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Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by solbil: 8:43pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
ocelot2006:some people will mention libya forgeting that gadafi purposely held down the strength of his military so much so that when the uprising started, it was sticks that the locals in benghazi used to chase out the soldiers. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by solbil: 9:17pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
@msauza, this thread isnt about naija/SA. Its about a report we are not suppose to take without careful analysis of facts. I first saw this report sometime ago and i cared less who wrote it. But i wast surprised when i learnt it was written by a ghanaian. These people actually wished they were in our shoes. Want to know why we get sooo offended when we hear other africans talk us down? We have giving so much to these people in cash and kind without taking anything in return. There is no country in africa especially sub saharan that we have not helped in a way or two. Even you country SA.we have never braged about it becos what we do, we do for gods sake. We are mentioning it now becos people just have this anti nigeria sentiment.when we are being hit, you are not going to expect us not to defend ourselves. SA is becoming more visible on the continent to day and thats a good thing! But with so much respect to all other africans, no one has given close to the 10bn dollar we have given from 1960-2010 and so many men we lost in the process! It is common knowledge that since the time of slavery, the black mans image was rubbished. But with our effort , at least, we have brought some sanity. Does this meanother africans are not doing anything? No! I know of what ugandans and burundi are doing in the horn. I also know of the botswanas and their exemplary govt. I know of thee SAs about what they are doing to bridge the gap between races. Bt if there is one who believes so much in the continent, its nigeria. We havelped others but have not recieved help from anyone yet. So you can understand it how we feel when when other africans want to look down at us. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by solbil: 9:27pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
@mzauza, BTW how did you get to know this website and this topic? Did you just stumble across it? Just curious. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by Msauza(m): 10:15pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
The Global Fire Power will be our only solution at this instance. It rates countries' firepower by its standing and ranking in the world and can be accessed at www.globalfirepower.com. Visit this website and surely will give you some light. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by Msauza(m): 10:32pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
solbil: @mzauza, BTW how did you get to know this website and this topic? Did you just stumble across it? Just curious.. @Solbil. I was born of a SA mother and Nigerian father. I have both or dual citizenship of SA and Nigeria, so I did not come to stumble to this forum by accident. It was suggested to me by my Nigerian friend, as I was always complaining about slow service delivery and infrastructural development in Nigeria as compared to South Africa. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by funkybaby(f): 10:34pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
bamosagie: Spot on !!! They should leave the Nigerian army out of any peace keeping operation. Troops from Ghana, Liberia and even Togo should be sent to get the job done. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by Msauza(m): 11:11pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
solbil: @msauza, this thread isnt about naija/SA. Its about a report we are not suppose to take without careful analysis of facts. I first saw this report sometime ago and i cared less who wrote it. But i wast surprised when i learnt it was written by a ghanaian. These people actually wished they were in our shoes.. Point of correction, Nigeria never helped South Africa by any means. This is just misconception that had been spinning around the heads of Nigerians for many years and this fallacy needs to be corrected. Remember that South Africa under apartheid was a wealthy nation that needed no any financial support from any country. Despite being sanctioned for many years, it continued to sustain itself by developing its own military weapons without importing any from other countries. In fact, SA under a white rule was more wealthier than it is today and was a dream land for every white people in the world. That's why many Jews, Greeks, English and Portuguese relocated to SA during this era as it was a land of milk and honey for white people. To be more exact, Nigeria financially helped the ANC(SA political party) across the borders, after it was banned by the SA apartheid government and having many of its members arrested for treason. ANC members outside the borders of SA needed financial support to cater for their day to day needs in order to keep the struggle going. They requested financial support from many countries including Nigeria and their main financial providers being Britain and Russian. Russia provided them military training while Britain educated many of them including Mbeki( the former SA president) and now AU chairlady Nkosazana Zuma. Just check the profiles of many SA ministers, majority of them are foreign educated while they were in exile. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by solbil: 11:19pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
Msauza: . @Solbil. I was born of a SA mother and Nigerian father. I have both or dual citizenship of SA and Nigeria, so I did not come to stumble to this forum by accident. It was suggested to me by my Nigerian friend, as I was always complaining about slow service delivery and infrastructural development in Nigeria as compared to South Africa.i have never been to SA before and i wouldnt mind to go there. But nigeria is one country you can be soo proud of. As for infrastructures, i dont know if you have been to nigeria before. But you can see "lagos ,nigeria. Africa you dont see on tv" on youtube. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by Msauza(m): 11:30pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
solbil: i have never been to SA before and i wouldnt mind to go there. But nigeria is one country you can be soo proud of. As for infrastructures, i dont know if you have been to nigeria before. But you can see "lagos ,nigeria. Africa you dont see on tv" on youtube.. Solbil, we used to visit my granny in Enugu a lot. I have been in Lagos, Onitsha , Abuja , and other small towns but none of those cities matched SA standard. I want to see Nigeria looking like SA, but in that case only time will tell. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by solbil: 11:36pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
Msauza: . Point of correction, Nigeria never helped South Africa by any means. This is just misconception that had been spinning around the heads of Nigerians for many years and this fallacy needs to be corrected. Remember that South Africa under apartheid was a wealthy nation that needed no any financial support from any country. Despite being sanctioned for many years, it continued to sustain itself by developing its own military weapons without importing any from other countries. In fact, SA under a white rule was more wealthier than it is today and was a dream land for every white people in the world. That's why many Jews, Greeks, English and Portuguese relocated to SA during this era as it was a land of milk and honey for white people. To be more exact, Nigeria financially helped the ANC(SA political party) across the borders, after it was banned by the SA apartheid government and having many of its members arrested for treason. ANC members outside the borders of SA needed financial support to cater for their day to day needs in order to keep the struggle going. They requested financial support from many countries including Nigeria and their main financial providers being Britain and Russian. Russia provided them military training while Britain educated many of them including Mbeki( the former SA president) and now AU chairlady Nkosazana Zuma. Just check the profiles of many SA ministers, majority of them are foreign educated while they were in exile.i give up |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by solbil: 11:39pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
Msauza: . Point of correction, Nigeria never helped South Africa by any means. This is just misconception that had been spinning around the heads of Nigerians for many years and this fallacy needs to be corrected. Remember that South Africa under apartheid was a wealthy nation that needed no any financial support from any country. Despite being sanctioned for many years, it continued to sustain itself by developing its own military weapons without importing any from other countries. In fact, SA under a white rule was more wealthier than it is today and was a dream land for every white people in the world. That's why many Jews, Greeks, English and Portuguese relocated to SA during this era as it was a land of milk and honey for white people. To be more exact, Nigeria financially helped the ANC(SA political party) across the borders, after it was banned by the SA apartheid government and having many of its members arrested for treason. ANC members outside the borders of SA needed financial support to cater for their day to day needs in order to keep the struggle going. They requested financial support from many countries including Nigeria and their main financial providers being Britain and Russian. Russia provided them military training while Britain educated many of them including Mbeki( the former SA president) and now AU chairlady Nkosazana Zuma. Just check the profiles of many SA ministers, majority of them are foreign educated while they were in exile.i give up. But pls know more about our role in you strugle. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by texazzpete(m): 6:53am On Nov 12, 2012 |
I AM TIRED OF THESE F00LS WHO WANT TO BURY THEIR HEAD IN THE SAND LIKE AN OSTRICH. ANSWER THIS SIMPLE QUESTION WHAT MAIN BATTLE TANK DOES THE NIGERIAN ARMY USE? WHEN WAS IT MADE? WHICH ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIERS DO WE USE? Simple questions, now provide an answer. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by ACM10: 7:31am On Nov 12, 2012 |
solbil: i give up. But pls know more about our role in you strugle.When and how did Nigeria help South Africa? Remember that South Africa built and dismantled a nuclear weapon. Nuclear weapon can never be built with a borrowed money. Did Nigeria offer SA financial help? If yes, can you provide evidence? Did Nigeria give SA military support? I will want to know the type of support which Nigeria gave to SA. Don't tell me that giving a partisan support to a political party can translate to helping the whole country. I'm waiting. . . |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by cutievik: 8:43am On Nov 12, 2012 |
I feel so hurt wen i see my fellow Nigerians look down on our dear armed forces,i would have layed facts on ground but let www.beegeagle.com do the job for me.thanks |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by ocelot2006(m): 10:00am On Nov 12, 2012 |
Msauza: . Point of correction, Nigeria never helped South Africa by any means. This is just misconception that had been spinning around the heads of Nigerians for many years and this fallacy needs to be corrected. Remember that South Africa under apartheid was a wealthy nation that needed no any financial support from any country. Despite being sanctioned for many years, it continued to sustain itself by developing its own military weapons without importing any from other countries. In fact, SA under a white rule was more wealthier than it is today and was a dream land for every white people in the world. That's why many Jews, Greeks, English and Portuguese relocated to SA during this era as it was a land of milk and honey for white people. To be more exact, Nigeria financially helped the ANC(SA political party) across the borders, after it was banned by the SA apartheid go Sooo...you're saying we never gave any support to the ANC during your struggle against the then Racist govt of South Africa? That Nigeria was not your MOST VOCAL supporter and staunch opponent of the Apertheid govt. of SA? Huh...then I guess Nelson Mandela's visit to Nigeria in the late 80s just after his release was just for show. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by ocelot2006(m): 11:49am On Nov 12, 2012 |
texazzpete: I AM TIRED OF THESE F00LS WHO WANT TO BURY THEIR HEAD IN THE SAND LIKE AN OSTRICH. Let's see... NIGERIAN ARMY Vickers MK3- 1978 (refurbished early 2000, current upgrades unkown) T-72- 1971 ('don't know the actual production that for Nigeria's own batch oh) T-55- AMX-30- 1963 NB- this list excludes light and recce vehicles like the Scorpion () and Scimitar (). Also excluded were self-propelled artillery vehicles like the Palmaria Self-propelled howitzer () and the ZSU-24 Shilka and the Roland SAM system using the AMX-30 chasis (1977) APCs Igirigi-2012 Turkish Otokar Kobra MRAP- 1997 140xMOWAG Piranha 6x6- MOWAG Grizzly- 1976 (first production date oh) 450xSteyr 4K7FA-1977 VBL All-Terrain Vehicle-?? BTR-60 8x8-1959 BTR-80UM 8x8-1986 BTR-3UK,3UR,3E- 2000 Engesa EE-11 Urutu-1960s/70s MT-LB-1970s Panhard M-3 APC- 1971 NIGERIAN POLICE FORCE (MOPOL+ATS) RG-31 Nyala MRAP- 2004 Casspire MK3 APC-1979/1980 Saxon APC-1983 Streit Spartan MK-III- 20?? Streit Cougar MK-III-20?? Streit Cougar MK-II-20?? Streit Cougar MK-2-20?? Streit Cougar MK-3- Hatehof Wolf APC-2006 Otokar Kobra-1997 |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by ocelot2006(m): 11:57am On Nov 12, 2012 |
Oh, I forgot to add the Nigerian Army's Oshkosh Sandcat APC (2005). Then there's the Streit Jaguar and Typhoon that we've developed keen interest in. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by Msauza(m): 12:45pm On Nov 12, 2012 |
ocelot2006:. You must take note that the whole world was against Apartheid SA, and not specifically Nigeria. Nelson Mandela immediately after his release visited many countries, majority of whom have supported ANC in exile. He visited among others Zambia in Lusaka, where the headquarters of ANC were situated, Tanzania, Botswana, Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Nigeria, etc , to give them words of thanks for their contribution in the struggle and for not shutting down their doors on giving their fellow brothers a refuge to stay. Had it not been for the black citizens of SA, particularly the youth, the struggle would have not been achieved. ANC in exile was almost inactive since it was very difficult to cross the security-tight borders into SA territory. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by ocelot2006(m): 12:56pm On Nov 12, 2012 |
Msauza: . You must take note that the whole world was against Apartheid SA, and not specifically Nigeria. Nelson Mandela immediately after his release visited many countries, majority of whom have supported ANC in exile. He visited among others Zambia in Lusaka, where the headquarters of ANC were situated, Tanzania, Botswana, Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Nigeria, etc , to give them words of thanks for their contribution in the struggle and for not shutting out their doors on giving their fellow brothers a refuge to stay. Had it not been for the black citizens of SA, particularly the youth, the struggle would have not been achieved. ANC in exile was almost inactive since it was very difficult to cross the security-tight borders into SA territory. Then why say that "Nigeria never helped South Africa by any means"? After all this nation had sacrificed for your own nation? As much as I don't want to belittle the struggle of your youth, do you really think you did all hard work? So who piled on the pressure on the foreign powers then? Who aided your ANC exiles in Zimbabwe while the South African govt hunted them down. We're not saying you should know-tow to us, but show a little gratitude. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by Msauza(m): 1:18pm On Nov 12, 2012 |
ocelot2006:. My dear friend, ANC is not South Africa and not everyone in SA support the ANC. The ANC is a political party and not a country. SA is a multi-party democracy and so you should understand that whoever wins the general elections rules the country. There is a difference between ANC and SA as a country. When days were dark for citizens of SA and when majority of youth were killed like cockroaches in a bloody 1976 Soweto massacre, nobody intervened not even the United Nations. They just never had as if they feared apartheid government as it was rumoured to be storing a lot of nuclear weapons that had the potential of destroying the planet. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by ocelot2006(m): 1:50pm On Nov 12, 2012 |
^^Lord! You black South Africans are nothing but ingrates!! Apart from the ANC, which other party played a major role in the struggle? With respect to the killings of blacks, what did you expect Nigeria to do? Invade South-Africa? But even the little, we did our very best. Throughout 70s and 80s, YOUR COUNTRY was one of the major focus of our foreign policy. Yet not even a damn thank you. 'guess now that everything's all well and good, you've developed some form of amnesia. Seriously, it's time Nigeria focuses of foreign policies that places sole priority on our own interest. The years of playing good samaritan and brother's-keeper are over. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by Msauza(m): 3:08pm On Nov 12, 2012 |
ocelot2006: ^^Lord! You black South Africans are nothing but ingrates!! Apart from the ANC,which other party played a major role in the struggle? With respect to the killings of blacks, what did you expect Nigeria to do? Invade South-Africa? But even the little, we did our very best. Throughout 70s and 80s, YOUR COUNTRY was one of the major focus of our foreign policy. Yet not even a damn thank you. 'guess now that everything's all well and good, you've developed some form of amnesia. Seriously, it's time Nigeria focuses of foreign policies that places sole priority on our own interest. The years of playing good samaritan and brother's-keeper are over.. There were many parties, majority of which were banished and that include PAC, AZAPO, SACP(formerly a whites party which merged with the ANC in exile), BCM and many others which dissolved before 1994. As for the good job that Nigeria does must continue to do it. My point is that there is no single country that can ever claim to have single handedly helped the ANC to topple the apartheid. The world helped ANC, from S. American countries, Europe, Africa and Asia even though at other times USA was a supporter of Apartheid SA. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by aduboy(m): 5:32pm On Nov 12, 2012 |
For anyone to come to this forum and talk about our military, I will advice the person to first enlist into the Nigerian military. In terms of basic military training, you can only compare Nigeria with Ukraine, Pakistan and India. That I score Nigeria 90%. In terms of equipment, we are just like any third world country as we use less precise hardware but what we have is still very effective. In terms of discipline, we can be scored 90% even above the western armies. Though a far cry from what was obtainable in the earlier days of our army. The whole world is failing in terms of discipline because of 'foolish' freedom. That's why its legal for American and western forces to be allowed to have sex with animals when on foreign mission and nobody terms that indiscipline. The only bad thing killing our army is politics and politicians infiltration, even religion has not been able to divide our army like it has done to our civil society. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by ACM10: 5:43pm On Nov 12, 2012 |
Msauza: . My dear friend, ANC is not South Africa and not everyone in SA support the ANC. The ANC is a political party and not a country. SA is a multi-party democracy and so you should understand that whoever wins the general elections rules the country. There is a difference between ANC and SA as a country. When days were dark for citizens of SA and when majority of youth were killed like cockroaches in a bloody 1976 Soweto massacre, nobody intervened not even the United Nations. They just never had as if they feared apartheid government as it was rumoured to be storing a lot of nuclear weapons that had the potential of destroying the planet.My brother, it's no rumour. SA built several nuclear warheads at the height of apartheid. They dismantled it under pressure from US and its NATO allies in exchange for support and improved relation. No sane country dare invade SA during the apartheid regime. Moreover, many of SA's nuclear scientists are still alive. Some were even implicated by the CIA for revealing the nuclear secrets to North Korea. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by solbil: 8:03pm On Nov 12, 2012 |
its like all msauza knows about naija is the stereotype and nonsense he hears and sees on tv. So he is no longer proud of his country (according to him). But let me tell you; NIGERIA is by far bigger than you think. Our greatness did not come at the amalgamation or independence. It dates back into pre colonial times. We are home to several empires, kingdoms and republic civilizations that have proved the bias european explorers wrong about their notion of the black man. From Oyo to benin, Ife, sokoto caliphate, kanem bornu to the jukun, igala and nupe kingdoms, we have proved that the black man is not a "10 year old european only dirtier" but a man capable of something so sublime and aesthetic in philosophy, art, agriculture, government, religion, science and technology. I simply do not have the time to continue to tell you of our great ness you just pick up materials and do a lil bit of edu then come to realise that we are not just "number" like you all claim we are but that we are truely a giant! I know you wish it wasnt so. But it is true. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by solbil: 8:53pm On Nov 12, 2012 |
msauza knows nothing about our support for the ANCs and black people in SA. He doest know we gave scholarship to black SAs to study in our federal govt colleges and unis. He deosnt know that we employed your professors in our unis. He doesnt know that civil servants salaries were cut so that money could be donated into your strugles. We did all these yet he calls our support "partisan". Msauza, what you have done is unaceptable level of ungreatfulness. You claim our support is for the ANC like the struggle against apartheid is not to the benefit of all SAs, blacks, whites, indians alike. |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by Msauza(m): 6:15am On Nov 13, 2012 |
solbil: msauza knows nothing about our support for the ANCs and black people in SA. He doest know we gave scholarship to black SAs to study in our federal govt colleges and unis. He deosnt know that we employed your professors in our unis. He doesnt know that civil servants salaries were cut so that money could be donated into your strugles. We did all these yet he calls our support "partisan". Msauza, what you have done is unaceptable level of ungreatfulness.. Let me first start to tell you that my dad is a prof in one of the biggest and reputable universities in SA. He specialises in Economics and Public Administration, and he holds MBA as well. As for me, am a candidate attorney practising under an experienced group of white SA attorneys. One of the disciplines that I would like to study further after my admission in the High court as an attorney is Military law. I love Nigeria a lot, but have one problem though that even my father admit that when Nigeria is facing challenges, unlike South Africans ordinary citizens of Nigeria fail to admit that they are in crisis. Instead of debating constructively with facts, they turn to play so defensive by telling the world that they are the giants of Afica and are immune to social problems. That time of playing big is over, many countries in Africa are making a big progress and by the time you smell the coffee it would have already been over. Many countries are refurbishing their Armies with new technology and since when was the last time did Nigeria enter into an Arms Deal to replenish their dinosaurs kind of weapons in the Army. The weapons that they are using are old fashioned and remember that a war cannot be won by just a mere numbers, but the kind of technology you are using. We have to admit the NAF as well is in crisis as compared to other Air Force of other countries, let alone the fact that it is not even recognised around the world. Nigeria needs a change, we need to call for a revolution, but the problem is many of them lack political education. 1 Like |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by Msauza(m): 6:41am On Nov 13, 2012 |
solbil: msauza knows nothing about our support for the ANCs and black people in SA. He doest know we gave scholarship to black SAs to study in our federal govt colleges and unis. He deosnt know that we employed your professors in our unis. He doesnt know that civil servants salaries were cut so that money could be donated into your strugles. We did all these yet he calls our support "partisan". Msauza, what you have done is unaceptable level of ungreatfulness.. One question though, what if the Democratic Alliance (DA) wins majority polls in the general elections of SA? Do you know that the DA poses a big threat to the ANC? I wonder after the DA rule SA, will the likes of Nigeria ever sing the song "We did this and that" to SA. 1 Like |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by Madawaki01(m): 7:59am On Nov 13, 2012 |
The foregoing refers. Going into Mali, the core requirement is for troops who are trained in Counterterrorism, Counterinsurgency and Desert Warfare. Against the backdrop of the fact that unlike no time before in its history, the Nigerian Army are currently churning out CTCOIN- biased troops, the report which was scripted by Afua Hirsch was calculated to defame and to mislead. * In 2012 alone, the Nigerian Army have trained over 8,000 troops in the RELEVANT counterinsurgency and counterterrorism skills of Close Quarter Combat, Fighting In Built-Up Areas, IED/Ambush Defeat, Hostage Rescue, House Clearing and trained combat engineers and K 9(War Dog) teams, both at home and in the United States of America. As we write this, another batch of 1,500 troops are undegoing training in the same arts at the all-new Nigerian Army Training Centre, ensuring that within the next few weeks, the total number of CTCOIN-biased troops trained in this one year alone would rise to 9,500 officers and men. Afua Hirsch’s article becomes even more laughable against the backdrop of the fact that as recently as October 1st, the Nigerian Army commissioned a new 176 Special Forces Battalion. That would complement the older 72 Special Forces Battalion which has been in existence for a few years now and has already seen action in the Niger Delta and in our War on Terror. This is to say that by the end of this month, the Nigerian Army should be in a position to say that they have put together enough Special Operations Forces and CTCOIN-biased troops to form an army division. More importantly, they have been inducted into battle, gaining relevant combat experience in the process. Even if ECOWAS decide to send in 4,000 troops to Mali with Nigeria making up half of that number, how can a Nigeria with that number of troops (11,000) with tailor-made skills and experience applicable to the Malian situation be objectively assessed by any journalist worth his onions, as not having the men with the requisite skills sets? The Nigerian Armed Forces similarly undertake mandatory desert warfare field training – the geographical imperative for operating in Mali. See FOOTNOTES in the comments section to judge for yourself. Concerning KITTING, there is nothing else to do than follow up the obtuse claims advanced by Afua Hirsch by showing photographs of the troops who are currently leading the War on Terror at this time inside Nigeria and from whose ranks the troops who shall be going to Mali will be drafted. Photographs presumably are still worth a thousand words. It is instructive to note that the ONLY factory which manufactures night vision goggles and bulletproof vests anywhere in West, East or Central Africa was commissioned this year, a joint venture between Isreali firm MAROM DOLPHIN and the Defence Industries Corporation of Nigeria. What other items do we need going into Mali? For goodness sake, we even now produce Night Vision Goggles (essential for CTCOIN operations) and bulletproof jackets in Nigeria. So what was she saying about kitting? |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by Madawaki01(m): 7:59am On Nov 13, 2012 |
The foregoing refers. Going into Mali, the core requirement is for troops who are trained in Counterterrorism, Counterinsurgency and Desert Warfare. Against the backdrop of the fact that unlike no time before in its history, the Nigerian Army are currently churning out CTCOIN- biased troops, the report which was scripted by Afua Hirsch was calculated to defame and to mislead. * In 2012 alone, the Nigerian Army have trained over 8,000 troops in the RELEVANT counterinsurgency and counterterrorism skills of Close Quarter Combat, Fighting In Built-Up Areas, IED/Ambush Defeat, Hostage Rescue, House Clearing and trained combat engineers and K 9(War Dog) teams, both at home and in the United States of America. As we write this, another batch of 1,500 troops are undegoing training in the same arts at the all-new Nigerian Army Training Centre, ensuring that within the next few weeks, the total number of CTCOIN-biased troops trained in this one year alone would rise to 9,500 officers and men. Afua Hirsch’s article becomes even more laughable against the backdrop of the fact that as recently as October 1st, the Nigerian Army commissioned a new 176 Special Forces Battalion. That would complement the older 72 Special Forces Battalion which has been in existence for a few years now and has already seen action in the Niger Delta and in our War on Terror. This is to say that by the end of this month, the Nigerian Army should be in a position to say that they have put together enough Special Operations Forces and CTCOIN-biased troops to form an army division. More importantly, they have been inducted into battle, gaining relevant combat experience in the process. Even if ECOWAS decide to send in 4,000 troops to Mali with Nigeria making up half of that number, how can a Nigeria with that number of troops (11,000) with tailor-made skills and experience applicable to the Malian situation be objectively assessed by any journalist worth his onions, as not having the men with the requisite skills sets? The Nigerian Armed Forces similarly undertake mandatory desert warfare field training – the geographical imperative for operating in Mali. See FOOTNOTES in the comments section to judge for yourself. Concerning KITTING, there is nothing else to do than follow up the obtuse claims advanced by Afua Hirsch by showing photographs of the troops who are currently leading the War on Terror at this time inside Nigeria and from whose ranks the troops who shall be going to Mali will be drafted. Photographs presumably are still worth a thousand words. It is instructive to note that the ONLY factory which manufactures night vision goggles and bulletproof vests anywhere in West, East or Central Africa was commissioned this year, a joint venture between Isreali firm MAROM DOLPHIN and the Defence Industries Corporation of Nigeria. What other items do we need going into Mali? For goodness sake, we even now produce Night Vision Goggles (essential for CTCOIN operations) and bulletproof jackets in Nigeria. So what was she saying about kitting? |
Re: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by solbil: 8:09am On Nov 13, 2012 |
@msauza, no one is living in denial. You dont live in the country so you dont know how unpopular the nigeria state is among nigerians. I tell you; NO ONE in nigeria will tell you we are a giant. Its only few of us. This is somethingyou can even verify on this site. You have people come here and call nigeria names like shithole etc. Listen to the bbcs programme on our 50th independence anniversary, and come to see that nigerians are completely broken. Listen to the radio and hear every one talk about situation of things. No one is inspired at all. I am not exaggerating. I really have to end it here becos this is becoming toxic for me. So bye. |
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