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vigopress: Excellent Governor of the Year! |
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The Governor of Zamfara has indeed exhibited amazing leadership qualities! Kudos! My Governor! |
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Nigeria didn't attend nor endorse the new capital. You edited the list yourself but Nigeria is not in the list reported by Aljazeera.
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Is it true that npvn.npower.gov.ng is a scam site cloned to the official npower.gov.ng ? |
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Giftez: bazaume@gmail.com |
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kazlaw2000: So this mallam, Baghdadi (leader of ISIS) declared the restoration if the Caliphate yesterday and himself the Caliph. Twitter is abuzz with the news with some clans in the levant, groups and individual pledging bayah (allegiance). So what do you think of the declaration. Do you think the Islamic State (as ISIS wants to be known now) will last, are you happy, will you pledge bayah or you see the declaration as laughable? There is nothing laughable in this matter. It was not long when the Ottoman was dismantled by the West and this is why Muslims hate the West. The incident of 1928 led to the birth of Muslim Brotherhood movement for the restoration of caliphate and from then other groups erupted to defy the Western way of forced democratization of muslim countries. The American behavior of pushing its way of life on people of other culture and religion is catalyst that trigger the agitation for the restoration of caliphate. ISIS and other Al-Qaeda offshoots came alive as a result of American oppressive policies. As for the question whether the newly-restored caliphate will last, I believe that depends on the justice and righteousness of the ISIS leaders. If they establish Shari'ah in its purest form, they will last, but if they relapse into corruption, injustice and illegal bloodshed then they will soon join the dusty history of corrupt Muslim leaders. If the ISIS Caliphate followed the ethical principles of leadership in Islam, no power on earth can uproot it. 1 Like |
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I now understand how people are lured into alcoholism by allowing the so called sinless sip of wine. Sometimes it begins fro m Holy Communion sip of wine and munch of bread to depict the blood and the flesh of Jesus. From sips to gulps and drunkenness. |
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@ Kunlebunmi, your use of the term 'Islamic Cleric' to describe such polythiestic rogue is unacceptable. One can emphathically assert without running risk of error that the loose way in which you use the term is either an attempt at defaming Islamic scholars or it emanates from sheer ignorance of the proper term. Such dubious criminals are not Islamic clerics but fortune-tellers and soothsayers. Pls take note! |
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Nigeria is now making me proud! Keep giving South Africans headache until they quit mistreating our people. I was about to denounce my Nigeria nationality owing to Nigeria's indifference to its citizens abroad. But my hope is back! Up 9ja!
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Matthew 7:21-23 21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' 23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.' So all these sham miracles allegedly wrought by false prophets are only manifestations of what Jesus (P.B.U.H.) prophesised. |
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As part of tribute we pay to him we include his name in our English vocabularies. With the cop's foolish boldness, we get a new vocabulary from his name- 'badang' which means 'foolish valour'. I call on Nigeria's security men to stop badanging when they are not fully equipped. |
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With the cop's foolish boldness, we get a new vocabulary from his name- 'badang' which means 'foolish valour'. I call on Nigeria's security men to stop badanging when they are not fully equipped. |
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Dexmond! It seems you only read my post with prejudice simmering in your heart. What I've dished out in the text is all about the efforts of Prophet Muhammad in the promotion of peace and that Islam is not a religion of bloodshed and violence except in self defence. However, your reply is off-point. Have you ever taken time to read what the prince of peace (Jesus) is reported to have said: ', and he that hath no sword let him sell his garment and buy one' Luke 22:35-36 This is for self-defence. But what about his statement when he says?: 'But those enemies who would not that I shall reign over them, BRING THEM HITHER AND SLAY THEM BEFORE ME' Luke 19:27 |
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Islam, a religion of mercy, does not permit terrorism. In the Quran, God has said: God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60: ![]() The Prophet Muhammad used to prohibit soldiers from killing women and children,1 and he would advise them: {, Do not betray, do not be excessive, do not kill a newborn child.}2 And he also said: {Whoever has killed a person having a treaty with the Muslims shall not smell the fragrance of Paradise, though its fragrance is found for a span of forty years.}3 Also, the Prophet Muhammad has forbidden punishment with fire.4 He once listed murder as the second of the major sins,5 and he even warned that on the Day of Judgment, {The first cases to be adjudicated between people on the Day of Judgment will be those of bloodshed.6}7 Muslims are even encouraged to be kind to animals and are forbidden to hurt them. Once the Prophet Muhammad said: {A woman was punished because she imprisoned a cat until it died. On account of this, she was doomed to Hell. While she imprisoned it, she did not give the cat food or drink, nor did she free it to eat the insects of the earth.}8 He also said that a man gave a very thirsty dog a drink, so God forgave his sins for this action. The Prophet was asked, “Messenger of God, are we rewarded for kindness towards animals?” He said: {There is a reward for kindness to every living animal or human.}9 Additionally, while taking the life of an animal for food, Muslims are commanded to do so in a manner that causes the least amount of fright and suffering possible. The Prophet Muhammad said: {When you slaughter an animal, do so in the best way. One should sharpen his knife to reduce the suffering of the animal.}10 In light of these and other Islamic texts, the act of inciting terror in the hearts of defenseless civilians, the wholesale destruction of buildings and properties, the bombing and maiming of innocent men, women, and children are all forbidden and detestable acts according to Islam and the Muslims. Muslims follow a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness, and the vast majority have nothing to do with the violent events some have associated with Muslims. If an individual Muslim were to commit an act of terrorism, this person would be guilty of violating the laws of Islam. |
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Islam is the only religion which teaches the existence of a PERFECT God. A perfect God means that there is no sharer in His Nature and His Attributes: "Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; and there is none like unto Him." (Holy Qur'an, 112:1-4) There has appeared a man in Benoni. He is not qualified in theology, but is fondly cherishing the self-delusion that he is an apostle of Christ, appointed by God to convert Muslims to Christianity. Because he is a lawyer by profession, he is adept at juggling with words and quoting the Holy Qur'an totally out of context without knowing a word of Arabic. He wants Muslims to believe that Jesus was also a God, a belief that is abhorrent to us, because it is an antithesis of the Absolute perfection of Allah Subhaanahoo Wa Ta 'Aala! Thus intent upon reversing the process of Truth, which is: "And say: The Truth has come and falsehood vanished. Surely falsehood is ever bound to vanish." (Qur'an, 17:81). In this he will never succeed because the process of Truth is irreversible. TWO REASONS He has given two reasons to prove that Jesus is God, viz: (i) "When we say Jesus is deity (or even God for that matter), we do not make him the Father! He is one with the Father and therefore HE SHARES HIS NATURE", and (ii) "HE IS IN EVERY WAY LIKE THE FATHER but he is not the Father". In short, according to him, Jesus is God because He SHARES THE NATURE OF GOD, and HE IS IN EVERY WAY LIKE GOD. These two reasons given by him to prove the divinity of Jesus are so puerile that they speak volumes of his legal training. Numerous quotations from the Bible are given below to prove that Jesus neither SHARED THE NATURE OF GOD, nor is he IN EVERY WAY LIKE GOD. He can, therefore, NEVER be GOD. We have given the quotations from the Bible without comment, because the Bible speaks for itself! TO SAY THAT JESUS IS GOD OR SON OF GOD IS NOT ONLY A MOCKERY OF GODHOOD, BUT BLASPHEMY OF THE LOWEST ORDER AND AND INSULT TO THE INTELLIGENCE OF MEN! (Note: Unless otherwise stated, all quotations from the Bible are given from the Authorized Version. In our headings and subheadings we have referred to Jesus as "God" in inverted commas in order to show the ABSURDITY of the claim of this man that Jesus is God!) THE BIRTH OF "GOD" "God" was created from the seed of David: "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the SEED of David according to the flesh." (Romans, 1:3) "God" was the fruit of the loins of David: "Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne." (Acts, 2:30) The Ancestors of "God": "The generations of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham." (Matthew, 1:1) The Sex of "God": "And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called Jesus." (Luke, 2:21) How Mary Conceived and Delivered "God". Mary conceived Jesus like any other woman: "The days were accomplished that she should be delivered," (Luke, 2:6) which means that she went through all the normal stages of pregnancy. Nor was her delivery any different from other expectant mothers: "And she being with child cried, travelling in birth, and pained to be delivered." (Revelation, 12:2) "God" Sucked The Paps of a Woman: "And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked." (Luke, 11:27) The Country of Origin of "God": "Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king. (Matthew, 2:1) The Occupation of "God": "Jesus was a carpenter by trade." (Mark, 6:3), "and the son of a carpenter." (Matthew, 13:55) The Transport of "God": "Behold, thy king cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass." (Matthew, 21:5) "And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon." (John, 12:14) The Wining and Dining of "God": "The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners." (Matthew, 11:9; Luke, 7:34) The Poverty of "God": "And Jesus saith unto him, the foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head." (Matthew, 8:20) The Meagre Possessions of "God": "Shoes of Jesus" (Luke, 3:16), "Garments and coat of Jesus" (John, 19:23) "God" Was a Devout Jew: "And in the morning, rising up a great while before day, he went out, and departed into a solitary place, and there prayed." (Mark, 1:35) "God" Was a Loyal Subject: Jesus was a good citizen, he was loyal to Caesar. He said: "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's." (Matthew, 22:21) He paid his tax regularly. (Matthew, 17:24-27) THE FAMILY OF "GOD" "God" Was the Son of Joseph: "Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, we have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph" (John, 1:45) Brothers and Brothers-in-law of "God": "And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works? Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence hath this man all these things? (Matthew, 13:54-56) THE DEVELOPMENT OF "GOD" Spiritual Development of "God": "And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom." (Luke, 2:40) Mental, Physical and Moral Development of "God": "And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man." (Luke, 2:52) "God" Was 12 Years Old When His Parents Took Him to Jerusalem: "Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover. And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast." (Luke, 2:41-42) The Powerless "God" (Jesus) said: "I can of mine own self do nothing." (John, 5:30) "God" Was Ignorant of the Time. Jesus said: "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." (Mark, 13:32) "God" Was Ignorant of the Season: "And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he (Jesus) was hungry: and seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find anything thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet." (Mark, 11:12-13) "God" Was Unlettered: "Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught. And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?" (John, 7:14-15) "God" Learnt Through Experience: "Learned he obedience by the things which he sufered." (Hebrews, 5: ![]() THE TEMPTING OF "GOD" The Devil Tempted "God" For 40 Days: "And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness. And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan." (Mark, 1:12-13) The Devil Tempted "God" Continuously: "And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season." (Luke, 4:13) Like the Sinners, "God" Was Tempted In All Things: "But (he) was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin." (Hebrews, 4:15) True God Cannot be Tempted With Evil: "God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (James, 1:13) Only The Ungodly Are Tempted With Evil: "But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed." (James, 1:14) THE MISSION OF "GOD" The Confession and Repentance of "God": before the beginning of his public ministry: "Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist" (Matthew, 3:13), "which signified the confession of sins" (Matthew, 3:6), "and repentance from sins (Matthew, 3:11). "God" Did Not Come to Save the Sinners: "And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable. And he said unto them, unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them." (Mark, 4:10-12) THE RACIAL "GOD" "God" Was a Tribal Jew: "The lion of the tribe of Juda." (Revelation, 5:5) "God" Came For The Jews Only: "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew, 15:24) Racial Discrimination of "God": "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew, 10:5-6) According to "God", The Gentiles Are Dogs: "It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs." (matthew, 15:26) The Kingdom of "God": And he (Jesus) shall reign over THE HOUSE OF JACOB for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end." (Luke, 1:33) The Titles of "God": "The king of the Jews" (Matthew, 2:2), "The king of Israel" (John, 1:49; 12:13) A "GOD" UNLIKE THE GOD A Hungry "God": "And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungered." (Matthew 4:2), "Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered." (Matthew, 21:18), "and on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry." (Mark, 11:12) A Thirsty "God": "(He) saith, I thirst." (John, 19:28) A Sleepy "God": "He was asleep." (Matthew, 8:24), "He fell asleep" (Luke, 8:23), "And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow." (Mark, 4:38) A Weary "God": Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well." (John, 4:6) A Groaning "God": "He groaned in the spirit, and was troubled." (John, 11:33), "Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave." (John, 11:38) A Weeping "God": "Jesus wept." (John, 11:35) A Sorrowing "God": "And (he) began to be sorrowful and very heavy." (Matthew 26:37). "Then saith he unto them, my soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death." (Matthew, 26:38) A Hysterical "God": "And (he) began to be soreamazed and to be very heavy." (Mark, 14:33) A Weak "God": "And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him." (Luke, 22:43) THE WARRING "GOD" The Strong-Arm Method of "God": "And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought." (Luke, 19:45). "And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem, and found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: and when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables." (John, 2:13-15) The "God" of War: Jesus said: "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." (Matthew, 10:34) The Sabre-Rattling "God": Jesus said: "And he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." (Luke, 22:36) The "GOD" ON THE RUN "God" Was Panic-Stricken: "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him." (John, 7:1) "God" Walked in Fear of the Jews: "Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death. Jesus therefore walked no more openly among the Jews." (John, 11:53-54) "God" Has Shown a Clean Pair of Heels: "Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand." (John, 10:39) "God" Fled in Disguise: "Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by." (John, 8:59) THE CAPTURE OF "GOD" A Friend Betrayed the Secret Hiding Place of "God": "And Judas also, which betrayed him, knew the place: for Jesus off-times resorted thither with his disciples. Judas then, having received a band of man and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, cometh thither with lanterns and torches and weapons." (John, 18:2-3) "God" Was Arrested, Bound and Led Away: "Then the band and the captain and officers of the Jews took Jesus, and bound him, and led him away." (John, 18:12-13) "God" Was Humiliated: "And the men that held Jesus mocked him, and smote him. And when they had blindfolded him, they struck him on the face." (Luke, 22:63-64). "Then did they spit in his face, and buffeted him; and others smote him with the palms of their hands." (Matthew, 26:67) "God" Was Defenseless: "One of the officers which stood by struck Jesus with the palm of his hand", he said: "Why smitest thou me?" (John, 18:22-23) "God" Was Condemned to Death: "And they all condemned him to be guilty of death." (Mark, 14:64). "They answered and said, he is guilty of death." (Matthew, 26:66) The Dumb and Docile "God": "He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth." (Acts, 8:32) THE SUPPOSED END OF "GOD" The Dying "God": "And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost." (Mark, 15:37) The "God" That Was Supposed Dead and Defunct: "Christ died." (Romans, 5:6). "He was dead". (John, 19:33) The Supposed Corpse of "God": "he (Joseph of Arimathaea) went to Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered." (Matthew, 27:58) The Shroud of "God": "And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth." (Matthew, 27:59) The Orbituary of The Late And Lamented "God": "Now when the centurion saw what was done, he glorified God, saying, certainly this was a righteous man." (Luke, 23:47) EPILOGUE According to this self-appointed apostle of Christ, Jesus is God because: (i) "HE SHARED THE NATURE OF GOD", and (ii) because "IN EVERY WAY HE IS LIKE GOD". But according to the quotations of the Bible given above, we find that Jesus did neither SHARE THE NATURE OF GOD nor is he IN EVERY WAY LIKE GOD. He is, therefore, definitely NOT God! The onus to prove that Jesus is God now rests with this Christian. Either he must prove that Jesus is God, or he must admit that he is a polytheist, i.e., a believer in more than one God. WITH ALL THE TRICKS AND VERBAL LEGERDEMAIN OF HIS PROFESSION, HE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT JESUS IS GOD!! He and his fellow-preachers in Christ, will never succeed in convincing the Muslims that Jesus was anything other than a natural man and a prophet of God, sent unto the house of Israel to bear the good news of the coming of the KINGDOM OF GOD, which prophecy was fulfilled with the advent of the Holy Prophet Muhammed (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wa Sallam)! |
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Islam cares so much for the welfare of Muslim nation and humanity in general, thus it does not condone anything that is detrimental to health and well-being of humanity. Unfortunately however, some prominent Islamic scholars in Nigeria were decieved either financially or psychogically to support the on-going polio immunization despite the apparent harm of its compositions ![]() These scholars are evidently oblivious of the fact that polio vaccine is made from monkey kidney cells and live polio virus. Even if we close our eyes to the possible tranfer of monkey diseases to human, it is improbable to find any excuse for consumption of monkey meat from Islamic point of view. Realizing the dangers of vaccines an American based web-site managed by professional pediatricians answer numerous questions sent by parents whose children were deformed by vaccine shots. Below are the Q&A from www.thinktwice.com: 1. When I told my doctor that I am not going to have my children vaccinated, he (she) became very angry and told me that he will not treat them, and that I am no longer welcome in his office, Do you have a list of doctors in my area who will respect my decision to not vaccinate and still treat my children? [Sample Letters] A. Your situation is not uncommon. Many pediatricians refuse to treat children when their parents object to the shots. This is just one tactic doctors employ in an effort to intimidate moms and dads into vaccinating against their will. You should be thankful that this dysfunctional relationship with your health practitioner has been terminated. I'm sorry, but we do not maintain a directory of "sympathetic" pediatricians, and are unaware of any such list. You might try searching for a naturopathic, homeopathic, or chiropractic doctor in your yellow pages. By the way, why do you need a baby doctor? According to Dr. Robert Mendelsohn, MD, very few childhood conditions truly warrant medical attention. This world-renowned pediatrician was ostracized from the medical community for writing a bestselling book teaching parents how to look after their children's health. How to Raise a Healthy Child, In Spite of Your Doctor will provide you with the confidence necessary to assess many childhood conditions on your own. We also recommend Smart Medicine for a Healthier Child, co-authored by holistic and medical doctors. This encyclopedic manual covers just about every possible childhood event, and gives YOU the option on how to handle each situation. Remember, in most states children are not required to receive vaccines until they enter school, and you have the legal right to exempt them from the shots. Acquire a copy of your state vaccine laws. These are available from your local library. State laws (and the two books just recommended) are also available from New Atlantean Press: 505-983-1856. Do not allow yourself to be intimidated and coerced by doctors. Read, study, become informed, and remain firm regarding your decisions. 2. Are vaccines mandatory? Vaccines are NOT mandatory. Visit our section on Immunization Laws for clarification regarding your legal rights and options. 3. Doctors claim that my non-vaccinated child will spread disease. As a result, some parents of vaccinated children won't let their kids come near or play with my children. What can I do? Q. My daughter never had a vaccination. I have recently been informed by my brother's wife that she feels my daughter is a danger to her 2-month-old son, and does not want her around for the first 18 months of his life. Her pediatrician told her that my daughter was a "disease carrier" and could give it to anyone around her. A. Some doctors will say anything to get parents to vaccinate, even if it doesn't make sense or is an outright lie. They spread this incredible baloney to make parents like you feel guilty, and to create tension between parents of vaccinated and non-vaccinated children. It is a ploy to coerce you into vaccinating your child. First of all, how could your non-vaccinated child be a danger to the vaccinated child? If the vaccines are effective, then the baby should be protected. Actually, it's the vaccinated children who spread disease. Many of the disease outbreaks that we are warned about today, are caused by, and occur in, recently vaccinated children. Q. In the December/January edition of BabyTalk magazine from the publishers of Parenting, there is a question by a parent worried about her vaccinated child being in contact with her neighbor's unvaccinated child (p. 17). The response is ridiculous, accompanied by a large picture with the caption, "One baby without shots puts all the rest at risk." Would you be willing to respond to the magazine with a refutation? Or possibly a parent whose child was severely damaged or killed by a vaccine could respond. My first thought was to write something myself, but it would be secondhand information by me. I am concerned for all the innocent parents who read this and become worried. They should have at least been advised to do some research on their own! A. We think Parenting and Baby Talk magazines are a disgrace to parents everywhere. They appear to be puppets of the medical establishment, with one-sided pro-vaccine medical advisors on their board. A non-vaccinated child cannot put vaccinated children at risk if the vaccines are effective. In fact, it is the vaccinated children who expose other children to increased risk. This has been confirmed again and again in outbreaks where a majority of the affected children were recently vaccinated. 4. My child was not vaccinated. How do I protect him from other children who were recently vaccinated? Q. I just had some visitors to my house and after about an hour of their kids playing with mine, they informed me that the 17 month old just got his shots this afternoon. I was panic-stricken! I have heard of people contracting diseases from others who are immunized. Is this true? What are the risks of exposure to my children? Any other stories like this? Then again -- if there is a high risk associated with not immunizing and contracting something by being around others who have, do you just stay home and live in a bubble, never going anywhere for fear of 'catching' something? Please respond and let me know if there is anything to be done now. Thanks. Q. I have not vaccinated my son. I am planning on providing daycare services this fall. My question is: If one of the daycare children was vaccinated the day before or within a range of a few days, is my son at risk in any way? Do vaccinated children "carry" the disease they are being vaccinated against? I guess my concern would be the live viruses like the oral polio vaccine, Any information you can provide would be greatly appreciated. A. Recently vaccinated children do carry the disease germ and are able to spread it to other children. Many so-called epidemics are initiated and spread in this manner, even though the unvaccinated are blamed. On the other hand, a passive immunity to the disease may also be gained in this manner. In fact, some "authorities" argue that parents who do not vaccinate their children reap the benefits without taking the risks -- a curious argument since they also argue that such parents are irresponsible by unnecessarily exposing their children to greater risk by choosing not to vaccinate. Some daycare centers do not permit non-vaccinated children to enroll. Wouldn't it be ironic to see the authorities' reactions if they discovered a daycare center that does not permit vaccinated children to join! Q. I am the mother of nine children, and none of them have ever been immunized, My husband is a chiropractor and his mother had not believed in immunization for the last few of her 8 children. I come from a traditional medical oriented family but that has had little effect on my attitude concerning immunization. I have had moments of stress concerning whooping cough and the fear of tetanus infection. But the one real problem that caught me totally off guard was when my girls began to babysit. I am concerned about them babysitting children who have just received the DPT shot. I have probably over-reacted by not letting them babysit any such child for 3 weeks following the shot but I have never seen any information about how long that child might infect others. I have read that the cases of polio stem from the shot, and of some people getting it by being in contact with a recently immunized child. I don't know if this is a valid concern or an over-reaction on my part. People don't think to tell a babysitter that their child has just had shots because it is such a normal thing in our society. I look forward to an informative response. A. Whooping cough is generally not a concern in older children; it may pass as a simple cold. Children under a year old are the main ones likely to experience complications. Every year -- until the oral polio vaccine was replaced with the inactivated "dead" vaccine -- about 10 people in the USA contracted polio by coming into contact with a recently vaccinated child. These cases generally occurred in people with compromised immune systems. For example, a grandmother with a weakened immune system may contract it by changing the baby's diaper. Simply stated, it is unlikely that your daughter is in danger. Q. I have a question that I have not been able to find the answer to. With our baby girl not having been given any shots, we were told we would need to keep her away from any age children that have recently been vaccinated. How true is that? And if so, for how long? Until she is what age? How do we know what children have been recently given any shots? If this makes any sense at all, could you please provide us with some direction? A. You can't possible know who has been recently vaccinated, so I don't know how you could "protect" a child from such exposure short of isolating him or her from society. Some researchers make the claim that non-vaccinated children gain protection from disease by being exposed to vaccinated children. (They also claim that non-vaccinated children are at risk of contracting these diseases.) If you are concerned, and know that a friend or playmate was recently vaccinated, you might consider keeping the kids outdoors to play for a few days. Otherwise I wouldn't worry too much. Q. Where can I find more specific information about the dangers of an unvaccinated child around vaccinated ones? This has always been a source of tension around other family members and their children as well. Two other family members consulted with their pediatricians and were each told something different. So now our family has three different doctors' opinions. One says it would be good for our daughter to be around a recently vaccinated child, the second says it doesn't matter at all, and the third says she is in danger because of her unvaccinated status. Could you help me please? Thank you for your time. A. You heard three different stories regarding whether your child is at risk when exposed to a recently vaccinated child. Some doctors say yes. Others say your child will gain "contact immunity" from being exposed to vaccinated children. And still others don't know what to say. If you are particularly concerned, ventilate the house (open some windows), or let the children play outdoors. But I wouldn't worry about it too much. 5. I don't want my child to receive vaccines but I don't want him to catch a disease either. What are my options? Q. Hello. I have four children. They have all had the "mandatory" vaccines and never once has anyone mentioned the risks. My youngest is 7 1/2 months old and is scheduled to have another round of vaccinations in two weeks. I am scared to let them vaccinate her, but I am also scared not to let them for fear that she may contract the diseases they are meant to prevent. What are my healthy alternatives? Thanks for your help. Q. I have a 1-year-old daughter who is healthy and happy but I am very concerned about her receiving her 1-year vaccinations. I am curious if you have any information about an alternative to future vaccines. If you could email me back with info or possible literature on this subject I would greatly appreciate it. Q. Thank you for the information on your web pages and reference material. However I would like more information on natural therapies and alternatives to medical immunization. In particular, homeopathy as a method to boost the immune system and as a treatment for childhood illnesses. I would appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction to find the relevant information. Q. I have decided against vaccinating my son the "traditional" way and was wondering if there is another way to help build up my son's immune system with homeopathic remedies? If so, where can I buy them and how do I use them for a 2 1/2 month old? Q. What are some homeopathic alternatives to vaccines? What do you recommend to boost the immune system of children under one year, and above? A. Parents must educate themselves prior to making a decision regarding vaccines so that they may sleep comfortably at night. If you are unsure, I recommend further investigation into this subject. Some of your options are to vaccinate, to consider homeopathic alternatives, or to do nothing and contend with disease if and when it occurs. (Many intelligent people do not think every childhood ailment is a grave cause of concern. They wonder why a child's immune system needs special treatment. Breastfeeding and natural foods work for many families. And besides, there are no guarantees that your children will not contract diseases after they are vaccinated.) Homeopathic remedies are available at many health stores. You may also consult your yellow pages to locate a local naturopathic, homeopathic, or chiropractic doctor. The Thinktwice/New Atlantean Bookstore offers several excellent books on vaccines and childcare options. For example, we import from England, Homeopathy in Epidemic Diseases. We also recommend How to Raise a Healthy Child, In Spite of Your Doctor by Dr. Robert Mendelsohn, and Smart Medicine for a Healthier Child, co-authored by two holistic health practitioners and a medical doctor. These books will empower you with options. Best wishes on your parenting choices. 6. My child received some of his vaccines. My husband and I recently decided that we don't want him to receive any more. Is there a danger in not completing the entire series of shots? Q. I want very much to no longer vaccinate my 14-month-old baby. I have a concern, though. He's already started down that path. Might it be more detrimental to stop mid-stream? Q. If we don't give our child the shots, will he have a higher risk because of the impartial immunization? I mean compared to both unimmunized and completely immunized children. Q. If our son had two shots but doesn't have the third will he have enough live virus to cause a disease but not enough antibody to fight it? Or by not following the recommended schedule, if he is forced to get a third shot later, for example before he goes to school, will the side effect become larger? Q. My daughter is 4 months old and is due for her next immunizations. I don't want to continue, but I am concerned that since I gave her first set of shots, that she may be at higher risk to get a disease now? What do you think? Q. Is it safe, once started on the vaccines, to just quit without any adverse reactions? I am afraid if I quit giving my children the vaccines that they may get hurt from it. Is this a false fear? The doctor wouldn't answer that question except that I am putting my children at risk for the disease. Q. My daughter is 5 and is scheduled to have her checkup at which time she is to receive the following vaccinations: Oral Polio, MMR and DPT. She has received all her previous vaccinations up to this time. However, the more I have been hearing, I have decided to do some research on these vaccinations, as I have had an unsettled feeling about proceeding with having her vaccinated. Seeing that she has had her previous vaccinations, I do not know if there could be any detriment to her for not finishing the series up. Could you please provide me with information regarding that? A. Both vaccination and non-vaccination provide certain risks. That is why every parent has an obligation to research this subject until they are well informed and comfortable with their decision. Vaccines are not antibiotics. They are pharmaceutical drugs. If, through your research, you determine that vaccines are toxic and detrimental, we fail to see how continuing them can produce benefit or discontinuing them can be harmful. 7. Shortly after my child received his shots, he started having seizures, [became autistic, died from SIDS, was diagnosed with a virus, or contracted some other life-threatening disease]. My husband and I are sure it was related to the vaccines. His doctor denies it. What do you think? A. Many children (and adults) receive vaccines and shortly thereafter have a serious reaction, often requiring emergency hospitalization. Such reactions include seizures, autism, immunological damage, neurological damage, sudden infant death syndrome, and/or a number of other rare and elaborately named "new" diseases. Often, the doctor, nurse, or hospital personnel will try to convince you that the reaction is "normal" and nothing to worry about. Other times they will claim your child contracted a simple virus, or is screaming uncontrollably (nonstop for hours!) because she didn't like the needle prick. These are all lies. Doctors almost NEVER admit a correlation between vaccines and serious reactions. Let me repeat: Do NOT expect your doctor to admit that the vaccines your child recently received caused a serious adverse reaction. In fact, he will most likely try to give your high-risk child MORE of the same vaccines in the very near future. If you succumb to his intimidation and coercion, you risk the life of your child. You must trust your instincts. If your child received vaccines and you believe that he had a reaction, he probably did. Sometimes the reaction is immediate, sometimes it occurs overnight or within a few days or weeks, and sometimes the damage occurs over longer periods of time. We receive many personal letters from parents with compelling stories. Many are certain that vaccines caused a serious reaction in their child, but their doctor denied it so they agreed to another series of shots. Often, the 2nd or 3rd set of shots caused permanent and irreversible damage, or proved fatal. Therefore, YOU are responsible for determining whether to continue the shots. For more information about vaccine reactions and doctor denials, visit some of the links above. You may wish to research vaccine studies or read about some of the problems with multiple vaccines. Information regarding specific vaccines is also posted on this website. Finally, be sure to contact the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) to add your name to the government's secret vaccine database. Their telephone number is 1-800-822-7967. They will send you a packet of information regarding your child's reaction, plus some basic information on the government's compensation program. Our website also lists several vaccine support organizations, some vaccine lawyers knowledgeable regarding your legal rights, and a few individuals who claim success reversing vaccine damage. Good luck. 8. My child received vaccines before I was aware of the dangers. How do I counteract their negative influence and/or flush them out of his system? Q. Dear Thinktwice, I love your website. Is there any way that the immunization shots can be flushed out of the system? Please email me if there is a way this can be done. Q. I have read that homeopathy can offset some of the destructive effects of vaccinations. My husband and I hope to adopt a 5-month-old child in the near future. Unfortunately, the child has already had one series of vaccines. Our hope is that we can gain custody before he receives the next series. Q. I would be interested in any references you might give me on homeopathic physicians who would help me to counter the effects of the first series of shots. Q. What can parents do once they've already immunized their children? Our children did not experience any "noticeable" harmful effects, at least in the short term. Do you know of any remedies that can be administered to undo the harm we have already done in ignorance? What options do we have? Q. I am the mom of a 2 1/2 month old. My husband is in his second quarter at chiropractic school. We decided that we would not have our son vaccinated. However, when I got to the clinic the doctors started making me feel guilty and I realized how ill prepared I was. I gave in to the shots because they started talking about spinal meningitis, etc. Well my son cried for 3 days straight. He would not nurse and he got a rash and still vomits. Is there anything that can flush his body of these toxins? A. I have heard Dr. Viera Scheibner, author of "Vaccination: 100 Years, " recommend doses of vitamin C, just high enough to cause a mild case of diarrhea. However, some health specialists claim that viral vaccines probably remain in the system for life. We suggest feeding your children with healthy, wholesome, organic foods. Some naturopaths and homeopaths (check your local telephone book) may have other protocols. Our website also provides Alternatives and Solutions -- a list of organizations and practitioners that claim some success flushing vaccines from the system and/or reversing vaccine damage. 9. My child was damaged from vaccines. How do I reverse the damage so that he will be normal and healthy again? Q. Hello, I am the mother of an 8-month child. Not aware of any of the problems, I allowed my son to receive his DTP-HIB shots at 3 months. He had a slight cold, but the doctor said that was no problem. After two weeks he started having seizures and is still having them. He is suspected of having the uncontrollable type. He is on all the medications thinkable with little result. I have mentioned my worry of a reaction to his injections, but the neurologists don't want to hear about it. With interest and horror I have been reading your site. In Holland we don't have such information. Something I am missing on this site is what can be done once the vaccination has been given? Can my son be tested to see if his epilepsy was triggered by vaccines, and if so, is there anything known to reverse the vaccination? Thanks for reading this and I hope you can give me some information. A. As you've discovered, children should not receive shots when they are sick, in spite of the doctor's recommendations. Of course, there is no guarantee that your child wouldn't react in the same manner even if he did not have a slight cold. Vaccines can cause serious reactions whether the child is healthy or ill. For example, several different vaccines (i.e., DTaP, HPV, Prevnar, etc.), and/or several vaccines administered simultaneously, can cause babies to experience seizures. Read some of our more recent letters to better understand the possibilities. Some people believe that homeopathy can alleviate some of the symptoms. However, neurological damage is hard to correct. This is why we try to inform parents about the risks of vaccinating before the damage is done. You may wish to contact a local naturopath or homeopath. We post a small list of organizations and practitioners who may be able to help you reverse vaccine damage. Good luck in your search for a cure. 10. My family will be traveling to a foreign country where vaccines are required. We don't want to get the shots. What can we do? A. Vaccines are rarely required to travel to another country. Some letters and responses are posted below. (If you are a citizen of a country other than the USA, and want to come to the United States, vaccines are NOT required. For more information, please visit our section on Immunization Laws, #6: U.S. Entry. ) Q. My family, including my two children ages 9 and 10, will be traveling with me to India at the end of next week. We will be there for three weeks. I will be traveling onto Nepal and North Vietnam by myself to visit friends. We will be mostly in towns, tourist places and a couple of wildlife parks. The CDC and doctors recommend hepatitis A, hepatitis B, tetanus, typhoid, polio, malaria (Larium or mefloquine), and possibly Japanese encephalitis. I saw the information on your web page about the hepatitis B vaccine. We are not aware of any unusual outbreaks of these diseases in any of the places we plan to go. We are tempted to not take any of these vaccines/preventives. We would appreciate your perspectives on any of them. A. Your concerns are common ones. The CDC and doctors recommend a cocktail of vaccines, yet we have received several notices from travelers who became so sick after receiving the shots that they never made it overseas. (You may also want to read about the problems some families have had with multiple vaccines -- several shots administered simultaneously.) As you may well be aware, vaccines are rarely required to enter foreign countries, Either you accept the vaccine premise and take your chances with a battery of recommended drugs, or you reject the vaccine premise and trust your body to defend you in the rare possibility of being exposed to one of these diseases. Best wishes with your decision, and on your trip. Q. Do you have information pertaining to travel vaccines? I will be traveling to Sudan. Is it worth getting Hep A and yellow fever vaccines or better off taking your chances? I'm worried because my daughter was damaged by her 4-year-old booster shots, so I know how bad they are. Do you have any information on Hep A and yellow fever vaccines? I already looked them up on the CDC website, but I don't feel they tell the truth regarding vaccines. A. The Vaccine Safety Manual has the most extensive, up-to-date information available on several "travel" vaccines. This 560 page reference guide contains separate chapters on hepatitis A, tuberculosis, yellow fever, typhoid fever, cholera, Japanese encephalitis, and more. Q. A lot of adult vaccines are really problematic too. I was recommended by a travel clinic to have the Japanese encephalitis vaccine for a luxury trip to India and Nepal. We're retired and this is the trip we've dreamed about. I went in on September 24 and had shot 1 of 3. They do a before and after blood pressure check. Before was 130/80. After was 140/80. Ten days later, I returned for shot 2. Before was 150/80. The nurse said she didn't want to administer it so I went home. The doctor said to go ahead and complete the series. I didn't. A week later my blood pressure was up to 160/80. Then yesterday it was 170/80, and they gave me a prescription for medication. I sent an email to our top travel medicine doctor who said there was no reason to have this shot. Please continue to keep people aware. I'm the sort who tends to believe the medical profession. Many are credible, but a few want to peddle unnecessary vaccines. I was given Hepatitis B the same day as well. A. Thanks for sharing your story. We know of several cases where "travel shots" were administered and the recipients of the shots became so ill that they were unable to go on their vacations. Best wishes. Q. I am heading overseas, and I am wondering about this whole issue of vaccines. I know from all that I have researched that I would never vaccinate my children if I were staying here in the U.S. But I am wondering if this is something I need to do for my children's safety, as I know that we will not have good medical attention where we are going. We are headed to Papua New Guinea, and the hospitals there are so bad that I would rather die than go to one! My son is two, and he has had all the shots because I had no idea about all the negative impacts they can have on children. My daughter is 6 months, and I am really wondering what to do with her. Help! I need some advice. Everywhere I look I see negative reports on shots, but that is here in the U.S. where kids are not bombarded every day with the germs that can cause some of these childhood diseases. I am open to whatever information you could provide. A. Some people are convinced that vaccines are beneficial. Others think they are detrimental. You need to study this issue until you are at peace with your decisions. For overseas vaccines, we recommend the following book: Vaccine Safety Manual for Concerned Families and Health Practitioners. Q. I'd like to say that I was deeply moved by the stories of these poor parents that experienced such loss. As a flight attendant, I am up for vaccinations of tetanus, hepatitis A, yellow fever, and typhoid. I am not going to get them even though they are strongly recommended. Do you have any information on these vaccinations just listed? A. We have heard several stories of families excitedly preparing for a trip overseas, then told that they should receive several vaccines for foreign travel so that they do not become sick. They received the vaccines and became so sick that they had to cancel their trips; many are still coping with their autoimmune and/or neurological ailments. You can visit a local library and read the Physician's Desk Reference (PDR) for adverse reactions and contraindications. Q. First of all, I would like to compliment you on your website. Very informative, just excellent. Here's our issue. We live in Canada and have two biological children who are not vaccinated. We are now in the process of adopting a child from Haiti. Therefore, we can travel to Haiti to pick our baby up, This requires shots. I have not looked into which shots exactly, but what is your take on vaccines "required" for traveling to exotic places? Also, after the baby is placed with us, we will have to make another decision, what to do regarding vaccinating the little one. It will be a child who is less than one year old. At this point we do not know if vaccines will be administered in Haiti before the child is placed with us. Do you have any experience with issues like these? A. Vaccines are rarely required to travel to other countries. They are, except in rare cases, only recommendations. We recommend caution. Adopted children are often vaccinated, re-vaccinated, and re-vaccinated again. Adopted and foster children are probably the most vaccinated children in the world. Request accurate records so that doctors and adoption authorities in the States do not insist on even more duplicate vaccines. Q. Regarding foreign travel? How will my unvaccinated children be affected as far as entry into foreign countries, and will they be susceptible to certain diseases due to lack of immunization? Q. How can I avoid having to take vaccines for international travel? I want to travel to Ghana, and I'm required to take a yellow fever vaccine. A. Vaccines are rarely required to enter foreign countries or to return to the United States. The State Department will warn you if they think your child will be susceptible to certain diseases. Then you can investigate and make your own decision. Q. I'm going to be traveling out of the country soon, and I've been advised to get malaria & some other shot. Of course I don't want to get them, and don't plan to, but can you recommend something to take that would give me a bit of protection? The stories they tell me about malaria are very unpleasant. A. Please visit our section on vaccine alternatives. Q. Are any of these vaccines for travel "mandatory"? A. Vaccines are not mandatory to enter other countries (except under rare circumstances), or to re-enter the United States. Note: Foreign citizens entering the USA are not required to receive vaccines. Authorities may try to intimidate you, and you may fear that without consenting to the vaccines your application for entry will be rejected. However, you have the legal right to reject "mandatory" vaccines. You and your children can claim an exemption. 11. My husband and I do not vaccinate. We want to expose our child to the real disease [chickenpox, measles, mumps, or rubella] so that she can gain a lifelong immunity. Can you help? Q. Dear Thinktwice, I am a displaced New Mexican in search of real chickenpox for my 7-year-old son. He has not yet had the disease, and people here, as in NM, seem to vaccinate their children a lot in order to avoid having to take time off work. Do you know of any way for parents like me to share the disease? I would be willing to travel (even all the way to NM if necessary) and babysit for the privilege of exposing my child to the real disease and providing him with lifelong immunity. Any help or advice would be most welcome. Thank you. A. Many childhood illnesses are tame and confer lifelong immunity. Vaccines cause adverse reactions and confer temporary immunity at best. They also alter the natural epidemiology of the disease. For example, before the measles vaccine was developed and mandated, measles was a common childhood illness. Less than 1 percent of all cases occurred in infants, teenagers and adults -- age groups more susceptible to severe complications. After the measles vaccine was mandated, the disease began striking infants. (Today, 30 percent of all cases occur in infants.) The disease spread to older children, teenagers and adults as well -- many previously vaccinated -- after their temporary immunity wore off. Childhood chickenpox is usually a tame illness and confers lifelong immunity. However, I suspect the chickenpox vaccine will offer temporary immunity and will serve to alter the natural epidemiology of the disease; we will soon see more cases in age groups susceptible to severe complications. In fact, statistics from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) are already supporting this contention. Children recently vaccinated against chickenpox are contracting both chickenpox and shingles. Often, it is hard to determine whether immunity from the vaccine failed or the vaccine actually caused the disease! Thus, I think your idea is a good one. You are not the first mother to request this. However, we are not aware of where you can go to expose your child to chickenpox (or any other disease). Good luck. Q. I was reading over the questions on your site. About the nursing student required to have a rubella shot: Is it hard to find someone with active rubella, get exposed to it, and by doing so, have the antibodies present, therefore not requiring a shot? I ran into this when I was looking into an internship. If no person can be located to "donate" the disease, then how else can it be transmitted to a willing recipient? Are there labs that keep live virus that would be accessible? Is there any kind of hotline for people looking for specific diseases to contract either for themselves or their children? Or is this now considered to be child abuse? That's scary! A. I remember when I was a kid and neighborbood peers caught chickenpox or measles, doctors encouraged parents to purposely expose their children to the disease. They recommended this because they knew these ailments were relatively innocuous, the disease would confer lifetime immunity, and they were more dangerous if contracted later in life. That was before vaccines were available. Today, now that vaccines are promoted and marketed with high-tech business savvy, doctors warn us about the dangers of these childhood diseases. Parents are taught to fear natural immunity. We have been asked on several occasions where to go to purposely contract some of these diseases. Sorry, we don't have a "hotline." 12. What is in the vaccines? How are they made? Where can I find a list of ingredients? A. The vaccine vials that your doctor uses to administer the shots contain a list of the manufacturer's warnings on who should not receive the vaccine. Adverse reactions associated with the vaccine, and a list of ingredients, are also included. Tell your doctor that you want to read these before you consent to the procedure. (Brace yourself for an extreme emotional reaction from your doctor. Many become angry and refuse this simple request.) A special report on vaccine ingredients is now available. You may order Chemical Stew: Your Guide to Vaccine Ingredients from this website. The Physician's Desk Reference (PDR), which can be found in the reference section of your local library, also contains specific information about the manufacturing process associated with each vaccine. 13. Who can I contact for additional resources? Where can I get more information about the vaccine laws in my country? A. This website provides additional vaccine resources. These include support groups throughout the world, vaccine studies, vaccine books, information about state laws, lawyers, and more. Explore some of the links at the top of this webpage. 14. I am outraged at the number of innocent children victimized by the vaccine industry. What can I do to help make a difference? A. Thanks for wanting to help correct the massive vaccine problem. We have lots of ideas on how you can become involved. THE COMPOSITION OF POLIO VACCINE Monkey kidney cells Vaccine ingredients Polio vaccination Estimated (1975) over 1 million monkeys killed. "The Indian government -- responding to popular alarm among its people about the widespread slaughter of Indian macaques for vaccine production and other research -- barred export of rhesus monkeys to the U.S."--Tom Curtis Ipol (Injection) Rx Polio vaccine contamination (AIDS, cancer) Rhesus monkey (SV40 cancer causing virus): "SV40 was delivered straight into people's bloodstreams along with their Salk shots and via sugar cubes in field trials of the weakened living virus developed by Sabin."--Tom Curtis "Dr. Eddy was aware that people were using monkey kidney cells to make polio vaccine. She had an interest in polio vaccine. She took extracts from monkey kidney cells that were being used for testing polio vaccines, injected the extracts into hamsters and observed that the hamsters developed cancers. She took that information to Dr. Smadel, her boss at the time, who totally dismissed it, saying that she was wrong, that they were lumps, not cancers. Some months later, I think in 1960, out of frustration, while she was at a meeting on polyoma viruses in New York, she mentioned, by the way, that one could also get cancers using Rhesus monkey kidney cell extracts. She was severely chastised by her boss and others for daring to raise the possibility that there could be oncogenic activity in poliomyelitis. Dr. Sabin was upset by this. Everybody was upset."--Dr Martin MD African green monkey (stealth virus, AIDS):"We don't know how a Green Monkey Virus entered to many members of the world population at the same time (Dr Myron Essex, in San Antonio, April 23rd 1987) "This gives us great concern, because that is what we make immunisations from." (Dr Myron Essex, International Herald Tribune, Paris, France, November 11, 1985) "The discovery in 1960 of live SV40 virus contamination in formalin-treated poliovirus vaccine, produced in kidney cells cultures from rhesus monkeys, did not lead to an immediate recall of the contaminated vaccines. Rather the production method was switched to the use of kidney cells from the much less well characterized African green monkeys. This switch in monkey species was soon followed by the decision to forgo formalin inactivation by using a weakened (attenuated) live strain of poliovirus. Persisting concerns regarding contaminating viruses in the live poliovaccine led in 1972 to a joint study between the vaccine manufacturer and the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Kidney cultures from all 12 monkeys tested grew African green monkey simian cytomegalovirus (SCMV), May 1995, I had developed tissue culture methods which indicated the presence of atypical viruses in patients with complex neurological diseases. , They were termed stealth viruses on this basis and seemingly they lacked target antigens for recognition by the body's cellular immune system. Sequencing studies on a stealth virus indicated it had originated from SCMV."--Dr Martin MD "Live polio viral vaccines are still made in African green monkey kidney cells today, now. I will spend some time if you want me to go on to current efforts to redress this problem, but at the moment, live polio virus vaccines are still made in kidney cells of African green monkeys, and the monkeys used are sero positive. Besides the megalovirus, there’s no reason not to suspect that cytomegalovirus would not be present in these vaccines."--Dr Martin MD "The one virus which we were able to isolate and characterize is unmistakably African green monkey cytomegalovirus. I had notified centers for disease control by way of a manuscript and a request to transfer some of this information when I first had it, which was back in 1994, without any real success, but when the data was unequivocal, which was in 1995, we contacted the Bureau. At that stage, we were really just trying to get some reassurance that they no longer used monkey kidneys to make polio vaccines and were told that unfortunately they still did, The issue of interest with HIV vaccines and so forth. , it is known that African green monkeys have a retrovirus called simian immunodeficiency virus, SIV. There is a general relationship between SIV and HIV, though they’re not that closely related that, by normal kinetic mechanisms, one could see that they were both coming together. What is of interest is the fact that the African green monkeys brought out in the early part of the century to America were SIV negative, The question is as to whether or not SIV infections in the monkeys in Africa may have, in fact, been introduced in this century and were not an infection that predated hundreds of years but, rather, was introduced into the monkeys in some of the early experimentation done in vaccine development, and there’s a real interesting argument that, in fact, man may have infected African monkeys which then, in turn, processed the virus and returned it back to man in the form of HIV."--Dr Martin For confirmation go to http://www.whale.to/v/monkey.html |
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SHARIAH LAW ON ITS WAY TO AMERICA (WORLD'S GODDESS IS REPENTING) On top of that, this Obama pick believes that "America's focus on the War on Terror [is] 'obsessive.'" And his list of countries that flagrantly disregard international law highlights North Korea, Iraq, and the U.S.A. -- which he collectively calls "the axis of disobedience." "Obama's most perilous legal pick," by Meghan Clyne for the New York Post, March 30 (thanks to Doc Washburn): JUDGES should interpret the Constitution according to other nations' legal "norms." Sharia law could apply to disputes in US courts. The United States constitutes an "axis of disobedience" along with North Korea and Saddam-era Iraq. Those are the views of the man on track to become one of the US government's top lawyers: Harold Koh. President Obama has nominated Koh -- until last week the dean of Yale Law School -- to be the State Department's legal adviser. In that job, Koh would forge a wide range of international agreements on issues from trade to arms control, and help represent our country in such places as the United Nations and the International Court of Justice. It's a job where you want a strong defender of America's sovereignty. But that's not Koh. He's a fan of "transnational legal process," arguing that the distinctions between US and international law should vanish. What would this look like in a practical sense? Well, California voters have overruled their courts, which had imposed same-sex marriage on the state. Koh would like to see such matters go up the chain through federal courts -- which, in turn, should look to the rest of the world. If Canada, the European Human Rights Commission and the United Nations all say gay marriage should be legal -- well, then, it should be legal in California too, regardless of what the state's voters and elected representatives might say. He even believes judges should use this "logic" to strike down the death penalty, which is clearly permitted in the US Constitution. The primacy of international legal "norms" applies even to treaties we reject. For example, Koh believes that the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child -- a problematic document that we haven't ratified -- should dictate the age at which individual US states can execute criminals. Got that? On issues ranging from affirmative action to the interrogation of terrorists, what the rest of the world says, goes. Including, apparently, the world of radical imams. A New York lawyer, Steven Stein, says that, in addressing the Yale Club of Greenwich in 2007, Koh claimed that "in an appropriate case, he didn't see any reason why sharia law would not be applied to govern a case in the United States." A spokeswoman for Koh said she couldn't confirm the incident, responding: "I had heard that some guy . . . had asked a question about sharia law, and that Dean Koh had said something about that while there are obvious differences among the many different legal systems, they also share some common legal concepts." Score one for America's enemies and hostile international bureaucrats, zero for American democracy. Koh has called America's focus on the War on Terror "obsessive." In 2004, he listed countries that flagrantly disregard international law -- "most prominently,North Korea, Iraq, and our own country, the United States of America," which he branded "the axis of disobedience.[, ] Even though he's up for a State Department job, Koh is a key test case in the "judicial wars." If he makes it through (which he will if he gets even a single GOP vote) the message to the Obama team will be: You can pick 'em as radical as you like. When the time comes let the adverseries of Shariah take their flight to Mars ![]() |
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In a study of Christian church members who approached their church for help with a personal or family member's diagnosed mental illness, more than 32 percent were told by their pastor that they or their loved one did not really have a mental illness. "The results are troubling because it suggests individuals in the local church are either denying or dismissing a somewhat high percentage of mental health diagnosis," said study leader Matthew Stanford, professor of psychology and neuroscience at Baylor University in Texas. "Those whose mental illness is dismissed by clergy are not only being told they don't have a mental illness, they are also being told they need to stop taking their medication. That can be a very dangerous thing." The results, based on surveys of 293 individuals, were published in the journal Mental Health, Religion and Culture. Why then should we allow ourselves to be decieved by sham miracles ? Baylor researchers also found that women were more likely than men to have their mental disorders dismissed by the church. In a subsequent survey, Baylor researchers found the dismissal or denial of the existence of mental illness happened more in conservative churches, rather than more liberal ones. All of the participants in both studies were previously diagnosed by a licensed mental health provider as having a serious mental illness, such as bipolar disorder and schizophrenia, prior to approaching their local church for assistance.- IBRAHIM BELLO ZAUMA |
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