Katsumoto:

1. When Akintola was ousted by the AG, Adegbenro was elected by AG and not Awo. Try and do some reading.

2. Yes, the world knows Igbos to be very altruistic. But then again, what can one expect from a man who expects an opposition party to formulate and implement policy.

3. I did not state that Zik had to lose a relative to prove his selflessness; my point is that since he didn't lose a relative, it was easy for him to forge ahead with one Nigeria.

Its unfortunate that there is no pill to help develop a logical mind.

ACM10:
Who finally won in the power tussle between Akintola and Awolowo?
Who was consigned to the dust bin of Yoruba politics?
Who finally became bitter?

You must have been riding roughshod on your low IQ cheering audience with your warped logic. It's unfortunate that I'm no such type.

Katsumoto:

Check out logic. Awo was consigned to dustbin of Yoruba politics
Yet Igbos can not go five seconds without mentioning his name
Yet GOwon sprung him from jail and made him finance minister
Yet Igbos were expecting him to take his Yoruba people on secession to support their adventure
Yet NPN had to rely on a very loose interpretation of 12 two thirds to defeat him in 1979.

ACM

Why must you continue to embarass yourself?

rafhell: david mark fall my hand big time with such statement.
the north were actually the fathers of ethnic and tribal politics.
i wish we can all just split up and go our ways.
smh

Eziachi:
Assuming your are right that Igbo people were dying for one Nigeria when you didn't, shouldn't reality, event and fact support your theory?
1. The person who sacrificed 3 million life to avoid being inside one Nigeria against the person that wasted millions of life and even used starvation of women and children, which one supports your theory.
2. The ideologist of keeping Nigeria one is a task that must be pursued and the one who opposes it-which one was you and the Igbos?
3. Many years after the war, who has a group who specific agenda is to leave one Nigeria in MASSOB and what is your stance as we speak?
4. Who has benefited economically more under one Nigeria against what it brought at the table?
Who has kept the theory that Igbo man should never allowed to rule Nigeria, just for one simple reason- he will dissolve one Nigeria.
Irrespective of our biased attachment to issues- sometimes fact should over-ride our very sense ethnic, tribal loyalty.

Katsumoto: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



'The total value of each series printed, based on the numbers extrapolated above, was £50 million for the first issue and £148.5 million for the second issue, making a total of £198.5 million. Many of these notes were not delivered to Biafra, but it is not known how many were successfully conveyed to their destination and how many remained in storage at their point of production. However, at the end of the conflict it was estimated that between £115 and £140 million in Biafran currency was in circulation, indicating that a large proportion of the currency was delivered into circulation. While this amount may seem large, it must be remembered that Biafra had a population of 14 million, and the amount in circulation would equate to £10 per person at the most optimistic estimate.'

http://www.pjsymes.com.au/articles/biafra.htm

When I educated you on the other thread, you ran away claiming you were coming back. You didn't come back, yet you surfaced on this thread asking for the same data again. Are you so think in the head?


If there was an exchange mechanism for the exchange of Biafran notes for the Nigerian notes, what were you expecting the Nigerian government to do with the Biafran notes once the exchange was completed?

It has estimated that between there was between 115 and 140 million pounds in Biafran currency at the end of the war and there were approximately 14 million Biafrans giving a value of 10 pounds per Biafran. Yet, each depositor was given 20 pounds. Assuming that kids did not have accounts, there would have been approximately 7/8 million depositors leading to a total sum of 140/160 million spent by Awo.

The Nigerian government also allowed old Nigerian notes and Biafran notes to be exchange for Nigerian currency until the end of 1968 and each individual depositor was given a maximum of 30 pounds and 500 pounds for organizations.

Lastly, when questioned about acceptability and exchange rates, Pius Okigbo stated publicly that both factors were irrelevant since Biafran notes were meant to be spent within Biafra. If the Biafran economic adviser stated publicly that they were unconcerned about exchange rate and international acceptance, then why moan about receiving an amount and not being able to exchange their notes for Nigerian notes?

ACM10:
Beyond your careless assertion, can you
show me an evidence with any economic
indices that 20 pounds was higher than
the total value of Biafran currency.
Sentiment aside! I expect you to furnish
me with raw economic indices. I get
bored by long grammar.

Deep Sight:
Hi Katzumotz.

I would only remind you that many of the points you raise regarding Zik can equally be said of Awo.

Please try to be unbiased: I enjoy reading you cos u are usually very objective.


Don't try to paint one a saint, and the other a demon.

Be fair to both. When you see circumstances that qualify the actions of one, please also see circumstances that qualify the actions of the other.

It would be stretching things to typify Zik as some greedy monster only intent on power, and claim that Awo was not similarly obsessed.

Cheers.

Katsumoto: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ACM is being flogged at history and now wants to turn to Economics.

I am not even going to waste my time trying to teach cos I know irs a waste of my time.

First go back to your high school teachers and ask why a party in opposition can't implement policy.

You were very busy.

naijababe: In 1934, some elite Nigerians, Dr. Kofo Abayomi, H.O. Daniel, Ernest Ikoli, Samuel Musanya, (later Oba), J.C Vaughan, among others, formed the Lagos Youth Movement, later Nigerian Youth Movement, NYM, (1936) and by 1938, it was so popular that it was beating Herbert McCaulay’s NNDP to second position in the Council elections of the Lagos ownship and the Nigerian legislative Council. Came February 1941, when its member, Dr. Abayomi, had to resign for further studies abroad. This created an opening for a fresh election in which Ikoli and Akinsanya expressed interest to become the flag bearer of the Movement. Obafemi Awolowo’s group solidly supported Ikoli, an Ijaw; while Azikwe’s gave its backing to Akinsanya, an Ijebu Yoruba like Awolowo. Not much of tribal politics in those good old days even as the Movement was largely Yoruba dominated. But not when Ikoli won the flag. Zik and Akinsanya charged that they lost because their candidate was Ijebu not minding that so was also Awolowo. They walked out along with some Igbo members. According to G.O. Olusanya, non-Igbo members became suspicious. "They reasoned that if the Igbos continued the policy of closing ranks on issues while the others remained divided, it was only a question of time before the Igbo dominated the rest." (Groundwork of Nigerian History - Obaro Ikime). "Azikwe’s defection virtually destroyed the multi-tribal character of the Movement" (Nigerian Political Parties- R. L Sklar) .


Enough said!!!!

Andre Uweh:
Excellent piece from Naijababe. I have always enjoyed reading G.O Olusanya's work. In that same book edited by Obaro Ikime, Olusanya settled the issue at hand here by agreeing that Awo started tribal politics in Nigeria.

ekt_bear: Is this the same ACM10 who failed utterly in the previous thread? The guy who ran away from it after being beaten mercilessly?

ACM10: Shouldn't you feel ashamed to be opening your mouth again?

wtf is this

ekt_bear: Is this the same ACM10 who failed utterly in the previous thread? The guy who ran away from it after being beaten mercilessly?

ACM10: Shouldn't you feel ashamed to be opening your mouth again?

wtf is this

Andre Uweh:
Boy, this your post is totally irrelevant to the thread. In this thread, you can tackle him on what he has argued upon. Why bring up silly issues from another thread.
Have you started following a nairalander here sheepishly?.

Deep Sight:
Hi Katzumotz.

I would only remind you that many of the points you raise regarding Zik can equally be said of Awo.

Please try to be unbiased: I enjoy reading you cos u are usually very objective.

Don't try to paint one a saint, and the other a demon.

Be fair to both. When you see circumstances that qualify the actions of one, please also see circumstances that qualify the actions of the other.

It would be stretching things to typify Zik as some greedy monster only intent on power, and claim that Awo was not similarly obsessed.

Cheers.

Katsumoto:

Check out logic. Awo was consigned to dustbin of Yoruba politics
Yet Igbos can not go five seconds without mentioning his name
Yet GOwon sprung him from jail and made him finance minister
Yet Igbos were expecting him to take his Yoruba people on secession to support their adventure
Yet NPN had to rely on a very loose interpretation of 12 two thirds to defeat him in 1979.

ACM

Why must you continue to embarass yourself?

tunnytox:

Katsumoto baba
Anytime I see you on threads like this I know you'll teach these people some lessons and you never disapoint.

dayokanu:

Let me help you add more to it.

Post Awolowos imprisonment He was made Minister of Finance, Contested 2 Presidential election and won in all SW states, His party dominated the Politics of his region in the 2nd republic

And till tomorrow his name still wins election in the SW 25yrs after his death a feat neither Zik nor Ojuku who lost in his own street cant match

ekt_bear: The post is highly relevant. He was beaten mercilessly on this thread (https://www.nairaland.com/1068292/own-words-how-awolowo-defended/2), and ran away.

Now he is resurfacing on a new thread, recycling his same shoddy logic and poor reasoning that have already been debunked.

So, my questions are as follows:
1) Why is Kats wasting his time talking to this guy
2) Why is this guy wasting the time of others by regurgitating flawed reasoning? What useful purpose does that serve?
3) Shouldn't any reasonable person be ashamed by ACM10's cowardly and dishonest behavior?

Katsumoto:

Tunnytox

I hope you are a lady; I don't like blokes blowing kisses at me.

naijababe: In 1934, some elite Nigerians, Dr. Kofo Abayomi, H.O. Daniel, Ernest Ikoli, Samuel Musanya, (later Oba), J.C Vaughan, among others, formed the Lagos Youth Movement, later Nigerian Youth Movement, NYM, (1936) and by 1938, it was so popular that it was beating Herbert McCaulay’s NNDP to second position in the Council elections of the Lagos ownship and the Nigerian legislative Council. Came February 1941, when its member, Dr. Abayomi, had to resign for further studies abroad. This created an opening for a fresh election in which Ikoli and Akinsanya expressed interest to become the flag bearer of the Movement. Obafemi Awolowo’s group solidly supported Ikoli, an Ijaw; while Azikwe’s gave its backing to Akinsanya, an Ijebu Yoruba like Awolowo. Not much of tribal politics in those good old days even as the Movement was largely Yoruba dominated. But not when Ikoli won the flag. Zik and Akinsanya charged that they lost because their candidate was Ijebu not minding that so was also Awolowo. They walked out along with some Igbo members. According to G.O. Olusanya, non-Igbo members became suspicious. "They reasoned that if the Igbos continued the policy of closing ranks on issues while the others remained divided, it was only a question of time before the Igbo dominated the rest." (Groundwork of Nigerian History - Obaro Ikime). "Azikwe’s defection virtually destroyed the multi-tribal character of the Movement" (Nigerian Political Parties- R. L Sklar) .


Enough said!!!!

alj harem: tribalism of Ojukwu, Nnamdi and co are legendary

ACM10: Any intelligent contribution? I get bored easily with pointless comments. If you sincerely believe that I was beaten mercilessly; what prevents you from re-enacting the feat here? I don't chest-thump! I only bow to superior argument. I'm waiting. . .