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Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Dane17: 1:16pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
smurfy: How many even numbers greater than 4000 can be formed using the digits 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5? [Note: A digit can be used only once.]. (6 digit ending with 0 can be arranged in(cbai)) 5×4×3×2=120 ;(6 digit ending with 2 or 4 cbai) 4×4×3×2=96 each. total six digit =96+96+120=312. total five digit numba is also 312. (4 digit ending with 0 and 2 cbai) 2×4×3= 24 each ; (4 digit ending with 4 cbai) 1×4×3=12 ; total 4 digit= 24+24+12=60. Total numba greater dan 4000 dat can be formed is 60+312+312=684 |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Dane17: 1:23pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
smurfy:. Ya I forgot . U are right. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 1:28pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Calculusf(x): You really tried, but your answer is incorrect. Your answer, 60, for all possible 4-digit numbers is correct. But the others are wrong, thereby affecting the final answer. Why didn't you solve the 5-digit and 6-digit part scenario-wise like you did the 4-digit part? |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Dane17: 1:28pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
since y= x/x-1 and x and y are integers and non zero then x=2 and so is y. since 2 is d only case that x-1 is a factor of x. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by echibuzor: 1:33pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
factorial1: 0 and 0 too ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 1:34pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Dane17: . (6 digit ending with 0 can be arranged in(cbai)) 5×4×3×2=120 ;(6 digit ending with 2 or 4 cbai) 4×4×3×2=96 each. total six digit =96+96+120=312. total five digit numba is also 312. (4 digit ending with 0 and 2 cbai) 2×4×3= 24 each ; (4 digit ending with 4 cbai) 1×4×3=12 ; total 4 digit= 24+24+12=60. Total numba greater dan 4000 dat can be formed is 60+312+312=684 Beautifully correct! Wow! I love your answer. Now, for the sake of others, let me explain the steps below... |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 1:34pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
smurfy: How many even numbers greater than 4000 can be formed using the digits 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5? [Note: A digit can be used only once.] |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 1:35pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
smurfy: How many even numbers greater than 4000 can be formed using the digits 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5? [Note: A digit can be used only once.] Master Calculus has already got 60 for all possible 4-digit numbers, so I'll skip that. Here goes... 5-DIGIT NUMBERS Now we need to proceed with caution because of that 0 digit. There are three scenarios to consider: (a) ends with 0 (b) ends with 2 (c) ends with 4 (A) Ends with Zero: Possible combination is 5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1 = 120 (B) Ends with Two Possible combination is 4 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1 = 96 (C) Ends with Four Possible combination is 4 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1 = 96 Add these three scenarios to get 312 possible 5-digit numbers. 6-DIGIT NUMBERS Same three scenarios. The three combinations (following the same order as above) are: 5*4*3*2*1*1 = 120 (ends with zero), 4*4*3*2*1*1 = 96 (ends with two) and 4*4*3*2*1*1 = 96 (ends with four). This also gives 312. So the number of ways of forming even numbers greater than 4000 from digits 0 through 5 is 60 + 312 + 312 = 684. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by echibuzor: 1:35pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
factorial1: Play with the questions below: 2. Volume of cylinder = ^r2h, d/dx (^r2h) = 2^rh put in the correct measurement into this to get 80^ Multiply the result above with (4.02 - 4.00) => 0.02 Approximate increase = 0.02 * 80^ = 5.02655 cm |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Dane17: 1:36pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
smurfy:. Thanks *smiling* |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Laplacian(m): 2:00pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
@smurfy 2 ansa ur ques i'll first mak a few observations 1.) d numbers 0,1,2,3,4,5 wen used 2 form numbers greater dan 4000 will contain equal number of even numbers as odd numbers because the last digits can each be in 3 ways; 0,2,4(even) and 1,3,5(odd) 2.)if u are to arrange a set of n numbers and u do not desire 0 to start d digit, then first arrange d numbers i.e nPr Then keep zero constant as d first number and arrang d rest i.e (n-1)P(r-1) If now u take their differenc i.e nPr-(n-1)P(r-1) Then the result is d number of ways of arrangin d numbers without zero appearin as first digit Now Ur Solution ARRANGE IN SIX DIGITS number of ways of arrangin 0,1,2,3,4,5 in six digit witout zero appearin first is =6P6-5P5=600ways ARRANGE IN FIVE DIGITS 6P5-5P4=600ways ARRANGE IN FOUR DIGITS in dis case 0,1,2,3 MUST not occur as first digit, so number of ways of arrangement =6P4-4*(5P3)=360-4*60 =120ways in summary, number of ways of formin digit wit 0,1,2,3,4,5 so dat d number formed is greater than 4000=600+600+120=1,320ways finally if d numbers formed must be EVEN, then number of ways =1320/2=660ways |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 2:22pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
What! ?...brains on fire...hmm .ma run comot .. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 2:23pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
@Laplacian The approach you used above is wrong as it fails to take other important factors into consideration. I'm sure there's something wrong with this approach, but I can't just figure it out. Let me re-post my solution below... |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 2:23pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
smurfy: |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Dane17: 2:38pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Laplacian: @smurfy. d 6 and 5 digit will not have d same numba of odd and even numba. let's use ur method for 0,1,2. from ur form numba of 3 digit will be 3P3-2P2=4 and numba of even numba would be 4/2=2. But dere are 3 even(210,102,120) and one odd (201 numba. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Laplacian(m): 3:02pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Dane17: . d 6 and 5 digit will not have d same numba of odd and even numba. let's use ur method for 0,1,2. from ur form numba of 3 digit will be 3P3-2P2=4 and numba of even numba would be 4/2=2. But dere are 3 even(210,102,120) and one odd (201 numba.i do not claim dat my solution is right but u hav decisively justified my approach...using my approach u correctly predicted d four numbers, but d odd and even numbers are not equal because my FIRST OBSERVATION is not satisfied; 0,2(even) and 1(odd)... Try it d numbers 0,1,2,3 and c |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Dane17: 3:19pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Laplacian:. I'm not saying I'm right either I just stated an observation. for 0,1,2,3 u get 10 even (102,120,130,132,210,230,302,310,312,320) and 8 odd (103,123,201,203,213,231,301,321). ur oda formula should be correct as 4P3-3P2=18 |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by rhydex247(m): 3:29pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
benbuks: Find the anti-derivative of (cosx +1)^-2HERE IS THE WORKING. I'll let my integral sign to be $ $ 1/(cosx+1)^2dx Substitute u=tan(x/2)..... du/dx=1/2(sec^2(x/2)) du=1/2(sec^2(x/2)). Then transforming the integral using the substitution. sinx=2u/u^2+1.... cosx=1-u^2/u^2+1 and dx=2du/u^2+1. $ 2/(u^2+1)[(1-u^2)/(u^2+1) +1]^2 du simplifying the integrand gives 1/2(u^2+1). $1/2(u^2+1)du. 1/2[$u^2du+$1du] 1/2[u^3/3+u]+C u^3/6+u/2+C recall that u=tan(x/2) tan^3(x/2)/6+tan(x/2)/2+C. shikena or if u want to go further we av this as the final answer sinx(cosx+2)/3(cosx+1)^2 +C |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Laplacian(m): 3:30pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Dane17: . I'm not saying I'm right either I just stated an observation. for 0,1,2,3 u get 10 even (102,120,130,132,210,230,302,310,312,320) and 8 odd (103,123,201,203,213,231,301,321). ur oda formula should be correct as 4P3-3P2=18thank u very much bro.... Why are d even numbers more dan d odd numbers?....**:ojust thinking:/** |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Idenyijoshua(m): 3:40pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
smurfy: How many even numbers greater than 4000 can be formed using the digits 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5? [Note: A digit can be used only once.]. Using a.p the first even number greater than 4000 is 4002, hence a =4002. Common difference d=2(since they should all be even). The largest even number u can have is 5432(given d available numbers). T(n) = a+(n-1)d (where n is d number of even numbers possible.) substituting u have n=1432/2 =716. Hope i'm right o |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by busuyem: 3:47pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
smurfy: sorry 4 asking this question: why did u repeat 4 twice while dealing with numbers that end with 2 and 4 digits? |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Dane17: 4:09pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Laplacian:. I think it's cos u can't start wit zero. if it start with an odd numba dere are more even numba form and vice versa( i.e when dere are equal odd and even numba). cos d numba is keep constant and dere will be n odd and n-1 even to occupy d last position or vise versa |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 4:26pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
busuyem: The numbers multiplied are not the digits but the number of ways those boxes or holes or positions can be occupied by the digits. Let me explain with the 443211 (ends with 2) possible combination for 6-digit numbers. Since the last digit is 2, we now have four more digits to occupy the first box (I'm excluding 0 as zero can't come first). Two digits have been used up so... The second box can be occupied in 4 ways. Third box, 3 ways. Fourth, 2 ways. Fifth, 1 way. That's how I got the combination above FOR 6-digit even numbers that end with DIGIT 2. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 4:26pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
busuyem: |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Laplacian(m): 5:24pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
[quote author=smurfy][/quote] pls i'll need u 2 solve it 4 d case in where we are required 2 find all odd numbers greater than 4000 using 0,1,2,3,4,5 |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 5:32pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Laplacian: Solve for all odd numbers? Okay. Here goes... 4-DIGIT NUMBERS The last digit must be 1, 3 or 5. The first digit must be 4 or 5. Six scenarios! (a) first digit is 4, last digit is 1 (b) first digit is 4, last digit is 3 (c) first digit is 4, last digit is 5 (d) first digit 5, last digit 1 (e) first digit 5, last digit 3 (f) first digit 5, last digit... Ha! We can't use 5 twice, so scenario (e) doesn't count. That means we'll only consider scenarios (a) to (e) only. (a) gives 1*4*3*1 = 12 (b) gives 1*4*3*1 = 12 (c) gives 1*4*3*1 = 12 (d) gives 1*4*3*1 = 12 (e) gives 1*4*3*1 = 12. Adding the scenarios gives 5*12 = 60 ways of forming odd numbers greater than 4000 from the digits 0 through 5. 5-DIGIT NUMBERS We have three scenarios here since we don't have to bother too much about the first digit. We only ensure the digit zero doesn't come first. (a) ends with digit 1 gives 4*4*3*2*1=96 (b) ends with digit 3 gives 4*4*3*2*1=96 (c) ends with digit 5 gives 4*4*3*2*1=96. So there are 3*96 = 288 ways of forming odd 5-digit numbers from the digits 0 through 5. 6-DIGIT NUMBERS Three scenarios. Let me skip a step or two... (a) 4*4*3*2*1*1 = 96 (b) 4*4*3*2*1*1 = 96 (c) 4*4*3*2*1*1 = 96 So, there are 3*96 = 288 ways of getting 6-digit odd numbers from the digits 0 through 5. Final answer... The number of odd numbers greater than 4000 that can be formed from the digits 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 is 60 + 288 + 288 = 636. Hey, we obtained 684 for even and 636 for odd numbers. Why do we have less ways of forming odd numbers than even numbers? ![]() It's partly because of the silly restriction placed on 4-digit numbers. It has cost the ODD NUMBERS team a whooping 48 points! ![]() |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 5:56pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Hmmmn! I'm far lagging behind and i'm rly scared! Whr do i start frm? |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 6:00pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
Pls, any reasonable workings to dis questn? Find x&y if x+y=5 &x^x+y^y=31 (i tink d answers r 2&3, i'd b glad if i can get d workings) |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by rhydex247(m): 6:18pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
godofphysics: Pls, any reasonable workings to dis questn?try nd check the previous pages u will c d working there. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 6:36pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
rhydex 247:pls who solved d questn so dat i can view d person's posts. It wil save me d tyme of going 2ru all d pages. Thanks.... (I'm stil sweating wit d last few pages coz it's like i've not rly understood some of d solutions) |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 6:54pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
smurfy: How many even numbers greater than 4000 can be formed using the digits 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5? [Note: A digit can be used only once.]hmmn! Daniel17 has actually killed d questn in a simple but logical way! |
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