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Culture / Re: Pidgin English Etymology by Zambi: 1:35am On Jan 20, 2011
1) Sabi came from "saber", from the portuguese. It did NOT come from the Spanish and it definitely didn't come from French. "Savi" or the anglicized spelling "savvy" came from SABI, and is a word that evolved from the African-American creoles in the US. The v and b are interchangeable, as many of you shamefully don't even know (it's appalling!).

2) @ Segoye2, "Pidgin" does NOT come from Jamaica. It was the language of "trade" and enslavement and the language spoken by Africans on the continent as they exchanged Black people for weapons/goods, and evolved with continued contact with Europeans. It was a unifying language, one that was spoken widely by various ethnic groups and was already known, and at the very least familiar, to many Africans before they arrived in the western hemisphere as a result of the Middle Passage. Pidgins and creoles ALL use nearly identical African syntax and grammar rules, no matter what language, colonizer, or region in which spoken, because each group though divided by European language is using similar African thought and logic to navigate and make the language their own. That's why Brazil, the US (including Louisiana, the coastal East, and the mainland), and the French Caribbean ALL SHARE the same syntax and sentence structure. And that's why they ALL SHARE the same rules of grammar (particularly when adopting foreign words).

Upon arriving into the Americas, the languages continued to evolve and increased educational opportunities in certain countries and the use of "shame tactics" would result in increased de-creolization.

Jamaica, tiny as it is, does not have the power to influence the whole of African pidgin. Let's get that clear. Africa as it is depicted on the map is a SKEWED version of the map. You cannot imagine the true size of Africa and tiny, tiny, Jamaica (or any other tiny island) doesn't have the population numbers, capacity, or defense mechanisms to impose a language on African countries. The idea of Jamaica somehow "blessing" Africans with the means to communicate in trade is not only outrageous, it wreaks of Napoleon Complex and desperation.

Africa is perfectly capable of allowing its own languages to evolve in such a way that presents increased ease of trade and communication. And Africa certainly doesn't need someone else to bring her a language. PLEASE!

"Pidgins" existed throughout the coastal communities of Africa as they were the first to have contact with the Europeans and extensive contact at that. They were already dealing in trade and markets before slavery began to take place and they needed a language to allow them to communicate with these barbarians. Pidgin it was. And Jamaica had NO HAND in that. I can't even believe you would suggest something so ignorant.

There's another map I wanted to suggest, but since I can't remember the name of that type of map, maybe this will help inform you of Africa's true size: http://www.good.is/post/what-is-the-true-size-of-africa/

The ignorance, envy, self-loathing, and inferiority complexes present on this site are appalling and an embarrassment to Africa, and particularly shameful given the rich legacy that Nigeria has in the African Diaspora. Shame on ALL of you. You dishonor your ancestors with your contempt and thinly veiled sense of inferiority.

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