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Politics / Re: SA Vs Nigeria – I Am Sorry, But The Field Is Skewed Against Nigeria by Xris74: 5:30pm On Sep 04, 2019
Iamgrey5:
You are not making any sense

None of them confirmed any Nigerian ownership, both were concerned about Nigerian jobs

Do you use your head at all?

What does Board membership entail? Do you support unstrategic burning and looting of MTN and others or seizing them (as the article suggested) and compensating actual xenophobia victims? What are you arguing here?
Politics / Re: SA Vs Nigeria – I Am Sorry, But The Field Is Skewed Against Nigeria by Xris74: 5:28pm On Sep 04, 2019
GrossPrice:




SOURCE: Jentzsch, C. (2014). Opportunities and Challenges to Financing African Union Peace Operations. African Conflict and Peacebuilding Review, 4(2), 86-107. doi:10.2979/africonfpeacrevi.4.2.86

Libya contributes 15% of AU's budget until Ghaddafi's oust.




We are talking of 2018 you are citing 2014 articles and Libya? When did Ghadafi die again?
Politics / Re: SA Vs Nigeria – I Am Sorry, But The Field Is Skewed Against Nigeria by Xris74: 5:23pm On Sep 04, 2019
Iamgrey5:
You are the Myopic one

How does he claim MTN or Multi choice is owned by Nigerians in his tweets ?

In a series of tweets on his verified Twitter handle, Saraki wrote: “Videos of Nigerians engaging in reprisal attacks in Nigeria against businesses believed, in many cases erroneously, to be owned by South Africans are disheartening and disturbing. ”

Daily Post

There you have it. Also google what Lai Mohamed said about it. Also find that video where the woman was lamenting her store looted in the Mall in Lagos.
Politics / Re: SA Vs Nigeria – I Am Sorry, But The Field Is Skewed Against Nigeria by Xris74: 5:21pm On Sep 04, 2019
Iamgrey5:
Stfu


You really should be telling that to Lai Mogammed and Saraki who think otherwise. They are your leaders. After that, go back and read this post (I have read it over an over and it makes a lot of sense to me) more carefully to get the entire gist of it. Might I reiterate that SA is just a temporary enemy. Your real and permanent enemy are your own leaders who stole your inheritance, making you travel all over the damn place looking for greener pasture and getting killed or embarrassed in the process. Don't forget it's not only SA. There is Ghana, Kenya, Malaysia etc hunting down Nigerians. Look at the bigger picture, dude.
Politics / Re: SA Vs Nigeria – I Am Sorry, But The Field Is Skewed Against Nigeria by Xris74: 5:12pm On Sep 04, 2019
Iamgrey5:
He is a sponsored propagandist.

He is writing on behalf of the companies who need to exaggerate the Nigerian ownership within the company in a bid to protect their interest.

Although, I don't support the mob action because of the Nigerian jobs involved.

You are very myopic. Did you read the article at all? Again, read Saraki here

Xenophobia: Belief that Shoprite, MTN, DSTV, others are owned by South Africans erroneous – Saraki

https://abiaonline.com.ng/2019/09/04/xenophobia-belief-that-shoprite-mtn-dstv-others-are-owned-by-south-africans-erroneous-saraki/?fbclid=IwAR1ac9BMH0P8IAW6n7hFwPOiBSYUMFDMMZbyo73SQx_PIJv1qEcgmtYeSEU
Politics / Re: SA Vs Nigeria – I Am Sorry, But The Field Is Skewed Against Nigeria by Xris74: 5:10pm On Sep 04, 2019
Iamgrey5:
South Africans still own the largest share in MTN Nigeria the last time I checked.


Read what Saraki said here. He was the Senate President. He should know.

Xenophobia: Belief that Shoprite, MTN, DSTV, others are owned by South Africans erroneous – Saraki

https://abiaonline.com.ng/2019/09/04/xenophobia-belief-that-shoprite-mtn-dstv-others-are-owned-by-south-africans-erroneous-saraki/?fbclid=IwAR1ac9BMH0P8IAW6n7hFwPOiBSYUMFDMMZbyo73SQx_PIJv1qEcgmtYeSEU

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Politics / Re: SA Vs Nigeria – I Am Sorry, But The Field Is Skewed Against Nigeria by Xris74: 5:09pm On Sep 04, 2019
asuustrike1:

Exactly! So I wonder what op is trying to achieve
Duh! Even if Nigerians own only 10% (which CANNOT BE TRUE) does that warrant burning instead of seizing and using the funds for compensating the actual victims in SA? Now tell me, those looters in Lagos and elsewhere, what is their loss in all of this? The actual Nigerian victims are still in SA fighting for their lives.

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Politics / Re: SA Vs Nigeria – I Am Sorry, But The Field Is Skewed Against Nigeria by Xris74: 5:06pm On Sep 04, 2019
asuustrike1:

I remember vividly that MTN is registered as a Public Limited Liability Company hence there must be disclosure

Then find it and post it here
Politics / Re: SA Vs Nigeria – I Am Sorry, But The Field Is Skewed Against Nigeria by Xris74: 4:59pm On Sep 04, 2019
Iamgrey5:
How do you know this?

Google is your friend. Use it
Politics / Re: SA Vs Nigeria – I Am Sorry, But The Field Is Skewed Against Nigeria by Xris74: 4:58pm On Sep 04, 2019
asuustrike1:
1.You gave a board structure but you fail to state the number of shares by each representative?
2. How shares are owned by Nigerians assuming it belongs to us?

Number of shares is a private affair known only to the investor, the company, the stockbroker and the shares registrars. However, to be on the board of a company means substantial shareholding. There are still many other shareholders who are not on the Board. I own large shares in Zenith, First Bank and a couple other investments. But I am not on the Board of any because even though my shares are large, they never reach board level yetgrin grin

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Politics / Re: SA Vs Nigeria – I Am Sorry, But The Field Is Skewed Against Nigeria by Xris74: 4:47pm On Sep 04, 2019
I looked up the possibility of African countries affected by xenophobia in SA working with The African Union (AU) to sanction SA.But alas, I learned in the process that SA is as much a big donor to AU as Nigeria. You know what that means, right? SA will simply threaten to withdraw its own funding, and AU will become at least half silent. So, it would seem that head or tail, Nigeria is not wining this one.

Sadly, Nigeria has no clout at the AU. Whereas SA is one of the biggest donors to AU and also up to date with its dues, Nigeria is still owing months of arrears of its dues. Giant of Africa my anus grin grin grin grin grin

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Politics / Re: Xenophobia:Hundreds Of Nigerians In South Africa Lined Up To Be Deported (Video) by Xris74: 4:32pm On Sep 04, 2019
Fake news. These are South Africans arrested by their police for looting and burning. Of course its all for the cameras. They will all be released

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Politics / Re: SA Vs Nigeria – I Am Sorry, But The Field Is Skewed Against Nigeria by Xris74: 4:30pm On Sep 04, 2019
Interesting! I wrote something along this line a few days ago and posted here on NL. It disappeared; apparently deleted by the MODs.

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Politics / Re: Aviation: Storm Over Ethnic Agenda by Xris74: 1:58am On Oct 24, 2012
bittyend: Any stat that doesn't put Yorubas at the top is false to you clowns, but the one released by a Yoruba man at NBS(Kale) is the real one. cheesy

Pathetic clowns!
Fixed
Politics / Re: Eze Ndi Igbo Election 2012 - And the winner is ... by Xris74: 12:10am On Oct 24, 2012
Demdem:

Kiss ma arsse Foool.

Your arse smells of ewedu. Good for Tinubu, not for me.

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Politics / Re: Eze Ndi Igbo Election 2012 - And the winner is ... by Xris74: 12:09am On Oct 24, 2012
coogar:

you are a fool - what did he say that warranted you to insult him? na your papa get nairaland?

Stop being an iddiot.
Politics / Re: Eze Ndi Igbo Election 2012 - And the winner is ... by Xris74: 11:20pm On Oct 23, 2012
Demdem:

Says pointlessB and his cohorts. Let the people decide who they want and not what few want. If he loses, so be it but he must and his contesting.
Can you get the fucccckkk outta here? Go vote for Tinubu.
Politics / Re: Eze Ndi Igbo Election 2012 - And the winner is ... by Xris74: 11:08pm On Oct 23, 2012
I vote for Onlytruth.
Not being familiar with the ladies listed, I go by tum bum tum bum (lol) and pick Ogugua
Crime / Re: Nigerian Pastor in Ukraine Charged with Fraud by Xris74: 8:04pm On Oct 23, 2012
ozo-dimgba:
1 2 go let the tribal war begin frm here, wish you Goodluck.

Nothing dey happen. The fake pastor has taken his people's corrupt lifestyle to Ukraine
Politics / Re: Obasanjo, Fashola At Loggerhead Over Seized Vehicle by Xris74: 7:59pm On Oct 23, 2012
Typical Yoruba drama: dog eat dog; cat vomit swallowed rat
Politics / Re: Aviation: Storm Over Ethnic Agenda by Xris74: 7:50pm On Oct 23, 2012
tunnytox:

how many times are you going to repeat the word gbomogbomo? is that the only word you learned throughout your sojourn in Yorubaland? don't tell me that there is no ibo word for kidnappers. So your people leant kidnapping from Yorubas? what a ridiculous statement! and you decided to take it to higher level shey? Only someone with an IQ of a chicken will put up a mo.ro.nic post like the above.

I'd like you to teach me the Igbo equivalent for gbomogbomo, and to tell me when that word was first used in Yorubaland.
Politics / Re: Aviation: Storm Over Ethnic Agenda by Xris74: 7:49pm On Oct 23, 2012
blaqoracle: the igbos are so detached from their history that they can hardly narrate their history earlier than postindependence era. this Is Linked To The Post war traumatic disorder where all their fore bears, who could told them their true origin and history, where vanquished during the war. the Story Of Igbo coming from israel is a fall out of the biafran propaganda machine.

And Oduduwa fell from the sky? Yoruba History 101.

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Politics / Re: Aviation: Storm Over Ethnic Agenda by Xris74: 7:33pm On Oct 23, 2012
geeez:

In all my trips internationally, I come across more Yoruba people than any other tribe. Except your igbo peeps travel abroad by road

No surprises. Obviously as a Yoruba you travel to see your fellow Yorubas for owambe. That is what tribalism has reduced your people to. Igbos being the most traveled Nigerians, interact with everyone, their ethnicity notwithstanding. Any country without an Igbo means there are no Africans there.
Politics / Re: Aviation: Storm Over Ethnic Agenda by Xris74: 7:10pm On Oct 23, 2012
4chi:
And another offspring of the primitive clan emerges from his cave and yarns rubbish!! Typical Asiwere that you are,my post did not give you any food for thought .like all primitive Igbos,your unrefined nature is repulsive to civilised societies, and it hasn't changed even with all the relationship you've had with superior species. You lot are a hopeless lot and a menace to decent society

Is this how superior you are? Hahahaha! Superior monkey in Ijebu zoo.
Crime / Nigerian Pastor in Ukraine Charged with Fraud by Xris74: 7:01pm On Oct 23, 2012
Flamboyant Nigerian God-Man Pastor in Ukraine Charged with Fraud

The Nigerian Pastor in Ukraine

Flambouyant Nigerian pastor and apparently Ukraine’s most prominent Pentecostal leader, Sunday Adelaja, has been indicted on fraud charges. Pastor Adelaja is the senior pastor of the largest church in the Ukraine, “The Embassy of the Blessed Kingdom of God for All Nations, Kiev.”

The Ukrainian Interior Ministry has accused him of defrauding citizens of money, the ministry’s Department for Media Liaison and International Activity said. Sunday Champion gathered that the amount is over $100m.

“The investigator has brought charges against Nigerian citizen Sunday Adelaja, who permanently resides in Ukraine and is a senior pastor at the Embassy of God church. The charges were brought under Part 4, Article 190 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine (the embezzlement of funds in very large amounts via fraud),” the ministry said.

Last month, several church members went to authorities saying they were unable to recover the money they invested, which left many of them bankrupt. Police later arrested one of King’s Capital leaders, Aleksandr Bandurchenko, on suspicion of fraud.

Speculation about Adelaja’s involvement with King’s Capital grew after reports surfaced that he was part of a bank in Nigeria known as GS Microfinance Bank Limited. Some speculated that Adelaja, a native of Nigeria, invested funds from King’s Capital in the African bank and planned to leave the country.

Adelaja, however, said those accusations are unfounded. He said he has never been involved with King’s Capital but denied that it is a Ponzi scheme, which uses later investments to pay dividends to earlier investors.

He said King’s Capital was a legitimate business that failed under the pressure of the global financial crisis. He said because the company poured most of the investment capital into real estate, which decreased in value, it has been unable to pay investors.

“When the economic crisis came, all the real estate is no more selling. The land is enough to pay back the money owed. … The problem is … everything is stopped in the country–nothing is selling now in Ukraine,’’ he said.

Adelaja said Interior Affairs Minister Yurii Lutsenko accused the church of involvement because he wants to undermine the evangelical movement in Ukraine. With several thousand members across the nation, God’s Embassy is one of the most influential congregations in Ukraine.

“(Lutsenko) is in a very bad situation,” Adelaja said. “He’s got to prove now that (King’s Capital) is a pyramid scheme, but he cannot.”
Adelaja said he never encouraged his church members to invest in the company and cautioned them to invest in businesses that offer insurance. “Of course … if you invest with insurance you get less percentage,” he said. “What happened was many people said they didn’t need insurance because the (King’s Capital leaders) were Christians.”

He acknowledged being affiliated with GS Microfinance, but said he invested his name and influence in the bank, not millions of dollars. He said GS Microfinance was formed to give small loans to poor Nigerians as a way of lifting them out of poverty. “It’s not about what you can get, but the vision of the program is to elevate and get as many people out of poverty as possible,” Adelaja said. “That is one of my lifetime passions … because I grew up in poverty.”

Although Adelaja has repeatedly denied any involvement in King’s Capital, which has not officially been deemed a fraudulent business, Pentecostal and charismatic leaders across Ukraine are calling on him to repent, saying they heard him encourage church members to invest in the company on several occasions.

“He was not a president of this company, but he was the No. 1 spiritual leader, and he told them what they have to do,” said Bishop M. S.Panochko, leader of the All-Ukrainian Union of Pentecostal Churches of Evangelical Faith, which is comprised of 1,500 churches across the nation. “He can do everything to tell them that he is not involved, but all the leaders have a lot of facts, and we have a lot of video of when he was pushing people, and he encouraged people to invest in this business.”

Panochko was one of 10 leaders who met with Adelaja last Tuesday to confront him about his alleged support of King’s Capital and the negative impact some of his actions have had on the evangelical church in Ukraine.

The Pentecostal bishops, who together represent more than 2,500 congregations, listed seven items of concern and said Adelaja has a pattern of making exaggerated statements. They pointed particularly to his alleged claim that he led the 2004 Orange Revolution–when Ukrainian voters protested a presidential election many considered fraudulent–and his reports that God’s Embassy has 100,000 members across the nation. The bishops say those and other statements are untrue.

After the meeting, Adelaja issued a statement saying he did not organize the Orange Revolution, though his congregation participated in the demonstrations. He also asked forgiveness for the negative impact the King’s Capital scandal has had on Ukrainian churches, but he added that he did not personally have any involvement in the company.

Despite the statement, Panochko said the bishops would continue waiting for Adelaja to apologize for allegedly endorsing King’s Capital. If he does not repent, Panochko said the bishops would issue a statement to Christians in Ukraine and abroad, and to the Ukrainian government, denouncing Adelaja and claiming no affiliation with him.
Moscow-based pastor Rick Renner, founder of the Good News Association of Churches and Ministries for Russia, Latvia and Ukraine, said Adelaja’s claims are hurting Christians in the former Soviet Union.

If convicted, Adelaja may spend up to 12 years in imprisonment, according to Part 4, Article 190 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine.

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