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Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by da091(m): 1:17pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Fellow Nairalanders, Let me start by saying though am a muslim but then in the Holy Quran no where whatsoever as stated kill non-muslims as stated or perceived by some nairalanders. However,no genue muslim will be happy seeing,hearing or even experiencing this devilish act by this sect.And moreso,I never believe some christains have such view about my religion let alone me as a person, what is this world really turning to? Hmmmm Am in a mind dilema as this post had opened opinions of christains concerning WE MUSLIM...... It really disheartening O ALLAH FORGIVE US ALL |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by Nobody: 1:20pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
QueenAw: These people act based on their understanding of Islam and what Islam expects of them. If their action doesn't represent Islam, then they are insulting Islam. Nothing else give Islam a bad name as much as Islamic terrorism. If muslims who know these people are doing nothing out of cowardice, then you can expect the perception of Islam as a violent religion to continue. Unarmed muslims find it easy to kill over a movie in the US or cartoons in Denmark, but can't do anything about the biggest insults on ther religion in their own backyard, abi? Abeg u all are the same jor. |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by texbaba1: 1:22pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
I appreciate your efforts in writing this letter to us, we already know that not all adherents of islam are boko haram inclined. What worries us is the insisant re-occurence without your imams or religious leaders saying anything about it or doing anyhing to stop it. so first of all that gives u away, as in it makes us believe that u all approve of it as silence constitutes acceptance. Moreso, the problem with islam has is indoctrination, and mis interpretation of certain verses in the qran to suit their wicked acts. from what uve said, u tlkd about unjustified killing been wrong. does that mean in islam, killing is allowed if u can justify it? then it boils down to justification and i tell u justifying killing is the easiest thing. i think what you in islam shld be preaching is that killing is bad, whether justifiable or not...you cant give life, why take another mans' life because u can justify it? If islam blieves in judgment, then u shld leave judgment to God. As a christian, from what i know about islam, it is a religion of peace. but if some people are rubbishing the image of the religion, then islamic authorities should do something drastic about it, not aiding nd abeting it by keeping quiet. Lastly as a word of advice; if u want to islamise a people thers nothing wrong with it but how u go about it is what matters. go and evangelise, preach the good things they stand to gain by by becoming a muslim, let them know how their life would be changed positively by been a muslim nd then let them decide genuinely, as in make it interesting and not by way of jihad, killing innocent people in the name of islamising. |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by texbaba1: 1:22pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
I appreciate your efforts in writing this letter to us, we already know that not all adherents of islam are boko haram inclined. What worries us is the insisant re-occurence without your imams or religious leaders saying anything about it or doing anyhing to stop it. so first of all that gives u away, as in it makes us believe that u all approve of it as silence constitutes acceptance. Moreso, the problem with islam has is indoctrination, and mis interpretation of certain verses in the qran to suit their wicked acts. from what uve said, u tlkd about unjustified killing been wrong. does that mean in islam, killing is allowed if u can justify it? then it boils down to justification and i tell u justifying killing is the easiest thing. i think what you in islam shld be preaching is that killing is bad, whether justifiable or not...you cant give life, why take another mans' life because u can justify it? If islam blieves in judgment, then u shld leave judgment to God. As a christian, from what i know about islam, it is a religion of peace. but if some people are rubbishing the image of the religion, then islamic authorities should do something drastic about it, not aiding nd abeting it by keeping quiet. Lastly as a word of advice; if u want to islamise a people thers nothing wrong with it but how u go about it is what matters. go and evangelise, preach the good things they stand to gain by by becoming a muslim, let them know how their life would be changed positively by been a muslim nd then let them decide genuinely, as in make it interesting and not by way of jihad, killing innocent people in the name of islamising. |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by Circle360: 1:29pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
@ stagger and co. He had laid down the facts wich are true to u, so blieve it or not its ur own cup of akamu. Go on quating the Bible about am sure another Pastor will tag u wrng for thats nt the meaning of such a vas'. The major problems are #1 media and press: wich are d source of all d info abt wats happng around the world they make u blv what they want u 2 blv bt logcl reasn shld gv u and insight that d fact thats fighting is going on in an islamic state and pple are been killd do nt mean that such a fight are religous, politics and economic facts also do trigger fight #2 you have faild to reasn why is it that islmic world are fighting with the western world? partly because u are blind by the prest and ur selfishnes wich the west cntrol. And if u claimd that xtian are killd by muslims ofcouse even i cn gve u such incednt wher xtians atack muslims bt muslim. U dnt lyk the truth then go 2 hell. |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by seunajia: 1:34pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Snippets from the last sermon of the prophet Muhammed (SAW): O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have right over you. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. You know that every Muslim is the brother of another Muslim. Remember, one day you will appear before Allah and answer for your deeds. So beware, do not astray from the path of righteousness after I am gone. All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Even as the fingers of the two hands are equal, so are human beings equal to one another. No one has any right, nor any preference to claim over another. You are brothers Kindness is a mark of faith, and whoever has not kindness, has not faith. 1 Like |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by Nobody: 1:44pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
the person that post dis should go to hell, i dnt care, so far una quaran tell you guys to fight against people dat doesnt believe in una quaran, u pple are muderers....muslim pple are muderers....our bible tells us 2 pray and preach to unbelievers nd nt killing them.. |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by Nobody: 1:46pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
the person that post dis should go to hell, i dnt care, so far una quaran tell you guys to fight against people dat doesnt believe in una quaran, u pple are muderers.... |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by cinammon(f): 1:56pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
to be very candid,i hope the OP reads dis comment....i am a christian and sincerely not biased and religiously minded when it has to do wit livin peacefully with human beings lyk me(not mindin colour,tongue,race or religion) i am from the northern part of this country and because of the kind of work my dad does,we hav happened to live in most of the northern states...am sayin all dis so u wud knw dat i know fully well wot am abt to say...majority of my frends are muslims and also being beautiful hasnt really bin easy cos i tend to have tonnes of muslim guys around (both frends nd dos ones u hav to jus smile to in d name of bein polite).muslims especially up north believe that because of their religion,dey r superior beings generally (i can stand on dis statement any day,anytime)an average muslim can b ur very gud frend buh wen it coms to matters of religion dey dont jus want to feel all humans r equal...it is not boko haram dat started dis killings so u dnt feel islams is tagged because of BH. Dis killins hav bin dated way back..in d north,wen ders any little disagreement btw a muslim nd christian once all dos muslim guys gather,dey dont evn want to hear ur side of d story because to dem u r a 'KAFIRI' or 'ARNA' (minin fugitive,vagabond,or a bastard)dey jus feel because u r nt lyk dem den u r @fault and lord hav mercy if u dnt get out der fast,u'l hav a story to tell....it is a common and generally accepted principle to dem....d funny thing is a bike man hittin ur car from d bac nd dentin it,yet in a snap dey hav gathered and u will pay from heaven to earth....dey hav dis pressumed hatred 4 hu eva..my mum used to warn us wen we wer growin up to b careful of our associations cos in d event of any heat up,dos ppl u play wit will b d 1st to point out dat dey hav som christian frends (no trust).well since dey bliv dat in doin dat dey will b highly rewarded in heaven,wot do u expect..(brain washed)..there are lots of exceptions to this tho buh it is owed to civilisation and literacy..cos d educated ones and exposed ones dnt hav such mind sets nd evn wen dey do,dey dont show it...i had a muslim bf once nd it was a gud relationship buh i was very young nd dis guy was a bit older...afta 2yrs i discovered he had anoda gf hu is a muslim..he was hurt dat i found out buh his frends and siblings hu hav all bin so sweet to me started influencin him..as bad as commentin on fbuk nd twita,tellin dier broda not to waste his tym hurtin 4 a cmon gurl hu is not a muslim,dt deyr in support of d oda gurl because is is a muslim nd dat if he rili luvs me dat much,dey wud allow him mk me his 2nd wyf nd convert me...(i laff)i still got my dignity intact nd wudnt let som brainwashed fool talk abt me lyk dat...i addressesd dem properly and moved on...well dats how things go der...i can go on and on buh i dnt wana bore u guys...so OP u might b d free willed muslim buh dat dosnt min dat it is a general phenomenon.... |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by freecocoa(f): 2:05pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Come all you people saying rubbish about only a few muslims giving the religion a bad name should STFU cos y'all don't know what you are saying, which few? Just who told you that the evil ones amongst them are few? Bia Afam4ever akpasukwana'm iwe, kedu ife na eme gi sef? Nna take kwa time o. If anything sef, the good ones are few, since y'all claim there are just a few bad eggs spoiling una name, why can't the good ones stop them? I thought there's strength in number, how come very few evil people has been reigning and shining over the good ones for ages? You people should respect yourselves and say the truth for once, islam is violent and condones it so stop trying to put up appearances ojare. Afam e kwuo rubbish ebea ozo, walai I go e-slap you. 1 Like |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by cinammon(f): 2:06pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
da091: Fellow Nairalanders, i should guess u havnt bin reading ur quran very well....i'm a christian tho buh cos i grew up in d north, i hav a knowledge of d quran....to me,d whole buk is contradictory (i humbly stand to b corrected) no offences (we r entitled to our opinions) buh i'l giv u references...... In Surah 73:10 God tells Mohammad to be patient with his opponents, "Be patient with what they say, and part from them courteously". While in Surah 2:191 God orders him to kill his opponents, "kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you out." In Surah 2:256 God tells Mohammad not to impose Islam by force, "There is no compulsion in religion", Then again in verse 193 He tells his messenger to kill whoever rejects Islam, "Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's". In Surah 29:45 God tells Mohammad to speak nicely to people of the Book (Christians and Jews), "Argue with people of the book, other than evil doers, only by means of what are better! and say, we believe in what has been sent down to us and sent down to you. Our God is the same as your God, and we are surrendered to Him." But in Surah 9:29 Allah tells him to fight the people of the Book, "Fight those who do not believe in God and the last day... and fight People of the Book, who do not accept the religion of truth (Islam) until they pay tribute by hand, being inferior". NOW WIT ALL THESE,D GUD MUSLIMS HAV SCRIPTURAL BACKINGS AND THE BAD MUSLIMS ALSO HAV SCRIPTURES TO BAC DEM UP.... SAD!!! SO I GES U SHUD B READIN UR HOLY BUK MORE OFTEN (GOOGLE IS FREE)AND ASK GOD TO GIV U UNDASTANDIN |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by Limaoscar: 2:08pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Pray tell, what percentage of muslims kill? 10%? 40? 80? Or is it 100%? You are completely out-of-line, neighbor!! How does coming from Aluu or Rivers state translate or equate to being a Xtian. It's like saying there was a crime committed in Sokoto and you instinctively think it has to be some Moslem....wrong, absolutely wrong!! it is this sort myopic and Insularly skweed thinking that leads some moslems up North to Kill their Southern Compatriot at every opportunity among many other misleading reasons! |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by Nobody: 2:14pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
papa giddy: let that part in d quran that instruct muslims to kill christains be remove first then we can talk,coz any muslim is a potential killer ! there is no such verse and if you claim otherwise then show me and i wil prove you wrong |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by baysol: 2:16pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
If you really feel so bad and remorseful about the destruction of your fellow muslims, we have heard you. But then do what is right convert to christianity as Christ love you and will take you as his disciple no matter what only if you are truely repentant. Different from convert to a religion willy nilly ehn? |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by cinammon(f): 2:22pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
plappville: i officially love u 4 dis little buh sweet write up |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by cinammon(f): 2:24pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Discordia: In Surah 73:10 God tells Mohammad to be patient with his opponents, "Be patient with what they say, and part from them courteously". While in Surah 2:191 God orders him to kill his opponents, "kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you out." In Surah 2:256 God tells Mohammad not to impose Islam by force, "There is no compulsion in religion", Then again in verse 193 He tells his messenger to kill whoever rejects Islam, "Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's". In Surah 29:45 God tells Mohammad to speak nicely to people of the Book (Christians and Jews), "Argue with people of the book, other than evil doers, only by means of what are better! and say, we believe in what has been sent down to us and sent down to you. Our God is the same as your God, and we are surrendered to Him." But in Surah 9:29 Allah tells him to fight the people of the Book, "Fight those who do not believe in God and the last day... and fight People of the Book, who do not accept the religion of truth (Islam) until they pay tribute by hand, being inferior". I CANT WAIT FOR YOU TO PROVE DIS CONTRADICTION WRONG.....URS SINCERELY 1 Like |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by Nobody: 2:28pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
cinammon: maybe you never heard the quran was revealed from time to time eh? Different verses revealed at different places and time for different conditions , get it ? So nothing contradict anything |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by theplanmaker: 2:28pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Op u wud b correct if dis violenc was limited 2 a few group muslims, but u nd i knw d truth, anywere dere r muslims dere tend 2 b violence and intolerance, i mean check d middle east, north africa nd northern nigeria, u ll agree with me dat dis is not just a small group, but a large percentage of d entire muslim population. It leads 2 logical conclusion dat islam is violent!! |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by victme1(m): 2:32pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Basic: In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. May peace be upon whosoever follows guidance.Hmm Bros! i feel you! and i belived that this Bkh are not real muslims. they are following their Leaders instruction which are politically mtivate to cause havoc in the country. but please if you can get to them, pls tell them this. To desist from fighthing under the umbrella of Islam. |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by Navi(m): 2:32pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
musKeeto:. SMH for somebody like u...it's only a fool dat says in his heart dat there is no God. God ll visit BH soon...watch out |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by Nobody: 2:32pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
freecocoa: Come all you people saying rubbish about only a few muslims giving the religion a bad name should STFU cos y'all don't know what you are saying, which few? Just who told you that the evil ones amongst them are few? Bia Afam4ever akpasukwana'm iwe, kedu ife na eme gi sef? Nna take kwa time o. chukwu gozie nwa oma...amaromu udiri ogwu oke afam ññuru were na akoyeri ife ndia afu ona akoyeri |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by seunajia: 2:35pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Limaoscar: This is the general fallacy most of us commit without knowing-- nay, with deceit! So we all can see how it feels. I wanted to rewrite that part but thought against it. Not every Aluu indigene is a Christian, not every Muslim is a terrorist. Some people in Aluu were misguided, some muslims are misguided. |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by Afam4eva(m): 2:36pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
freecocoa: Come all you people saying rubbish about only a few muslims giving the religion a bad name should STFU cos y'all don't know what you are saying, which few? Just who told you that the evil ones amongst them are few? Bia Afam4ever akpasukwana'm iwe, kedu ife na eme gi sef? Nna take kwa time o.I hope you won't go on the offensive when someone opens a thread and say that girls are goldiggers. The problem i have with people is that they don't treat other people the way they want to be treated. Don't the goose and gander deserve an equal treatment? If we agree with you that Islam is violent, what are you now going to say about the Aluu villagers who maimed those boys to death. Are they muslims too. The only difference is that those villagers didn't claim to be representing any God but what they did is evil anyways and most if not all of them are Christians. 3 Likes |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by seunajia: 2:58pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
afam4eva: If only we all can think like this. 2 Likes |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by Ndeewonu: 3:01pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
@OP Pls, What is "JIHAD?" |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by rushj(m): 3:23pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
stagger: OP,. We (muslims) can only do our worse when we are pushed to the world. Do u wanna try that? u are not an exception since u don't want to reason with the OP bcoz ur brain is blunt. Don't worry it shall be ur turn nxt time. Your FAF are dead and gone. mumu |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by sunlouis: 3:26pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Observation: Final note We Muslims are disheartened by the activities of these radicals, and on behalf of every Muslim in this country with a sound, unadulterated Islamic ideology, I state that we are proud of our religion, and we totally and openly disapprove of the acts of BH and their sponsors. PLEASE WHAT IS BH? IS IT BENSON & HEDGES? I PRESUME U KNOW HOW DEADLY UR MUSLIM BROTHERS ARE AND THATS WHY U TOO SCARED TO DENOUNCE THEM PUBLICLY AND INSTEAD U ARE SCHEMING. NAME ONE CHRISTIAN GROUP THAT GOES AROUND KILLING ALL IN THE NAME OF BEING MISSINDOCTRINATED OR FOR THE SAKE OF BEING FANATICAL. U MADE CERTAIN FACTS THAT ARE REALLY MORE IMPORTANT FOR THE AVERAGE MUSLIM, MOST ESPECIALLY THOSE IN THE NORTHERN PART OF NAIJA! B PLAIN WITH UR JUDGEMENT! |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by EzePromoe: 3:27pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
@OP, Tell it to the birds
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Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by passionate88: 3:41pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
dahonestboss: Are the muslims in the middle east different fromt the muslims in Nigeria ? let us assume boko haram is a Nigerian thing, what about the killings of none muslim in other part of the world ?leave d guy make him dey system dey type rubbish... During the post election violence dm change am 2 religious, when Israel attack palestine, dm change am.. Them go say islam na peace say make u take koran read bt if u ask 4 d same koran to read them go kill u say no infidel is allowed to touch it.. I dnt believe this dude, like stagger said.. He should talk to his people. |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by passionate88: 3:42pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Eze Promoe: @OP,James Hadley Chase... |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by doche1: 3:52pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Basic: i hate all muslim n does practicin dz religion,imagin d harm u ppl hv been causin in d name of religion,bcause ur ppl neva succeded in becumin d president,imagin lives of ppl dat u kill in jos,kaduna,kano,bauchi,maiduguri,lokoja.u ppl n ur so call religion wil neva hv peace God wil send down his plegue on u 4 killin innocent souls.u js wanna say all diz 2 cover 4 d killin u ppl hav bein doin,u ppl wil kip sufferin in pains n hardship.who among u have bein in d forfront 2 denounc bokoharam n their activitis?only God wil punish u. |
Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by deekseen(m): 3:57pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
'True Muslims' (like the OP) will never openly, directly address BOKO HARAM in a letter. They know that the fear of BOKO HARAM is the beginning of wisdom, to them. |
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