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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 11:13pm On May 05
I thought they changed the format? I though cos Chelsea will play cos they the Champions league within the last 4 years or am I missing something?
TheSuperNerd:
Play against Chelsea? Chelsea that isn't playing UCL football next season. 😭😭

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Longneck: 11:29pm On May 05
TheSuperNerd:
If Chelsea are paired with them naa.
Yeah
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:11am On May 06
Marjoribanks:
I thought they changed the format? I though cos Chelsea will play cos they the Champions league within the last 4 years or am I missing something?
that’s the club World Cup

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lbrichman2: 3:12am On May 06
Monsignor22:
I personally think PSG is the best place for Osimhen to go, if he goes to Chelsea then he will have to slug it out with Jackson (who despite all criticisms of his profligacy in front of goal is having a very decent season so far). And the attitude of Chelsea fans is that they will be overpaying for Osimhen when Jackson has more to his game except for elite finishing which he can improve upon.

Honestly as much as I love Osimhen, I wish he had the creative forward skills of Jackson or Boniface, I saw glimpses of that when he balled against Roma , Osimhen dropped deep and helped progress the ball forward and even created good chances for his other team mates. If Osimhen can do more of that he will be a complete player (he already has the pace, hold up play and physicality), all he needs to add to his game is passing.

You definitely don't watch Osimhen play for Napoli

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 3:46am On May 06
Okay!!
jihday:
that’s the club World Cup
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:50am On May 06
Marjoribanks:
I meant his only World Cup contribution. He almost made us missed the 1994 World Cup. I never said he is not a good player but he was not better than Kanu!
Good morning Marjori.I never said Kanu was poor,in fact he was the best till date rating Nigeria players based on achievements but my emphasis is on Super eagles cuz I watched both keenly,though both belonged to different eras.

My comparisons are based on their skills, techniques and intelligences on the ball.I respect the duo

Yes I remember that pass Siasia failed to give Yekini against Ivory Coast,blow out of proportions especially by the press with different sensational headlines.

I don’t think not giving Yekini a pass should be used to rub off his total contribution to eagles.The same Yekini had a clearer chance created by Emenalo against Italy and fumbled with it.

My stance on Siasia over Kanu in eagles is personal opinion.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:58am On May 06
jihday:
oya mention Kanu’s World Cup contribution and mind you Siasia went to just 1 World Cup compared to Kanu’s 3
I think it’s hard for many to believe that Kanu had very averaged performance in eagles based on his exploits in Europe…two APOTY winners,Atlanta 96,Under 17 WC and numerous clubs achievement like UCL winner with Ajax and great performances with Arsenal the invincible.

But fact,he wasn’t spectacular with eagles but had very great moments during 2002 WC qualifiers,his pairing with Agali was great,both scoring 4 goals apiece.

I don’t know how Nigeria fans would have rate another CF with 5 Afcons and 3 WCs with no goal,87 appearances and 12 goals.Despite Ighalo and Emenike feats in Afcon and eagles peoples still see them as below average CF.

Kanu brought smiles to us during Atlanta 96 and Nigerians will always rate Kanu based on that performance and as thegoodjoe said Atlanta team was literary super eagles.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:43am On May 06
Issahaku Fatawu cried losing Milo cup and today happy seeing Leicester back.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:32am On May 06
Kog45:
I think it’s hard for many to believe that Kanu had very averaged performance in eagles based on his exploits in Europe…two APOTY winners,Atlanta 96,Under 17 WC and numerous clubs achievement like UCL winner with Ajax and great performances with Arsenal the invincible.

But fact,he wasn’t spectacular with eagles but had very great moments during 2002 WC qualifiers,his pairing with Agali was great,both scoring 4 goals apiece.

I don’t know how Nigeria fans would have rate another CF with 5 Afcons and 3 WCs with no goal,87 appearances and 12 goals.Despite Ighalo and Emenike feats in Afcon and eagles peoples still see them as below average CF.

Kanu brought smiles to us during Atlanta 96 and Nigerians will always rate Kanu based on that performance and as thegoodjoe said Atlanta team was literary super eagles.


First of all, I will disagree with the notion that Kanu is average. For a person that watched lots of Kanu's games, I say he was actually key to a lot of our good plays.

I still don't understand what changed but in the past,.we had lots of tactical players that had deep understanding of the game. Sunday Oliseh, Celestine Babayaro, Finidi George, Emmanuel Amunike and Kanu Nwankwo were those that really caught my attention.

Kanu was not the kind of striker that gummed the final fourth or 18 yard box to grab goals. He instead was the player that operated very deep to create room for other offensive players to shine.

You can call him average when it came to goals for the Super Eagles but when it comes to contributions for the Super Eagles to fly, he was creme and supreme of most players.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:35am On May 06
TheGoodJoe:


First of all, I will disagree with the notion that Kanu is average. For a person that watched lots of Kanu's games, I say he was actually key to a lot of our good plays.

I still don't understand what changed but in the past,.we had lots of tactical players that had deep understanding of the game. Sunday Oliseh, Celestine Babayaro, Finidi George, Emmanuel Amunike and Kanu Nwankwo were those that really caught my attention.

Kanu was not the kind of striker that gummed the final fourth or 18 yard box to grab goals. He instead was the player that operated very deep to create room for other offensive players to shine.

You can call him average when it came to goals for the Super Eagles but when it comes to contributions for the Super Eagles to fly, he was creme and supreme of most players.
My comparison is between Siasia and Kanu in eagles and I want to say I got it wronged saying he was averaged but I rate Siasia than Kanu in eagles history,that’s my point which is my opinion.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 12:43pm On May 06
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 1:48pm On May 06
Kog45:
I think it’s hard for many to believe that Kanu had very averaged performance in eagles based on his exploits in Europe…two APOTY winners,Atlanta 96,Under 17 WC and numerous clubs achievement like UCL winner with Ajax and great performances with Arsenal the invincible.

But fact,he wasn’t spectacular with eagles but had very great moments during 2002 WC qualifiers,his pairing with Agali was great,both scoring 4 goals apiece.

I don’t know how Nigeria fans would have rate another CF with 5 Afcons and 3 WCs with no goal,87 appearances and 12 goals.Despite Ighalo and Emenike feats in Afcon and eagles peoples still see them as below average CF.

Kanu brought smiles to us during Atlanta 96 and Nigerians will always rate Kanu based on that performance and as thegoodjoe said Atlanta team was literary super eagles.

For me Kanu not scoring in any Afcon doesn't reduce his impact for the Eagles, if you're looking at just goals then you have a point but total impact in a game, kanu beat all. Watch most of the qualifiers that Kanu played then you will know siasia is not close. I got angry with kanu in either 04 or 02 Afcon can't remember, then the media was already saying kanu have no Afcon goal, this guy won a pk either against Tunisia and I was expecting him to pick the ball and play the pk and get his first goal, kanu just walked away and I was mad.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 1:49pm On May 06
TheGoodJoe:


First of all, I will disagree with the notion that Kanu is average. For a person that watched lots of Kanu's games, I say he was actually key to a lot of our good plays.

I still don't understand what changed but in the past,.we had lots of tactical players that had deep understanding of the game. Sunday Oliseh, Celestine Babayaro, Finidi George, Emmanuel Amunike and Kanu Nwankwo were those that really caught my attention.

Kanu was not the kind of striker that gummed the final fourth or 18 yard box to grab goals. He instead was the player that operated very deep to create room for other offensive players to shine.

You can call him average when it came to goals for the Super Eagles but when it comes to contributions for the Super Eagles to fly, he was creme and supreme of most players.
thank you for your submission, kanu was never average for eagles.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 2:15pm On May 06
elyte89:
My model wants to align with coach finidi 😊


https://owngoalnigeria.com/2024/05/06/turkish-based-midfielder-tops-agenda-ahead-of-finidis-first-list-as-super-eagles-coach/
Time no dey oh.
But come to think of it. They want to give him one year contract. All is well.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 2:27pm On May 06
TheGoodJoe:


First of all, I will disagree with the notion that Kanu is average. For a person that watched lots of Kanu's games, I say he was actually key to a lot of our good plays.

[b]I still don't understand what changed but in the past,.we had lots of tactical players that had deep understanding of the game. [/b]Sunday Oliseh, Celestine Babayaro, Finidi George, Emmanuel Amunike and Kanu Nwankwo were those that really caught my attention.

Kanu was not the kind of striker that gummed the final fourth or 18 yard box to grab goals. He instead was the player that operated very deep to create room for other offensive players to shine.

You can call him average when it came to goals for the Super Eagles but when it comes to contributions for the Super Eagles to fly, he was creme and supreme of most players.
Now u understand what we have been saying about past players,about how good and technical they were to interpret any tactical set up.
But u continue to believe they won't b able to cope with today's intensity of the game.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:33pm On May 06
I saw a report that Finidi rejected the names NFF presented to him as potential assistants.. he want Micheal Nssien..


To my understanding, Nssien is currently the coach of USA u-20...would he willingly leave that job to be an assistant super eagles coach?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 2:43pm On May 06
Danielnino00:
I saw a report that Finidi rejected the names NFF presented to him as potential assistants.. he want Micheal Nssien..


To my understanding, Nssien is currently the coach of USA u-20...would he willingly leave that job to be an assistant super eagles coach?

If he gets Nsien, that's almost 100% assurance that a video analyst go follow body. Setpieces Trainer too.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 3:12pm On May 06
Danielnino00:
I saw a report that Finidi rejected the names NFF presented to him as potential assistants.. he want Micheal Nssien..


To my understanding, Nssien is currently the coach of USA u-20...would he willingly leave that job to be an assistant super eagles coach?
They want to force Amokachi down his throat. I'd rather he have quicksilver than that sexy penetrative passes man.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:14pm On May 06
comodo:

They want to force Amokachi down his throat. I'd rather he have quicksilver than that sexy penetrative passes man.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 3:21pm On May 06
comodo:

They want to force Amokachi down his throat. I'd rather he have quicksilver than that sexy penetrative passes man.

Me too I don't want Amokachi or Amunike around him

Nsein seems to be good better

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 3:35pm On May 06
Danielnino00:
I saw a report that Finidi rejected the names NFF presented to him as potential assistants.. he want Micheal Nssien..


To my understanding, Nssien is currently the coach of USA u-20...would he willingly leave that job to be an assistant super eagles coach?


If na u nko …will u take someone dt is eyeing ur seat 😂😂😂, but y him no mention my name 🥹

I Dey loyal na
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:41pm On May 06
komekn:


You are right he is local Nigeria star,that's all .

But in terms of world football an anonymous low level defender.


A local Nigerian Star that retired your international Cameroonian star: Vincent Aboubakar grin grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:45pm On May 06
Kog45:
Chief,Komekn and Omeruo I no Dey put mouth again cuz it’s the same old stories…..he failed in championship bla bla

Simply because he is a product of the Nigerian Youth system. grin

Komekn and his borough mission grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BankyGee(m): 3:46pm On May 06
lbrichman2:


You definitely don't watch Osimhen play for Napoli
I swear 😂
Someone that averages over 75% passing accuracy per game 🎯
A lot of persons don't watch the guy, na to just come talk.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:48pm On May 06
TheGoodJoe:


First of all, I will disagree with the notion that Kanu is average. For a person that watched lots of Kanu's games, I say he was actually key to a lot of our good plays.

I still don't understand what changed but in the past,.we had lots of tactical players that had deep understanding of the game. Sunday Oliseh, Celestine Babayaro, Finidi George, Emmanuel Amunike and Kanu Nwankwo were those that really caught my attention.

Kanu was not the kind of striker that gummed the final fourth or 18 yard box to grab goals. He instead was the player that operated very deep to create room for other offensive players to shine.

You can call him average when it came to goals for the Super Eagles but when it comes to contributions for the Super Eagles to fly, he was creme and supreme of most players.
True.
If you really watched Kanu's games for Super Eagles, when you see those Assists and Goals stats you will want to tear them off.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 3:57pm On May 06
comodo:

They want to force Amokachi down his throat. I'd rather he have quicksilver than that sexy penetrative passes man.

Amokachi that has turned to a politician since leaving the national team on intermin capacity years ago.. NFF are not serious yet..
Normally, when a new manager is appointed, he is allowed to bring his own backroom staff. It makes the job easier for him.. But knowing NFF, they will want their own people in charge .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 3:58pm On May 06
elyte89:



If na u nko …will u take someone dt is eyeing ur seat 😂😂😂, but y him no mention my name 🥹

I Dey loyal na

grin grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 4:00pm On May 06
daveP:


If he gets Nsien, that's almost 100% assurance that a video analyst go follow body. Setpieces Trainer too.

I hope so o. Finidi need to be smart in his demands to the NFF if he wants his job to be easier... NFF might refuse to hire some personnel he needs. remember when Rohr and Peseiro were rumoured to be paying some of their backroom staff themselves because the NFF refused to hire them officially
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:09pm On May 06
TheGoodJoe:


Please the point is not discovering stars but the congregation of stars. It is a tournament that attracts stars. Maybe unknown at that time but their talents are undeniable.

Finito.

Calling them stars is premature.

Some of them are already showing exceptional ability and could be future stars then some have already arrived and are stars already players like Jude Bellingham for instance.

The terminology stars is very ambiguous what you call a star ⭐ Brazil is very different from what you call a star in Nigeria. The standard are not the same.

For instance 17 year old Endrick Felipe Moreira de Sousa has already played three seasons in the top flight of Brazil premier 1st tier league. He scored against England it is uncontestable to call him a star.

You are too quick to players stars in my opinion. Then it becomes a matter of context, there are star footballers on my old street in Warri. But that is strictly local street stars. They are not stars in the context of world 🌎 top level youth players. They are what you may call local champions 🏆

You then created a parameters to qualify players as stars ⭐ ⭐ and that being once you have played for your national team. Not all national teams have the same quality, you will not find any low level quality players playing for the top 10 seeded team in the world.

You then put Omeruo who at the very best is bang very average defender, in the same list with Casemiro, Neymar, Allison,etc that's Ludicrous and comedic 😅.

I don't look at Nigerian 🇳🇬 players in isolation but in comparison to the top players before calling them exceptional. You look at them mostly in isolation that's being biased unrealistic.

For instance people have called Tijani one of the best young midfielders in Europe at 22. Dude is playing in the Austrian league that's delusional.

It's the same narrative many of you have about Nwakali, Dude has done absolutely nothing beyond youth football ⚽ 8 years ago. You look at him in isolation and give unmerited accolades. His team has been in relegation since day one literally. You exaggerate his very very limited attributes to the point of absurdity.

There are hundreds of Nigerian born players across Europe what's the obsession with mediocrity.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:12pm On May 06
komekn:


Calling them stars is premature.

Some of them are already showing exceptional ability and could be future stars then some have already arrived and are stars already players like Jude Bellingham for instance.

The terminology stars is very ambiguous what you call a star ⭐ Brazil is very different from what you call a star in Nigeria. The standard are not the same.

For instance 17 year old Endrick Felipe Moreira de Sousa has already played three seasons in the top flight of Brazil premier 1st tier league. He scored against England it is uncontestable to call him a star.

You are too quick to players stars in my opinion. Then it becomes a matter of context, there are star footballers on my old street in Warri. But that is strictly local street stars. They are not stars in the context of world 🌎 top level youth players. They are what you may call local champions 🏆

You then created a parameters to qualify players as stars ⭐ ⭐ and that being once you have played for your national team. Not all national teams have the same quality, you will not find any low level quality players playing for the top 10 seeded team in the world.

You then put Omeruo who at the very best is bang very average defender, in the same list with Casemiro, Neymar, Allison,etc that's Ludicrous and comedic 😅.

I don't look at Nigerian 🇳🇬 players in isolation but in comparison to the top players before calling them exceptional. You look at them mostly in isolation that's being biased unrealistic.

For instance people have called Tijani one of the best young midfielders in Europe at 22. Dude is playing in the Austrian league that's delusional.

It's the same narrative many of you have about Nwakali, Dude has done absolutely nothing beyond youth football ⚽ 8 years ago. You look at him in isolation and give unmerited accolades. His team has been in relegation since day one literally. You exaggerate his very very limited attributes to the point of absurdity.

There are hundreds of Nigerian born players across Europe what's the obsession with mediocrity.



The point is simple. To achieve in the midst of such quality of the likes of Brazil, Argentina and Europeans is spectacular.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:14pm On May 06
Napoleon55:

Now u understand what we have been saying about past players,about how good and technical they were to interpret any tactical set up.
But u continue to believe they won't b able to cope with today's intensity of the game.

The point is that the tactility and intensity of the game today is above that of the past. Meaning that what gave the likes of Oliseh, Kanu, and Henry leverage in the past, more players are exposed to it today.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:16pm On May 06
Meliforme:


"You don't teach an old dog a new trick", were some of the retorts i got some of the times that i stood in defense of Wilfred Ndidi.

I doubt if anyone on this thread, have gotten those retorts the number of times they were said to me.

I kept saying Ndidi has it in him
, I kept giving the reasons that he has been told severally to keep it simple, i also pointed out the possibilities of improving, because i take time to study a player before arriving at conclusions.

I like telling my observations no matter how they might sound.

Can you be specific and not emotively fluid, what exactly does Ndidi have please anchor ⚓ your observation on outcome delivery statistics and comparison.

For instance if I say that a player is exceptional, his stats should be among the top 🔝 10 at the very least in the league.

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