MOHAMED IS A PEDOPHILE, HE F**KS CHILDREN, WHAT DO U GUYS EXPECT FROM HIS FOLLOWERS, I SPIT ON HIM!!!!!!!!!!

@ Ajisafe, I did not say the worst atrocities have been by muslims. After all, the IRA used to bomb people in the name of christainity. What I said was in recent times, it has been the muslims that have gone about killing people. What does America's bombing have to do with religion. Don't you think saying I make you sick is a bit too strong a statement in response to my opinion of your religion. Its things like this that make me wonder, I'll tell you what makes me sick-the killing of innocent people in the name of islam.

AND BE REST ASSURED,, AMERICA WILL TAKE OUT IRAN, an if Bin Laden doesnt get it yet,, WE WILL TURN MEDINA AND MECCA INTO A PARKING LOT, JUST WAIT AND SEE!!!!

@ somebody,
You asked what America's bombings have to do with religion, right? The fact that America claims to be "Judeo-Christian" and now wages preemptive wars against Muslim nations, the very fact that certain conservative pundits and christian extremists and fundamentalists in America have said things like" Let's bomb them all, take their oil, and make them christians," and the fact that brainless assertions like the one above could come from small-minded christians and jews say it all. And if that's not killing in the name of christianity can you tell me what it is? If you like you can make yourself sick a thousand times for all I care.

Christian extremists and fundamentalists in America do not define Christianity, much as you would agree that Muslim extremists and fundamentalists in any part of the several Islamic countries do not define Islam. Your attempts at trumping up the Islamic stereotype of the West is not helping issues, because you've often used that as a launching pad for your invectives at Christianity as a whole.

So, all the killings in recent times by the Muslim extremists and fundamentalists have been done in what name? In what name have the Palestinians been calling for the annihilation of Israel?

belloti:

I got to tell you here that what you guys are doing is total nonsense, irrational, harsh and disturbing. I thought i was getting some understanding from 4get me but look who we got here. Stupid and myopic people. How can u abuse a holy prophet of Islam like that? How dare you?. I am really angry and i got to let you know.

We are muslims, we have a faith and we respect others freedom to have their faith too. We believe in one God, We believe there should be peace in the world. If you choose to worship a lizard or a human being, its none of our business. If There is global Justice in this world no one need to sacrifice himself to make a point. No one need to die.

Right now, what i want to say is that enough of provocative remarks against any religion and no one should make any myopic and shortsighted analysis of my faith or any faith for that matter. Because Its my Faith and I take it Personal.

DId mohamed sleep with a nine year old or no? answer the question u slowpoke, oh wait, they did not tell u in mecca huh?, The have a name in the west for people like him. They are called pedophiles, I dont have any regards for ur so called "prophet", I have every right not to, just like u do not have to respect Jesus in anyway, every day, muslims are exposing themselves and their vicsousness, tell me who is bombing mosques and women and children in Iraq, muslim on muslim violence, its like when they do not have any jews or christians to kill they turn on themselves, dont worry the world is becoming aware of what they are up against and sooner or later they will have to do what they have to do

Now, now this is turning into something else.

Applause, my dear friend belloti. You would observe we had a mutual debate and came to an amicable headway at the end of the day. Like you, when someone insults my God and Lord, I take that personally.

You still have my respects, no doubt about that. But I will not tolerate any cross-fires where my faith is vilified with outlandish invectives.

Peace to you.

Zahymaka:

Now, now this is turning into something else.

Oh well, now it's getting hot, isn't it? I respectfully emailed the moderator about this because I saw it coming miles ahead. What did we get? Since Ajisafe thought he had the sweet ticket of a lone ranger on the Forum to be insensitive to other people's feelings, see what's happening now? I don't lend any support to stuff like this, but if the rules for posting here had been respected, it would not have descended to this level, wouldn't you agree?

Peace.


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@belloti,
My hugs to you (if you'd accept them). I'm not angry at you at all - and I'm as angry as you are at what's going on. On behalf of myself, I apologise to every single Muslim and Christian who's as angry at the ill-feelings expressed at the respected faiths we're all seeking to understand.

Blessings.

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@emmie4j,
Perhaps I understand where you're coming from - you might be reacting to provocation after long patience and forebearance. May I appeal that you refrain and forebear for now. Not everyone is the same as the chap you're reacting to. Please, hhmm?

THATS THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM WITH U GUYS, U WANT ME TO BE CENSURED FOR SPEAKING MY MIND AND THE FACT, THATS WHAT U GUYS DO WITH EVERYBODY, THATS WHY PEOPLE DONT LIKE U GUYS, BECAUSE IT IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN UR OWN TERMS, UNTIL U EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT BUSINESS AND ADULT(MOHAMED) HAVE SLEEPING WITH A NINE YEAR OLD,, OR WHETHER OR NOT THAT MAKES HIM A PEDOPHILE,, PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME TO RESPECT HIM. i HAVE A NINE YEAR OLD SISTER, AND IT DISGUSTS ME THAT SOMEONE WILL VIOLATE HER THAT WAY, DID MOHAMED SLEEP WITH A NINE YEAR OLD OR NOT?, DOES THAT MAKE HIM A PEDOPHILE OR NOT?,,,CHILD RAPIST OR NOT?,,,,,STATUTORY RAPE OR NOT?,,,,,PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION, ONE LOVE, LOL

@emmie4j,

Please refrain. Good sense is not displayed by provocative statements.

I RESPECT NWOKE/MODERATOR,,,,HE HAS DONE A FINE JOB WITH THE FORUM,,,,,BUT HOW CAN U ASK THAT SOMEONE BE CENSURED FOR ASKING A QUESTION?, YEAH, U ARE RIGHT,,,,I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY MOHAMED "THE PROPHET" SLEPT WITH A NINE YEAR OLD!!!!! AND WHY PEDOPHILICITY IS RAMPANT IN THE MIDDLEEAST,

4get_me:

@emmie4j,

Please refrain. Good sense is not displayed by provocative statements.

WHATEVER THAT MEANS, U STILL HAVENT ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS,,,, OK LETS TAKE IT ONE STEP AT A TIME, BECAUSE I AM TRYING TO GET TO THE ROOTS OF THIS "WONDERFUL RELIGION" OF URS
1) DID OR DID NOT MOHAMED SLEEP WITH A NINE YEAR OLD "WIFE"
2) IF HE DID, DOSENT THAT MAKE HIM A PEDOPHILE? A CHILD MOLESTER? STATUTORY RAPE?
3) WOULD U CONDONE NIGERIAN MEN SLEEPING AND "MARRYING" NINE YEAR OLDS?
4) WOULD U GIVE UR NINE YEAR OLD SISTER TO BE RAPED BY A GROWN MAN?

pLEASE LETS HAVE A CIVILIZED CONVERSATION AND U CAN START BY ANSWERING ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE QUESTIONS
, ONE LOVE

Left to me, I don't really think this kid, emmie4j, is sane. To be honest with you, the kid claims to be from the West and, yet, continues to ask himself a redundant question and writes like a primary school kid. I think someone needs to call his parents to give him his medication. He may just be an autistic patient -- only God knows.

4get_me:

@emmie4j,

Please refrain. Good sense is not displayed by provocative statements.

OK, FAIR ENOUGH,,,, U STILL HAVENT ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS,,,, OK LETS TAKE IT ONE STEP AT A TIME, BECAUSE I AM TRYING TO GET TO THE ROOTS OF THIS "WONDERFUL RELIGION" OF URS
1) DID OR DID NOT MOHAMED SLEEP WITH A NINE YEAR OLD "WIFE"
2) IF HE DID, DOSENT THAT MAKE HIM A PEDOPHILE? A CHILD MOLESTER? STATUTORY RAPE?
3) WOULD U CONDONE NIGERIAN MEN SLEEPING AND "MARRYING" NINE YEAR OLDS?
4) WOULD U GIVE UR NINE YEAR OLD SISTER TO BE RAPED BY A GROWN MAN?

pLEASE LETS HAVE A CIVILIZED CONVERSATION AND U CAN START BY ANSWERING ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE QUESTIONS
, ONE LOVE

@emmie4j,

If your questions were for me, here are my answers:

1) you don't know me half-way from Adam, so don't keep making a fool of yourself by insinuating that I'm a Muslim.

2) intelligent Christians and Muslims don't trade insults, and that's why I asked that you refrained.

3) if accusing a Prophet of pedophilia helps you get into heaven, wait for the surprise on Judgement Day - for only God is Judge.

4) if a word is enough for the wise, let's see where you belong.

Blessings.

4get_me:

@emmie4j,

If your questions were for me, here are my answers:

1) you don't know me half-way from Adam, so don't keep making a fool of yourself by insinuating that I'm a Muslim.

2) intelligent Christians and Muslims don't trade insults, and that's why I asked that you refrained.

3) if accusing a Prophet of pedophilia helps you get into heaven, wait for the surprise on Judgement Day - for only God is Judge.

4) if a word is enough for the wise, let's see where you belong.

Blessings.

Disoriented?, maybe, please answer the question or shut up!!!!, what do u call some one that sleeps with a nine old?,, and please dont deny ur Identity,,,,it hasnt come to that

[b]For the sake of others like you and my friends like 4get me, i just want to answer your question. we don't all have to behave like fools

1. Holy Prophet Muhammad(SAW) led an examplary life. He did certain things to set a precedence as to what is allowed and what is not. When he married the 9 year old, he was making a point that marriage can be contracted as early as that age but nothing lower. However, there wont be any sexual liasons till the bride reach a matured age. It was suppose to be an option for some followers of Islam that may have a culture of early marriages. this is to make the religion attractive to them. its probably a strategy for winning those kind of people. Holy Prophet was never known to have slept with her at such an early age.

2. He was a remarkable man. he was never a peodophile.

3. In the history of islam in Nigeria, no marriage was ever contracted officially at that age.

4. Islam has a strong respect for womanhood, regardless of some wrong interpretations.

Having said all these, i would like to stress here that, in the issue of faith or any issue that we know little about, the best way to go about it is to seek for clarification. Where matters affect belief, the way to go about it is to say i don't believe in what you believe but not to say what you believe in is wrong. Lets respect our freedom of choices.[/b]

ok, we are getting somewhere here, what age was that girl when she got pregnant, wasnt she still underage?, dosent that still make mohamed a pedophile, and please don't give me that contractual bullcrap,,,,yeah mohamed took her home and stared at her all night,,,,,please!!!!,,,,and yeah he did set an example for u guys alright, thats why those men in the north and the middle east are sleeping with underage girls calling them "wives", again would u let your underage sister sleep with a grown man and say, oh yeah she was just Hot, they are just a bunch of pedophiles in my dictionary, thats all


its probably a strategy for winning those kind of people. Holy Prophet was never known to have slept with her at such an early age.
yeah,,,,what a nice way to make relighion attractive,,,,,sleep with their underage daughters and force them tto convert,,,,what a warrior

i think i was wrong to have answered you.

In fact, I thought that I have seen it all. This one is extra-ordinary. The kid is indeed crazy.

yeah, cos u did not answer the question which is what do u call people that sleep with underage girls?

Call your dad -- let me talk to him. You've passed your bedtime. C'mon, go call him.

i watched a documentary on the national history on sunday on the Da Vinci code the whole documentary went against the new testament in the bible. it claimed that Jesus got Mary Magdalene pregnant, when he died she moved to Egypt, had a baby and a whole lot of other things that did not go with the sayings of the Bible. I have not read the book and i am not really interested in it. my Muslim friend that read it told me that it is just fiction but the truth of the matter is fiction, assumption, or whatever, the Christians are being calm about it. The movie is coming out very soon and the Christian s are not meeting up or planning to fight but if it were the other way, the whole Muslim community will rise up and most probably burn all the cinemas that will show it the day it is released and attack anyone who goes to watch the movie. there was even a show in London last year called Jerry springer and the opera, it mocked Christianity and all it stands for , the whole London Christian community were not happy with it because it was shown on BBC all the churches did was get to gether and protest outside the BBC office not offensive placards were carried, the demonstration was very peaceful.

and on the Sharia law. what i know is that the poor or poverty stricken people allow themselves to be used as a scape goats by the law makers and the rich people. in the north, all sorts of sexual morality can be found and since the sharia laws have come into existence in some parts of the north, i have not heard of any rich or influential person getting in trouble with these law. it is always the poor people get their limbs cut off or are sentenced to death by stoning. are you trying to tell me that no rich man or their children has committed adultery or any other crimes

i must say that i am disgusted to find out that prophet Mohamed married a 9 year old girl!!!!! what on earth is that there is no excuse for such behaviour! all countries frown at it and it is an offence punishable by law. were there not older girls or why did he not just wait for her to get older 7 years is not too long is it? so are you trying to tell me that it is ok for a man of 30 to marry a girl of 9?? i must tell you it must be an arranged marriage and also a forced one. a girl of 9 still wants to play with her friends, play with toys and just generally have fun unlimited, she is not developed mentally not to talk of physically and i can bet my life on it she had not even stared puberty by then. girls of those days did not develop at the rate at which the ones now developed so i can imagine how small and flat chested she must have been then. how would she have been able to Carry out her wifely duties? so when did he start to sleep with her then

Those people who do not see anything wrong with what your prophet did will you allow a man of 30 marry your 9 year old sister or daughter since your prophet did it all in the name of Islam please i would like to get responses!!! AJISHAFE AND CO,
have you people heard of V.V.F?? thats what happens to an underage girl who gets pregnant. and the northern part of Nigeria has the highest number of people suffering from it, when these mentally disturbed perverts marry these under age girls and get them pregnant and when the girls give birth they have complications because they are not physically developed to give birth(in other words they are not women but girls) for this condition to be corrected there is a need for surgery , these men simply dump their wives in the hospital and forget about them and look for their next young victim.

I dont know why this thread exist in the first place. If you have read the book in question that is Da Vinci Code, you would agree. The book attacks no religion nor is it based on any religion, so I dont see any basis for saying such a thing like the Muslims you should learn rubbish, even though i forgot to mention it's stereotypical nature.

Da Vinci Code is a fictional historical book based on some fragments of the past that has no direct affiliation with any religious teachings. Please note that Jesus is not only respected by Christians, Muslims respect Jesus the same way they respect Muhammad.

I can't wait for the movie to hit the theatres. I'm too impatient to read the book, and extra impatient to wait for it to hit the "red box." To me, it's just a movie--it won't change anything about my savior in my eyes. Should i feel bad that i'm going to pay close to $10 to watch it?

@Logical- "According to the novel, Leonardo was a member of an ancient secret society called the "Priory of Sion" dedicated to preserving the "truths" that Jesus designated Mary Magdalene as His successor, that His message was about the celebration of the "sacred feminine," that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married and had children and that the Holy Grail of legend and lore is really Mary Magdalene, the "sacred feminine," the vessel who carried Jesus' children."

That goes against all what christains believe.

Aha !! So does the muslim belief? But that is historical facts? As I said no direct attacks on any religion in question.

Logical:

Da Vinci Code is a fictional historical book based on some fragments of the past that has no direct affiliation with any religious teachings. Please note that Jesus is not only respected by Christians, Muslims respect Jesus the same way they respect Muhammad.

I guess you haven't read the book and are just voicing your opinions on hear-says. The Da Vinci Code is a direct attack on Christianity in as much as it focuses on Christianity, the Church, and the Biblical naratives of Jesus Christ.

What would Muslims have done if someone had written a fictional piece depicting Mohammed to have been other than the Qur'an and Hadith say of him, tells the whole world reading such a "fiction" that all that people have been taught in Islam are lies? That is what you've failed to see, and excusing this lame cosmetic that "it is only a fictional historical book." Listen to yourself! If something is fiction, where's the history? And if it's history, where's the fiction? Please, don't let those sad fellows like Dan Brown blow smoke in your face.