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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:11am On May 05
TheGoodJoe:


If we count the Atlanta 96 Olympics performance, we will have to give it to Celestine Babayaro. He was magical at that Olympics.
We are talking Super eagles not underage tournament.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:25am On May 05
Kog45:
We are talking Super eagles not underage tournament.

I don't think we can class it just an underage tournament when some of the best players in the world were there.

Ronaldo De Lima
Rivaldo
Roberto Carlos
Crespo
Claudio Lopez
Zanetti
Juninho
Conceicao
Gallardo

By the end of that year, these guys were among the very best in the world.

So I disagree with that underage tag and Atlanta should not be overlooked for Celestine's contributions.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 10:26am On May 05
His club lost. But he still made it. Maybe he is doing something right afterall.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:26am On May 05
Kog45:
We are talking Super eagles not underage tournament.

By the end of that year, that Atlanta team was literally the Super Eagles.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:06am On May 05
TheGoodJoe:


By the end of that year, that Atlanta team was literally the Super Eagles.
Sir,Celestine Babayaro caps with eagles is 27 and Atlanta 96 not inclusive,so cuz he has good performance in that tournament we should force it into eagles caps.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:10am On May 05
TheGoodJoe:


I don't think we can class it just an underage tournament when some of the best players in the world were there.

Ronaldo De Lima
Ricardo
Roberto Carlos
Crespo
Claudio Lopez
Zanetti
Juninho
Conceicao
Gallardo

By the end of that year, these guys were among the very best in the world.

So I disagree with that underage tag and Atlanta should not be overlooked for Celestine's contributions.
Oga Atlanta 96 is what?national team or underage.

Do we need to argue this….Celestine Babayaro was my favorite LB but I will not rate him based on Atlanta96 performance when talking Super eagles

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:13am On May 05
TheGoodJoe:


I don't think we can class it just an underage tournament when some of the best players in the world were there.

Ronaldo De Lima
Ricardo
Roberto Carlos
Crespo
Claudio Lopez
Zanetti
Juninho
Conceicao
Gallardo

By the end of that year, these guys were among the very best in the world.

So I disagree with that underage tag and Atlanta should not be overlooked for Celestine's contributions.
South America teams don’t joke with under age tournaments so cuz Messi played in 2008 Olympics then we should rate the tournament at par with WC.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:14am On May 05
comodo:
His club lost. But he still made it. Maybe he is doing something right afterall.
Hope he get good offer at the end of the season

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 11:22am On May 05

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:23am On May 05
TheGoodJoe:


By the end of that year, that Atlanta team was literally the Super Eagles.
My samples is on Iroha,Babayaro and Taiwo in eagles.

Why should we include Babayaro Atlanta performance into eagles when talking about eagles best LB.

It would be disservice to include Olympic performance when we have Iroha and Taye who only had eagles rating.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:31am On May 05
TheGoodJoe:


By the end of that year, that Atlanta team was literally the Super Eagles.
Sir we all knew this but it wasn’t Super eagles
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 11:54am On May 05
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 12:00pm On May 05
jihday:
Chelsea have made first contacts with Napoli for the signing of Victor Osimhen! 🇳🇬

The offer being discussed was €80-90m + Lukaku and a young player, report by Dimarzio a sky sport reporter
so lukaku is still a Chelsea player
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 12:02pm On May 05
Kog45:
Oya pick the best LB.
For me I enjoy watching celestite play Lb them taiwo, I did not watch Ben iroha
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 12:19pm On May 05
komekn:


The proposition presented is based on the 2009 U17 tournament. That proposition presented the notion that so many stars were created, found, discovered from the tournament.

I disagree completely with the entire notion.

With regards to Nigeria Omeruo was classed as a star alongside Neymar, Coutinho, Casemiro, Allison, etc by this particles contributor.

Let me first of banish this notion that the U17 World cup is somehow the place that footballs best and most talented players are discovered. That's a nonsense in the context of world 🌍 football ⚽.

The best youth players are discovered playing in football teams across the globe and after outstanding performancescin club and league selected for national age grade teams. Not the other way round.

For instance Obi Arsenal most prolific 16 year old striker playing for both U18 and 21 has played for both Denmark and England age grade teams. His performanced in club and league got him noticed not selection for age grade national youth teams.

England had only recently taken U17 national football a bit more serious.

We should not be talking about age grade competitions prior to 2015 . Where we had confirmed Uncles like Stanley Okoro, Fortune Chukwudi, Sami, Onazi, etc but of course Omeruo was actually 15 if you want to believe.

Finally, maybe we should redefine what we mean by stars, because at every level there are stars. Village stars, local stars and world class stars like Neymar, Allison, etc.




As long as you can shine up in the sky when is dark, you are a star.
some may be lesser or bigger.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:21pm On May 05
Napoleon55:

The way you hate this tiki taka eh.

Tiki taka is not that bad when it's being executed by talented and gifted players.
we did enjoy it with Barcelona, in the era of Xavi,Neymar,Messi,Iniesta, Suarez and co.

It only becomes distasteful when you have a bunch of ungifted players playing it.
Bro I won't lie, I hate it passionately regardless of how it is executed. All these players are excellent footballers. Johanne Cryuff who is credited as creating the style is somebody I admire but doesn't change the fact that I hate tiki taka.
My bro, may tiki taka perish!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:22pm On May 05
Napoleon55:

Meliforme views na another case altogether, difficult to b understood,but he is not as hardcore as Thegoodjoe and Komkn.
I swear. Sometimes I'd read him and I'd be like how? How? That guy na something else
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:25pm On May 05
TheGoodJoe:


When you say all these things, I laugh. Possession football is here to stay and grow. No top club will sign a coach who can't coach possession football. More coaches are mastering and learning the art.
I don't have problem with possession football. I have problem with tiki taka which is just one out of many variations of possession football
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:25pm On May 05
TheGoodJoe:


How will the team perform? The first thing is strategy. Is not to stand here to say you don't like this or that. Tell us the pattern of play you like and examples why it is superior.

Teams keep adopting possession based strategy. See Arsenal today, at a Five minutes window, they hit a 96% possession. Teams are winning titles. Then you are here shouting you don't like.

Tell us the better PERFORMING system.
You missed my point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:27pm On May 05
Amedino99:
somehow the FIFA committee knowledge couldn't help him out while coaching in Egypt, Kenya and Sudan but apparently the players in the super eagles are the only one that can implement his ideas.
That like you said is primary school logic. We ain't buying it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:07pm On May 05
Kog45:
I want us to give fair assessment to our judgments regarding the trio.

Ben Iroha was a solid member of Westerhoff era and did so well.He has below Europe career.He won Afcon and had two WC appearances.What could have been his best tournament was marred with injury and Mike Emenalo step in.He had 50 caps and a goal.

Celestine Babayaro remain the best talking of European career.He played for Anderlecht,Chelsea and Newcastle.He played in two WC and was a regular member of eagles in the late 90 to mid 2000 with Afcons appearances.But I will rate his super eagles career average 27 caps and a goal.

Taye Taiwo would have been the best Nigeria LB.He started well with Marseilles but his transfer to AC Milan ruined his progression and he never recovered from it.He played in a WC and had Afcon appearances.He had good eagles career with 54 caps and 8 goals.

My submission,based on Europe career I gave it to Celestine Babayaro…..On trophy I gave it to Ben Iroha cus he was part of eagles that was ranked 5th in the world…..Ranking Taye Taiwo the best eagles LB would bring debate but If he was part of 2013 Afcon team he would have been adjudged the best cuz having 54 caps with 8 goals showed how solid he was with eagles.

I hope to see emerging talent that will break Iroha,Babayaro and Taye records in eagles.
the truth is I didn’t really watch Iroha, was too young for peak Iroha , but you said 2 world cups not sure he was in the 98 squad
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:12pm On May 05
comodo:
His club lost. But he still made it. Maybe he is doing something right afterall.
8.2 is very high and impressive, would be very disappointing if he doesn’t get an invite soon

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:14pm On May 05
jihday:
the truth is I didn’t really watch Iroha, was too young for peak Iroha , but you said 2 world cups not sure he was in the 98 squad
Yes he played 98 and was used against Paraguay
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:14pm On May 05
Very fair assessment kudos egbon.

If I were forced to choose I would probably go for Babayaro because of his technical qualities on the ball and ability to go forward and defend solidly. His longevity and overall impact in the SE is very low which admittedly would rule him out of the best LB conversation.

Iroha like you rightly noted was rock solid for Nigeria injuries did him bad.

Kog45:
I want us to give fair assessment to our judgments regarding the trio.

Ben Iroha was a solid member of Westerhoff era and did so well.He has below Europe career.He won Afcon and had two WC appearances.What could have been his best tournament was marred with injury and Mike Emenalo step in.He had 50 caps and a goal.

Celestine Babayaro remain the best talking of European career.He played for Anderlecht,Chelsea and Newcastle.He played in two WC and was a regular member of eagles in the late 90 to mid 2000 with Afcons appearances.But I will rate his super eagles career average 27 caps and a goal.

Taye Taiwo would have been the best Nigeria LB.He started well with Marseilles but his transfer to AC Milan ruined his progression and he never recovered from it.He played in a WC and had Afcon appearances.He had good eagles career with 54 caps and 8 goals.

My submission,based on Europe career I gave it to Celestine Babayaro…..On trophy I gave it to Ben Iroha cus he was part of eagles that was ranked 5th in the world…..Ranking Taye Taiwo the best eagles LB would bring debate but If he was part of 2013 Afcon team he would have been adjudged the best cuz having 54 caps with 8 goals showed how solid he was with eagles.

I hope to see emerging talent that will break Iroha,Babayaro and Taye records in eagles.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:14pm On May 05
elyte89:
https://www.completesports.com/2026-wcq-super-eagles-must-beat-south-africa-benin-finidi/



message from the new coach 😎
make he leave story, what are the details of the contract? Who are his assistants? These are what we want to hear
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:16pm On May 05
Kog45:
Yes he played 98 and was used against Paraguay
oh! I don forget be that. We went to 98 World Cup with a lot of tired legs, no wonder Denmark beat us like thief

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:17pm On May 05
chrisooblog:
Very fair assessment kudos egbon.

If I were forced to choose I would probably go for Babayaro because of his technical qualities on the ball and ability to go forward and defend solidly. His longevity and overall impact in the SE is very low which admittedly would rule him out of the best LB conversation.

Iroha like you rightly noted was rock solid for Nigeria injuries did him bad.

if injuries did Iroha bad them injuries destroyed Celestine, he never really touched the height he was supposed to, he was also indisciplined too sha.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:24pm On May 05
jihday:
oh! I don forget be that. We went to 98 World Cup with a lot of tired legs, no wonder Denmark beat us like thief
Tired legs like Yekini,Rufai,Eguavoen,Okafor,Iroha,Amokachi but the team generally overhyped based on Atlanta performance.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:25pm On May 05
Kog45:
South America teams don’t joke with under age tournaments so cuz Messi played in 2008 Olympics then we should rate the tournament at par with WC.

It might not be on par with the World Cup but I believe it is a very respectable tournament. Many greats, not just Messi played in it. Off the top, Marquez, Xavi, Eto, Ronaldinho, Zamorano, Pirlo etc. It is too huge to dismiss.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:27pm On May 05
Mujtahida:

I don't have problem with possession football. I have problem with tiki taka which is just one out of many variations of possession football

Can't comprehend what you are saying? List the coaches you like and the ones you don't like. Then I can get your idea.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:32pm On May 05
Na that indiscipline matter be the koko. Pesin wey go club the before match. Also remember how he was bounced from the 2004 AFCON squad for smuggling girls into team hotel after SE lost first group game against Morocco.

jihday:
if injuries did Iroha bad them injuries destroyed Celestine, he never really touched the height he was supposed to, he was also indisciplined too sha.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 1:34pm On May 05
jihday:
make he leave story, what are the details of the contract? Who are his assistants? These are what we want to hear


From reports , he will be meeting d nff board dis weekend,so by dis coming week , we should knw his contract details and upper week d list might be released

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