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Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by PTH(m): 8:42pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
@ kobojunkie, you make me laugh. You sound so much like our men of Gawd who use the bible to hoodwink the gullible into parting with huge chunks of their salaries. Okay when next you go to church pls bring along with you goat hairs, badgers skin, sweet incense, kerosene, candles, brass, blue and purple clothes e.t.c. Where is the mercy seat in your own church? Does it have golden cherubs? Maybe i can come bow down there. |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Kobojunkie: 8:42pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
PTH: LMAO!!!! Aaarrrgghhh…. So let me see if I get this straight… It is better for these people to use their money to buy Mercedes benz for SELF instead but it is not ok for them to put the money together to build the biggest Auditorium where they can worship God in ?? Did you think about that one before you posted it or did you think that somehow just posting it will make your stand better?? So your family owning Mercedes benz for SELF is not love of Money but these people choosing to Build the Biggest house so they can Worship God in it is LOVE OF MONEY ?? You seriously need to check yourself cause you can not see in this case which group actually made the most sacrifice here even in my own eyes as a human being … LMAO!!! THIS IS AMAZING ~!!!!!LMAO!!!! |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by PTH(m): 8:46pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
Kobojunkie: Incredible! What point were you trying to make here? What part of my point do you require that i mention 1000x before you get it? - the problem is not whether you build a church or not or buy a car . . . the problem is where do your priorities lie? In building the world's largest auditorium with the money of a people for whom 70% of them live below the poverty line or building up human temples for the Holy Ghost? |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Iman3(m): 8:53pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
Suggesting that investing N7.7bn in a humongous auditorium is an act of selflessness is akin to claiming that Dangote's investment in a cement factory is an act of charity.Both are investments which will reap more money for the investors. In a country experiencing mind numbing poverty,a better act of selflessness will be investing in schools,hospitals,scholarships,e.t.c In Nigeria,"worshiping God" has now taken a whole new meaning. |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Kobojunkie: 8:56pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
PTH: So in your world, you can read minds enough to know the hearts of those who came together to build this auditorium?? Who are you to judge the heart of these men when you have no clue what there heart is since you are not God?? Or are you making yourself God in this case to propose to know their heart in this case?? If 70% of those who you claim live below poverty line give their money towards this building of a free heart, who are you to say it is not right for the church to be built as that is what they put their money in for?? Are you trying to claim you know better than these people who donated their own money, no matter how small it is to be used for this building ?? Another question, who in the world told you that 70% of those who donated are below poverty level?? Did they tell you this or is this you assuming you have them all figured out again?? Based on your claim there gift is not worthy of being used to fund such projects that to them is their way of pleasing there God?? MATTHEW 21 vs 1 to 6 1. And he looked up, and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury. 2 And he saw also a certain poor widow casting in thither two mites. 3 And he said, Of a truth I say unto you, that this poor widow hath cast in more than they all: 4 For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God: but she of her penury hath cast in all the living that she had. 5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said, temple Matt 24:1, Mark 13:1 6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. If Jesus did not see reason to condemn or stop her for posting her last towards the temple. Who are you to do such in this case of these?? @PTH. Are you sure you are not here already made yourself God’s brain in this?? |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Kobojunkie: 9:07pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
I-man: If I went to Nigeria now and decided to give $100,000 of my own money, infact, everything I have to a church, would you then consider it a misplaced investment even though I do it out of a clean and willing heart to my God You have to be kidding me. Dangote’s investment is his to make and there is no law against him investing his money wherever he wants to. Why then make investing money in God’s world a different case?? Please read the verses I posted above. During the time jesus walked on the earth, the jews were living in abject poverty yet Jesus encouraged their giving to the temple. He himself paid his own dues to the temple. Now if a man who is living in poverty decides to give his money even as Christ gave to the temple knowing fully well that it was not right the way those who run the temple did things, who are you or I to say it is wrong according to the religion when the man who followers of the religion model their lives after did it without grumbling?? Do we then change the rule cause of issues some pastors in Nigeria have and cause some of you can not stand the fact that others have a right to use their money as they choose?? No one has yet to accuse Dangote or any of the other rich people in the country for building lavishly but you want to now accuse the people in this case of doing it wrong cause you do not approve of their coming together to build a huge auditorium?? Do you really think this is not more about not being able to handle the fact that other people can do with their money as they so please What happened to having a fair weight?? |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Nobody: 9:08pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
who dey argue with kobojunk just dey waste im time. e go twist your words here and there, add to am for you, misinterprete you, quote bible sentence then put im own interpretation on top. . kobojunk, abeg go start your own church because the way u dey take bible sentences dey support ur ideas. you go make proper pastor. |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Kobojunkie: 9:10pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
khai_khai: Here is a doozie for you, find where in this debate, I used Bible post wrongly to support any so called claim I made @Khai_khai. Since this one is overflow bad belle I smell in your case, |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Iman3(m): 9:17pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
@Kobo You missed an important point.There is a huge difference between spending a $100,000 in a church that you don't run and spending same on a church that you do run.Spending on an auditorium is good business for the owners of the church.They have a pecuniary interest in the proposed auditorium. If they spent same amount on a church which they don't manage or have any pecuniary interest in,it is still wasteful but at least one cannot see any financial benefit accruing to them. At the core of this story is a business investment no different from Dangote's investment in cement factories.Except in the latter,such investment is not cloaked as "worshiping God". |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Kobojunkie: 9:36pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
I-man: Lord have mercy on us all. You do not get it @Iman. If I was one of those who donated my $100,000 to that $7.7 billon naira fund, do you think I did not consider the fact that the church would be the ones to build the auditorium before I did that ?? Would you rather I go to the church and ask for say a certificate to show that $100,000 investment in that church belongs to me?? Would you rather we run the churches the way we run businesses then and basically make it a for profit venture cause we can not handle the fact that I, notice not anyone else, but I, KOBOJUNKIE, am allowed to donate MY OWN HARD EARNED MONEY wherever I want it to go?? Do you think that if AID from people were handled that way since in the end, organizations do get some money in their pockets, we would all be happier?? Come on , this is not your money but the money belongs to those who own it. What happened to RESPECTING the wills of OTHERS. Or does the rule change when we can not handle what they choose to do with their money ?? Why not consider first and foremost to respect the fact that we are not necessarily MORE CLEVER than those who sit day and night in that same church and put there money to this cause for YEARS NOT a SINGLE person has been able to show that God himself is against this but people have continually tried to pick apart scripture to support their selfish opinions on this. Isn’t it ARROGANT To assume you have more information on the workings of a Church than those who themselves contribute to the building of the church and who have been doing so for years |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by ayoade117: 9:40pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
why dont we concentrate on what the auditorium will be used for. no body forced anybody to donate.God loves a cheerful giver |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Nobody: 9:45pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
Kobojunkie : there for you. before you attack, The Bible has its contradictions. . which come from being the contribution of several people. . and there are simple sentences in it people can twist to suit their own ideas. . you are one of them. . so can you now elaborate on Jesus coming to fight a battle at the end? ? will he be bringing F-16s or sword? ?. abeg tell me bros? ? |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Kobojunkie: 10:10pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
khai_khai: Let me help you there, [size=13pt] Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. [/size] [size=13pt]Revelation 19: 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.[/size] Are you going to tell me that this does not mean what it says in plain English as is the context within which it was used then?? Was John mistaken in his vision from God?? Do we then claim we know better than John in this, even though we were not there to see what He saw |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Esss(m): 10:25pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
PRAISE DA LORD!!! (of a truth my people perish for lack of wisdom) Now y'all will agree with me when i say that the government should open up a MINISTRY of RELIGIOUS AFFAIRS to look into the financial status of these churches or order the EFCC to investigate these churches. What next?? Christ embassy will build a space station on mars so that their prayers will reach GOD faster, or Winners Chapel will build a big church on the atlantic ocean or mountain of fire will open the biggest church on mount kilimanjaro. The bible said judgement will start from the house of God. Is the real purpose of our faith to show off to the world how rich and extravagant we are?? NA wah o!! Wonders shall never cease. |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Kobojunkie: 10:29pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
Esss: Am glad @Essee that you agree that we investigate the God that they worship too since he seemed to, based on your conclusion, want to Please the world here. I mean look at what is in the Bible if you are believe in the Christian God. What should we do about God in this case?? Should we get the EFCC to investigate and infact prosecute him first and foremost Kobojunkie: |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Esss(m): 10:42pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
I hope I'm correct, but that passage you just rendered was from theold testament way back before jesus died on the cross and GOD STOPPED DWELLING IN THE ARK. So are justifying the fact that a man who has over HALF of his congregation living way below minimum wage, spent the sum of 7.7billion (not thousand not million) on a house, while those who worship inside this house cannot afford transport to even get from their own houses to the house of GOD. Or hey maybe now that the building is there GOD will now perform more miracle in RCCG than he will at deeper life. Please explain the rational behind this idea. Cos the next thing is going to be a Gulfstream 5 jet or maybe the new A300 airbus. Is this the reason why christ died on the cross?? so we could build multi-billion naira structures on his blood?? In the last days, their shall be many prophets, (u prolly know the rest of it). I'm seriously waiting for ur justification. |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Kobojunkie: 10:45pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
Esss: Wait a second, if Jesus himself saw fit to Quote from the Old Testament, does that then mean that Jesus said not to use the Old Testament and that what God said and did there is no longer allowed?? I wait for how you justify the fact that the Bible says that God is the same and He never changes, or Is that not in your Bible?? @Esss |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Esss(m): 11:00pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
You seem to still be hooked on the idea that God dwells in Buildings. If you remember the story of the death of christ, (I cant seem to remember the particular verse) but after he died, the veil which seperated the holy of holies from the rest of the temple was torn apart. If you know your bible as well as i believe you do then you'll understand the significance of that incident. GOD no longer dwell in a ark, neither in 7.7billion naira buildings nor a temple built with 24karat gold. That building was not necessary, the cost was too much, in the end can you honestly tell me what it is worth?? Vanity. |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Kobojunkie: 11:04pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
Esss: You mean God changed his mind and still in the new testament allowed for the building of Temples and Churches?? Who said anything about building God a temple meaning being hooked on the idea that God still dwells in Buildings?? Are you trying to read my mind now?? I mean if Jesus himself saw fit to Worship and go preach in the elaborate temples which saw people and kings come from far away lands to marvel at it's beauty, you mean Jesus believed that God dwelled in buildings then?? Look, I believe mind your own business is appropriate in this case when it comes to what OTHER people choose to do with their money. Unless you can show me where God said you should go around trying to decide what is worth it or not FOR HIM, you just have nothing but bad belle on this to offer and trying to make it of God is not going to work. Can't you just HONESTLY STATE That You know it is not necessarily God but BASED ON YOUR THINKING, you do not feel comfortable with persons choosing to spend their money as they want in this case?? I mean that is simple!! you are allowed to have an opinion, you know. But WHEN you come in CLAIMING your opinion is OF God and TRYING To paint God into Some God of CONTRADICTIONS, Do not fault me for wanting to show you more of what the Bible says. |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Esss(m): 11:19pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
Kobojunkie: Was that before his ministry or after he had flogged the thives and miscreants out of the church. Please do me a favour and lay your points straight out on the table, EXPLAIN TO ME The justification/grounds on which Pastor E. A Adaboye spent 7.7billion Naira of other peoples money on a building?? And also tell me how this contributes positively to the betterment of the congregation of RCCG, especially those really poor and under-prevliaged members. Also tell me how and where the bible said (In the new testament)/Jesus that we should build edifices of such magnitude for him. Also Honestly tell me if you believe that this was necessary at all?? |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by d14christ: 11:35pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
pastor chris was on a laudable project da oda time,helping the poor, who lauded him.But he awaits his reward in heaven.Its suppose to b the house of God not built wt govt or yr fund.It probably can accomodate 4.5mil people, beat dt,plus do u knw hw many souls converts at each gathering.no amt is too high to pay for a soul. Thank God yr comments cant stop Gods miracle at d camp.miracles wld hv prpbly stpd and many died of incurable sickness and hoplesness. THE EARTH IS DA LORDS AND ITS FULNESS THEREOF. IF TNE HOUSE IS NOT BUILT I BET YOU IT WILL ONLY ALLEVIATE THE SUFFERINGS OF NIGERIANS. dont undastand ask GOD! |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by debosky(m): 11:41pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
@ Esss the matter is very simple - people choose to gather together to fellowship in one location, how much of their own money do you think is sufficient to ensure that when they come together, they can have a service and fellowship with each other in comfort? Do they have to sit under palm fronds for you to see that they are benefiting the 'poor and under-privileged members'? What is your PROBLEM with the 'magnitude'? If 1 million people want to gather in one place to Worship their God, why should they not spend money to make the place conducive for worship? Did Jesus place a limit on the number of people that should gather together in one place? If someone came up and said, for the size of the church built, it could have cost say 3 billion naira less, then you would have an argument, but if the figure is just taken in isolation, without any consideration of what facilities were put in place and the capacity of the auditorium, then you are simply arguing in a vacuum with NO basis and NO facts to support your view. On what basis are you saying it 'cost too much' mr Ess? Are you an architect/builder or do you have any information to point to the fact that the auditorium could have been built for less? |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by ogunseye: 12:05am On Dec 18, 2007 |
i never blamed u for wat u said that a pastor is wasting congregation tithes. if na political said he used the money to buy his official cars u will say na his share of national cake. Daddy adeboye continue the good vision God has giviing u. |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Kobojunkie: 12:17am On Dec 18, 2007 |
Esss: His kicking the merchants out of the temple has nothing to do with this please. Let us stay focused instead of trying to make moot points. He kicked those merchants out cause they were selling merchandise that was not fit in his father's house. Different from when people come together in the church to build a humongous temple for their God. Well, here is the thing , If Adeboye and his congregation, come together to use 7.7 Billion of their hard earned money( put together by everyone including himself for the sole purpose of building a large auditorium), not even the long arm of the law can touch him, infact ,he will be commended for making sure the money goes to what it was collected for in the first place. About the using it for the poor instead, I have answered that very question so many times now giving verses from different places in the Bible. In this case, I would like to refer you to these verses in the Bible , MATTHEW 26 Vs 7 to 13 7 There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat at meat. 8 But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste? disciples John 12:4 9 For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor. 10 When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me. 11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always. 12 For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it for my burial. 13 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her. Look you keep trying to play that Bible angle in vain, if you are cannot show me where Jesus said Using a COMPUTER is not SIN, please know that you have nothing against the Man but bitterness that he did not use the money according to the way you want instead. I am serious, I have made the same point over and over now. No where did God say NO to such. This is just your opinion which is based on bias and holds no water in the Religious world of Christianity. |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Esss(m): 12:43am On Dec 18, 2007 |
IT is amazing to see how "christians" have all rushed out in defense of RCCG. I for one am only here to state my own personal opinion. In these end times, we are seeing so many things that we are now forced to ask ourselves if it is worth it. Yes it is okay to justify our every move in the name of God. Hells tomorrow if RCCG decides to build a multi-billion dollar airport to park their planes, it will also be justified (In the name of GOD). Afterall Convenant Uni was built by a church and yet over half the total congregation of that church cannot afford to send their kids to a school they contributed to build, (all in the name of GOD) Now I am forced to ask, "WHAT SHALL IT PROFIT A MAN, IF HE GAINS THE WORLD (or builds a multibillion naira edifice), AND LOOSES HIS SOUL>. The most Important thing is not your comfort nor the size of your buildings. Infact the size of ur building will not save a soul. Comfort abi?? IT is better for a man to enter into the kingdom of GOD with one hand, than for him to comfortably go to hell, (just so u get me right, 'm not judging anybody, just stating the facts). Everybody is all Adeboye, Adeboye>> Is he GOD?? y'all are making him seem like wateva he says or does is the exact will of GOD. I hope and pray that it is so for your sake. The catholic church can afford to build edifices that are twice the size of RCCG in every continent, but yet havent. Such things only happen with these new generation churches were one man is the King. Just a few years back, Pastor Chris OKOTIE said the Lord told him he will become the next president of Nigeria, (U know the story), Several prophecies came about the death of OBJ in office (Now he is now in school), yet even with these happening christians are still very naive and gaullible. Now lets reason like "NORMAL" people, Do u even have any Idea how much 7.7 billion Naira is?? That money could comfortale put up a series of low-cost houses for the poor and under-previledged in RCCG, It could build one of the finest clinics in Nigeria were the sick could be treated of their sicknesses, IT could build schools in so many rural communities and contributed positively to the lives of billions of ppl for ages. It could have planted several other churches all over Nigeria and won even more souls, but rather This is really a sign that we are living in the end-times, |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Esss(m): 12:48am On Dec 18, 2007 |
Kobojunkie: SO I ask he Built a 7.7 billion naira house for wat?? Whose burial?? Please explain, |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by cutebabe: 12:53am On Dec 18, 2007 |
[/b]@Kobokunje, abeg leave matter[/b] |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by PTH(m): 1:28am On Dec 18, 2007 |
Esss: Thank you so much Esss. I used to attend winners chapel in college days with a friend and i remember us having to bag 2 offerings - 1 for normal church offering and the other for Covenant Uni building offering. Today 90% of those attending Covenant Uni are the children of the muslims, atheists and others who do not attend Winners chapel neither contributed 1 kobo to its building . . . where are the children of those who contributed their sweat "willingly" to this edifice? You guessed right, still struggling with JAMB to enter UniPort! Perhaps we need to remind some that N7.7b is much more than the national yrly budgets of some countries in Africa. Maybe we should tell them that the development of a nation and how spiritual its people is not defined by how large their auditoriums are. I hear so many crying Adeboye on this thread . . . funny that the name Jesus Christ comes second to that of their "daddy". |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by mrpataki(m): 1:46am On Dec 18, 2007 |
All across Europe, are gigantic church structures all turned into museums these days. I wonder why expend such amount of money into building a church. Lay not your treasure upon this earth where moth can eat it up. |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by dtwsola(m): 2:04am On Dec 18, 2007 |
debojyde: wikipedia article: LOL. What a silly entry. Were you the one that wrote that? Don't worry. Somebody will come and delete it soon. Encyclopedias are for factual information, not dogmatic nonsense. |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by Nobody: 2:59am On Dec 18, 2007 |
another quote from RCCG Ltd, wikipedia article: Business enterprise carry follow follow congregation. |
Re: Redeemed Church Opens World's Biggest Auditorium, Costs N7.7b by debosky(m): 6:20am On Dec 18, 2007 |
PTH: Bros D take am easy now! its 7.7 billion naira we are talking about oh! what African country are you talking about? even Swaziland or Niger would have a bigger budget than that Once again, no one has come up with anything credible as to the 'appropriate' or 'reasonable' cost to build an auditorium to meet the needs of the size of the congregation. Only on that basis can this project be said to be grandiose or a waste of money. I don't know much about the Covenant Uni issue, as that is not really a good parallel for this case - unless of course you are suggesting that there will be a fee to worship in this auditorium that some people might not be able to afford People gather every month for their Holy Ghost nights, it is only fair that these people be accommodated in a way that they can be receptive to the gospel, not wondering if the coconut from the tree they are sitting under will fall and crack their skulls or if they will have malaria by the end of the service due to incessant mosquito bites. This is not about a building making people go to heaven. . .if you did not listen to a message somewhere somehow, you wouldn't be a Christian. . .now you can say a printing press cannot make a soul go to heaven, but if bibles were not printed at some point, how would you hear the gospel? There are many things that makes a person receptive/in a place where the gospel can introduced. Some people will visit somewhere simply for the purpose of seeing what is going on, thereby having an encounter with the Lord . . .it is all part of the process. @ Pataki 'lay not your treasure' is hardly appropriate in this case. . .should they carry the money and take it to heaven with them? Thatverse simply is saying do not place undue value on things here. . .use them as you deem fit and move on. Y'all seem to be fixated on the amount spent on the auditorium because in your opinion it would be better spent. There has not been a cogent reason except 'the money is too much' or the 'building is too large' - what basis do you have to make such a statement? People need a conducive place to worship and they've done just that. . .plain and simple. PS - Why build any churches at all when there are poor people? RCCG is planting churches, building orphanages, doing a whole lot of things, how much of the details of those things do you have or know Esss? You take one piece of information and just on that decide to cast aspersions on a large group of people you are poorly informed about. I am not a member of RCCG, but I have at least seen evidence of orphanages built by them, not splashed on the pages of newspapers, but done quietly and numerous other activities. Your personal opinion may not be in agreement with this, but that is absolutely no reason to say that their action was wrong. How is building a structure for people to worship God in tantamount to 'gaining the world and losing your soul'? So getting a building for a church to meet in is equal to gaining the world eh? Note I have neither mentioned Adeboye or anything else in my post (well until now ) The main issue is being objective. there will always be alternative uses you can come up with for every dime you spend. . .why did you buy chicken to eat when the same money can buy garri to feed 6 people? |
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