Messi (barcelona) Vs Ronaldo (real Madrid) For The 2012 Ballon D'or by francdec4(m): 12:04pm On Aug 03, 2012 |
RONALDO NO DOUBT IS SUPERB BUT MESSI IS THE BEST......(MY OPINION) MY REASONS.....
MESSI....... scored 11 winners/equalizers ( 5 more than Ronaldo) in la Liga. Without his winners and equalizers Barcelona drops down to 5th place in La Liga. You could have added the big teams that he scored and assisted against : Real Madrid ( 6 games, 3 goals, 5 assists), Valencia (4 games, 5 goals, 2 assists), Malaga ( 2 games, 6 goals), Bilbao ( 3 games ( 2 goals, 1 assist), Atletico Madrid ( 2 games, 4 goals, 1 assist), Ac Millan (4 games, 3 goals, 3 assists).
Messi was also directly responsible for all 5 of Barca's goals ( 3 goals and 2 assists) in the Spanish super cup against Real. He scored and assisted both of Barca's goals in the UEFA super cup too. He scored twice in the CWC final. Messi basically scorer in assisted in all 6 competitions that he participated in.
Messi also scored 9 goals and assisted 3 in 5 games this season for Argentina. 3 of these games were World cup qualifiers in which he scored 3 and assisted 3. The 2 other games were friendlies in which he scored a hat trick for each.
Stats in La Liga
Goals:
Messi 50 (10 penalty) Ronaldo 46 (12 penalty)
Accuracy:
Messi 5.5 shots/ goal Ronaldo 6.9 shots/ goal
Individuality of goals:
Messi, 22/50 or 44% were directly assisted Ronaldo, 35/46 or 80% were directly assisted
Assists:
Messi 15 Ronaldo 12
Creativity:
Messi 56 throughballs, 92 key passes (resulting in a shot) Ps: he has 2 times more successful through balls than anyone else. Ronaldo 19 throughballs, 60 key passes (resulting in a shot)
Build up play:
Messi 176 dribbles Ronaldo 73 dribbles
Lost possession:
Messi 96 dispossessed + 61 turnovers = 157 times Ronaldo 79 dispossessed + 86 turnovers = 165 times
Also Messi broke or equalized more than 30 records:
• RECORD #1 - With 72 goals for Barca Messi set a new world record, surpassing Archie Stark (1924-25 Bethlehem Steel, USA) •
RECORD #2 - Messi became the first player to score 50 goals in a single season in La Liga, breaking CR's record of 40 goals. •
RECORD #3 - Messi (currently on 252 goals) became Barcelona's all-time topscorer, breaking Césars record of 232 goals. • RECORD #4 - Messi is Barcelona’s all time goalscorer in the CL with 51 goals • RECORD #5 - Messi is Barcelona’s all time goalscorer in the European competition with 52 goals • RECORD #6 - Messi is Barcelona’s all time goalscorer in the International competition with 56 goals •
RECORD #7 - Messi is the first player ever in the history of the Liga to score 8 hat-tricks in a single Liga season •
RECORD #8 - Messi equals Gerd Mullers record of being top scorer in the CL 4 times • RECORD #9 - Messi is the first player to be crowned top goalscorer in the Champions League for 4 consecutive seasons •
RECORD #10 - Messi has played more matches (60) this season than in any of his previous seasons with Barcelona.
• RECORD #11 - Messi registered 29 assists for Barcelona in all competitions this season, a new personal record •
RECORD #12 - Messi became the first player to have scored and assisted in 6 different official competitions in a calendar year
• RECORD #13 - Messi became the 2nd Barca player (after Pedro) to score in 6 different official competitions in a single season •
RECORD #14 - Messi scored 5 goals in the CL-match against Bayer Leverkusen (7-1), most goals by any player in a CL-match •
RECORD #15 - Messi produced 35 goals in home games this Liga season, more than any other player in La Liga's history •
RECORD #16 - Messi produced 14 hat-tricks in La Liga in his Barca career, breaking the club record held by Cesar (13)
• RECORD #17 - Messi became to first player ever to reach 100 points in the race of the European Golden Shoe (50x2)
• RECORD #18 - With 214 games Messi is Barca's most experienced foreigner in La Liga history, beating record of Cocu (205) •
RECORD #19 - Messi (24) became the youngest player ever to pass the 50-goal mark in the Champions League •
RECORD #20 - Messi became record scorer in the CL knockout stage with 26 goals. Previous record: 18 goals (Raúl/Shevchenko) • RECORD #21 – is the only player to have scored 2 CL hat-tricks in one season. • RECORD #22 - Messi scored his 3rd CL-hattrick for Barca this season, equaling the record held by Filippo Inzaghi • RECORD #23 – Messi is the only player to have scored 4 or more goals twice in one game in the knockout stage of the CL •
RECORD #24 - Messi became the 2nd Barcelona player (after Quini) to win the Pichichi trophy for topscorer in La Liga twice •
RECORD #25 - Messi became all-time topscorer in the Supercopa with 8 goals, surpassing the record of Raúl (7 goals) • RECORD #26 - Messi has scored 4 goals in the club world cup. More than anyone else. • RECORD #27 - Messi converted 10 penaties this Liga season, equal to the club record held by Ronald Koeman (1989-90) •
RECORD #28 - Messi scored in 10 consecutive Liga games this season, equalling the club record of Martín (42/43) & Ronaldo (96/97) •
RECORD #29 - Messi is the 2nd player (after H.Sánchez) in Spanish football to score 35+ goals in all comps for 4 seasons in a row •
RECORD #30 - Messi scored in 6 consecutive home games (twice) this season, a new personal record. Previous record was 5. •
RECORD #31 - Messi has equalled Samuel Eto'o's (2007-08) record of scoring in 7 consecutive away Liga games this season.
• RECORD #32 - Messi registered the fastest hat-trick in Barca's Liga history in the game vs Mallorca (5-0) this season (17 minutes) •
RECORD #33 - Messi became the 4th player in CL history (after Litmanen, Crespo & Henry) to score in 7 consecutive away games •
RECORD #34 - Messi became the first player in CL history to score 14 goals in a single season (main tournament)
• RECORD #35 - Messi (24 years old) became the youngest player ever to reach 150 goals in La Liga
• RECORD #36 - Messi became the 4th player to win 3 Ballons d'Or, after Johan Cruyff, Michel Platini and Marco van Basten.
• RECORD #37 - Messi became the 2nd player to win 3 consecutive Ballons d'Or, after Michel Platini. • RECORD #38 Messi the first player to score 82 goals for club and country in one season.
Saying that though, I still think that Ronaldo ( who also had an amazing season), Pirlo, Casillas, and Iniesta all have equal chances as Messi of winning the Ballon D'or...for now. The Ballon D'or will be decided by who has a better 2012-13 first half season.
What do you think..peeps? 1 Like |
Re: Messi (barcelona) Vs Ronaldo (real Madrid) For The 2012 Ballon D'or by francdec4(m): 12:13pm On Aug 03, 2012 |
Any contrary or affirmative view is welcome....... |
Re: Messi (barcelona) Vs Ronaldo (real Madrid) For The 2012 Ballon D'or by toluxe0075: 7:18pm On Aug 03, 2012 |
Messi will win again but the margin of vote wil not be as high as last year |
Re: Messi (barcelona) Vs Ronaldo (real Madrid) For The 2012 Ballon D'or by ddippset(m): 7:50pm On Aug 03, 2012 |
very good analysis. you've practically killed it. i will copy and paste this anywhere for anyone it may concern. |
Re: Messi (barcelona) Vs Ronaldo (real Madrid) For The 2012 Ballon D'or by ddippset(m): 7:51pm On Aug 03, 2012 |
francdec4: RONALDO NO DOUBT IS SUPERB BUT MESSI IS THE BEST......(MY OPINION) MY REASONS.....
MESSI....... scored 11 winners/equalizers ( 5 more than Ronaldo) in la Liga. Without his winners and equalizers Barcelona drops down to 5th place in La Liga. You could have added the big teams that he scored and assisted against : Real Madrid ( 6 games, 3 goals, 5 assists), Valencia (4 games, 5 goals, 2 assists), Malaga ( 2 games, 6 goals), Bilbao ( 3 games ( 2 goals, 1 assist), Atletico Madrid ( 2 games, 4 goals, 1 assist), Ac Millan (4 games, 3 goals, 3 assists).
Messi was also directly responsible for all 5 of Barca's goals ( 3 goals and 2 assists) in the Spanish super cup against Real. He scored and assisted both of Barca's goals in the UEFA super cup too. He scored twice in the CWC final. Messi basically scorer in assisted in all 6 competitions that he participated in.
Messi also scored 9 goals and assisted 3 in 5 games this season for Argentina. 3 of these games were World cup qualifiers in which he scored 3 and assisted 3. The 2 other games were friendlies in which he scored a hat trick for each.
Stats in La Liga
Goals:
Messi 50 (10 penalty) Ronaldo 46 (12 penalty)
Accuracy:
Messi 5.5 shots/ goal Ronaldo 6.9 shots/ goal
Individuality of goals:
Messi, 22/50 or 44% were directly assisted Ronaldo, 35/46 or 80% were directly assisted
Assists:
Messi 15 Ronaldo 12
Creativity:
Messi 56 throughballs, 92 key passes (resulting in a shot) Ps: he has 2 times more successful through balls than anyone else. Ronaldo 19 throughballs, 60 key passes (resulting in a shot)
Build up play:
Messi 176 dribbles Ronaldo 73 dribbles
Lost possession:
Messi 96 dispossessed + 61 turnovers = 157 times Ronaldo 79 dispossessed + 86 turnovers = 165 times
Also Messi broke or equalized more than 30 records:
• RECORD #1 - With 72 goals for Barca Messi set a new world record, surpassing Archie Stark (1924-25 Bethlehem Steel, USA) •
RECORD #2 - Messi became the first player to score 50 goals in a single season in La Liga, breaking CR's record of 40 goals. •
RECORD #3 - Messi (currently on 252 goals) became Barcelona's all-time topscorer, breaking Césars record of 232 goals. • RECORD #4 - Messi is Barcelona’s all time goalscorer in the CL with 51 goals • RECORD #5 - Messi is Barcelona’s all time goalscorer in the European competition with 52 goals • RECORD #6 - Messi is Barcelona’s all time goalscorer in the International competition with 56 goals •
RECORD #7 - Messi is the first player ever in the history of the Liga to score 8 hat-tricks in a single Liga season •
RECORD #8 - Messi equals Gerd Mullers record of being top scorer in the CL 4 times • RECORD #9 - Messi is the first player to be crowned top goalscorer in the Champions League for 4 consecutive seasons •
RECORD #10 - Messi has played more matches (60) this season than in any of his previous seasons with Barcelona.
• RECORD #11 - Messi registered 29 assists for Barcelona in all competitions this season, a new personal record •
RECORD #12 - Messi became the first player to have scored and assisted in 6 different official competitions in a calendar year
• RECORD #13 - Messi became the 2nd Barca player (after Pedro) to score in 6 different official competitions in a single season •
RECORD #14 - Messi scored 5 goals in the CL-match against Bayer Leverkusen (7-1), most goals by any player in a CL-match •
RECORD #15 - Messi produced 35 goals in home games this Liga season, more than any other player in La Liga's history •
RECORD #16 - Messi produced 14 hat-tricks in La Liga in his Barca career, breaking the club record held by Cesar (13)
• RECORD #17 - Messi became to first player ever to reach 100 points in the race of the European Golden Shoe (50x2)
• RECORD #18 - With 214 games Messi is Barca's most experienced foreigner in La Liga history, beating record of Cocu (205) •
RECORD #19 - Messi (24) became the youngest player ever to pass the 50-goal mark in the Champions League •
RECORD #20 - Messi became record scorer in the CL knockout stage with 26 goals. Previous record: 18 goals (Raúl/Shevchenko) • RECORD #21 – is the only player to have scored 2 CL hat-tricks in one season. • RECORD #22 - Messi scored his 3rd CL-hattrick for Barca this season, equaling the record held by Filippo Inzaghi • RECORD #23 – Messi is the only player to have scored 4 or more goals twice in one game in the knockout stage of the CL •
RECORD #24 - Messi became the 2nd Barcelona player (after Quini) to win the Pichichi trophy for topscorer in La Liga twice •
RECORD #25 - Messi became all-time topscorer in the Supercopa with 8 goals, surpassing the record of Raúl (7 goals) • RECORD #26 - Messi has scored 4 goals in the club world cup. More than anyone else. • RECORD #27 - Messi converted 10 penaties this Liga season, equal to the club record held by Ronald Koeman (1989-90) •
RECORD #28 - Messi scored in 10 consecutive Liga games this season, equalling the club record of Martín (42/43) & Ronaldo (96/97) •
RECORD #29 - Messi is the 2nd player (after H.Sánchez) in Spanish football to score 35+ goals in all comps for 4 seasons in a row •
RECORD #30 - Messi scored in 6 consecutive home games (twice) this season, a new personal record. Previous record was 5. •
RECORD #31 - Messi has equalled Samuel Eto'o's (2007-08) record of scoring in 7 consecutive away Liga games this season.
• RECORD #32 - Messi registered the fastest hat-trick in Barca's Liga history in the game vs Mallorca (5-0) this season (17 minutes) •
RECORD #33 - Messi became the 4th player in CL history (after Litmanen, Crespo & Henry) to score in 7 consecutive away games •
RECORD #34 - Messi became the first player in CL history to score 14 goals in a single season (main tournament)
• RECORD #35 - Messi (24 years old) became the youngest player ever to reach 150 goals in La Liga
• RECORD #36 - Messi became the 4th player to win 3 Ballons d'Or, after Johan Cruyff, Michel Platini and Marco van Basten.
• RECORD #37 - Messi became the 2nd player to win 3 consecutive Ballons d'Or, after Michel Platini. • RECORD #38 Messi the first player to score 82 goals for club and country in one season.
Saying that though, I still think that Ronaldo ( who also had an amazing season), Pirlo, Casillas, and Iniesta all have equal chances as Messi of winning the Ballon D'or...for now. The Ballon D'or will be decided by who has a better 2012-13 first half season.
What do you think..peeps? great! great!! great!!! |
Re: Messi (barcelona) Vs Ronaldo (real Madrid) For The 2012 Ballon D'or by toluxe0075: 8:43pm On Aug 03, 2012 |
francdec4: RONALDO NO DOUBT IS SUPERB BUT MESSI IS THE BEST......(MY OPINION) MY REASONS.....
MESSI....... scored 11 winners/equalizers ( 5 more than Ronaldo) in la Liga. Without his winners and equalizers Barcelona drops down to 5th place in La Liga. You could have added the big teams that he scored and assisted against : Real Madrid ( 6 games, 3 goals, 5 assists), Valencia (4 games, 5 goals, 2 assists), Malaga ( 2 games, 6 goals), Bilbao ( 3 games ( 2 goals, 1 assist), Atletico Madrid ( 2 games, 4 goals, 1 assist), Ac Millan (4 games, 3 goals, 3 assists).
Messi was also directly responsible for all 5 of Barca's goals ( 3 goals and 2 assists) in the Spanish super cup against Real. He scored and assisted both of Barca's goals in the UEFA super cup too. He scored twice in the CWC final. Messi basically scorer in assisted in all 6 competitions that he participated in.
Messi also scored 9 goals and assisted 3 in 5 games this season for Argentina. 3 of these games were World cup qualifiers in which he scored 3 and assisted 3. The 2 other games were friendlies in which he scored a hat trick for each.
Stats in La Liga
Goals:
Messi 50 (10 penalty) Ronaldo 46 (12 penalty)
Accuracy:
Messi 5.5 shots/ goal Ronaldo 6.9 shots/ goal
Individuality of goals:
Messi, 22/50 or 44% were directly assisted Ronaldo, 35/46 or 80% were directly assisted
Assists:
Messi 15 Ronaldo 12
Creativity:
Messi 56 throughballs, 92 key passes (resulting in a shot) Ps: he has 2 times more successful through balls than anyone else. Ronaldo 19 throughballs, 60 key passes (resulting in a shot)
Build up play:
Messi 176 dribbles Ronaldo 73 dribbles
Lost possession:
Messi 96 dispossessed + 61 turnovers = 157 times Ronaldo 79 dispossessed + 86 turnovers = 165 times
Also Messi broke or equalized more than 30 records:
• RECORD #1 - With 72 goals for Barca Messi set a new world record, surpassing Archie Stark (1924-25 Bethlehem Steel, USA) •
RECORD #2 - Messi became the first player to score 50 goals in a single season in La Liga, breaking CR's record of 40 goals. •
RECORD #3 - Messi (currently on 252 goals) became Barcelona's all-time topscorer, breaking Césars record of 232 goals. • RECORD #4 - Messi is Barcelona’s all time goalscorer in the CL with 51 goals • RECORD #5 - Messi is Barcelona’s all time goalscorer in the European competition with 52 goals • RECORD #6 - Messi is Barcelona’s all time goalscorer in the International competition with 56 goals •
RECORD #7 - Messi is the first player ever in the history of the Liga to score 8 hat-tricks in a single Liga season •
RECORD #8 - Messi equals Gerd Mullers record of being top scorer in the CL 4 times • RECORD #9 - Messi is the first player to be crowned top goalscorer in the Champions League for 4 consecutive seasons •
RECORD #10 - Messi has played more matches (60) this season than in any of his previous seasons with Barcelona.
• RECORD #11 - Messi registered 29 assists for Barcelona in all competitions this season, a new personal record •
RECORD #12 - Messi became the first player to have scored and assisted in 6 different official competitions in a calendar year
• RECORD #13 - Messi became the 2nd Barca player (after Pedro) to score in 6 different official competitions in a single season •
RECORD #14 - Messi scored 5 goals in the CL-match against Bayer Leverkusen (7-1), most goals by any player in a CL-match •
RECORD #15 - Messi produced 35 goals in home games this Liga season, more than any other player in La Liga's history •
RECORD #16 - Messi produced 14 hat-tricks in La Liga in his Barca career, breaking the club record held by Cesar (13)
• RECORD #17 - Messi became to first player ever to reach 100 points in the race of the European Golden Shoe (50x2)
• RECORD #18 - With 214 games Messi is Barca's most experienced foreigner in La Liga history, beating record of Cocu (205) •
RECORD #19 - Messi (24) became the youngest player ever to pass the 50-goal mark in the Champions League •
RECORD #20 - Messi became record scorer in the CL knockout stage with 26 goals. Previous record: 18 goals (Raúl/Shevchenko) • RECORD #21 – is the only player to have scored 2 CL hat-tricks in one season. • RECORD #22 - Messi scored his 3rd CL-hattrick for Barca this season, equaling the record held by Filippo Inzaghi • RECORD #23 – Messi is the only player to have scored 4 or more goals twice in one game in the knockout stage of the CL •
RECORD #24 - Messi became the 2nd Barcelona player (after Quini) to win the Pichichi trophy for topscorer in La Liga twice •
RECORD #25 - Messi became all-time topscorer in the Supercopa with 8 goals, surpassing the record of Raúl (7 goals) • RECORD #26 - Messi has scored 4 goals in the club world cup. More than anyone else. • RECORD #27 - Messi converted 10 penaties this Liga season, equal to the club record held by Ronald Koeman (1989-90) •
RECORD #28 - Messi scored in 10 consecutive Liga games this season, equalling the club record of Martín (42/43) & Ronaldo (96/97) •
RECORD #29 - Messi is the 2nd player (after H.Sánchez) in Spanish football to score 35+ goals in all comps for 4 seasons in a row •
RECORD #30 - Messi scored in 6 consecutive home games (twice) this season, a new personal record. Previous record was 5. •
RECORD #31 - Messi has equalled Samuel Eto'o's (2007-08) record of scoring in 7 consecutive away Liga games this season.
• RECORD #32 - Messi registered the fastest hat-trick in Barca's Liga history in the game vs Mallorca (5-0) this season (17 minutes) •
RECORD #33 - Messi became the 4th player in CL history (after Litmanen, Crespo & Henry) to score in 7 consecutive away games •
RECORD #34 - Messi became the first player in CL history to score 14 goals in a single season (main tournament)
• RECORD #35 - Messi (24 years old) became the youngest player ever to reach 150 goals in La Liga
• RECORD #36 - Messi became the 4th player to win 3 Ballons d'Or, after Johan Cruyff, Michel Platini and Marco van Basten.
• RECORD #37 - Messi became the 2nd player to win 3 consecutive Ballons d'Or, after Michel Platini. • RECORD #38 Messi the first player to score 82 goals for club and country in one season.
Saying that though, I still think that Ronaldo ( who also had an amazing season), Pirlo, Casillas, and Iniesta all have equal chances as Messi of winning the Ballon D'or...for now. The Ballon D'or will be decided by who has a better 2012-13 first half season.
What do you think..peeps? |