goal post. First it was Buhari doing work in sick bed as president now it's the VP is being black mailed.

The FEC and VP approved contracts what's this nonsense about missing money. Kachikwu letter didn't even claim such. He said due process was violated when awarding contracts.
I like your picture of the shifting goal posts.

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