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Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by SewaGRITS(f): 1:04am On Oct 19, 2012 |
As it's already been said, but still bears repeating for all who are yet to marry, a discussion about financial and other responsibilities is a must BEFORE walking down the aisle. As this is where you are nonetheless please don't let money come between you, particularly if you have children. A lot of ppl can come on here and call your wife lazy or whatever but she is your wife and at the end of the day few other ppl matter. I don't think there is any hard and fast rule...just what fits for ya'll. My husband and I both agree the the role of the husband/father is to provide, preside and protect while the mother/wife is primarily responsible for the nuture of their children. Note the key word is primarily because sometimes adaptation is necessary. I stayed at home when the children were young. I kept the home, homeschooled our toddlers/preschoolers, and furthered my education (I have both a Master's and Education Specialist degree). When the children were older, I worked but hubby still was the main provider. My money went to family projects, savings or family vacays, etc. When hubby was out of work, my money was the income we relied on till he found work again at which time my income was again secondary. If we have more children we have agreed that I would go back to being a stay at home mom (yes, even in this economy...all things are possible with judicious planning). So you see we adapted to need despite our initial belief. Maybe you and your wife can come to a consensus that you have a core belief but there is wiggle room to adapt. Good luck. Remember that no amount of success can compensate for failure in the home. 1 Like |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by kobikwelu(m): 1:39am On Oct 19, 2012 |
personally, a man should be responsible for major expenses in the house....major renovations, major car parts change, feeding for the month..while a woman should be responsible for the petty stuff, such as clothes for the kids, minor home assessories etc...that does not mean the lady should not contribute when more is needed of her... |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by Nobody: 3:55am On Oct 19, 2012 |
kobikwelu: personally, a man should be responsible for major expenses in the house....major renovations, major car parts change, feeding for the month..while a woman should be responsible for the petty stuff, such as clothes for the kids, minor home assessories etc...that does not mean the lady should not contribute when more is needed of her... |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by spyder880(m): 5:48am On Oct 19, 2012 |
Pardon my dissenting voice but I think a responsible man should look at the marriage with an eye of total responsibility for ALL financial expenses in the house, very hard but possible, while the wife takes care of every other thing that does not involve bringing in money. The responsible man should note that this is his God assigned obligation and should not shy away from it. He also has a responsibility to respect his wife and kids, care for them and provide ALL succor for their upkeep. Buy the clothes, the surprise gifts, the eat outs and any other thing necessary for the family happiness. He should build a house for them, even if its a manual intensive mud hut that he can afford to build, or rent a house and pay the bills. He should pay the school fees of all kids and even train the wife in school if she has educational deficiencies. (if he cannot, he should have as few kids as he can cater for) The man should feed his children and wife, cmon, what respect will I have if I cannot ensure my wife and children are well fed and happy? I will work till I drop just to make them happy, if the worse comes to worse, even barrow pushing is not excluded from what I will do to make sure I live up to my manly obligations which I stated for myself in my teens. The man should ensure security, plan ahead for everyone and make sure he is a role model for which the wife and children are proud of. If you think the marriage is about the man alone, you are wrong. The woman has very heavy burdens placed on them by nature, so should not be bothered with making money for the husband. Pregnancy, child care, house care, etc. The woman should be strong and active to make the house work perfectly, providing a clean surrounding in the home. She should clean, wash, scrub and arrange all items in the house. She should cook, store, preserve and act as accountant general of the home, spending domestic budgets with utmost wisdom, arranging all purchases of food and other household items while the husband will have more time to make the money. All the points I mentioned for the woman notwithstanding, she should provide one vital ingredient in the home, PEACE. A ready smile, a listening ear and a pillar of support for the husband. Make sure he longs to return home everyday, make sure you prepare and launch him out to go out next day for his business/work with a smile on his face, recharge his emotional battery, give him the confidence he needs to believe in himself continually. I cannot bear the thought of my wife working under someone else, who in this world can shout on my wife or make her work harder than I will want for her, for how much sef? How about those her soft smooth hands getting hurt while she is trying to make money, how much sef? I swore to care for her, why should she care for me. Sometimes the men are lazy, (not all men) and I have seen cases where men marry for the money which the wife can make. Men should start from their teen years to prepare for marriage, save enough because this is one expensive venture that will last forever. Build your house even before you marry, make plans for a happy home as long as 10 years before marriage. Marry a wife to treasure, not to work for you. An exception to this is where the women has itchy fingers to work, well, she can work but make sure it is not for the money, just for the fun of getting up and going to work to mix with others as she is not in prison. 8 Likes |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by eljp(m): 5:59am On Oct 19, 2012 |
sunky-show: If she doesn't accept ur plan as the head of the family when the Bible says wife shld submit to their husband then stop her from working for some years, so she can learn her lesson sitting at home as full time house wife.... |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by Wislet(f): 8:23am On Oct 19, 2012 |
spyder880: Pardon my dissenting voice but I think a responsible man should look at the marriage with an eye of total responsibility for ALL financial expenses in the house, very hard but possible, while the wife takes care of every other thing that does not involve bringing in money. The responsible man should note that this is his God assigned obligation and should not shy away from it.that is why i like u. A real man there. Wish we'll have more sensible men like you. A woman shouldn't work because she HAS TO help the man with finances. How could she have that burden with all the other roles nature naturally bestows on her? Her contributing financially to the home should be something she does out of pleasure...something she consciously decides to do because she wants to....because she wants to make use of her degree, And NOT because she is OBLIGATED to help you the man(who should be the provider for your home!). May laziness not overtake the men of this generation. And someone said 50/50. 50/50? Then what is your role as a 'man?'. The man that said this(if he meant that) should cover his face for shame . 1 Like |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by Wislet(f): 8:43am On Oct 19, 2012 |
In case the roles of the couple in the home has been forgotten: - The man provides for the family financially, and protects his home from harm. -The woman takes care of the home front...keeps the house clean(inside and out), bears the kids, trains them well, cooks for her family, provides moral guidance to her children, maintains PEACE and harmony in the home, is always available for and a best friend to her husband. . After all that is achieved, if the woman decides to help her husband financially(probably because his income couldn't provide very well for them), then that is good. She would be doing it because she wants to...because she sees the need to. And NOT because she MUST do it. . Young men, grow up. Let go of laziness and the thought that your wife OWES you financial contributions. BE the man of the house as you should. Earn your wife's respect. Foisting your role upon her will only get you in a situation where you come on nairaland to complain,''My wife does not respect me. Help''. Let it be something she loves/wants to do. And u'd be surprised what a woman can do for a man who loves and understands her. 1 Like |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by Nobody: 8:44am On Oct 19, 2012 |
dayokanu: If I as the man pick all the bill in the house then what is the womans stake in the house? It's funny how you think a woman's 'stake' can ONLY be fnancial in nature . . . 2 Likes |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by Nobody: 8:46am On Oct 19, 2012 |
spyder880: Pardon my dissenting voice but I think a responsible man should look at the marriage with an eye of total responsibility for ALL financial expenses in the house, very hard but possible, while the wife takes care of every other thing that does not involve bringing in money. The responsible man should note that this is his God assigned obligation and should not shy away from it. This is how a REAL man thinks . . . . *note to dayo* |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by WhyAWhy(m): 11:31am On Oct 19, 2012 |
^^^ really? She doesn't make babies all her life She's not a stay at home mum- we got house help Things have moved on. Realistically a lot of men don't even make enough to solely pack all the family responsibilities. Not many people have a dangote or adenuga as a hubby. Typically there is the average baba taju or the average civil servant 1 Like |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by captalex(m): 12:19pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
Wislet: that is why i like u. A real man there. All he said is true but there is nothing more attractive, than a woman who wakes up in the morning and has something going on for herself.Be it her Office Job or Running her own business. She might not make alot of money but the fact that she wants to contribute make her sexy. 1 Like |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by Nobody: 12:28pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
spyder880: Pardon my dissenting voice but I think a responsible man should look at the marriage with an eye of total responsibility for ALL financial expenses in the house, very hard but possible, while the wife takes care of every other thing that does not involve bringing in money. The responsible man should note that this is his God assigned obligation and should not shy away from it. God bless you sir!!!!!!!!!! Its reassuring to know that there are men that still think like you in this generation. You can imagine how traumatised I was to read from our "men" who wish to assert their rights as men without putting their money where their mouths are... I contribute significantly to our finances in my home (and in fact, take up some major projects myself) and it is all voluntary. My husband respects that and will never force me to contribute if I dont want to... thats a real man, who understands his responsibility as the provider for the home. @poster, dude, please read your Bible. You will understand that it is your duty to fund your home 100% (failure to do so makes you worse than an slowpoke). Your wife may contribute if she wants to, but it is not mandatory for her to! What is 70:30 sef? Is that how you share her own house chores in that manner? Abeg, grow some muscles and provide for your family irrespective of whether your wife ontributes to it or not. |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by kuntash: 12:29pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
@ poster, I think your wife is right to an extent, ordinarily or rather naturally, the man takes responsibility of the family, for me, I dont support the fact that women should not work and earn money, but just incase they dont, what do you do? I wouldnt want to believe you married her because she was working.... in a setting of a truly dedicated couple, tackling responsibilities in the form of expenses should fall squarely on the MAN... and I strongly believe a man would earn more respect in that way and ofcourse experience a reasonable,voluntary financial assistance from the wife. Latching on your wife's income 10% , 20 or 30% no be am at all. plan you expenses without her contributions, whatever she adds, so be it. but dont wait for her, I beg... UNLESS ITS EXCEPTIONALLY NECESSARY (grounds of ILL-HEALTH, JOS LOSS, and its like) it might amaze you to know some responsibilities being shouldered by Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh, or Okonjo Iwaela's hubby etc.. so gents, love your spouse naturally, and expect nothing from them... cos whether you like it or not, na dem get house o! |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by coldgate(f): 1:42pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
WELL SAID. |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by Nobody: 1:56pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
WhyAWhy: ^^^ really? I agree with you. Realistically, men need financial support from their wives. But I want it to be understood that it's a 'support', not a responsibility! |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by Nobody: 2:13pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
Na lie,scores go be 50-50 abi na only me make pikin,no bi two of us.......abeg spare me that big grammar of financial inequality. |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by Shinatu: 3:33pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
Na the two of you carry the pickin and na the two of you deliver and nurse the baby abi? and the pickin name na wetin? no be your name? or that one too be 50/50? I beg go and work hard to take care of that your lovely family ^^^^^^^ |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by armyofone(m): 3:46pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
May your lady be the woman in the book of proverbs. Bless you. spyder880: Pardon my dissenting voice but I think a responsible man should look at the marriage with an eye of total responsibility for ALL financial expenses in the house, very hard but possible, while the wife takes care of every other thing that does not involve bringing in money. The responsible man should note that this is his God assigned obligation and should not shy away from it. |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by dayokanu(m): 4:56pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
Ujujoan: And how did you deduce the "only" part. In a family both parties should be involved in verything from childrearing, to homekeeping to budgetting/finances, to everything |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by dayokanu(m): 4:59pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
sexywifey: @poster, dude, please read your Bible. You will understand that it is your duty to fund your home 100% (failure to do so makes you worse than an slowpoke). Your wife may contribute if she wants to, but it is not mandatory for her to! What is 70:30 sef? Is that how you share her own house chores in that manner? Abeg, grow some muscles and provide for your family irrespective of whether your wife ontributes to it or not. Below is what the bible says. Proverbs 31. Proverbs 31:10-31 |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by dayokanu(m): 5:01pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
Ujujoan: Realistically no adult has a responsibility to feed another able bodied adult. We can only "support". Even when there are cases of divorce. The court mandates that the children who are mostly minor be taken care of as a priority and not the individual adults in the relationship. except when its joint income made from joint contribution 1 Like |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by Nobody: 7:38pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
spyder880: Pardon my dissenting voice but I think a responsible man should look at the marriage with an eye of total responsibility for ALL financial expenses in the house, very hard but possible, while the wife takes care of every other thing that does not involve bringing in money. The responsible man should note that this is his God assigned obligation and should not shy away from it. Well, we have heard people like you talk as if you hold the world in your hands. Do you know what it means to have a family and planning for the future? People like you just talk based on traditional beliefs without real understanding about life. I have seen man guys who probably had a good job/business tell their wives to stop working only for them to loose their sources of income one way or another. Loosing your source of income could be through retrenchment, business losses, sickness or even death. What happens to the wife and kids in that case. Young people be wise, I am talking to you from the perspective of an investment adviser. Plan your future wisely, both spouses should generate income if possible. I used the phrase "generate income". It helps alot. You do not know tomorrow, you can be doing so well today and you think you have it all figured out, but you cannot predict the next ten years unless you are alredy a billionaire. Its not about ego or being macho, it is about being wise. Both man and wife need to know how to make and manage money. It should not be only the man's responsibility. What if something happens to him? And something can be anything. An acquintance of mine died receptly. He was about 40 years old and the sole breadwinner of the family. Someone made a comment that his children are economic orphans. I initially corrected the person that the kids have a mum. But the person said, the wife died in an economic sense 10 years ago when she stopped working. Think about that! 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by vanitty: 9:35pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
It is nice to know what one is negotiating to buy before buying. This is one of the reason why some men are not very forthcoming with their salary, when you have a woman that thinks just because she is now your missus, she does not need do naff all. There are certain things as a lady one does not stoop to do, with the greatest respect, your husband is not your father. Unfortunately a lady that has this kind of deep rooted mentality cannot be reasoned with reasonably! There is a saying that says "when will a goat be strong enough to kill a leopard" you simply cannot win "respectfully" with this woman UNLESS she is willing to listen, you will just talk, talk, talk and if you force her to contribute, she will lose respect for you and will start comparing you to this friend husband etc. If one cannot find what one wants, one should learn to do without it meaning don't talk anymore, you have done enough talking now. Don't spend a penny outside your 70%. You have decided to contribute 70%, what the 70% can take care off, so be it. Don't argue, Just do your bit with your 70%. If it means major luxury adjustment from the "family", start adjusting! Live according to your circumstances. You are also someone's child, you can only do so much. Poster,don't resent your wife o. Remember different people, different ways. This is what we do is taboo in another. |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by ronkebp(f): 10:38pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
If a woman loves her family dearly, she would be willing to contribute whatever she has for the financial growth of that family, irrespective of the rule, 50-50, 80-20 or whatever. And same goes for the man, if he truely loves his home, wife and children, he will do whatever and spend whatever, irrespective of the ratio involved. It is when love is not enough that we start to see loopholes and dents. |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by dayokanu(m): 10:41pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
ronkebp: If a woman loves her family dearly, she would be willing to contribute whatever she has for the financial growth of that family, irrespective of the rule, 50-50, 80-20 or whatever. And same goes for the man, if he truely loves his home, wife and children, he will do whatever and spend whatever, irrespective of the ratio involved. It is when love is not enough that we start to see loopholes and dents. I know you are saying this to seduce me. So i no gree. Wetin you bring come from Naija? Or you think say I no go knw say you travel? Iya Mukaila said she saw you at Bodija |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by ronkebp(f): 10:47pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
dayokanu: Lol, na real iya Mukaila, will bring iru-kpete and eja-kika, u don't have any problem... |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by cooker: 10:47pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
your wife should be able to contribute a little amount if she has source of income at least 20 per cent, if she can not contribute any amount at all to financial welfare of the family and she has source of income then she is unreasonable. |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by spyder880(m): 11:58pm On Oct 19, 2012 |
Nashville: The world in my hands? Naa, nobody can claim to know tomorrow, even the next minute is unpredictable. But one thing is certain in life, that running a family will always be expensive, but with advance preparation of your finances and emotions, you can make it seem easy. Your inference that I talk with only traditional beliefs and no real understanding of life is very wrong. What I say today is what I was telling friends when I was 19, today I am in my late 30s, married for 9 years of flawless relationship devoid of misunderstandings. 4 lovely kids and a wife that respects me. I respect her also. A real man should be aware that things can change, and without warning sef, but your job is to make sure you are ready for the change. As an investment adviser, what do you really tell your clients? Have you ever heard of stocks of shares in good companies bought in your wife and kids names, cheap land investments in their name now that things are rosy, don't you tell your clients about residual income from rents that outlives the man that invested in them? The will should take care your family inherit your possessions and not suffer when you are gone. Death? it will come when it will, but only a stupid man will not make plans about what happens after he is gone. The only point I like in your write up is about both couple learning how to manage money, very necessary for every woman. Some women are experts with funds, those that are always ready to spend should please think of investing first. 2 Likes |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by Nimshi: 12:47am On Oct 20, 2012 |
A woman should contribute, no matter how litte she earns relative to the man. If you earn more than your husband does, then you should contribute more. And know this as a woman: never, never accept not to work if youære able to work. The first step to amost all forms of abuse is the family is for the woman to stop working; you must not forget that in Nigeria, the man almost always owns everything; you must not make yourself a doormat. . |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by SewaGRITS(f): 3:36am On Oct 20, 2012 |
Just because a woman doesn't work outside the home doesn't mean that she is dead economically. Also, it doesn't mean she is a doormat, or could become a doormat subject to abuse. Abuse is not correlated strictly to a woman not working out of the home. A better indicator on whether a woman will be able to provide in the event of death of her husband or divorcing is education. As a stay at home mom (sahm) she should try to get advanced degrees if possible or some sort of skill training/certifications at the least. Most of my friends are sahms, very educated, and have loving husbands that value their wives work within the home, which, by the way is priceless, but since we live in a society that places value mainly on the things that generate income, you can Google these numbers: a sahm puts in 97 hours per week and would make $113,000 a year with duties combining those of a CEO, nurse, teacher, janitor, chef, chauffeur, psychologist, and mediator just to name a few. 1 Like |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by spyder880(m): 5:49am On Oct 20, 2012 |
I have a real life example why I think some men are just lazy or just don't understand their roles in marriage. I have this tenant that has been married for about 23 years with 6 kids. The family is helplessly poor and only manages to pay the rent for the one room they have been living for 22 years. The wife hawks stuff, bread, fruits and vegetable with some of the kids to support her cobbler husband who makes very little income. This man has been dissatisfied of late and has been pushing all the children that are in their teens to start contributing to the family financially. He says they are now of age and should help sell and hawk wares on the road side to make more money for the family to survive. This has led to countless shouting matches between the man and the wife/kids. The last case we heard was when a man approached this man and promised to start helping the first daughter financially to save the situation. This man agreed and called the pretty daughter of 20 years and told her to follow the man. The daughter refused and he nearly threw her out. This man did not even have money to register this girl for WASC, not to talk of taking her to a tertiary institution and has been pushing them to make money for him. Whenever I see men trying to push away their obligations to their wife, and even to the kids, it makes me mad. It happens everywhere and this mentality should stop. This is what I will like to call "cycle of poverty" 1 Like |
Re: I Need Answers From Married People Only! by Nobody: 10:17am On Oct 20, 2012 |
spyder880: I tell you the truth, there is no law anywhere that says only the man should spend money for the family. The family is one indivisible unit and each situation is different. I will give you two examples. My brother for a long time used to be the sole provider for his family. He had a great job while his wife was not working, however, he always longed to start his own business. When his wife finally got a stable job, he decided to leave his job and start a business. The first two years of starting the business was very tough. They had to rely on his savings and the salary his wife was earning for the family upkeep. Now, the business is so successful that the wife has also resigned her job and joined the business. My question to you is this. Would you say my brother was lazy for the 2-3 years they had to partly rely on his wife's salary for family upkeep? I'm sure you will say so. The only reason he could start his business was because his wife was not working and they now had some back up. Another example. My best friend is an AGM in a bank while his wife is a very senior manager in Accenture (a top consulting firm). His wife has an MBA from one of the top schools in the US and they both earn about =N=20 million each. So, you want him to tell his wife that her money is only for make-up abi or that her money is not needed. How do they now pay for three children going to Corona or maintain their townhouse in Lekki or their three cars or vacation abroad. You think the money the man earns is enough for all that? Bros, I don't know whether you think every woman is a village girl you can just order to stay at home while you give her change. My own wife finished with a second class upper in Law from Unilag. Go ask any Akokite how difficult that is. So you want me to tell her to sit at home abi. I have two young daughters myself and I spend alot of money paying for school their fees. When they start dating and some dude tells them he doesn't want them to work, I will make sure they don't marry such people. What rubbish. Please quit this achaic mentality! 5 Likes |
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