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Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 9:35am On Nov 21, 2013 |
Ortarico: You can only use a digit once. Okay, let me re-phrase the question. 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 9:42am On Nov 21, 2013 |
How many even numbers greater than 4000 can be formed using the digits 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5? [Note: A digit can be used only once.] |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Laplacian(m): 9:49am On Nov 21, 2013 |
Laplacian: ...d sum of two non-zero integers is equal to their product...find d numbers.... |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by factorial1(m): 9:53am On Nov 21, 2013 |
The numbers are 2 and 2. [quote author=Laplacian][/quote] |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 9:55am On Nov 21, 2013 |
@factorial1 We not only ask questions on this thread. We ATTEMPT to answer posted questions, too. I'm yet to see you attempt any. Sometimes, my solution can be completely wrong, but I trust Masters Laplacian, Maximus, Richiez, Jackpot, Ortarico, DoubleDx, Benbuks, Echibuzor, etc. to put me through. I must confess that I've learnt a lot on this thread. I now visit this thread more than I do Yahoo News, Punchng.com, BBC, CNN, etc. I'd like to see you attempt a question or two soonest. Lest I forget, thanks for your last set of questions. I'm eagerly following the solution provided by the masters. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by factorial1(m): 10:00am On Nov 21, 2013 |
Oh! Sorry 4 dat, that's wat I actually wanted to du now(to ans. ur qt) Note: I'm nt dah less busy, I'll try to be contributing too... smurfy: @factorial1 |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 10:15am On Nov 21, 2013 |
factorial1: Oh! Sorry 4 dat, that's wat I actually wanted to du now(to ans. ur qt) Great! Let's see if you can destroy my question. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by echibuzor: 10:20am On Nov 21, 2013 |
Laplacian: ...d sum of two non-zero integers is equal to their product...find d numbers....The only way that is hypothetically possible is if the numbers are 2 and 2. Shikena |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by factorial1(m): 10:21am On Nov 21, 2013 |
Ok, here is the solution If all six digits are used and the number is to be even, the last(right hand) digits must be either 0, 2 or 4 which gives 3 choices. When this's is done, there are 4 choices for the first digit, 3 for the 2nd, 2 for the third and 1 for the forth digit. So, we av 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 x3 = 62 even numbers using all five digits. Now, if all five digits are used and the number is to be even, the last digit cannot be 1, and either 0, 2 or 4 has already been used: therefore, der are 2 choices for the first, for the 2nd digits der are now 2 choices, 1 for d third n' 1 4 the forth= 2 x 2 x 1 x 1=4. Therefore the total num. of even numbers is 4+ 62= 66. Hope I'm correct sha...? coz the qt is somhw confusing to me seeing 0(zero) der smurfy: How many even numbers greater than 4000 can be formed using the digits 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5? [Note: A digit can be used only once.] |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Laplacian(m): 11:16am On Nov 21, 2013 |
factorial1: The numbers are 2 and 2.dats d correct answer but i want 2 c ur proof... |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 11:22am On Nov 21, 2013 |
factorial1: Ok, here is the solution Your first line of argument makes sense, but even your answer for that, the 6-digit answer, is wrong. The only hint I'll give for this question is that it's an OR question. ...still waiting for a correct answer. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Calculusfx: 11:25am On Nov 21, 2013 |
factorial1: Ok, here is the solutionhmmm ,for numbers greater than 4000(it can be 4,5 or 6 digits)if 4digits,we can see 4 and 5,and for the number to end with even,any of 0,2 or 4 must end the number,also note that the number must not be repeated,then we do it like this,make hole,4 for four digits,5 for five digits etc 4 DIGITS STARTING WITH 5 it can end with 0,2 or 4,then the fourth hole will have 3,it starts with 5,the first hole with have 1,don't forget there are six numbers in all,the last and the first are known therefore it gives 1*4*3*3=36 4 DIGITS STARTING WITH 4 since repeatition is not allowed,then it can end with 0 or 2,then the holes will have 1*4*3*2=24 total=36+24=60 5 DIGITS it can end with 0,2 or 4.but note that 0 cannot be in the first hole so as not to make the number 4digits again(then only 4 digits can occupy the first hole)...then the holes are 4*4*3*2*3=288... 6 DIGITS Same as 5 digits...it can end with 0,2 or 4,then 3 can occupy the last hole,and can start with 4 in the first hole coz 0 cannot start the digit...then 4*4*3*2*1*3=288... TOTAL=288+288+60=636ways |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by echibuzor: 11:28am On Nov 21, 2013 |
A population of Ikamudu (yoruba : an insect that smells horribly when you step on it) exhibits logistic growth. If the carrying capacity is 500 butterflies and r = 0.1 individuals/(individuals x month), what is the maximum population growth rate for the population? (Hint: maximum population growth rate occurs when N = K/2). |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Calculusfx: 11:54am On Nov 21, 2013 |
factorial1: Play with the questions below:i will explain 1,2 and 4 with my solution in 3 1...0.2cm^2 2...0.04cm^3 4...0.02cm^2 5...x=tany.dx/dy=sec^2y.dy/dx=1/sec^2y and from trig.sec^2y=1+tan^2y.substitute that to give dy/dx=1/(1+tan^2y) and don't forget from the question that tany=x then dy/dx=1/(1+x^2) 3.volume of a sphere=4/3.pi.r^3...v=4/3.pi.r^3...dv/dr=4pi.r^2...from the formula for small change in calculus...§v=dv/dr*§r where § represents delta...then §v=4pi.r^2.§r...divide by v...§v/v=(4pi.r^2§r)/(4/3.pi.r^3)=3§r/r §v/v=change in volume §r/r=change in radius(and don't forget the radius increases by 3%.§v/v=3§r/r=3*3%=9%,then the volume increases by 0.09... |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by factorial1(m): 11:57am On Nov 21, 2013 |
*clears throat* let's go, firstly, let the two numbers be 'x' and 'y'. From the qt, it can be infered dhat the sum of this non-zero integers is equal to their product: the mathematical representation is x + y = xy.....(i) Now, from equation (i), make x the subject of the relation/formulae, the result is x = xy - y.....(ii), also, make y the subject of the relation from eqn (i), the result is y = xy - x....(iii). Therefore, add eqn (ii) and (iii)...(i.e x + y) together and equate it with their product(i.e xy), x + y = xy, xy - x + xy - x = xy, which is equal to 2xy - 2x = xy, collecting the like terms, we have 2xy - xy = 2x, xy(2 - 1) = 2x, therefore xy = 2x, divide both side by x, we have xy/x = 2x=x, from there....y = 2. So, subitutute y=2 into any of the above equation. I use eqn (i) which is x + y = xy, x + 2 = 2x, collecting the like terms x - 2x = -2, -x = -2. Note: minus cancelled out, therefor x = 2. With this...I think u are satisfied sir? The two non-zero integers in which their sum is equal to their product is/are ''2'' and ''2''. Thanks Laplacian: |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by factorial1(m): 12:01pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Alright, will work on that too.... Thanks for the enlightment brov, bravo! Hope this's correct...? @smurfy. Calculusf(x): |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Dane17: 12:05pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Laplacian: ...d sum of two non-zero integers is equal to their product...find d numbers..... x+y=xy ; x=xy-y ; x=y(x-1) ; y=x/x-1 ; therefore if x=2 ; y= 2/1 ; if x=3 ;y=3/2 if x=4 ; y=4/3 and so on. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Dane17: 12:09pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
every value of x has its y value which is (x/x-1) for d equation to be true provided x =/= 1(provided x is not equal to 1) |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Ayomide002: 12:09pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
This is calculusf(x),i'm chatting with my cousin's account...to the moderator,i was just banned from posting about 3minutes ago,i just want to ask if you can unban me...if not,how many days can it take me before i can type? |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by echibuzor: 12:10pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
factorial1: *clears throat***Clears throat** Your head is there, but ehm... that bolded part should be 2xy-x-y |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by factorial1(m): 12:11pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Brov, u aint told to do try and error, laplacian asked for a proof, and I've done that. #Cheers Dane17: . x+y=xy ; x=xy-y ; x=y(x-1) ; y=x/x-1 ; therefore if x=2 ; y= 2/1 ; if x=3 ;y=3/2 if x=4 ; y=4/3 and so on. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Dane17: 12:21pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
smurfy: How many even numbers greater than 4000 can be formed using the digits 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5? [Note: A digit can be used only once.]. In solving ur question do I assume that 023514 is different from 23514 |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by factorial1(m): 12:34pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
oops, could'nt notice that though, guess I've to think of another method to use. thanks brov echibuzor: |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Dane17: 12:37pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
factorial1: Brov, u aint told to do try and error, laplacian asked for a proof, and I've done that. #Cheers. u manipulated . I don't get dis part (Therefore, add eqn (ii) and (iii)...(i.e x + y) together and equate it with their product(i.e xy), x + y = xy, xy - x + xy - x y = xy, which is equal to 2xy - 2x = xy,). how did u arrive at 2xy-2x=xy. Finally d answer to his question is not just 2 and 2 . they are many values like 3 and 1.5 which gives 4.5 . look at my previous solving carefully and u will understand |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by factorial1(m): 12:43pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Nice one brah CORRECT...waiting for others qts to be solved. Qt2 and 4 to be precise. echibuzor: |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 12:43pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Dane17: . In solving ur question do I assume that 023514 is different from 23514 Yes. They're the same. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by factorial1(m): 12:45pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
factorial1: oops, could'nt notice that though, guess I've to think of another method to use. thanks brov Dane17: . u manipulated . I don't get dis part (Therefore, add eqn (ii) and factorial1: oops, could'nt notice that though, guess I've to think of another method to use. thanks brovnoticed! |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Laplacian(m): 12:58pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
factorial1: *clears throat*nice work but ur solution has flaw, d point where u added (ii) and (iii) u said, xy - x + xy - X = xy, its suppose to be xy - x + xy - Y = xy....u replaced y by x, and affectd d rest of d wrk... |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 1:09pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Dane17: . x+y=xy ; x=xy-y ; x=y(x-1) ; y=x/x-1 ; therefore if x=2 ; y= 2/1 ; if x=3 ;y=3/2 if x=4 ; y=4/3 and so on. The numbers are integers, so only 2 and 2 qualify as answers. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Laplacian(m): 1:09pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Dane17: . x+y=xy ; x=xy-y ; x=y(x-1) ; y=x/x-1 ; therefore if x=2 ; y= 2/1 ; if x=3 ;y=3/2 if x=4 ; y=4/3 and so on.u got the answer and d steps but 3 and 1.5 are not solutions because 1.5 is not an INTEGER.. ...y=x/(x-1), notice dat x and x-1 are consecutive integers, but two consecutive intgers can only b divisibl iff d denominator is 1, or x-1=1 so x=2, and that is d ONLY INTEGER solution |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by echibuzor: 1:11pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
echibuzor: A population of Ikamudu (yoruba : an insect that smells horribly when you step on it) exhibits logistic growth. If the carrying |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by factorial1(m): 1:15pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
0 and 0 too smurfy: |
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