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Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 12:10pm On Oct 30, 2012
Ladies and Gents,

GOD is not a SADIST.

How can a loving GOD whose anger endures but for a moment and his mercy endure forever, look on , while 80% of humanity are caged in a torture chamber for the sole purpose of endless , eternal and unyielding torment.

This is where the doctrine of original sin falls apart, it is a doctrine of demons straight from the pit of hell. We are not responsible for the SIN of Adam, we are only responsible for our own sins and actions as moral beings.

To suggest that people will literally be burning in misery for all eternity while the saints will be singing alleluia is quite frankly silly. Only SATAN could have invented this nonsense so as to malign the character of GOD.

Yes , there is the lake of fire for the purpose of eternal death which means to perish, but there is NO such thing as an existing HELL or an eternal lake of fire.

Many Christians are unknowingly preaching the gospel of SATAN and not of Christ. They tell you that if you reject JESUS you will end up in a torture chamber with no exit and all hell to look forward to. Is this not blackmail ? This is the stuff of those 'god' father movies and has nothing to do with our heavenly father.

Stop this hellish nonsense about hell.


The gospel is " For GOD so loved the world that he gave his only SON so that we may live and not die "


Get it ?


The gospel is GOD's LOVE and his invitation to all mankind to partake in his new kingdom of the coming age , where there will be no more sin, death, sorrow, crying or pain.

To reject GOD's love is to accept DEATH , for GOD cannot dwell with sinners.

The Message for today is repent and live.

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Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by God2man(m): 8:43pm On Oct 30, 2012
@frosbel, Anti-Tither, Anti-Trinitarian, now an Anti-Hellish, Preacher.


You know that all these church doctrines have been in existence before you were born. It will be hard to kick against the wall. Very hard. In my own opinion, it will NEVER work.

I do not know how you will achieve your aim with an estimated 5000 people on nairaland per hour, (not sure though). Many christians are not even aware of what you are doing on nairaland.

However, your presence on nairaland is a test. Some will believe your doctrine, some will be undecided, some will hate your sermons with perfect hatred.
God is watching everyone.

Nairalander christians are advised in their own interest to read their Bible, prayerfully and ask for the leading of the Holyspirit on any message posted by any nairalander.

God bless you.
God2man.

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Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by plappville(f): 10:24pm On Oct 30, 2012
frosbel: Ladies and Gents,

GOD is not a SADIST.

How can a loving GOD whose anger endures but for a moment and his mercy endure forever, look on , while 80% of humanity are caged in a torture chamber for the sole purpose of endless , eternal and unyielding torment.

This is where the doctrine of original sin falls apart, it is a doctrine of demons straight from the pit of hell. We
are not responsible for the SIN of Adam, we are only responsible for our own sins and actions as moral beings.

To suggest that people will literally be burning in misery
for all eternity while the saints will be singing alleluia is quite frankly silly. Only SATAN could have invented this nonsense so as to malign the character of GOD.

Yes , there is the lake of fire for the purpose of eternal
death which means to perish, but there is NO such thing as an existing HELL or an eternal lake of fire.

Many Christians are unknowingly preaching the gospel of SATAN and not of Christ. They tell you that if you
reject JESUS you will end up in a torture chamber with no exit and all hell to look forward to. Is this not blackmail ? This is the stuff of those 'god' father movies and has nothing to do with our heavenly father.

Stop this hellish nonsense about hell.


The gospel is " For GOD so loved the world that he gave his only SON so that we may live and not die "


Get it ?


The gospel is GOD's LOVE and his invitation to all
mankind to partake in his new kingdom of the coming age , where there will be no more sin, death, sorrow, crying or pain.

To reject GOD's love is to accept DEATH , for GOD cannot dwell with sinners.

The Message for today is repent and live.




To Italic = true talk!
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by plappville(f): 10:28pm On Oct 30, 2012
God2man:

However, your presence on nairaland is a test. Some will believe your doctrine, some will be undecided, some will hate your sermons with perfect hatred.
God is watching everyone.

Nairalander christians are advised in their own interest to read their Bible, prayerfully and ask for the leading of the Holyspirit on any message posted by any nairalander.

Agreed! You have spoken well.
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 10:37pm On Oct 30, 2012
[quote author=God2man]@frosbel, Anti-Tither, Anti-Trinitarian, now an Anti-Hellish, Preacher.


You know that all these church doctrines have been in existence before you were born. It will be hard to kick against the wall. Very hard. In my own opinion, it will NEVER work.

The false system of Catholicism held Europe in bondage for over a thousand years before Martin Luther was born. And yet he wrote 95 theses in opposition to the catholic church.

Just because something is accepted by the majority does not make it true, the apostasy started long before now , in fact it started after the death of the apostles and has been increasing ever since into the monster we have today , a monster of confusion, chaos and misdirection.

God is now raising people to destroy these myths and liberate his people from the bondage, fear and torment of religion.


Eternal torment preaching = Sadism under the cloak of Christianity
Tithe preaching = Fraud
Trinity preaching = blasphemy


"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it." - Matthew 7:13

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Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by DrGboy(m): 10:08am On Oct 31, 2012
frosbel: Ladies and Gents,

GOD is not a SADIST.

How can a loving GOD whose anger endures but for a moment and his mercy endure forever, look on , while 80% of humanity are caged in a torture chamber for the sole purpose of endless , eternal and unyielding torment.

This is where the doctrine of original sin falls apart, it is a doctrine of demons straight from the pit of hell. We are not responsible for the SIN of Adam, we are only responsible for our own sins and actions as moral beings.

To suggest that people will literally be burning in misery for all eternity while the saints will be singing alleluia is quite frankly silly. Only SATAN could have invented this nonsense so as to malign the character of GOD.

Yes , there is the lake of fire for the purpose of eternal death which means to perish, but there is NO such thing as an existing HELL or an eternal lake of fire.

Many Christians are unknowingly preaching the gospel of SATAN and not of Christ. They tell you that if you reject JESUS you will end up in a torture chamber with no exit and all hell to look forward to. Is this not blackmail ? This is the stuff of those 'god' father movies and has nothing to do with our heavenly father.

Stop this hellish nonsense about hell.


The gospel is " For GOD so loved the world that he gave his only SON so that we may live and not die "


Get it ?


The gospel is GOD's LOVE and his invitation to all mankind to partake in his new kingdom of the coming age , where there will be no more sin, death, sorrow, crying or pain.

To reject GOD's love is to accept DEATH , for GOD cannot dwell with sinners.

The Message for today is repent and live.







who are u to rephrase d bible verse John3:16 ?
U claim d message of hell should not be preached, well God did allow his son to die on a CROSS for that matter.imagine d shame and torture he went thru 4 our sins yet he was not a sinner,
what more than those who dwell in sin.
HELL is real believe it or not.
NO SINNER SHALL GO UNPUNISHED.

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Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 11:06am On Oct 31, 2012
Dr.Gboy:


who are u to rephrase d bible verse John3:16 ?
U claim d message of hell should not be preached, well God did allow his son to die on a CROSS for that matter.imagine d shame and torture he went thru 4 our sins yet he was not a sinner,
what more than those who dwell in sin.
HELL is real believe it or not.
NO SINNER SHALL GO UNPUNISHED.


" For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. " - John 3:16

The penalty for not believing is to Perish.

Let me assure you that DEATH is not a thing to accept or even appreciate, it is a horror of horrors.

On the last day , the unrighteous wicked will be raised mortal , judged, and cast into the lake of fire in their wholeness. This will be quite gruesome seeing that they are to be put out of existence forever and bearing in mind all the opportunities that they mocked , scoffed at and quite plainly rejected.

On the other hand the righteous will be raised in new immortal bodies , never to die again but to enjoy BLISS for an endless eternity.

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Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 11:10am On Oct 31, 2012
Dr.Gboy:


who are u to rephrase d bible verse John3:16 ?
U claim d message of hell should not be preached, well God did allow his son to die on a CROSS for that matter.imagine d shame and torture he went thru 4 our sins yet he was not a sinner,
what more than those who dwell in sin.
HELL is real believe it or not.
NO SINNER SHALL GO UNPUNISHED.

No one is saying sinners would go unpunished but their punishment would be second death, in the lake of burning sulphur! They'll all perish, nothing like eternal torture!

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Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 11:24am On Oct 31, 2012
frosbel: Ladies and Gents,

GOD is not a SADIST.

How can a loving GOD whose anger endure[b]s but for a moment and his mercy endure forever, look on , while 80% of humanity are caged in a torture chamber [/b]for the sole purpose of endless , eternal and unyielding torment.
This is an eternal God.. he isn't constrained by time..

2 Peter 3:8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day

His ways are not our ways..

frosbel:
This is where the doctrine of original sin falls apart, it is a doctrine of demons straight from the pit of hell. We are not responsible for the SIN of Adam, we are only responsible for our own sins and actions as moral beings.
To suggest that people will literally be burning in misery for all eternity while the saints will be singing alleluia is quite frankly silly. Only SATAN could have invented this nonsense so as to malign the character of GOD.
If we're not responsible for Adam's sin, then there was no point of Jesus' sacrifice.. bullshit frosbel..

Romans 5

6 You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. 7 Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. 8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

9 Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him! 10 For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! 11 Not only is this so, but we also boast in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.

1[b]2 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—

13 To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. 14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.
[/b]
15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many! 16 Nor can the gift of God be compared with the result of one man’s sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification. 17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!

18 Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. 19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.


frosbel:
Yes , there is the lake of fire for the purpose of eternal death which means to perish, but there is NO such thing as an existing HELL or an eternal lake of fire.
Many Christians are unknowingly preaching the gospel of SATAN and not of Christ. They tell you that if you reject JESUS you will end up in a torture chamber with no exit and all hell to look forward to. Is this not blackmail ? This is the stuff of those 'god' father movies and has nothing to do with our heavenly father.
The gospel of Christ is about salvation not death, Frosbel... focus on salvation, stop focusing on the method of death... you are the one being employed by Satan..

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Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 11:40am On Oct 31, 2012
^^^ You've rejected salvation and chosen to perish, why quote all those verses and try to interpret them your way to deceive others? You said if Yahweh happens to be real, you would prefer death to His gift of eternal life; why then are you tryna convince others to follow you to eternal death musKeeto take am easy o!

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Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 11:43am On Oct 31, 2012
seriallink: ^^^ You've rejected salvation and chosen to perish, why quote all those verses and try to interpret them your way to deceive others? You said if Yahweh happens to be real, you would prefer death to His gift of eternal life; why then are you tryna convince others to follow you to eternal death musKeeto take am easy o!
Oga cereal, na bad thing to know exactly as God wan use punish me9
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 11:49am On Oct 31, 2012
musKeeto:
Oga cereal, na bad thing to know exactly as God wan use punish me9

I fear you sha o grin grin for chosing death! SMH. Well, e never too late, think well make you change your choice!
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by truthislight: 1:37pm On Oct 31, 2012
musKeeto:

If we're not responsible for Adam's sin, then there was no point of Jesus' sacrifice.. bullshit frosbel..


but you will must gladly accept a fortune left behind for you by your parents?

If that is true, you will also lose your parental fortune based on the debt they owe. No?

It is what a father has that he leaves for his children.
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by truthislight: 1:40pm On Oct 31, 2012
seriallink: ^^^ You've rejected salvation and chosen to perish, why quote all those verses and try to interpret them your way to deceive others? You said if Yahweh happens to be real, you would prefer death to His gift of eternal life; why then are you tryna convince others to follow you to eternal death musKeeto take am easy o!

thank you my friend. The hypocrisy is to the power 1million.
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by truthislight: 1:42pm On Oct 31, 2012
musKeeto:
Oga cereal, na bad thing to know exactly as God wan use punish me9

how can an "unreal God" be able to punish you?
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 1:49pm On Oct 31, 2012
make una attack the Bible verses.... frosbel was definitely out of line and you guys are clueless on how to defend him... lol

confused souls... at least i know where im going if ur god is real and his foolish hell... do u?
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 2:01pm On Oct 31, 2012
musKeeto: make una attack the Bible verses.... frosbel was definitely out of line and you guys are clueless on how to defend him... lol

confused souls... at least i know where im going if ur god is real and his foolish hell... do u?


I am sorry , but you really must have a pathetic life to spend a good chunk of your time arguing about a non-existent God. grin
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 2:07pm On Oct 31, 2012
frosbel:

I am sorry , but you really must have a pathetic life to spend a good chunk of your time arguing about a non-existent God. grin
answer ur bible verses o...

abi make i go kall anony, ihe, and una oda ppl..
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 2:13pm On Oct 31, 2012
musKeeto:
answer ur bible verses o...

abi make i go kall anony, ihe, and una oda ppl..

I noticed that since they went on 'holiday' you have gone back to your sense of foreboding on what the future holds , lol.

May I suggest you get a Job ! wink
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 2:15pm On Oct 31, 2012
frosbel:

I noticed that since they went on 'holiday' you have gone back to your sense of foreboding on what the future holds , lol.

May I suggest you get a Job ! wink

funny, ive laughed.. now ur bible verses ..
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by truthislight: 7:34pm On Oct 31, 2012
musKeeto: make una attack the Bible verses.... frosbel was definitely out of line and you guys are clueless on how to defend him... lol

confused souls... at least i know where im going if ur god is real and his foolish hell... do u?


i dont have a clue what you are upto.

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Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 9:53am On Nov 06, 2012
truthislight:

i dont have a clue what you are upto.
grin
So frosbel abi na frostbite no fit reply my post.. lol.. talk about spirit led dunce..
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 10:42am On Nov 06, 2012
musKeeto:
grin
So frosbel abi na frostbite no fit reply my post.. lol.. talk about spirit led dunce..

mosquito , I am happy to oblige with a response later on cheesy
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 8:38pm On Nov 06, 2012
frosbel:

mosquito , I am happy to oblige with a response later on cheesy
After 4 more copy and paste threads... the only thing original from u is usually the title of your threads...
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by BigBashiru: 8:42pm On Nov 06, 2012
Frosbel, you preach a wicked gospel!!! Please stop or drink of the wrath of God grin im just kidding.

But anyways, the Bible says:

"And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever".

It is TORMENT not just DEATH.

Check out my new thread: "Christians do you believe this, if not Why with Bible Support"
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 10:22pm On Dec 20, 2012
In d Spirit of Xmas..
Bump 6
Frosbel, were my rebuttals that awesome?
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by mazaje(m): 10:32pm On Dec 20, 2012
Frosbel is now fighting with his religion and what it teaches, eh?. . .
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 10:33pm On Dec 20, 2012
mazaje: Frosbel is now fighting with his religion and what it teaches, eh?. . .

fighting with my religion ?

Since when did I belong to a religion !

I belong to JESUS, simples, no affiliation to any sect, denomination or group.

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Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by mazaje(m): 10:38pm On Dec 20, 2012
frosbel:

fighting with my religion ?

Since when did I belong to a religion !

I belong to JESUS, simples, no affiliation to any sect, denomination or group.

As you wish, if that will make you sleep comfortably at night. . .
Re: Re : The Sadism Of Eternal Torture And The Harshness Of It's Adherents. by Nobody: 10:40pm On Dec 20, 2012
U belong to a dead man?
That's so freakishly gay..

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