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All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by Nobody: 1:18pm On Nov 02, 2012
"Christ Jesus left you this sweet key of obedience; for He left His Vicar, whom you are all obliged to obey until death. And whoever is outside his obedience is in a state of damnation." - St. Catherine of Siena, MCH, reference #374, (quoted in Apostolic Digest, by Michael Malone, Book 5: "The Book of Obedience", Chapter 1: "There is No Salvation Without Personal Submission to the Pope" ).


"Although the devil desired to sift all the disciples, the Lord testifies that He Himself asked for Peter alone, and wished that the others be confirmed by him (Lk. 22:32); and to Peter as well was committed the care of "feeding the sheep" (Jn. 21:15); and also to him did the Lord hand over the "keys to the kingdom of Heaven" (Mt. 16:19). If, however, anyone believes contrary to this, let him know he is condemned and anathematized. Consider, therefore, that whoever has not been in the peace and unity of the Church cannot have the Lord. Those not willing to be at agreement in the Church of God cannot abide with God. For the Church of God is established among those known to preside over the Apostolic Sees, and whoever separates himself from these Sees is manifestly in schism." - Pope Pelagius II, Quod Ad Dilectionem," DNZ:246; "Dilectionis Vestrae," DNZ:247, (quoted in Apostolic Digest, by Michael Malone, Book 4: "The Book of Christians", Chapter 4: "There is No Allegiance to Christ Without Submission to the Pope" ).

"...our Divine Redeemer also governs His Mystical Body in a visible and normal way through His Vicar on earth....After His glorious Ascension into heaven this Church rested not on Him alone, but on Peter too, its visible foundation stone. That Christ and His Vicar constitute one only Head is the solemn teaching of Our predecessor of immortal memory Boniface VIII in the Apostolic Letter Unam Sanctam; and his successors have never ceased to repeat the same.
"They, therefore, walk in the path of dangerous error who believe that they can accept Christ as the Head of the Church, while not adhering loyally to His Vicar on earth. They have taken away the visible head, broken the visible bonds of unity and left the Mystical Body of the Redeemer so obscured and so maimed, that those who are seeking the haven of eternal salvation can neither see it nor find it....
"As the Divine Redeemer sent the Paraclete, the Spirit of Truth, who in His name should govern the Church in an invisible way, so, in the same manner, He commissioned Peter and his successors to be His personal representatives on earth and to assume the visible government of the Christian community."
- Pope Pius XII, Mystici Corporis Christi (On the Mystical Body of Christ), Encyclical promulgated on June 29, 1943, #41-42, 69.


"Those who are obstinate toward the authority of the Roman Pontiff cannot obtain eternal salvation." - Pope Pius IX, Quanto Conficiamur Moerore, DNZ:1677, (quoted in Apostolic Digest, by Michael Malone, Book 5: "The Book of Obedience", Chapter 1: "There is No Salvation Without Personal Submission to the Pope" ).


"We teach,...We declare that the Roman Church by the Providence of God holds the primacy of ordinary power over all others, and that this power of jurisdiction of the Roman Pontiff, which is truly episcopal, is immediate. Toward it, the pastors and the faithful of whatever rite and dignity, both individually and collectively, are bound by the duty of hierarchical subordination and true obedience, not only in matters which pertain to faith and morals, but also in those which concern the discipline and government of the Church spread throughout the whole world, in such a way that once the unity of communion and the profession of the same Faith has been preserved with the Roman Pontiff, there is one flock of the Church of Christ under one supreme shepherd. This is the teaching of the Catholic truth from which no one can depart without loss of faith and salvation." - Pope Pius XII, Ad Apostolorum Principis (On Communism And The Church In China), Encyclical Promulgated on June 29, 1958, #46.


Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by Nobody: 1:23pm On Nov 02, 2012
"He who does not enter by the door of the fold shall not have salvation. The door of the fold is the Catholic Church and union with the Head who represents Jesus Christ." - St. Frances Xavier Cabrini, "Travels", Chicago: 1944, p. 170, (quoted in Apostolic Digest, by Michael Malone, Book 5: "The Book of Obedience", Chapter 1: "There is No Salvation Without Personal Submission to the Pope" ).

"Urged by faith, we are obliged to believe and to maintain that the Church is one, holy, catholic, and also apostolic. We believe in her firmly and we confess with simplicity that outside of her there is neither salvation nor the remission of sins...There had been at the time of the deluge only one ark of Noah, prefiguring the one Church, which ark, having been finished to a single cubit, had only one pilot and guide, i.e., Noah, and we read that, outside of this ark, all that subsisted on the earth was destroyed....Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff." - Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam, Bull promulgated on November 18, 1302.

"The Saviour Himself is the door of the sheepfold: 'I am the door of the sheep.' Into this fold of Jesus Christ, no man may enter unless he be led by the Sovereign Pontiff; and only if they be united to him can men be saved, for the Roman Pontiff is the Vicar of Christ and His personal representative on earth." - Pope John XXIII, in To the Bishops and Faithful Assisting at His Coronation, Homily given on November 4, 1958.

"O glorious St. Peter, obtain for us a sincere loyalty to our Holy Mother the Church; grant that we may ever remain most closely and sincerely united to the Roman Pontiff who is the heir of thy faith and authority: the one, true, visible head of the Catholic Church, that mystical Ark outside which there is no salvation." - Pope Benedict XV, RAC:484, (quoted in Apostolic Digest, by Michael Malone, Book 2: "The Book of Salvation", Chapter 1: "There is No Salvation Outside the One True Church" ).


"But the supreme teacher in the Church is the Roman Pontiff. Union of minds, therefore, requires, together with a perfect accord in the one faith, complete submission and obedience of will to the Church and to the Roman Pontiff, as to God Himself. This obedience should, however, be perfect...(and) must consequently be accepted without wavering....
"Wherefore it belongs to the Pope to judge authoritatively what things the sacred oracles contain, as well as what doctrines are in harmony, and what in disagreement, with them; and also, for the same reason, to show forth what things are to be accepted as right, and what to be rejected as worthless; what it is necessary to do and what to avoid doing, in order to attain eternal salvation."
- Pope Leo XIII, in Sapientiae Christianae (On Christians As Citizens), Encyclical promulgated on January 10, 1890, #22-24.


"To be subject to the Roman Pontiff is absolutely necessary for salvation." - St. Thomas Aquinas, Against the Errors of the Greeks, Pt. 2, ch. 36; PTC:484, (quoted in Apostolic Digest, by Michael Malone, Book 5: "The Book of Obedience", Chapter 1: "There is No Salvation Without Personal Submission to the Pope" ).


"This is our last lesson to you: receive it, engrave it in your minds, all of you: by God's commandment salvation is to be found nowhere but in the Church; the strong and effective instrument of salvation is none other than the Roman Pontificate." - Pope Leo XIII, in Allocution for the 25th Anniversary of His Election, given on February 20, 1903 (quoted in "Papal Teachings: The Church", by the Benedictine Monks of Solesmes, St. Paul Editions, Boston, 1962, par. 653).

"It is necessary for salvation that all the faithful of Christ be subject to the Roman Pontiff." - Fifth Lateran Council, (quoted in Apostolic Digest, by Michael Malone, Book 4: "The Book of Christians", Chapter 4: "There is No Allegiance to Christ Without Submission to the Pope" ).


"No man...outside the faith of the Church and obedience to the Roman Pontiff can finally be saved." - Pope Clement VI, Epistle of September 29, 1351, (quoted in article "Is There Salvation Outside the Church?" )
Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by Nobody: 1:25pm On Nov 02, 2012
You might think that you are doing a good job for your religion.


You turn off christians and others when you continue this crusade against orthodox churches (from which you got your bible).

Everyone can see your intolerance to other christians. What would you do to non christians?
Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by pastormustwac: 1:30pm On Nov 02, 2012
My comments shall be hidden.
Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by Nobody: 1:35pm On Nov 02, 2012
Logicboy03: You might think that you are doing a good job for your religion.


You turn off Christians and others when you continue this crusade against orthodox churches (from which you got your bible).

Everyone can see your intolerance to other Christians. What would you do to non Christians?

If the pope and his entourage think that it is okay to carry our crusades to force others to submit to him and the so called church , if the pope and the so called catholic church have pronounced anathemas on protestants, I only see think it fit , that we small fry should counter this onslaught of evil and invasion of our freedom of choice with the TRUTH.

btw , you should have a grudge against the catholic church, after all they hate gays and have killed not a few in the middle ages grin

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Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by Nobody: 1:44pm On Nov 02, 2012
frosbel:

If the pope and his entourage think that it is okay to carry our crusades to force others to submit to him and the so called church , if the pope and the so called catholic church have pronounced anathemas on protestants, I only see think it fit , that we small fry should counter this onslaught of evil and invasion of our freedom of choice with the TRUTH.

btw , you should have a grudge against the catholic church, after all they hate gays and have killed not a few in the middle ages grin


lol....and what makes you think that I like the catholic church?


The point here is that while you attack the church, you attack yourself.


The bible you use was compiled by whom?
Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by Nobody: 1:47pm On Nov 02, 2012
Logicboy03:


lol....and what makes you think that I like the catholic church?


The point here is that while you attack the church, you attack yourself.


The bible you use was compiled by whom?

By the way , I only provided quotations from catholic sources, so you cannot accuse me of attacking anyone !

It's like attacking a witness in court because he/she provided ample , factual and undeniable evidence.

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Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by pastormustwac: 1:49pm On Nov 02, 2012
The catholic church did not write the scriptures in the bible.
They have their reasons *emperor constantine* for compiling the bible, and throwing out scriptures that do not favor them.
Find out about the gnostic christians, and their history.

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Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by plappville(f): 2:05pm On Nov 02, 2012
So the Pope now determine who qualifies to reign with Christ, No wonder Popeitalo is so confident when defending thier doctrine. Catholic is a big dream grin grin

I cant stop laughing at this church !

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Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by plappville(f): 2:08pm On Nov 02, 2012
But sure, millions will fall in thier trap. WE can see it already in NL.
Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by Nobody: 2:09pm On Nov 02, 2012
pastormustwac: The catholic church did not write the scriptures in the bible.
They have their reasons *emperor constantine* for compiling the bible, and throwing out scriptures that do not favor them.
Find out about the gnostic christians, and their history.

For the umpteenth time I have told you that constantine had no hand in the compilation of the bible yet you are so adamant.worse still you have refused to debate the topic.

@frosbel

How is that differant from you preaching that all catholics are doomed
Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by pastormustwac: 2:18pm On Nov 02, 2012
All catholics that fail to follow Jesus are dooooooomed.
Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. And the pope cannot replace him.
Emperor constantine defender - lmao. Abeg, let me believe whatever I like.

If I chose to say your pope is aluminati - then you can declare me anathema. Better get off my case, for your own good.

Now this thread is interesting.
Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by christemmbassey(m): 2:33pm On Nov 02, 2012
@ all instead of you to preach the gospel and make disciples for Christ, you are engaging in a fruitless, meaningless, unedified, fleshy, ignorant, satanic hellis arguments that is clearly leading to nowhere. @ frobel, preach ur own leave d pope n catholics alone.

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Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by pastormustwac: 2:40pm On Nov 02, 2012
Well, you do have a point.

*Pockets and walks out*

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Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by Rich4god(m): 4:06pm On Nov 02, 2012
Una no dey taya to dey poke nose for catholic matter... Channel all your energy in serving God the best way you can and leave catholics alone.
Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by Anyigala(m): 5:29pm On Nov 02, 2012
pastormustwac: The catholic church did not write the scriptures in the bible.
They have their reasons *emperor constantine* for compiling the bible, and throwing out scriptures that do not favor them.
Find out about the gnostic christians, and their history.

Anyone that some how link Constantine with writing the bible or founder of Catholic church should never be taken serioulsly.
Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by pastormustwac: 6:19pm On Nov 02, 2012
Anyigala:

Anyone that some how link Constantine with writing the bible or founder of Catholic church should never be taken serioulsly.

You wish. . . .muhahahahahaha
Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by Nobody: 6:57pm On Nov 02, 2012
pastormustwac: All catholics that fail to follow Jesus are dooooooomed.
Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. And the pope cannot replace him.
Emperor constantine defender - lmao. Abeg, let me believe whatever I like.

If I chose to say your pope is aluminati - then you can declare me anathema. Better get off my case, for your own good.

Now this thread is interesting.
pastormustwac: All catholics that fail to follow Jesus are dooooooomed.
Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. And the pope cannot replace him.
Emperor constantine defender - lmao. Abeg, let me believe whatever I like.

If I chose to say your pope is aluminati - then you can declare me anathema. Better get off my case, for your own good.

Now this thread is interesting.

To think that this is comming from someone who only a few days ago opened a thread where he advocated christians should not be bashing each other.

This is the height of hypocrisy!!!!
Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by pastormustwac: 7:33pm On Nov 02, 2012
^^^So that is bashing? You need to go back to school to learn english.
Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by truthislight: 7:46pm On Nov 02, 2012
Logicboy03:

The point here is that while you attack the church, you attack yourself.


The bible you use was compiled by whom?

^^^

those are lies that you have been fed all along, and that is why you are an atheist today.

They use that to feed you that there is no God indirectly.

Logicboy03:
The bible you use was compiled by whom?

the NT is a writing by christ apostles and not the catholic church RCC.

The apostles wrote letters and taught the christians what and how to follow in their service to God/faith.

See some sample of the apostles letters by their own mouth in the bible a book they had wanted to destroy.





peter:
1. "As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness." (2 Peter 3:16-17).
(note: his epistle)

Paul:
2. "The salutation of Paul with mine own hand, which is the token in every epistle: so I write." (2 Thessalonians 3:17).

(note: every epistle)

3. "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle." (2 Thessalonians 2:15).
(note: our epistle)

4. "And Tychicus have I sent to Ephesus. The cloke that I left at Troas with Carpus, when thou comest, bring with thee, and the books, but especially the parchments." (2 Timothy 4:12-13).

5. "Therefore I write these things being absent, lest being present I should use sharpness, according to the power which the Lord hath given me to edification, and not to destruction." (2 Corinthians 13:10).

6. "I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:" (1 Corinthians 5:9).
(note: his epistle)

7. "But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat." (1 Corinthians 5:11).
(note: I have written unto you)

8. "Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not." (Galatians 1:20).
( I write unto you,)

9. "How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)" (Ephesians 3:3-4).

(note: as I wrote afore in few words,)

Congregations to exchange letters :

1. "And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea." (Colossians 4:16).

This are just few letters from the apostles not to talk of revelation and others that they the apostles wrote.

Leave those hypocritical RCC that lie that they gave the bible, a book they dont follow, how ironic

Compiling this apostolic writings is not supposed to be a big deal except that some of them wanted to add to it.

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Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by pastormustwac: 7:50pm On Nov 02, 2012
^^^^Outstanding, God bless you.
Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by truthislight: 7:54pm On Nov 02, 2012
plappville: So the Pope now determine who qualifies to reign with Christ, No wonder Popeitalo is so confident when defending thier doctrine. Catholic is a big dream grin grin

I cant stop laughing at this church !

"Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." (2 Thessalonians 2:4).

"And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:" (2 Thessalonians 2:cool.

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Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by Nobody: 7:57pm On Nov 02, 2012
Speechless!! *Smh* this is completely out of Christianity *Smh* Interesting thread frosbel! Nice one

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Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by pastormustwac: 7:58pm On Nov 02, 2012
truthislight:

"Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." (2 Thessalonians 2:4).

"And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:" (2 Thessalonians 2:cool.

NO WONDER SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT THE POPE NA ALUMINATI!

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Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by truthislight: 8:02pm On Nov 02, 2012
chukwudi44:

For the umpteenth time I have told you that constantine had no hand in the compilation of the bible yet you are so adamant.worse still you have refused to debate the topic.


who gave you the authority to warn Anybody on this forum?

This is an open forum and all are free to air their views all you can do is make your case.

See you acting like your mother RCC.

If you have your way you will kill him like your mother RCC did to people in the dark ages.

Roasting people alive for just having the bible.

Like mother like son.

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Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by truthislight: 8:13pm On Nov 02, 2012
chukwudi44:

To think that this is comming from someone who only a few days ago opened a thread where he advocated christians should not be bashing each other.

This is the height of hypocrisy!!!!

^^^

that will really make you happy, since it will not exposed your wickedness and lies.

"By their fruit ye shall know them"

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Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by pastormustwac: 8:20pm On Nov 02, 2012
Walahi, the RCC people don tire for me o, and want be silenced by force.
Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by Nobody: 8:32pm On Nov 02, 2012
truthislight:

who gave you the authority to warn Anybody on this forum?

This is an open forum and all are free to air their views all you can do is make your case.

See you acting like your mother RCC.

If you have your way you will kill him like your mother RCC did to people in the dark ages.

Roasting people alive for just having the bible.

Like mother like son.

Thank you! So, after going through this article some people are still talking? BTW, it's not a conspiracy; it was what came out of their mouths *Smh for them*

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Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by Nobody: 8:35pm On Nov 02, 2012
truthislight:

"Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." (2 Thessalonians 2:4).

"And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:" (2 Thessalonians 2:cool.

Very true.
Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by pastormustwacc: 8:37pm On Nov 02, 2012
This is something i did not really want to post before, but because of all these RCC jamtalking, i don post am.

RCC believe they have a license to kill for God, and that the pope actually has the power to send anyone to heaven or hell. I doubt if many of those RCC members even know what anathema means.

Anathemas By Mary Ann Collins (A Former Catholic Nun) : Read Carefully Everyone

and

Does The Roman Catholic Church Deny The Jesus Of The Bible?

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Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by Nobody: 8:40pm On Nov 02, 2012
False prophets have been telling us that the man of sin will be coming soon, but the truth is, the man of SIN has been around for over 1000 years !

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Re: All People Must Be Subject To The Authority Of The Pope In Order To Be Saved by pastormustwacc: 8:47pm On Nov 02, 2012
^^^Very true bro (i am forced to agree)

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