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Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by walefresh3(m): 7:13am On Sep 29, 2021
Rolings:


Okay if you say so......but why should APC in particular zone the president to south east in 2023?... it will be grossly unfair to yorubas if APC does that....like you , we yorubas too settled for VP under buhari in the hope that the VP will take over from him.
Fair enough
for peace, unity and equity... In other to also prove our loyalty to southern region... We can allow South East to have it... But them must humbled ... They need us most for that to happen... Not blackmailing us.. Thier is power in unity...The south must unit first with one voice... If they really want equal stake in this contraption...It is only southern unity that can give us GREAT opportunity for true fiscal federalism...
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by DMerciful(m): 7:13am On Sep 29, 2021
They hate us for no reason.

Even the Fulanis that brought bokoharam, herdsmen and bandits are not hated as much as Igbos when it comes to political power.
Ovamboland:


Will Nigerians now love ibos after serving as VP? No need to change your attitude to other Nigerians?
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by Rolings: 7:14am On Sep 29, 2021
walefresh3:
for peace, unity and equity... In other to also prove our loyalty to southern region... We can allow South East to have it... But them must humbled ... They need us most for that to happen... Not blackmailing us.. Thier is power in unity...The south must unit first with one voice... If they really want equal stake in this contraption...It is only southern unity that can give us GREAT opportunity for true fiscal federalism...

Agree
But will they swallow the humble pie...only time will tell
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by DMerciful(m): 7:15am On Sep 29, 2021
You guys are extremely greedy. Is Obj not a Yoruba man? So after doing president 8yrs, vp 8yrs, you still want to do president 8yrs, right?

Greed in its ethnic form!
Rolings:


Okay if you say so......but why should APC in particular zone the president to south east in 2023?... it will be grossly unfair to yorubas if APC does that....like you , we yorubas too settled for VP under buhari in the hope that the VP will take over from him.
Fair enough
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by Norwichsailor(m): 7:15am On Sep 29, 2021
Safyqueen:


Just to educate me please, how is Buhari treating the South?
Is it by appointment as 'hypocrised' by the media?
The media has turned everybody from the three northern zones as Fulani. Therefore for every three appointments, they want to see one Yoruba, one IBO and one Fulani. Is that correct by their hypothesis? No.

The correct ratio is one to each zone which Buhari perfectly follows. But the media will present it to a typical Yoruba and IBO person as 3:1:1 which means Hausa Fulani 3 , Yoruba 1 and IBO 1.

Buhari's ineptitude is not in religious or tribal appointment biasness but administration.
Still doesn't make sense to anyone. So then if the south produces a president and there are 4 seats, he does igbo,yoruba,niger delta and the remaining one to north, hope nobody will complain, after all its administration
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by HustlePro: 7:16am On Sep 29, 2021
Rolings:


Why should we support them when its time to reap the gains of our labour in Apc....they should wait their turn in APC...
The ibos didnt support us to elect the yorubaman of our choice in 1999...they connived with northerners to impose Obj on yorubas...they shouldnt expect pity now that its their turn....we cant just throw away hard work of 16 years because of ibos that never liked us and never hid their dislike for us (during Pdp 16 years they hate us for wanting a progressive president and now they hate us for making them lose out of the power game)
BLOODY FURCKING LIAR AT THE EMBOLDEDNED.... EVEN OJukwu didn't get the support that Obj receivedfrom Igbos when he contested... shut up! Igbos have been supporting since until you guys went to court a satanic human out of desperation and I am telling you now that you wont get it... IN THAT APC. Watch how they will migrate their support to PDP that is about to give it to a Northerner and abandon you in APC if they give you the ticket there.

The goal should be A SOUTHERNER emerging, either in APC OR PDP but that is not feasible... under current arrangement... It does not look like you are aware now that APC is firmly in the hands of Northerners, do you?
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by HustlePro: 7:18am On Sep 29, 2021
Sirjamo:
I don't buy this trash.

PDP will zone to the north, and Igbo will vote for them with pleasure, forget all these initial gragra.
There are already signs that elections might not even hold in the whole of South EAST grin grin grin 2023 will be interesting to watch.
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by DMerciful(m): 7:21am On Sep 29, 2021
Bandits, bokoharam and killer herdsmen has not stopped the North from producing the president but you naively believe IPOB is the reason we're not considered politically. If you know your history you'll know that the fear of the dominating attitude of the Igbos started way before independence.

If you expect the Igbo man to beg for political power then you don't know us at all. If NigerIA insist on undermining us, Nigeria herself will not progress.

Given the political atmosphere just now, VP is ok for us, since SW wanna be greedy, they've got it coming!
Eastlink:
Cowardly talks! And how far have you made friends politically? What friends have this modern Igbo youth and elites made since 1999? The ones you destroyed by allowing fraudster speak for you or which one? To dash north the Presidency and settle for Vice all because you want a strong position for the PDP? And who says you can't demand for the Presidency and get it? Who says that if you don't get it in 2023 that you won't get in the next time? If Zik had this defeatist mindest then Ndigbo won't have risen up politically in just 10 years after the civil war. For example If Zik had not formed his NPP and slaved for Shagari's NPN, the scenario of today would have played out. Where majority Igbo leaders are redy to become PDP slaves rather focus on fronting a formidable Igbo led platform.

One thing I've learnt in this country is that in politics, there's no permanane friend but permant interest. Ndigbo have overtime failed to draw between what she wants and dancing in limbo. If I ask you what exactly is Igbo interest, you won't give me a clear answer? Ndigbo has shown overtime that it has no interest to protect. We keep dancing in a pool of distractions with the most useless agitation the world has ever known. Until Ndigbo begin to fight for her interest in Nigeria and not conpromise a lot will change.
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by Rolings: 7:22am On Sep 29, 2021
HustlePro:
BLOODY FURCKING LIAR AT THE EMBOLDEDNED.... EVEN OJukwu didn't get the support that Obj receivedfrom Igbos when he contested... shut up! Igbos have been supporting since until you guys went to court a satanic human out of desperation and I am telling you now that you wont get it... IN THAT APC. Watch how they will migrate their support to PDP that is about to give it to a Northerner and abandon you in APC if they give you the ticket there.

The goal should be A SOUTHERNER emerging, either in APC OR PDP but that is not feasible... under current arrangement... It does not look like you are aware now that APC is firmly in the hands of Northerners, do you?

What are you blabbing....what you bolded was "a yorubaman of our choice "....OBJ was never the popular choice of the yorubas , he consistently lost not just his polling unit as a sitting president but lost the entire yorubaland all through his tenure...its public knowledge

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Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by DMerciful(m): 7:23am On Sep 29, 2021
You don't know what we would do with VP position, do you?
Ovamboland:


Will Nigerians now love ibos after serving as VP? No need to change your attitude to other Nigerians?
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by walefresh3(m): 7:24am On Sep 29, 2021
dapolaw:
Simple question, didn't Rochas Okorocha contest against Yaradua for PDP ticket then?



Nobody will step down for any Igbo president, let the Igbos bring out their candidate and rally around him.

Let's forget about arguing with ourself...
I will support any southern president... That's my stand.... I just want the south east to play thier card well... The south west are really trying...we can let them have apc slot but dey must humbled and meet apc leaders in the west... Not going to the north... Firstly they should settle within themselves in the south before thinking about going to the north... But south east leaders are putting on slavery act by ignoring the west hoping if they betrayed the south.. the north will support eastern presidential ambition






Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by walefresh3(m): 7:28am On Sep 29, 2021
DMerciful:
You don't know what we would do with VP position, do you?
ur vp slop can notake u c in c... It can not influence any tangible thing... Just mediocre position like ministers... What about fundamental issues that can solve southern problem and creat improvement for the life of Nigerians...

We need fiscal federal system of government...
No northerners it's ready for such...
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by Rolings: 7:30am On Sep 29, 2021
DMerciful:
You guys are extremely greedy. Is Obj not a Yoruba man? So after doing president 8yrs, vp 8yrs, you still want to do president 8yrs, right?

Greed in its ethnic form!

We are following you ibos footsteps.....after greedily enjoying power for 16 years under pdp....(you cant blame us for pdp not considering any of you worthy of being president)....you still wanted to enjoy power under APC and since you were not given the chance you felt the only way out was to agitate for the breakdown of Nigeria because of your greed. Play your politics right just like you were telling us during 16 years of pdp.....

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Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by DMerciful(m): 7:39am On Sep 29, 2021
In you foolishness you believe Biafra started in 2015.

What about Yoruba Nation agitation? Yeye dey smell
Rolings:


We are following you ibos footsteps.....after greedily enjoying power for 16 years under pdp....(you cant blame us for pdp not considering any of you worthy of being president)....you still wanted to enjoy power under APC and since you were not given the chance you felt the only way out was to agitate for the breakdown of Nigeria because of your greed. Play your politics right just like you were telling us during 16 years of pdp.....
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by Safyqueen: 7:41am On Sep 29, 2021
Norwichsailor:

Still doesn't make sense to anyone. So then if the south produces a president and there are 4 seats, he does igbo,yoruba,niger delta and the remaining one to north, hope nobody will complain, after all its administration

Be practical please. Where do we have four appointments that Buhari gave three to the north and one to the South? There is a way it is being balanced that the media will not tell you because from their new hypothesis everyone across Niger river is a Fulani Muslim.
However, there is his personal staff or kitchen cabinet which he enjoys the prerogative of taking whom he likes that will enhance the way he wants his office vis-a-vis his administration to look like which every president do enjoys.

Buhari is the most media scrutinized president. They taught they will find corruption attached to him himself but the man has no time for material wealth.

Please economically and administration he is a complete failure and I will never talk on his behalf as regards those phenomena but others I think I will.

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Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by exseJ: 7:54am On Sep 29, 2021
The right zone for PDP is the North....the last president on the PDP platform is a Southerner....the best zone for APC is south.....then the Nigerian people will determine if its the north or south.....that the president should go!

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Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by QuotaSystem: 7:57am On Sep 29, 2021
Unfortunately all you scribbled down there doesn't explain the tactlessness and gaping lack of strategy in burning bridges and building walls where bridges should be built.

Without rotation any southern candidate can win the elections (like Abiola did and PYO will do) as long as they form alliances with the North (instead of tactlessly alienating them) which is the largest voting bloc in the country not only by states.

mandax:

Licking people’s ass is your own perception of tact and strategy.

The presidency is rotated because of the lopsided political structure of Nigeria created by northern soldiers to favor north with 19 states, but 2 old southern regions have only 17 states.
Land mass is never used as yardstick to create states in a country formed by different regions.

Creating excess number of 19 states in the northern region tilted political power too much to the northern region. Rotation is the only way a southern presidential candidate can win presidential election in Nigeria, provided north is not supporting any northern presidential candidate.

A presidential candidate must win 25% of votes in 24 states before proclaimed winner.
Do the Maths.
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by QuotaSystem: 7:58am On Sep 29, 2021
Unfortunately all you scribbled down there doesn't explain the tactlessness and gaping lack of strategy in burning bridges and building walls where bridges should be built.

Without rotation any southern candidate can win the elections (like Abiola did and PYO will do) as long as they form alliances with the North (instead of tactlessly alienating them) which is the largest and most powerful voting & political bloc in the country not only by states.

mandax:

Licking people’s ass is your own perception of tact and strategy.

The presidency is rotated because of the lopsided political structure of Nigeria created by northern soldiers to favor north with 19 states, but 2 old southern regions have only 17 states.
Land mass is never used as yardstick to create states in a country formed by different regions.

Creating excess number of 19 states in the northern region tilted political power too much to the northern region. Rotation is the only way a southern presidential candidate can win presidential election in Nigeria, provided north is not supporting any northern presidential candidate.

A presidential candidate must win 25% of votes in 24 states before proclaimed winner.
Do the Maths.
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by QuotaSystem: 8:13am On Sep 29, 2021
FakeUnity:


[s]And then we will play the game you played in 2015 by installing another abokki to your chagrin.[/s]

Hold it there.

If you had the power or capacity to install anything you would have installed yourselves tey-tey instead of wailing and blackmailing all over the place.

I laugh in imaginary powers grin

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Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by dapolaw(m): 8:15am On Sep 29, 2021
Do you know aside from 1999 election the southeasterners bastardized the the gentlemen agreement known as zoning.


In 2003, alot of Igbo candidate came out to contest against Obasanjo... Even when 2007 was zoned to the north alot of candidates including Ojukwu and Kalu contested against Yaradua.



My take is, the SW will not step down for anybody... If they so desire the presidency they should bring out their candidates, rally around him and if their candidate defeat the SW candidate in the primaries.... We will all troop out and vote for him in the general election.




Enough of monkey dey work, bamboo dey chop.





[quote author=walefresh3 post=106270169][/quote]

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Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by tnerro1(m): 8:28am On Sep 29, 2021
Echoban:


I told a friend, the southern emergence is in PDP hand.

The way PDP is playing out is out of fear of loosing 2023, but can they at least respect the loyalty of SE, if Ohaneze can force PDP to zone to SE, the worst is they ll lost out 2023 but trust me SE will never remain Politically the same , if they also know their political Onion, let them meet up and align with Tinubu, a logical plea and understanding will give Tinubu no choice than to support APC SE with Umahi on ballot, Peter Obi in PDP.

The political sphere right now is swingling to the highest bidder and SW is positioning unitedly well but still Tinubu have the final say for APC SW forget the SWAGA mantra, na scope..

As it is like this, Even if PDP seed to North, Osinbanjo in the ballot is a natural pull both SW and North, a Federal Might, PMB full bodily endorsement for support of Osinbanjo will finish Atiku PDP game..

So PDP zoning to North is still not a sure garauntee.

I surely support ohanez not to back down in their quest just that it's getting too late..


Thank you, PDP want to kill them selves in the only strong hold they have, south south and south east. I rather PDP zone it to the south and lose the 2023 elections than give it to north. If osibanjo or Tinubu gets the APC ticket, with Buhari’s surport and federal might, they will beat 100 Atikus the PDP will present.

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Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by HustlePro: 8:36am On Sep 29, 2021
Rolings:


What are you blabbing....what you bolded was "a yorubaman of our choice "....OBJ was never the popular choice of the yorubas , he consistently lost not just his polling unit as a sitting president but lost the entire yorubaland all through his tenure...its public knowledge
okay. Enjoy your APC grin grin grin
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by HustlePro: 8:37am On Sep 29, 2021
QuotaSystem:
Unfortunately all you scribbled down there doesn't explain the tactlessness and gaping lack of strategy in burning bridges and building walls where bridges should be built.

Without rotation any southern candidate can win the elections (like Abiola did and PYO will do) as long as they form alliances with the North (instead of tactlessly alienating them) which is the largest and most powerful voting & political bloc in the country not only by states.

Largest Voting Bloc that cant generate VAT or scared of such... grin grin grin grin
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by QuotaSystem: 8:43am On Sep 29, 2021
HustlePro:
Largest Voting Bloc that cant generate VAT or scared of such... grin grin grin grin

Go and argue with Kano/Kaduna VAT.

Largest voting bloc indeed.
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by oyatz(m): 10:08am On Sep 29, 2021
richidinho:


It is logical because the SW has been in govt for 16yrs now since 1999

We can all step down for a south east candidate the way we (southern candidates) stepped down for Yaradua in 2007

It is called "gentleman's agreement" just for the sake of equity and justice

I think you first need to join the race with seriousness.


The only reason the PDP is opposed to the SE ticket is because you aren't active in the presidential race.


The S/West is NOT the reason why your beloved PDP doesn't even consider you worthy enough for the ticket is because of you didn't present your candidates as formidable enough to win.


Even Gov Yahayah Bello , irrespective of his poor scores in Kogi State is making stronger moves for the presidency than Peter Obi, Orji Kalu or Okorocha.
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by richidinho(m): 10:21am On Sep 29, 2021
oyatz:


I think you first need to join the race with seriousness.


The only reason the PDP is opposed to the SE ticket is because you aren't active in the presidential race.


The S/West is NOT the reason why your beloved PDP doesn't even consider you worthy enough for the ticket is because of you didn't present your candidates as formidable enough to win.


Even Gov Yahayah Bello , irrespective of his poor scores in Kogi State is making stronger moves for the presidency than Peter Obi, Orji Kalu or Okorocha.

Yaradua didnt make any move in 2007, he was considered because of this same zoning arrangement, forget PDP, APC is the ruling party now
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by sultry69(m): 10:30am On Sep 29, 2021
seunmsg:


If we can maintain the part in bold, there won’t be a divided south. All southerners in PDP should work for the emergence of a SE candidate because of the popularity of the party in the region while all southerners in APC should ensure any region from the south gets the ticket. That way, we can have an all south contest and achieve our aim of a southern president in 2023.

Sadly however, the same folks who need the presidency the most are not showing any interest in the PDP ticket. They are standing by and watching as Northern elements in the party are doing everything to zone the ticket to the North. Not even one SE PDP leader is complaining. Not even the usual anti-Fulani Abaribe. Instead, they are on social media trying to blackmail the south west not to contest for APC ticket. How’s is that a logical strategy?
Igbos and their leaders are southern Judas .
Re: PDP Dead Forever If It Zones 2023 Presidency To North – Ohanaeze by oyatz(m): 10:54am On Sep 29, 2021
richidinho:


Yaradua didnt make any move in 2007, he was considered because of this same zoning arrangement, forget PDP, APC is the ruling party now

Between 1999-2015, Nigeria was more or less one party State with a dominant PDP and several smaller parties that couldn't win presidential elections, so political decisions taken at Wadata Plaza of the PDP only needed 'elections' to formalize it. Any presidential candidate chosen by the then PDP was bound to win.

All these changed with the formaltion of an alternative viable party, the APC which eventually defeated the PDP in 2015.

Now, each political party has to consider it's own survival/possiblility of defeat in its zoning arrangements.

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