muktar mtt: Urs cos it has bein wrtin in ur bible but oda is politics

is jihad politics? My friend ur quran has said it all. 'kill the infedels'.

@ E-monkey hahahahahahahahaha see laugh. Yehhh this dude your funny, really funny. I wonder why you other guys frobel and co are trying to change his view. In my own opinion there is no need. This man is set in his ways. But let me laugh again hahahahahahahah. Don't worry since eba is good for us, when you give birth to ur child and he/she is 1day old, you can begin to feed the child eba you hear. Hohohhohhohho, this dude is hilarious. But your funny sha. Please more topics like this, you give a new meaning to the word foolishness.

E_monkey:
What about those that died without hearing about Christianity? So they are going to hell because the Holy Spirit didn't get a personal request from them for guidance?

that is for God to decide, neither u nor me can decide their fate.

frosbel:

One man died for mankind and shed his blood. I mean Christ Jesus. Through this atonement millions are saved from sin and death.

In ISLAM another Man caused and is still causing the death of countless millions of innocent human beings , because they rejected and still reject his murderous ideology. So instead of life he offers death.

You tell me , which one is more barbaric

Ok tell me why ur bishop in italy molestyn young children it's apart of ur worship haven sex wit male yong children hw barbaric give me a break dude

E_monkey:
@bold,
Holy spirit is always telling people different things, like to spend the church money buying private jets or to kill child witches in Akwa Ibom. How can we trust that same Holy spirit to guide us on how we train our children?

check d word HOLY in ya dictionary AND u wil understand. Also read this John14:17

Sorry I didn't want to mention anything like fool or foolishness in my comments! But dude haaaaa you sef check am naaaa. You would feed ur child eba @ 1day old, becos eba is good for you men, but that is foolish sha. And the bible says a fool says there is no God.

Afamdman: @ E-monkey hahahahahahahahaha see laugh. Yehhh this dude your funny, really funny. I wonder why you other guys frobel and co are trying to change his view. In my own opinion there is no need. This man is set in his ways. But let me laugh again hahahahahahahah. Don't worry since eba is good for us, when you give birth to ur child and he/she is 1day old, you can begin to feed the child eba you hear. Hohohhohhohho, this dude is hilarious. But your funny sha. Please more topics like this, you give a new meaning to the word foolishness.

The length people would go to prove a point. SMH

Imoy:
is jihad politics? My friend ur quran has said it all. 'kill the infedels'.

u r mumu dat is y u dnt knw wat d word means jihad waz conduct abt a decay at dat thr is nfin lyk christanity only a idol worshipers so d prophet come wit d islam religion nd idol woshipers find it new nd dey try to crush. It down cos muslim at dat time a few dey attack muslim killing so many muslim finaly nd almghty Allah ask us to defend islam defend our self dat wat call jihad to defend ur self agains enamys we war wit. Dem dispite we r few nd almaghty Allah give us victory we crush dem crudh thr army nd dey liv us alone. To practices islam so daz jihad, islam is all over d world now so we need nfing frm u joe.

muktar mtt: Ok tell me why ur bishop in italy molestyn young children it's apart of ur worship haven sex wit male yong children hw barbaric give me a break dude

Your Imams do it all the time. In fact marrying under age girls is common practise in ISLAM.

Besides, Saudi Arabia and Dubai are the headquarters of homosexuality. - fact !!

It is just like asking should babies eat food? Of course they should but do you give a new born meat?

@op and the bible is a compilation of scrolls and books written by different people @ different times....If u understand the basis 4 each book and chapter, u'll see reason to it. Children @ a tender age av their own bibles with stories and events broken down to the simplest and with colourful diagrams. If u as a muslim feel u need to criticize the bible, here's one question 4 u....which of the holy books has more direct or indirect passages that can spur negative acts, and which of these acts is the most grave.

E_Monkey, may i ask you what is the point to all these ?

muktar mtt: Ok tell me why ur bishop in italy molestyn young children it's apart of ur worship haven sex wit male yong children hw barbaric give me a break dude

coz a bishop commits sexual immorality or a MOG steals church money dssnt mean d bible supports it, in fact, our bible openly condemns it. Whoever eres will face the wrath of God including so-called MOGs.

muktar mtt: u r mumu dat is y u dnt knw wat d word means jihad waz conduct abt a decay at dat thr is nfin lyk christanity only a idol worshipers so d prophet come wit d islam religion nd idol woshipers find it new nd dey try to crush. It down cos muslim at dat time a few dey attack muslim killing so many muslim finaly nd almghty Allah ask us to defend islam defend our self dat wat call jihad to defend ur self agains enamys we war wit. Dem dispite we r few nd almaghty Allah give us victory we crush dem crudh thr army nd dey liv us alone. To practices islam so daz jihad, islam is all over d world now so we need nfing frm u joe.

Who told u dat christainity has nt been in existence b4 jihad? I pity ur ignorance, for ur informatn, christainity is as old as this world.
Pls stop going to islamia, it has noting gud to offer u. Get a western education, it wil sure help u.

i have a question 4 u, wot wuld u say abt muslims killing whoeva converts into anoda religion? Wot has hapnd to our freedom of religion? Did allah instruct the killing? If he (allah) truley did gave this instructions, then i must say witout doubt dat dis 'allah' is nt capable of convincing people into believing he is d allah.

muktar mtt: Kill kill kill fortunetellers shall b put to death jst b cos he tell fortune he will b kill nawa woo dis is barbaric act so all d way xtriantanity is teaching terrorism God 4nish u all,

in the world today, there is no religion dat put terrorism to practice lyk muslim, countries lyk syria, iraq, iran, libya, egypt palestine, jst to mention bt a few are all practicing terrorism. My friend, if u read abt killing fortune tellers in the bible, is in practice 2day? Have u heard or read were a group of christains killed fortune tellers?
I wonder why they call islam a religion of peace when the greatest people causing unrest in our world 2day are the muslims.

The word of God is life and no man can survive without it...it goes without saying that anyman here or not, who does not obey God, read His word and abide by them is eternally doomed... John 3:16...For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son - Jesus Christ - that whosoever believes in Him should not perish...

NO!

May his Grace be on us all...in. Jesus name Amen.

Most stupid question I have ever come across.

Is this a question or statement?

There is no other way than Gods way. It is better for the children foundation to be solid

frosbel: Yes , nothing wrong with them.

Only a pervert will read perversion into these verses.

These were scripture condemning the wicked behaviour of the Israelites while in some other cases portraying the meaning and consequence of true Love.

Quite different from factual evidence that proves that some religions sanction paedophilia in the physical life and a brothel in paradise.

are you serious? the bible should never be taught to kid,never ever!!!!
Deuteronomy 21:18-21

18 If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.

gunner4jesus: There is no other way than Gods way. It is better for the children foundation to be solid

there are better ways.

i initially did not want to comment because this is utter nonsense, its only a Muslim that will post these, i read these when i was a child and didn't see anything wrong with it, u see something wrong either because you are taking it(the verse out of context) read the whole chapter and you wont say this nonsense.
As a child i think those scriptures you quoted are too coded for them to understand, and i don't know anybody teaching children the bible that will start from that...... its not possible so please investigate or ask before you start saying nonsense
BTW i prefer my children to read these than the book where they will be told killing infidels(unbelievers) will make them go to heaven with 17 virgins waiting for them.
P.S. If you want i could post quotes from on particular book that are harmful to young children reading it

@mamiel, pls what proof do u have dat every religion has a spirit. because ur religion has one main spirit doesn't mean other religions do. U pple have to realise dat christianity is not d center of d world. Many religions are even are even older than it. Nd don't deceive urself with global records of christianity being the most dominant religion; most of those ''christians'' are atheists or traditional worshippers or plainly confused hypocrites.

E_monkey: Should it? Considering that it contains things like this:
Ezekiel 23:20
For she lusted after her lovers, whose flesh were like those of donkeys and whose spërm was like thatof horses.
Ezekiel 23:21
So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, in bruising thy brëasts by the Egyptians for the paps ofthy youth.

Mr monkey i don't know why you forgot to quote the next verse
Ezekiel23:22 "Therefore, Oholibah, this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will stir up your lovers against you, those you turned away from in disgust, and I will bring them against you from every side--
We see that Oholibah was a prostitute, something monkey didn’t mention, and that in vs. 22 Yahweh is going to punish her for her wickedness. I don’t know how it’s porn when we see how Yahweh is going to punish a prostitute.
Common

E_monkey: Songs of Solomon 8:1-3
If only you were to me like a brother, who was nursed at my mother's bosoms! Then if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me. I would lead you and bring you to my mother's house. She who has taught me. I would give you spiced wine to drink, the nectar of my pomegranates. His left arm up under my head and his right arm embraces me

Notice the word “LIKE” present here, this word meansthat Solomon’s wife is metaphorically speaking of him being like her brother THAT WAS NURSED AT HER MOTHER’S BREAST. How can she sleep with her brother when he is a baby nursing at his mother’s breast? We’ll leave that for monkey to answer for us, since he is great at concocting stories, much like Muhammad and the fairytales in the Quran

E_monkey:

Genesis 38: 8-10
....and Onan knew that the seed should not be his, and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.[/Quote]

This is very appropriate because it lets us know how to investigate adultery. By looking at this verse we see how a man can try to get away with adultery by not allowing the woman to get pregnant. However what monkey doesn’t post is the very next verse of Genesis 38:10-
What he did was wicked in the LORD'ssight; so he put him to death also .
Mr. Monkey tries to promote the idea of Porn in the Bible but he never shows scriptures like these!!! He is such a liar. Yahweh himself killed Onan, which lets us know clear and well how much he hates sin. Since monkey didn’t post Genesis 38:10 the very next verse,he must obviously enjoy this, if he doesn’t then he should’ve posted how Yahweh punished Onan.
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Judges 19: 24-29
Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now and humble ye them, and do with them what seemth good unto you, but unto this man do not so like a thing. But themen would not hearken to him so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night untill the morning and when the day began to spring, theylet her go.

GROSS WICKEDNESS IN ISRAEL
(JUDGES 19:22-30)
Sadly, here in Israel the wickedness of Sodom was repeated ( Gen. 19:4 , 5 ). Perverted men surrounded the house and beat on the door, demanding that the visiting man would be given to them so they could abuse him homosexuallyy.
This could be the most gruesome story ever related inScripture. Why is it here? The answer is here for us in Jdg 19:30 : "And it came about that all who saw it said,'Nothing like this has ever happened or been seen from the day when the sons of Israel came up from the land of Egypt to this day. Consider it, take counseland speak up." This episode illustrates how low the children of Israel could go, even in the treatment of their own people and was a call to clean up their act
NOTHING LIKE THIS HAS EVER HAPPENED OR BEEN SEEN FROM THE DAY WHEN THE SONS OF ISRAEL CAME UP FROM THE LAND OF EGYPT TO THIS DAY : The shock of seeing the girl’s dismembered body and undoubtedly hearing the story of this undeniable outrage against the law of God caused Israel to consider this the greatest atrocity of the nation’s early history. It brought a tremendous reprisal.
CONSIDER IT, TAKE COUNSEL AND SPEAK UP : The verbs which close the chapter are perfects of consequence, expressing the results which the Leviteexpected from this action .
The response to this crime is typical. Men tend to disregard and tolerate evil until it becomes so blatant that it can be tolerated no further. Then they go to theopposite extreme and feel great surprise, horror, and shock at the logical consequences of the very evils they have been complacently tolerating.

E_monkey:
Hosea 13: 16
....for she has gone against her God: they will be cut down by the sword, their little children will be broken on the racks, their women who are with childwill be cut open.
Isiah 13: 16
Their young children will be broken up before their eyes, their goods will be taken away and their wives made the property of others.

When God tells the consequences of sin (sin which anti-God and anti-Bible people love), it would be a lie to imply that this reflects poorly on God. Instead, it should be a warning to the person who attacks the Bible. Isaiah 13:16, Hosea 13:16, Psalms 137:9 in no way says that God is endorsing child abuse or killing of babies. Abortion advocates approve and promote the killing of Babies, but God does not.

Sin has consequences. These are prophecies about reality. They are prophecies that tell what is going to happen because people rebelled against their God. God gets no joy out of the judgment of the wicked, but He is a righteous God and He does judge.
Sin has consequences. Psalms 137:9 is a terrible prophecy foretelling what will happen to the daughter of Babylon and the fact that those who bash the babies, not an uncommon practice in primitive warfare, will be happy. "O daughter of Babylon - That is, Babylon itself; the city of Babylon." In that case,this reference to babies may be figurative.

E_monkey: Do we really want children picturing the horrifying depictions of gore and the descriptions of immorality in those verses when they read them?
Should they be exposed to these and similar verses by teaching them the Bible?

The bible in no way teaches immorality. These are stories of what and for every act of immorality that was committed there was a punishment. Won't you teach your child there re consequences for sinning against God? Shalom.

why not? Btw, are those the only passages you saw in the bible? Moreover these scriptures have more deeper and spiritual meanings and not just the carnal meaning you are reading to it.

frosbel: Yes , nothing wrong with them.

Only a pervert will read perversion into these verses.

These were scripture condemning the wicked behaviour of the Israelites while in some other cases portraying the meaning and consequence of true Love.

Quite different from factual evidence that proves that some religions sanction paedophilia in the physical life and a brothel in paradise.

Can God ever stop blessing u?
NO!

E_monkey:
What about those that died without hearing about Christianity? So they are going to hell because the Holy Spirit didn't get a personal request from them for guidance?

You better receive christ now that you have heared. stop deceiving your self being a muslim and planning to go to mecca, stone a blackbox and kiss al-hajar al-aswad because it's shaped like a womans' private part. Be wise

yes the Bible says train up a child in the way he/she will go and when he/she is old would not depart from it. does criptures were only condeming the evil done by the Isrealis

'and that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in christ Jesus' timothy 3:15.of course children should be taught the bible
'for as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.' ye men of little understanding, you think your ideologies and theories can supersede our God's own? You have failed woefully monkey, ur limitd thoughts cannot belittle(which is what this thread is about) the limitles thoughts of the lord.

My child is a free thinker like his Daddy and not a spiritual slave . No mixture of some delusive and irrelevant christian doctrine. I have taught him to see himself as a part of the God mind and never a slave or subject.