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Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by aribisala0(m): 10:32pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
This is a very sad story with many losers and no visible winners. Not the first time and not the Last. We are indeed a callous nation. Is this making the headlines on TV ? no Is it dominating the airwaves no. Will it dominate discussion at the National Assembly no. So expect nothing to be done. It is not inconceivable for a multimillionaire not to have 20000 naira in cash at short notice and so we do not even know that the woman or her family are indigent. The saddest thing is when a tragedy like this happens yes there is nothing we can do to reverse it but we can at least learn some lessons. Our tragedy is we don't learn. We repeat the same foolishness with shocking regularity and then blame principalities or beseech imported Gods for answers. The incident is still raw and emotions high so people will blame doctors and hospitals but that is an alibi. If we want hospitals to treat such cases and we are asked to all pay 1000 naira a month to a fund covering the hospitals would we pay? 2 Likes |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by micmond: 10:32pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
What a country,such a babaric atittude.money before life. |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by otokx(m): 10:32pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
izipee: pls sir otokx. I tried reachn u on tat uniport side bt it ddnt wrk. . .i fild my eligibility form widout my jamb details cuz sm1 tld me itz ryt since i got my admsn tru basic. . .hw cn i re-fill it? Pls hlp bros but i am now retired from that place na, why did you follow me here? |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Nobody: 10:33pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
We need to start a charity to educate Nigerians on the worth and value of a human LIFE, because it appears they do not have a clue !! |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Nobody: 10:33pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
@frosbel if ever u become ill (God forbidding sef) God will not let you jam a doctor like my brother. I trust him. If you don't pay you won't get treated. PERIOD Maybe my sista is more kindhearted just like my pops sha and will still have pity on the person Some doctors are not smiling. You should not forget that human kindheartedness is dependent on the individuals personal character and not the profession. There is no low in Nigeria that says a doctor should treat patients without being renumerated. Medicine is a profession not charity. The people that run charity are Red cross, WHO and the likes and maybe if you go to the hospitals they run u can get free treatment. Don't forget that serious funds is still needed to keep even Red cross and WHO functioning 1 Like |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Nobody: 10:34pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
frosbel:Sadly, you're the one making this about money.. |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Chedarking: 10:34pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
frosbel: Let me reiterate - This hospital was not OBLIGED to save this woman's life. All medical aid requires some sort of funding... If this was a Government hospital - I would be Irate, because the appropriate care has already been paid for... A private hospital is a BUSINESS offering medical services - Saving the woman would have been nice, but there is no OBLIGATION without PAYMENT 1 Like |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by izipee: 10:35pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
otokx:4gv me o..jst cnfused. Cn i atleast get ur email ID so i cn reach u dea? Plsss |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Chedarking: 10:36pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
aribisala0: EXACTLY |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Nobody: 10:36pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
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Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Nobody: 10:37pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
12 inches!: Medical Council of New Zealand A doctor’s duty to help in a medical emergency If asked to attend a medical emergency as defined in this statement, a doctor must respond. This is both an ethical and legal obligation. Rarely there will be times when attending a medical emergency is impossible or unsafe for the doctor or patient. If a doctor chooses not to attend he or she may be required to defend that decision in the event of a charge of professional misconduct or criminal prosecution. Definition of a ‘medical emergency’ 1. The Medical Council has adopted the definition of a medical emergency by S Miles as : “a sudden, unforeseen injury, illness or complication, demanding immediate or early professional care to save life or prevent gross disability, pain or distress. The immediate responsibility of the doctor faced with, or called to an emergency is to apply his knowledge and skill to the saving of life and relief of suffering and to establish the most favourable conditions for his patient's ultimate recovery. This is the basic philosophy of medicine... etc etc Source : http://www.mcnz.org.nz/assets/News-and-Publications/Statements/A-doctors-duty-to-help-in-a-medical-emergency.pdf |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Nobody: 10:38pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
Thank God we still have people with good heads in Nigeria. By the way wat section of NL am I in sef? I'm usually in the romance section yakking about "What makes men attractive" etc. |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Nobody: 10:40pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
coogar: lol...all these empty talks for me ?? You're loosing it man.. but I can help... go get a medical degree and practise for free... its so simple! 2 Likes |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Nobody: 10:40pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
taharqa:Maybe it's too deep, and ur just scared to fall in. Not to derail the topic but conside this: Is abortion wrong? |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by thegoodjoehunt(m): 10:40pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
Chedarking: Please you don't start a business that has to do with people's lives without having some ethics that go with it. There is a reason why licenses are given. There is a thought process that goes with the business. If the man didn't know he could meet up the bills, he won't go there. My twin lost his life in a specialist hospital. They only started treatment when it was too late. That was because they saw SUV's rushing to their hospital and knew that we could cater for the bills. So please if it is just for money, these wicked doctors should try selling food stuffs and get out from handling people's lives. If money is more important than lives to them. Imagine losing your a life when the person had enough money in the bank but the doctors are more interested in cash at hand before treating. Doctors like this are disgrace to their profession. 1 Like |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by otokx(m): 10:40pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
izipee: 4gv me o..jst cnfused. Cn i atleast get ur email ID so i cn reach u dea? Plsssno way una too like free thing, go and complain in the university, when you suffer well body go tell you. |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Chedarking: 10:40pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
frosbel: New Zealand is a country where the rule of law WORKS You cant compare New Zealand to a country like Nigeria The Government has failed the populace, and as such it is up to each man to protect his own interests - even at the expense of the next man's It is sad...but it is true... In Nigeria, you are compelled to look out for Number 1 - Yourself... |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Lakayana: 10:43pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
12 inches!:HEALTH AND YOU NEED GOOD HEALTH TO ROMANS THAT BOY/GIRL GIVING YOU SLEEPLESS NIGHTS |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Nobody: 10:43pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
As cold as it sounds,some posters here already covered the main issue. The facility is a private facility.and they are free to demand deposits before treatment Government hospitals also demand deposits and registration fees before treatment,that is just the way it goes in Nigeria If I contacted any of you guys selling cars to ship one to me and I pay later would you do it? You wouldn't because it is your means of livelihood and you need your pay.Now how does anybody expect a doctor to treat a patient without payment or deposit? People expect too much from others .this is the same reason landlords will go months without their due rent only for the tenants to pack out in the middle of the night and flee without a trace and the landlord is stiffed of his money.if he throws them out he will be called heartless for throwing out a family with young children or new born. If the doctor treated the woman and holds her hostage till they pay,people will also call them wicked It is sad the woman died but the hospital has a policy and a business to run If they treat everyone without payment pretty soon the hospital will fold up. Was the woman not attending antenatal clinic somewhere Why couldn't she go to the place she was scheduled to have her baby and see their doctors? |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by coogar: 10:43pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
acidosis™: get the fück outta my face, you make me sick...... |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Nobody: 10:44pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
frosbel: We need to start a charity to educate Nigerians on the worth and value of a human LIFE, because it appears they do not have a clue !!Save that money and spend it on educating Nigerians on how the Nigerian system and way of doing things works against them. Then, maybe only then will they understand what 'worth' and 'value' mean... U may have stayed in the UK too long, oga Frosbel.. |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by helpee(m): 10:44pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
Fr0sbel: 1 Like |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Zikdik(m): 10:44pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
frosbel:Hello!Doctors are human as well.What do you think might have caused such cold-heartedness?Some people can be very funny,after they've been treated,they act Prison Break."Ti won ba fe gba awin Eba,won a ma se oju melu-melu.Ti won ba yo tan,won a ma ran ju ni". R.I.P Young Woman(she's so beautiful) |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by thegoodjoehunt(m): 10:44pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
Chedarking: Maybe all pharmacists should start buying adulterated drugs to make more profits. Hence money is more important. Maybe Pharmacists should stop smiling. |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by izipee: 10:45pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
otokx: no way una too like free thing, go and complain in the university, when you suffer well body go tell you.pls hlp me out... |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by taharqa: 10:46pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
I just cant understand how any one would even attempt justifying this. Assuming this version is entirely correct (the article didn't bother to provide us the views of the other party), then this is simply a clear case of Man's inhumanity to another, period; and the actors in this terrible drama should be arrested ASAP and tried for MURDER. For some persons invoking 'Business' and the often unreliable attitudes of 'customers', need I remind you that this is a case of EMERGENCY (in the truest sense of that word cos 2 lives were at stake here), meaning EVERY person or institution (not least Doctors/nurses and hospitals) is bound to provide any service which can aid the saving of the lives at stake at the time- the issue of 'business' and concerns over one's experience with 'customers' should not arise in such instance at all. Very sad that these two had to die this way; very troubling that 'normal' peeps can even have the heart to attempt to justify it. |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Nobody: 10:47pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
frosbel: All what you've quoted here is just cheap talk. You can't force anybody to treat if he doesn't want too. It's not even tenable in a legal court. Every contract involves consideration before it can be termed binding. Hope you also find the link that shows what New Zealand government has put in place what will ensure that private doctors get renumerated for whatever service rendered. |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by aribisala0(m): 10:47pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
In theory it sounds good to say doctors should respond to all emergencies. We cannot separate this from context i.e. Social context. In a poor country it is normal to make sacrifices and we say "We are all in this together". Then No one is special; eating Billions of Naira a year and building billion Naira banquet halls while sending his wife to Germany for treatment or children to school in London in special jets at public expense. . In the latter scenario it is every man for himself. The doctor who treats emergencies does not get paid and soon goes bust so the situation and the death of this poor woman is a symptom NOT the problem. The problem is Nigeria is a poor country by any measure and our politicians live large even larger than their counterparts from America or Britain. They are the problem NOT doctors. When society works properly doctors are more humane. In Nigeria our doctors are angry,hostile and vengeful even. But those are merely symptoms.....,., 1 Like |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by 1313(m): 10:47pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
When I read people's comments on many threads I always wonder how people think. In this sad case,what has government to do with this situation?what has the medical system has to do with it? Its purely a sign of Lack of value for human life. Its not about the government,it means WE DON'T LOVE OURSELVES! |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by helpee(m): 10:47pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
@frobel. Rather you are the one not getting the point. Doctors are not trained to act on emotions. A life must be saved? How do u know? For all u care, that woman may need an emergency tranfusion with blood that you may have to buy from the bank with 30k. So the doctor should dip his hand in the pocket and pay. And he may even want to do that but for how many people? The woman may need an emergency surgery that u need to call another specialist to come and do. So u will give the specialist stories that they are yet to pay? A life must be saved but doctors are not under the illussion they can help everybody so don't blame them if they can't save a life due to something beyond their power. For ur information, a thousand lives need to be saved not just a life per day in our different hospitals so how many of them do u want to do charity for. We are the one on ground and we are telling u what is happening you are still saying a life must be saved. U think u have more human feelings than I do? Think again |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by Chedarking: 10:48pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
thegoodjoehunt: Bruv I feel your pain...but this is the reality of the hell that is Nigeria - No paddy for jungle The levels of hardship in Nigeria have forced people to put survival ahead of conscience - and can we really argue with that? In a sane society, this doctor should be stripped of his license...BUT is Nigeria a sane society? 2 Likes |
Re: Pregnant Woman Dies In Port-harcourt Hospital Because Of Deposit by thegoodjoehunt(m): 10:48pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
Baby mama: As cold as it sounds,some posters here already covered the main issue. Selling Cars, House leasing or letting is not the same like when it comes to running a business that concerns people's lives. In an emergency, you rush the person to the nearest hospital. When it comes to medical profession, live is first because that can't be replaced but the money can be. |
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