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Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by Nobody: 8:47pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
sleekdot: How come you are taking panadol for someone elses headache Yes o,people should take care of their erosion laden lands of the East rather than worry about regionalism ]Residents of Juba Street, Egbe-Idimu,in the Alimosho Local Government Area of Lagos State have raised the alarm over the threat of gully erosion in the area. The residents, in separate interviews with the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN), said large holes are now the effects of the abandoned drainage project in the area. http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/community-news/28872-egbe-idimu-residents-seek-lagos-assistance-on-erosion The erosion at the foot of a bridge linking Bariga with the Third Mainland Bridge has assumed a worrisome state, PUNCH Metro investigation has revealed. Our correspondent learnt from residents of the area that the rate at which the bridge was being eroded started after the concrete on the side of the bridge broke off about three years ago. The eroded point is a part made up of only tar and soil at the Oworonsoki end of the bridge. When our correspondent visited the area, it was noticed that the erosion had gradually eaten into the bridge up to four feet, threatening to break it in two. http://www.punchng.com/metro/erosion-threatens-lagos-bridge/ ]Residents of Oyo town have for the umpteen time called on the state and Oyo West Local governments to rehabilitate Isokun/ Idigedu/Irepo road. This is because a portion of the road at Idigedu point has become a death trap, as it has been eaten up by erosion, thus creating a very big pothole. The road leads to Ibadan, Oke-ogun areas , as well as serves as main route for workers of some government establishments in the ancient town [/color] http://www.compassnewspaper.org/index.php/news/nigeria-today/9188-again-oyo-residents-lament-state-of-roads-disrepair Wrong posts pardon me 2 Likes |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by manny4life(m): 8:49pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
7lives: I thought the Igbos want Biafra nation, why regionalism again. Anyway let the Igbos learn to speak with one voice first, then they can sell regionalism and expect others to buy. If Nigeria cannot give us Biafra nation, we have the right to request for regionalism. I'm all for regional control and power - dissolving the power at the center. The Igbo's spoke with one voice when they came together for a common good, draft their opinions on Nigeria, which was submitted to NASS. Can you achieve all of these in a chaotic voice? NOPE... Others have better things to do, YET, yall will be the first to throw words at president. Well they should have things to do, don't put blames on anyone--- simple, short, eod. |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by Demdem(m): 8:53pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
i have no confidence in the present constitutional amendment process currently going on in the NASS. i see it as another avenue for them to simply go round the country and spread cash around, come back to Abuja and do as they deem fit. Anyone who think that this present NASS will one day wake up after all deliberations, scrap states, distort the present status quo and lead us to the path of regionalism is just living in a fool's paradise. In my opinion, only an SNC can give such and that is what i believe we all should stand for. before now they gave the foolish impression that they will create more states, those desirous of more states started lobbying, sending their presentations to Abuja and of recent Ekeremadu gave a bombshell about states creation. As good as the Ndigbo presentation may sound, i dont think anything will be done about it. besides its not in the interest of the killer party to have such. 2 Likes |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by gbanikiti(m): 8:53pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
manny4life:abeg help me tell them! Make I hear any person wey go come nairaland dey shout and make noise say make igbo people comot for lagos. Ara ga agba onye ahu! |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by veraponpo(m): 8:56pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
ndu_chucks: It is obvious you have a biased mind against Tinubu because ab initio how does Ohanese issue concern Tinubu, a party leader. I think u shld be comparing Apga with ACN and not Ohaneze with ACN or didnt u learn collection of like terms in JSS class in school? Besides, before you people woke up, Yoruba has gone and that is our secret. You can never beat the reach- First TV in Africa, first University in Nigeria, First International stadium,first regional university, and now first light rail in Nigeria. Dey there waiting for ACN,Yoruba,Afenifere,etc while your governors are busy slapping one another, APGA members are ready to expose the killers of Ojukwu (who died of stroke), Ojukwu's family are busy fighting over property, Biafran activists are in police custody, eyin arindin, oponun ayirada. Yio ba ipori mopopo awoin iyalaya e. 8 Likes |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by Ufeolorun(m): 8:56pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
ACN should not agree to the six states basis for regionalism,rights should be given to states to merge as they deem necessary. We could still add states like kwara,kogi,Niger to our fold. Tinubu and his friends have shown they like talking more than acting anyway. |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by Katsumoto: 8:58pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
manny4life: So only the leaders of the SW did not put forward a proposal demanding federalism? Your post betrays a bias against the SW. Why didn't you include the leaders of the other 4 regions? Or was it not only Ohanezee that submitted the proposal for federalism? The same Ohanezee that is also asking for state creation at the same time. |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by malele(m): 9:00pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
Baby mama: That's why we need fedralism, so that we can use our resources to fix our roads since th FG prefers paying the money to tinubu to throw parties and block roads. |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by seunfly: 9:01pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
When did they say that they did not want regionalism? Who started regionalism in this 4th republic? Which group out of all the regional blocks has moved toward regional integration? So because some group made one sensible noice today has make better than those that has been talking since? Can you sincierly go back to all the files about regional integration in Nigeria and see which group has contributed more? My brother let us shone this ethnical exonoration, hatred, hate campaign, we better than syndrome and ethnical fault finding. This will lead us no where, we are have been doing this since independent and it took us backward let stop it in our generation. Thank you! |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by owobokiri(m): 9:02pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
Katsumoto: I am being brutally frank and realistic here. It is called diplomacy. Southerners should take this seriously. We have had, Afonja, Akintola, Awolowo, Obasanjo, Diya and now Tinubu. At different stages, these characters have led the west to pursue goals that contradicts the aspirations of other parts of the south. There must be a reason for this. Oil? Let the SE and SS promise the SW some oil wells or some sort constant supply of cheap oil. The SW is busy opposing more resource control allocations to the oil producing states while ACN works hard to unleash a northern agenda in Nigeria. Enough of this. If you want another emir in Lagos as you already have in Ilorin, do so but spare the rest of the south. We can do without this primitive brand of amala politics. |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by Wallie(m): 9:03pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
I think the problem with some people on NL is that they do not realize that personal attacks detract from the substance of their arguments. The intention of the OP is very noble and even the link it carried contained positive concrete amendments that could be made to the constitution to move Nigeria forward. But the OP's shortsightedness is leading this thread down a hole that shouldn't even be in one's purview! This is a great topic that should be debated and ideas forwarded, now we're stuck with another negative SE vs SW thread! Someday, you guys will realize who the real enemies are and how they’re perfectly happy to see the in-fighting as it takes the focus away from them! 1 Like |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by manny4life(m): 9:04pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
Katsumoto: Bros, is Yoruba not one of the three major tribes? YES or NO? How can you be claiming "MAJOR" when you're not acting like one? The Northern group have submitted their own opinions, though not elaborated like Igbo did, I'm yet to see a STRONG supporting or dissenting opinion from the SW regarding Nigeria's future. If they have, then I may be incorrect and I'll admit, till then... Nah man, it ain't working. According to the document, he stated that state creation should be left to the states, unless you're referring to an unrelated issue. As for the leaders of the other three, though some regard them as minority, (I many be wrong), but when the majors lead, other will follow. |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by Demdem(m): 9:07pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
seunfly: When did they say that they did not want regionalism? Who starts regionalism in this 4th republic? Which group out of all the regional blocks has moved toward regional integration? So because some group made one sensible noice today has make better than those that has been talking since? Can you sincierly go back to all the files about regional integration in Nigeria and see which group has contributed more? i agree with u on this. tinubu and his ACN peeps have been forthcoming before now in their desire to be able to control their resources and tend to favour policies that will bring about regional integration. |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by Demdem(m): 9:09pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
owobokiri: Kindly substantiate this claim of urs pls. |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by Katsumoto: 9:10pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
owobokiri: First, So Afonja betrayed his Alaafin because of Oil? How did Akintola and Diya (who I detest by the way) betray the SW because of oil? Second, you were expecting SW leaders to act in a manner beneficial to other parts of the South when it would have been detrimental to their own constituents? Third, What is the Northern agenda that the ACN is working on? Fourth, please provide references or links to the proposals submitted by South South leaders, after all the oil you so revere sits with them. Or Ohanezee now represents the South South as well? Your comments betray you as someone who spends his time gathering information from beer parlours. 5 Likes |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by Nobody: 9:18pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
manny4life: Let's not flog the issue any further - the SW is obviously not ready to move forward. This is same behavior holding Nigeria behind. Nigerian union is falling on it's knees and these folks think it's cool to be quiet? Anyway, I'm not surprised, people whom I thought claimed to be forerunners are actually opposite. How do you mean? - this is politics and it's better to look before you leap, before taking a definitive stand... The SW doesn't need to rush forward with a blueprint like Ohaneze, since it has started implementing regional integration in its region... Ohaneze on the other hand is clamouring for regionalism and at the same time asking for more states... Things of this nature needs to be well thought through before taking a final stand... I still don't believe regionalism with the same status quo in place, is the right answer. We need the devolution of power from the center first before anything else... |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by Katsumoto: 9:19pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
Wallie: I think the problem with some people on NL is that they do not realize that personal attacks detract from the substance of their arguments. The intention of the OP is very noble and even the link it carried contained positive concrete amendments that could be made to the constitution to move Nigeria forward. I was equally expecting a nice debate on the subject but as soon as most read the article, the 'rational' thing for them to do was attack the SW. |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by sleekdot(m): 9:19pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
malele: We have Omoniles in Port harcourt and Onitsha, We dont see it in SS and SE I guess Port Harcourt and Onitsha are now in Morth west Bloody liar
http://nigeriaworld.com/articles/2007/oct/161.html |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by nduchucks: 9:20pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
Demdem: The above is one of the reasons why I am very disappointed and actually angry with Tinubu and his ACN peeps. They have been screaming Regional Integration in a manner which would make one to expect them to take the lead in promoting Regionalism and Federalism through constitutional amendments, but they have been very silent on the matter. This is what made me question the seriousness and motives of their wishes for regional integration. I submit that if the opposition, lead by Tinubu's ACN, puts its resources into lobbying for regionalism as outlined by Ohaneze, and bring the masses along, we will indeed see changes sooner rather than later. |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by SamAfrik(m): 9:22pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
I wonder if some pple think at all b4 talking. Who says d SW doesnt want restructring. Just because d SE is waking up now doesnt mean d SW has nt been active. Creation of states has affectd SW devpt more than any region. @ sleekdot u just got urself a fan. |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by seunfly: 9:28pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
Wallie: I think the problem with some people on NL is that they do not realize that personal attacks detract from the substance of their arguments.I think Nairaland moderators are to be blame for this, they tend to promote any thread that will lead to direct attark on Nigerian parsonalties (well they may deserve it) and ethnical fighting or hatred to the frontpage, this has entered into peaples blood. Op could have framed the topic in a sensible ways that will lead to good debate, but how will it make front page if it is not like that. I have even see modrator reframed thread tittle for it to lead to direct attark on somebody and pitch north against south here on nairaland. I belive another thread that convey thesame message in with sensible tittle is existing but it is suffering somewhare due to lack of promotion. |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by manny4life(m): 9:28pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
shymexx: Mr. Shymexx, I have no issues with the SW, heck, I don't engage in tribal bashing as Katsumoto stated that I took a shot. Politics is about treading carefully, we all get it, but at what expense? To what extent? The fight for the survival of Nigeria has to begin to with all major tribes, so my question is, isn't it more than enough time to take a stand? Hypothetically, if war broke out today, will it take the six regions months to take a stand? No one is stating they have to join or create a blueprint like that of Ohaneze, my own point is, I'm yet to see a supporting or dissenting opinion about the future of Nigeria. Regionalism and states creation are two different things altogether - based on the cotext they talked about it. There's no fine line of whether or not it's acceptable, though I'll stick with regionalism any day than state creation. So the question remains, if regionalism isn't, what gives? I believe in regionalism because according to Ohaneze blueprint, each region will have their own constitution, et al, let the people at different grassroots levels determine what works for them. Let Nigerian Constitution guide Nigeria in terms of defense, monetary and foreign policy etc... @Katsumoto, there was NEVER an ill intention to take a shot at SW, but I'm ONLY expressing my view on how I saw it - FACE VALUE. |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by takedat(m): 9:34pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
This obsession from outsiders with how the SW manages its affair is becoming worrisome. The Op in outlining his points took the ACN and its leaders as the sole mouthpiece for the SW whereas there are traditional institutions, pan yoruba groups such as Afenifere who all have a say in how the region should control its affairs. Constitutional amendment hearing is an on going process, that the SW is yet to make its proposal does not mean it won't. |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by OkparaIgbo: 9:34pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
I read an article here today or a few days ago regarding the current concurrent striking in Europe and the question on so many people's lips were why Nigeria a worse of country would be suffering and smiling instead of sticking together and being a force that the current system would reckon with and although I felt the same desire, I quickly left the thread because the answer to that question remains the same THE YOROBER FOLKS OR SHOULD I SAY THE SOUTH WEST REGION Now before you start vomiting insults that will only affect you and your linage let me explain why and any reasonable person will agree with me on this. Right from 1967 during the Biafra war, the case of being lukewarm and sly has always fallen on the yorober folks and that was what lead to the war in the first place. Issue of not calling a spade a spade and trying to be slimy and stick in the middle (I wonder if it is fear that breeds this ). Ok now after the war, it was this same yorober man that insisted on the £20 for all Biafran's irrespective of what you had before the war to impoverish the Igbo's but Glory be to God that the Igbo's are more than a hand-full and can't be subdued like the Israelites Now it is clear that Nigeria is falling to pieces and we need to call a Sovereign National Conference to decide our fate and either split or go back to the Regional form of leadership that obviously worked in the past, and whilst the Northerners. THE South Easterners and South Southerners have all called for SNC, We are yet to hear a twitch from our sly and corny neighbours (The Yorobers ) rather all we hear is castigations of the current presidency and you wonder why you were left on your own during the fuel subsidy. Call me Tribalist or what have you, thats your cup of hot water but sometimes the truth must be told for posterity sake. I hope the young Yorober folks wise up and sit up if not a time will come when every region will say Enough is Enough and descend on you lot. 1 Like |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by jjctonl: 9:40pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
[img]The Yoruba’s push for regional autonomy Musliudeen Adebayo | Sep 11, 2012 | 0 comments inShare Cross-section of participants at the meeting Prominent Yoruba leaders recently converged on Ibadan, Oyo state, to share thoughts on the destiny of the tribe. At the end of the meeting, they resolved to support the call for a regional system of government as a way out of the present woes bedeviling the country. MUSLIUDEEN ADEBAYO reports Eminent Yoruba leaders from all walks of life recently gathered at the parliament building in Ibadan, the Oyo state capital, to brainstorm and to find solutions to key issues affecting the race in particular and Nigeria as a whole. The building, according to history, was the first of its kind in Nigeria, as it had in the past played host to several conferences and motions that shaped the fortune of the region and Nigeria as a whole; politically, economically socially and culturally. From left: Former Ogun state governor, Aremo Olusegun Osoba, ex-Speaker, House of Representatives, Hon. Dimeji Bankole, and Senator Olorunnibe Mamora, exchanging pleasantries at the event The occasion which was the maiden edition tagged Yoruba Assembly, organised by a group called Yoruba National Assembly has General Alani Ipoola Akinrinade (rtd) as its convener. Attendance It had in attendance traditional rulers, serving and past state governors and their deputies, past members of the National Assembly, captains of industry, legal luminaries, members of the academia, professionals, social political groups and students both within and outside the present day South-west Nigeria (Oyo, Osun, Ondo, Ekiti and Ogun states) and parts of Kwara, Edo, Delta, Itsekiri both home and in the Diaspora. Among those who graced the occasion were former military governor of Western Region, General Adeyinka Adebayo, who was represented by Dr. Dejo Raimi; a former Secretary to Oyo State Government, former governors of Osun, Ekiti, Ogun and Oyo states, Chief Bisi Akande, who is also the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) National Chairman, Chief Adeniyi Adebayo, Chief Olusegun Osoba and Alhaji Lamidi Adesina, respectively. Also in attendance were Governor Rauf Aregbesola of Osun State, his deputy, Mrs. Titilayo Laoye Tomori, and Chief of Staff, Alhaji Gboyega Isiaka, deputy governor of Ogun state, Chief Segun Adesegun, who sat for Governor Ibikunle Amosun, Delta state Commissioner for Health; Dr. Joseph Otuamara, who represented the governor, Dr. Emmanuel Uduaghan, and deputy governor of Oyo state, Hon. Moses Adeyemo Alake. The roll call also included Oluwarotimi Akeredolu (SAN); ACN governorship candidate in Ondo State, OPC founder, Dr. Fredrick Fasehun, Chief Michael Adeojo; Senators Olorunnibe Mamora, Babafemi Ojudu and Ajayi Robert Borofice. Also Otunba Dele Ajomole; ACN chair in Lagos State, Hon. Rotimi Makinde, Hon. Babatunde Oduyoye, Vice Chancellor Ekiti State University; Pro. Dipo Aina, Alagba Adebayo Faleti also made the list. From the royal circle were the Olubadanof Ibadanland represented by a high chief from the city, (Oyo) Akran of Badagri, (Lagos) Olufi of Gbongan, Orangun of Ila, Ataoja of Osogbo, (Osun)Deji of Akure, (Ondo) and the Elekole of Ikole (Ekiti), among others monarchs. The task The assembly’s task, according to Akinrinade, is to interrogate various issues that are affecting the race and find solutions to them accordingly. This position was corroborated by a communiqué issued at the end of the parley. Participants at the end of deliberation agreed on the need for real federal system and regional autonomy that would l give room for creation of states police and constitution amendment. They also advocated open secret ballot system, decentralization of powers at the centre to give more powers to states, rights to free education, and formal roles for traditional institution in the constitution among others. The retired General who read the position of the group to journalists, also noted that the region was not alone in its clamours, saying regional autonomy remained the answer to the region and Nigeria’s woes. This, according to him, would provide right to free education for all and equal political and economic rights for all. The former army chief believed that with regional autonomy, the country could still experience the good old days of the 1960s. Justifying the wisdom in the group’s position, participants observed that most edifices and structures such as Western Nigeria Television (WNTV, now NTA Ibadan) which is the first in Africa, first state secretariat Ibadan, first House of Assembly in Nigeria Ibadan, Cocoa House Ibadan, Liberty Stadium (now Obafemi Awolowo stadium), OAU Ile- Ife, which were legacies of the region today, were products of the defunct Western Region government during the days of late Chief Obafemi Awolowo and late Samuel Akintola. He advocated a true federal system of government that would give little power to the centre and more to the states, saying it was only through that genuine development could be achieved in the areas of power generation, security, employment creation, and rail system, among others. Bankole cautions But a former Speaker, House of Representatives, Hon. Dimeji Bankole, cautioned against calls for regional or ethnic centred government that may disintegrate the country. Bankole who urged people of the region to unite irrespective of political, social or economic ideologies however assured that the race would always support any plan to move the country forward. Governors support move Speaking through their Oyo state counterpart, Senator Abiola Ajimobi, governors from the region also keyed into the call for state police, explaining that when created, the state police would not have to wait on the federal government to tackle certain security challenges peculiar to their environment. Ajimobi similarly called for the amendment of 1999 constitution to give more powers to the centre. Other presentations In her remark, Speaker of Oyo state House of Assembly, Hon. Monsurat Sunmonu, also assured that leaders in the region would continue to strive towards the unity of the race. She specifically called for the support of women in politics and other areas to make them relevant and to contribute their own quota to the development of the country at large. Also in a presentation titled Ibi awi la de yi o (this is the foretold destination), a university don, Dr. Dipo Famakinwa, noted that the true federalism would give room for regional government to fully operate. While rallying support for regionalism, he submitted that this would enhance healthy rivalry among various groups in the region, promotion of equal rights for all, security of lives and property, internal democracy, education for all, accountability and transparency. Speaking in a similar vein, Chief Adeniyi Akintola (SAN) described Yorubas as people of uncommon peculiarities, culture, heritage, language and skills. Akintola who decried the marginalisation of Yorubas in the federal structure, also tasked south-west governors and other personalities in the region to rise up and stem the tide. The Ibadan born legal luminary, who noted that Yorubas constitute about 40% of the Nigerian population, said it was worrisome that the region was marginalized in judiciary, customs, immigration, INEC, and other federal agencies. Akintola, who also flayed the concentration of powers at the centre, said 68 items were on the exclusive legislative list while only 12 were on the concurrent legislative list, thus making it difficult for state governors to execute some developmental projects in the areas of power generation and rail system, among others. The legal luminary also berated the existing presidential system of government, describing it as being too expensive and encouraging corruption. Other presentations came from Mrs Bisi Abiola, a wife of the late Bashorun MKO Abiola (winner of the annulled June 12 1993 presidential election), the Yoruba Foundation United Kingdom, and various other groups. For the Yorubas in Kwara, Kogi, Edo, and Delta states, they wanted a system that would unite them with their kith and kin (Yorubas) of the present day South-west Nigeria. They faulted several state creation exercises that tore them off from their ancestors, thus leaving them permanently marginalized in their present states. From the above, it is clear that the call for regionalism was overwhelming, making Bankole a lone ranger. But how does the region really hope to achieve its set goal? Filed Under: Nation Tags: Autonomy, Politics, South West Nigeria, Yoruba[/img] 3 Likes |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by Katsumoto: 9:44pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
OkparaIgbo: I read an article here today or a few days ago regarding the current concurrent striking in Europe and the question on so many people's lips were why Nigeria a worse of country would be suffering and smiling instead of sticking together and being a force that the current system would reckon with and although I felt the same desire, I quickly left the thread because the answer to that question remains the same THE YOROBER FOLKS OR SHOULD I SAY THE SOUTH WEST REGION Your being a tribalist is not really an issue, it is that you are daft and ignorant. That is the main issue. Was it the 'yorober' folks that pushed Ndigbo into fighting a war? You have all kinds of new IDs springing up each day; why do these folks need to keep re-inventing themselves? Changing IDs will not solve problems of being ignorant and daft. 4 Likes |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by OkparaIgbo: 9:50pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
Katsumoto: Coming from a Supposed Nigerian that thinks he is Japanese Dude go and rest. You are the epitome of Foolishness (actually let me come down to your level mumurism) . Yes it was the sly and corny nature of the yorobbers that kept silent in the midst of the masacre of the easterners that was going on in the North that led to the secession bid and the war became brutal to all when youR scared backside decided to run into your rocks and leave the easterners to fight it alone. I recommend There was a country to you son. You better wise up yorober boy 6 Likes |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by jjctonl: 9:50pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
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Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by Katsumoto: 9:52pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
Ndigbo Should Get New State & Fulfillment Of Jonathan’s Promises First, Or… – Dr Dozie Ikedife, Ohaneze Chief http://247ureports.com/south-east-should-get-new-state-and-fulfillment-of-jonathan-2011-promises-first-or-dr-dozie-ikedife-ohaneze-chief/ How can an organisation be asking for regional autonomy and state creation at the same time? Does it not amount to not knowing what to ask for? If you get federalism, then state creation becomes irrelevant. But as long as you ask for state creation and those in Abuja agree to it, in a bid to avoid devolving power, then your primary and more important proposal becomes redundant. Is the PDP not pushing ahead with state creation simply becomes it wants to defeat the agitation for federalism? 1 Like |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by OkparaIgbo: 9:54pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
jjc-to-nl: Since the days of Elijah we have always known the yorober folks to only mouth off with little or No action to back it up. I have no issue with regards to calling or supposedly supporting Regionalism, however the problem lies in after the meeting and owambe party then what next. Did you see the examples Ohaneze NdiIgbo has shown. Now bring me any document about the yorobers doing the same and I will openly appologise to this forum as No man is an island |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by Katsumoto: 9:55pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
OkparaIgbo: You are not only daft, you are now have powers of vision. You can tell my nationality through an anonymous online forum? Or did I tell you I am a Nigerian? Freaking crybaby, 'Yoruba betrayed us, that's why we lost the civil war'. I ask you again, did yorober push you to war? 1 Like |
Re: SW Leaders Led By Tinubu Do Not Want Regionalism, Shamelessly Prefer Status Quo by Nobody: 9:55pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
manny4life: I understand your point, however, how's true regionalism feasible if we're still going to maintain the status quo? We might as well stick to what we've now, and encourage regionalism integration without going to the NASS... Anything worth doing, is worth doing well - and for true federalism and regionalism to work, we need to take power away from the center... Everything else is just hogwash... This was the same mistake we made when we moved from the parliamentary system of government to the presidential system... If we're going to embark on anything, we need to do it the right way - so as to achieve clear results... The quagmire we've right now is because of our inability to fully implement true federalism in our presidential system of government... We just can't continue playing to the gallery... Perhaps, that's why the SW isn't rushing anything for now and just watching how everything unfolds before taking a stand.. 2 Likes |
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