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Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by CuntDestroyer: 10:25am On Oct 31, 2012
wild guy: Nigerians never fail to surprise me.

The man is giving a warning of possible ripple effects.
If he did not give this warning and the effects are felt here you would all be blaming them for negligence and stupidity.

Sinple advice: stay away from the coast. How hard can that be?

WHERE IS THE SCIENCE BACKING IT? You don't just wake up in the morning and spew bull cos you are in government.
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by tpia5: 10:25am On Oct 31, 2012
^ you're funny grin


You no dey rep your oyibo side at all?


Anyway, in actual fact, wind movement is circular, not straight, @ remii
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by tpia5: 10:27am On Oct 31, 2012
Post was for ilaje44
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by michylabo(m): 12:53pm On Oct 31, 2012
The commissioner might be right you know. Its obvious that many that commented on this post are not experienced or solidly grounded in science, If not, you would realize that the earth, weather e.t.c are all dynamic. Sandy can grow to a 4 or 5 in a twinkle. She can change direction and gain disastrous speed in a twinkle as well. The surge that cut thru kuramo was a ripple effect of a storm that happened in another continent. 16 already dead in Almighty USA cos of sandy. So better yield is advice whether political or scientific and stay off the coast for 2weeks
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by CuntDestroyer: 1:11pm On Oct 31, 2012
michylabo: The commissioner might be right you know. Its obvious that many that commented on this post are not experienced or solidly grounded in science, If not, you would realize that the earth, weather e.t.c are all dynamic. Sandy can grow to a 4 or 5 in a twinkle. She can change direction and gain disastrous speed in a twinkle as well. The surge that cut thru kuramo was a ripple effect of a storm that happened in another continent. 16 already dead in Almighty USA cos of sandy. So better yield is advice whether political or scientific and stay off the coast for 2weeks

Hurricanes generally churn the ocean creating sea winds that will lead to swells which in turn leads to ocean surges within the vicinity of the storm. Lagos is over 6000 miles from the storm center and is buffeted by the Bight Of Benin. In summary there is little or no chance of ocean surge affecting Lagos coastlines as a result of Hurricane Sandy. The last ocean surge was not directly as a result of hurricanes in the Atlantic but a normal climate feature of the Tropical Atlantic during the J.A.S. months brought about by strong wind currents originating from the intensification of the St. Helena high pressure center which governs the monsoon flow over west Africa.
Several factors also lead to ocean tides and wave swells over the west African shorelines from Lunar activity to also localized storm cells, up welling currents brought about by parallel sea-wind flows relative to the shoreline (westerly winds), etc.

The Commissioner should bring to our knowledge the climate and ocean model he consulted in making such callous statements.

Finally, the Lagos shoreline erosion has little or nothing to do with climate change but as a result of the sand filling of adjacent Lekki peninsular which is a natural barrier reef meant to protect the inland from surging Atlantic.
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by richkids1(m): 1:19pm On Oct 31, 2012
This Sandy stuff is having effect in Nigeria if we are to be truthful. Recent rains and winds in Ibadan is a good test to this...Please let's spread the news and not joke about this. We can't afford to lose people and properties in Nigeria anymore.

God bless NIGERIA!
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by CuntDestroyer: 1:34pm On Oct 31, 2012
richkids1: This Sandy stuff is having effect in Nigeria if we are to be truthful. Recent rains and winds in Ibadan is a good test to this...Please let's spread the news and not joke about this. We can't afford to lose people and properties in Nigeria anymore.

God bless NIGERIA!

I am now convinced that 90% of posters here are ret@rded or just plain ignorant.
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by Cupidkc(m): 2:41pm On Oct 31, 2012
Nosa-Henry:
The commissioner should talk scientifically and not on mere speculation. American govt knew what was coming and they were prepared for it.
thats naija for u bro.
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by SmileGirl(f): 3:22pm On Oct 31, 2012
D will of God is nt meant 4 pple 2 suffer , it is our sins which have given d devil power 2 punish and to destroy us. God have mercy on us. D prayer of d righteous pple are needed
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by knowledge4(m): 3:31pm On Oct 31, 2012
The Commissioner may be right. And i believe there is scientific precedence to justify his assertion.
The Tsunami that occurred in the Indian Ocean in December 2004 had its ripple effects affecting about 11 nations along the shoreline including Somalia or Ethiopia, thousands of miles away from Sri Lanka that bore the weight of the disaster.
The issue is this:what will the magnitude of the ripple effects be and what is being done to address it? Is it to wait for the danger to occur first, maybe sweep away some ignorant fishermen before calling the Red Cross and setting up relief camps?
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by Remmyy: 3:34pm On Oct 31, 2012
see fools debating about 'distance'
ripple effect is real, happened in some parts of ibadan on monday.
knocked down power poles and some houses, i wonder why none of it is in the news.
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by CuntDestroyer: 3:40pm On Oct 31, 2012
knowledge4: The Commissioner is right.
The Tsunami that occurred in the Indian Ocean in December 2004 had its ripple effects affecting about 11 nations along the shoreline including Somalia or Ethiopia, thousands of miles away from Sri Lanka that bore the weight of the disaster.
The issue is this:what will the magnitude of the ripple effects be and what is being done to address it? Is it to wait for the danger to occur first, maybe sweep away some ignorant fishermen before calling the Red Cross and setting up relief camps?

A Hurricane induced ocean surge is no where the same thing as a Tsunami. Tsunamis are as a result of underwater earthquakes. The 2005 Christmas Tsunami began in the middle of the Indian Ocean and as such affected adorning coastlines.Tsunami waves are generated over the seismic zone and the waves initially generated can be less than a meter in swells but as they propagate in all directions coastlines they become monster waves of up to 60m . The most affected and devasted areas had gently sloping shore beds.

Wind-Generated waves are far weaker and only affect the immediate coastline and are far weaker than Tsunamis.

Why did the Christmass Tsunami not affect Lagos and environs?

Here is a map of the Indian Ocean

Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by Mckybarf(m): 4:14pm On Oct 31, 2012
mukina2:


http://www.channelstv.com/home/2012/10/30/ripples-of-hurricane-sandy-may-hit-lagos-commissioner/
think it will be better to tell lagosians to prepare for hurricane nairaland- haba! So ripples from the shores of new york and other eastern states are gonna travel miles across ocean to lagos? Nah-wah-oh!
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by michylabo(m): 4:14pm On Oct 31, 2012
CuntDestroyer:

Hurricanes generally churn the ocean creating sea winds that will lead to swells which in turn leads to ocean surges within the vicinity of the storm. Lagos is over 6000 miles from the storm center and is buffeted by the Bight Of Benin. In summary there is little or no chance of ocean surge affecting Lagos coastlines as a result of Hurricane Sandy. The last ocean surge was not directly as a result of hurricanes in the Atlantic but a normal climate feature of the Tropical Atlantic during the J.A.S. months brought about by strong wind currents originating from the intensification of the St. Helena high pressure center which governs the monsoon flow over west Africa.
Several factors also lead to ocean tides and wave swells over the west African shorelines from Lunar activity to also localized storm cells, up welling currents brought about by parallel sea-wind flows relative to the shoreline (westerly winds), etc.

The Commissioner should bring to our knowledge the climate and ocean model he consulted in making such callous statements.

Finally, the Lagos shoreline erosion has little or nothing to do with climate change but as a result of the sand filling of adjacent Lekki peninsular which is a natural barrier reef meant to protect the inland from surging Atlantic.



Well Bro, you sound educated. But know that with rise in sea levels globally, any little surge wld be felt by coast lines with little or no chance of experiencing this in the past. Lagos coast area is now between 0.3 to barely 2m above LCD. Even if the surge travels from Australia, there is a possibility of hitting previously undisturbed coastlines. This has been monitored for the past 4years. I speak as an authority on this. You can check with Fugro and seabed for data relating to hurricanes in the Caribbean that caused the storm on the 17/08/2012 in Kuramo. I suggest all heed the early warning. Its only a prediction. And the probability is 70%.
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by CuntDestroyer: 4:31pm On Oct 31, 2012
michylabo:
Well Bro, you sound educated. But know that with rise in sea levels globally, any little surge wld be felt by coast lines with little or no chance of experiencing this in the past. Lagos coast area is now between 0.3 to barely 2m above LCD. Even if the surge travels from Australia, there is a possibility of hitting previously undisturbed coastlines. This has been monitored for the past 4years. I speak as an authority on this. You can check with Fugro and seabed for data relating to hurricanes in the Caribbean that caused the storm on the 17/08/2012 in Kuramo. I suggest all heed the early warning. Its only a prediction. And the probability is 70%.

There is no denying the fact that Sea-Level is on the rise due to arctic ice melt down, and most shorelines and islands are in direct danger of being submerged but arctic ice and sea level rise is totally different thing. The unique feature of the west African sub-continent allows for only two main ocean currents yearly. The energy released by the storm did affect ocean dynamics but this is usually at the first 10 to 30m of ocean beneath that the ocean remains calm. Tsunamis on the other hand displace by far large volumes of ocean water from the sea bed. If an under water earthquake displaces the sea bed as low as 0.1m , over an area say 500 meters square you will displace huge volumes of water. Sea Swells are a surface phenomenon and most inherent energy is distributed as waves which are absorbed by the shoreline, ocean currents and also the earth's rotation.

This is calling wolf. Even if the warning should be considered what adequate measure will Lagos state take to protect their shoreline?
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by linearity: 5:01pm On Oct 31, 2012
manny4life: Haha, Lagos have come again with their theories. Ripples will affect you from 5,000+ miles away? This must be a really super storm Sandy shocked shocked shocked

The Hurricane did not emerge from the USA, it came from the Atlantic Ocean and hits the USA...This same ocean is shared by many countries...so it is not out of place to keep all coastal countries on the alert.

It might surprise you to know that, most Atlantic hurricanes are given birth to in Africa as winds over the Gulf of Aden intersect with the Ethiopian Highlands in East Africa and they travel all the way through the Ocean to the USA or wherever.
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by CuntDestroyer: 5:34pm On Oct 31, 2012
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by zinosleek(m): 7:02pm On Oct 31, 2012
50calibre: Ripples from thousand of miles away? These people have started magnetizing evil for themselves even if they know they are not equipped to handle 1/10 of the scale of hurricane sandy.
The ocean as a body can transfer energy from one point to the other, I don't know how they came to this conclusion about the ripple effect affecting Nigeria, but it shld be noted that energy will transfer through the ocean as wave but where it will travel to depends on the intensity. Maybe d wave wld hv lost energy before it travels to Nigeria.
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by EmmBee: 7:20pm On Oct 31, 2012
manny4life: Haha, Lagos have come again with their theories. Ripples will affect you from 5,000+ miles away? This must be a really super storm Sandy shocked shocked shocked
Re: Lagos: Ripples Of Hurricane Sandy May Hit – Commissioner by Wallie(m): 9:38pm On Oct 31, 2012
Hmmm....I've not seen anything to support hurricane hitting Lagos (or even West Africa) after hitting the US. On the contrary, I see most hurricanes developing in the Atlantic closer to North Africa before heading towards America. If you have any particular year of hurricane or tropical cyclones hitting Lagos, I can look it up or you may do so yourself at: http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at2012.asp

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