mass murdering atheists:
"The total body count for the ninety years
between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined."

F00028: mass murdering atheists:
"The total body count for the ninety years
between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined."

As usual, an ignorant muslim comes to talk nonsense.

Christianity remains the bloodiest religion.


Who were atheists killing from 1990 till 2007?

F00028: mass murdering atheists:
"The total body count for the ninety years
between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined."

Yes, yes, yes. I've noticed how they did it because of atheism. There's that atheist hand book/doctrine, I forget the name, that promises us 72 virgins (and unquenchable erections, maybe a couple of goats as well) if we die in a jihad.

Logicboy03:
As usual, an ignorant muslim comes to talk nonsense.

Christianity remains the bloodiest religion.

Who were atheists killing from 1990 till 2007?

the message, _logic boy, not the messenger.

" It is not only Stalin and Mao who were so murderously inclined, they were merely the worst of the whole Hell-bound lot. For every Pol Pot whose infamous name is still spoken with horror today, there was a Mengistu, a Bierut, and a Choibalsan, godless men whose names are now forgotten everywhere but in the lands they once ruled with a red hand."

F00028:
the message, _logic boy, not the messenger.

" It is not only Stalin and Mao who were so murderously inclined, they were merely the worst of the whole Hell-bound lot. For every Pol Pot whose infamous name is still spoken with horror today, there was a Mengistu, a Bierut, and a Choibalsan, godless men whose names are now forgotten everywhere but in the lands they once ruled with a red hand."

Copy and paste


Stalin Mao and co killed because of their communist ideologies.


Anyways, you're too silly to understand what you copied.


Notice how religionists always go to communist regimes to times before they were born to criticise atheism. They never find fault in present day atheism or atheists in non-communist countires.


Your problem is with communism not atheism

Logicboy03:
Copy and paste

you figure that all by yourself or did you see the quotation marks?

Logicboy03: Stalin Mao and co killed because of their communist ideologies.

Your problem is with communism not
atheism

"Apparently it was just an amazing coincidence that every Communist of historical note publicly declared his atheism"

Logicboy03: Notice how religionists always go to communist regimes to times before they were born to criticise atheism. They never find fault in present day atheism or atheists in non-communist countires.

so because some atheists murder a few million before we were born it becomes irrelevant?

F00028:
you figure that all by yourself or did you see the quotation marks?



"Apparently it was just an amazing coincidence that every Communist of historical note publicly declared his atheism"


so because some atheists murder a few million before we were born it becomes irrelevant?

You are seriously dull,


The point is is simply that those people did not kill in the name of atheism. They killed because of their communist ideology.

No one is saying genocide is right.


Now, lets look at the Islamic conquest in which over 12 million slaves were taken from Africa and thousands were killed in the name of Jihad and Allah.


Furthermore, why is it that you cant find problems with atheism in the present like how we do with islam both in past and present with their jihad?

@Logicboy03

you cannot eat your cake and have it, the atheist communists killed because of their atheist ideology in the form of Leninism.

Stop being a hypocrite !!!

frosbel: @Logicboy03

you cannot eat your cake and have it, the atheist communists killed because of their atheist ideology in the form of Leninism.

Stop being a hypocrite !!!

Atheism is not an ideology.


Communists killed because of their totalitarian ideology embedded in communism.


Try again

Logicboy03:


Atheism is not an ideology.


Communists killed because of their totalitarian ideology embedded in communism.


Try again

Don't tempt me to come all out and label you a hypocrite, please don't.

frosbel:



Don't tempt me to come all out and label you a hypocrite, please don't.

Please, try to.


It would be meaningless.


Fail

"...there have been
twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the helm …These twenty-eight historical regimes have been ruled by eighty-nine atheists, of whom more than half have engaged in democidal acts of the sort committed by Stalin and Mao …"

F00028: "...there have been
twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the helm …These twenty-eight historical regimes have been ruled by eighty-nine atheists, of whom more than half have engaged in democidal acts of the sort committed by Stalin and Mao …"

Copy and paste

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Logicboy03:
The point is is simply that those people did not kill in the name of atheism. They killed because of their communist ideology.

that's no point at all.

when you murder a couple million people it doesn't really matter in whose name you kill them: they're no less dead!

couldn't those atheists with all their innate, natural moral values see that murder was simply wrong?

F00028:
that's no point at all.

when you murder a couple million people it doesn't really matter in whose name you kill them: they're no less dead!

couldn't those atheists with all their innate, natural moral values see that murder was simply wrong?

lol....there are good atheists and bad atheists.


Just as there are terroist muslims and good muslims.



Why didnt those muslims with all their innate, Allah-given values see that terrorism was simply wrong?

F00028:
that's no point at all.

This is very simple, did they kill because of atheist dogma or not?

F00028:
when you murder a couple million people it doesn't really matter in whose name you kill them: they're no less dead!

Pathetic attempt to dodge the issue. What does the fact that they are dead have to do with atheism?

F00028:
couldn't those atheists with all their innate, natural moral values see that murder was simply wrong?

Thanks for pointing out the obvious. And this goes for any atheist/theist, not just these ones. Here's a nobel laureate in physics' take on the subject

"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

You know, like how it makes otherwise normal people suddenly murder in the name of religion, or even just approve it as an acceptable way to settle completely trivial, victimless "crimes" (these "crimes" usually being in no way any of their business as well). Or think stoning people to death is a reasonable punishment. Or they get 72 houri by blowing up themselves. Or thinking that homosexuals are bad because, well, just because. Or thinking that members of another faith are kaffirs, fit for derision and persecution. Or, of course, thinking apostates should be killed as well for having the temerity to have a change of mind. At one point, even those working on sabbath were supposed to killed. The list goes on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on.

And here's a nice intro article on religious violence. Note this applies to political religions as well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_violence

They'll call genocide wrong if it's done by atheists... Heck, they'll even blame atheism...
The suicide bombers are wrong too, heck they'll even blame Islam..
Those who claim to be Christians, yet commit these crimes, are wrong too.. but don't blame CHRISTIANITY, those people aren't true CHRISTIANS...

But when our GOD does the same thing... it's HIS will. who are we to question?

musKeeto: They'll call genocide wrong if it's done by atheists... Heck, they'll even blame atheism...
The suicide bombers are wrong too, heck they'll even blame Islam..
Those who claim to be Christians, yet commit these crimes, are wrong too.. but don't blame CHRISTIANITY, those people aren't true CHRISTIANS...

But when our GOD does the same thing... it's HIS will. who are we to question?

Yeah!
when Gorge Bush, a born again christian, used lies and deception to invade another country, throw 500lb bombs in residential areas,at the end of which an entire country is destroyed and more than 650,000 innocent Iraqi citizens perish for no crimes of their own, no one blames his religion.

plaetton:

Yeah!
when Gorge Bush, a born again christian, used lies and deception to invade another country, throw 500lb bombs in residential areas,at the end of which an entire country is destroyed and more than 650,000 innocent Iraqi citizens perish for no crimes of their own, no one blames his religion.

i dont know if one of the requirements of being a christian is the ability to dodge the obvious and ignore a glaring truth right in your face. Frosbel will ignore facts like this plus the Inquisition and Crusades and claim that those guys are not true christians but anything the communist does reflects atheism as if politics is the same as a religious stance.

I dont blame them, if you can read all the atrocities of yahweh in the bible and still dodge them and believe yahweh is a good god, then your mind has been twisted to see anything anywhere that you want to see.

Selective blindness comes with religion, i believe.

frosbel: [size=20pt]GOD[/size]

yep that's it.

The non-existent daddy in the sky has so consumed the thought processes of atheists that they cannot function if he did not exist.

To say that GOD does not exist and yet spend your precious time discussing him is wildly hilarious

There's a difference between not believing in God and living in denial. Atheist really believes in God. The witness of God is in every man even in their conscience. But due to pain anger or dissaapointment in life a man tries to deny the existence of what he believes and knows inwardly by instinct. GOD IS.

all the fight against God existence is only proof. Something is biting on the inside. "I want my papa. If he's there's he should come for me"

Romans 1:19-21
For that which is known about God is evident to them and made plain in their inner consciousness, because God [Himself] has shown it to them.
20 For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made (His handiworks). So [men] are without excuse [altogether without any defense or justification],
21 Because when they knew and recognized Him as God, they did not honor and glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. But instead they became futile and godless in their thinking [with vain imaginings, foolish reasoning, and stupid speculations] and their senseless minds were darkened.

Logicboy03:
Now, lets look at the Islamic conquest in which over 12 million slaves were taken from Africa and thousands were killed in the name of Jihad and Allah.

12 million versus 140 million?
you,really wanna compare notes? seriously?

wiegraf:
Pathetic attempt to dodge the issue. What does the fact that they are dead have to do with atheism?

ATHEISTS KILLED THEM! all 148,000,000 of them

wiegraf: Thanks for pointing out the obvious. And this goes for any atheist/theist, not just these ones. Here's a nobel laureate in physics' take on the subject

"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

how come with all that all the top mass murderes are atheists?

Joagbaje:

There's a difference between not believing in God and living in denial. Atheist really believes in God. The witness of God is in every man even in their conscience. But due to pain anger or dissaapointment in life a man tries to deny the existence of what he believes and knows inwardly by instinct. GOD IS.

all the fight against God existence is only proof. Something is biting on the inside. "I want my papa. If he's there's he should come for me"

Romans 1:19-21
For that which is known about God is evident to them and made plain in their inner consciousness, because God [Himself] has shown it to them.
20 For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made (His handiworks). So [men] are without excuse [altogether without any defense or justification],
21 Because when they knew and recognized Him as God, they did not honor and glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. But instead they became futile and godless in their thinking [with vain imaginings, foolish reasoning, and stupid speculations] and their senseless minds were darkened.

I agree with you on this one.

All these are signs of the end. That's why you see people rejecting God and compaining that He doesn't want to help/save Christians from the hands of Boko Haram & other terrorist groups!

Matthew 24:8-13 All these [are] the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

The verses above clearly shows why & how some people will loose their faiths; hence their disbeliefs. Most of these atheists know deep down their hearts that God exists but because of false teachings & other things, they lose their faiths. All these are end times prophecy being fulfilled! Nothing more.

Paris-Love:

it don't matter how many cartoons you put up you aint gonna erase the memory of 148,000,000 lives wiped out in the last hundred years thanks to...you guessed it...atheists!

This is childish really, we should learn to take up this issue as it is. People are getting killed in a genocidal manner over a decade in months in some cases. trying to tie it to religion or non-religion is a non-issue. every time i come across this issue I'm convinced that arguing either side is merely an opportunistic way to tingle sensitive nerves. I'm convinced that any discussion of the religious causes of genocide is a divisive distraction from the more worthwhile investigation into the true cultural and psychological causes. We are human beings, and we need to understand our human motivations. "Guns don't kill people, People Kill People"

It makes no sense to participate in this childish debate of what religion has killed more people in history, because it doesn't matter. in like sense you can try to determine which T-shirt brand was worn most by the world's genocidal killers and draw similar casual conclusions there as well.

F00028:
ATHEISTS KILLED THEM! all 148,000,000 of them


how come with all that all the top mass murderes are atheists?

Here good ser, you've gone simple minded full ret.ard, in all its glory. A nice demonstration of how to shout LALALA. Instead of using caps lock and other silly tricks, could you please answer basic questions? Something an adult of sound mind should be able to do. Thank you

Did they, or did they not, kill them because of atheist doctrine?

Also, could you name the religions which these people killed in the name of?


If you can't answer these, then we probably need a primary school teacher to provide comprehension skills. That number is probably wrong as well, but it doesn't matter (to an atheist case) because NON of those people were killed in the name of atheism. NOBODY ever has. "I'm gonna kill you because no religion suggests I do?", do you understand your stoopid good ser? Where did the doctrine come from?

And no, being atheist did not somehow make them have a lesser moral code. Look up the HDI countries to aid your ignorance. Being communist/whatever did though.

Let's look at some basics obvious to anyone without brainwashing. Communists, and virtually all dictatorships actually, happened to dislike religion, or rather other independent churches, because of their political influence. Just like they dislike other political parties. Get rid of them and you have more power. This was only feasible at the turn of the century and only in certain places under somewhat unique conditions in their history, often including some considerable brutality. For instance, t probably wouldn't be possible in 9ja today due to the sheer amount abrahamic zombies we have. Think of saddam, he likely would have preferred to have gotten rid of other religions altogether in order to gain even more power, but the task proved nigh on impossible and he was only able to suppress it. He would then have diverted all that silly religious energy into, of course, his personality cult. In fact he did manage to divert a lot of it. Soon as he's gone, shiaa vs sunni nonsense. Our dear family in korea have more or else full success in that region, so that is an excellent example of a full blown dictatorship in tandem with a personality cult. Maximum power now gained to support their policies, no need to share power with a church. Iran is probably a nice illustration of church's influence over europe in earlier times, ayatollah vs president.

Nazi's and fascist both used religion (and borrowed anti-semitism from there of course) for instance, but both still committed atrocities. Their atrocities were driven more by their political ideologies though, now pushed as full blown religions. So they had to share some power with the church but hey, they didn't do too badly. Having religion did not stop them from doing bad things, in fact some would say it encouraged them considering anti-semitism (with some good clergy men taking pictures with nazis, the popes shenanigans, etc). Imagine if the nazis had achieved dominion over uneducated populations as large as russia's and china's? With significant economic problems no less. Religion or no, bad people are going to be bad. Well, actually, it usually requires religion to be that bad, just that in some cases god is replaced with the some other political force.

So again, enjoy the list I posted earlier of atrocities committed in the name of religions. In other words religious reasons being a primary factor (no such thing with atheism, sorry) including your dearly loved religion of piss

lagerwhenindoubt: This is childish really, we should learn to take up this issue as it is. People are getting killed in a genocidal manner over a decade in months in some cases. trying to tie it to religion or non-religion is a non-issue. every time i come across this issue I'm convinced that arguing either side is merely an opportunistic way to tingle sensitive nerves. I'm convinced that any discussion of the religious causes of genocide is a divisive distraction from the more worthwhile investigation into the true cultural and psychological causes. We are human beings, and we need to understand our human motivations. "Guns don't kill people, People Kill People"

It makes no sense to participate in this childish debate of what religion has killed more people in history, because it doesn't matter. in like sense you can try to determine which T-shirt brand was worn most by the world's genocidal killers and draw similar casual conclusions there as well.

Like you say, people need to be educated. Pointing out blind fanaticism sometimes requires a less than diplomatic approach.

wiegraf:

Here good ser, you've gone simple minded full ret.ard, in all its glory. A nice demonstration of how to shout LALALA. Instead of using caps lock and other silly tricks, could you please answer basic questions? Something an adult of sound mind should be able to do. Thank you

Did they, or did they not, kill them because of atheist doctrine?...

here's a word you should look up,
i r r e l e v a n t.

they are dead and atheist killed them!

if being an atheist doesn't stop you from becoming a mass murdering animal, stop pointing fingers at us Muslims.

mtcheeew!

buhahahhahhah frosbel beat e to it! Nice one there fros!

F00028:

here's a word you should look up,
i r r e l e v a n t.

they are dead and atheist killed them!

if being an atheist doesn't stop you from becoming a mass murdering animal, stop pointing fingers at us Muslims.

mtcheeew!

How is that irrelevant, oh ret.arded one?

And islam encourages you to be a douche, but you've missed that either because you're brainwashed, dishonest, stoopid etc, or a combo of all. Pointing that out was one of the main points of the posts. Mayhaps you'd like diagrams, pictures, or maybe a miracle or two to aid your comprehension problems?