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Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by onatisi(m): 7:01pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
fewj:then simply find a means and way of making more money , |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by Fhemmmy: 7:12pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
fewj: Yes, i am very careful with my choice of words, however, all i am saying is that sometimes, you will have to charge less to get clients and once you are known and doing great job, you could now increase your fees a little, cos your clientele that knows you doing great and trust your work and service wont mind to pay more . . . But if you can avoid some expenses, please avoid it, pay more for the job and not for the fixtures Also, from what people are saying and the way Technology is going, soon, web developers MIGHT be out of work and have to have some real good prices and creative ways of doing things to get projects doing, cos almost everyone now develops sites too And like people have said, Indians are not making it easy for the developers as well |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by cash22(m): 7:31pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
bonanza, #1000 naira for any website design you need. |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by Ycbgroup: 7:36pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
exactly, bt web developer and some Nigerians find that hard to do [quote author=Fhemmmy] [color=#000099][b]Yes, i am very careful with my choice of words, however, all i am saying is that sometimes, you will have to charge less to get clients and once you are known and doing great job, you could now increase your fees a little, cos your clientele that knows you doing great and trust your work and service wont mind to pay more . . . But if you can avoid some expenses, please avoid it, pay more for the job and not for the fixtures Also, from what people are saying |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by Fhemmmy: 7:47pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
Ycbgroup: exactly, bt web developer and some Nigerians find that hard to do With time all will be well |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by VLadipo: 8:00pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
Thank God for PHP/MySQL. Its a no-go area for riff-raffs. I intend specializing in dynamic websites and websites that drive online databases. 1 Like |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by PapaBrowne(m): 9:03pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
What a frame of thinking. This kind of mindset would work in maybe North Korea and Cuba, not in a capitalist society like Nigeria and worse still in a field ( internet)that is the champion of .FREEdom. Emphasis on FREE. If you think web design of 50k is what you want to do in 2013' think again. When you have world class Wordpress templates you can customize yourself and host for $17 per year. Why would I want to pay anybody 50k when I can do a better job than most of the nonsense I see many Nigerian designers showcase in their gallery. If you want to charge good money, focus on web development and not web design. Build codes that would make things easier for society instead of this your lazy approach that seeks to protect mediocrity. |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by miqos02(m): 9:09pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
kaboninc:they actually exist. @op oya form cartel. |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by kambo(m): 9:10pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
i understand and sympathize with the poster's view point. As a matter of fact the prize should be set to much higher amounts because it will command respect from clients . In the corporate world low prices are only offered because the buyers number in millions. If microsoft can charge 5k dollars for a software why shouldnt a professional charge well. Despite the large number of lawyers, accountants, architects , surgeons in the country none of them charge beggarly prices instead of bending over to accomodate all comers the fix and continuosly upwardly review their prices . And clients hold them in high esteem people want their children to study law medicine surgery why? Partly because of the impressive fees this folks command. When an indian charges close to nothing who is gains? Who is the baboon? The same client that pays 20k for a website doesnt mind paying 1m+ a year in private school fees for their wards and they lament with pride about how high the fees are . If private schools became cheap dyu think society will respect them or the rich will patronise them? Nothing is as bad as exuding poverty mindedness. Indians are regarded as beggars because of their pricing. The western world has no respect for them, they ment to be used and that's what the has been doing. Indians will continue to hav this reputation as long as they come across as grovelly and cheap. Guys grow up the poster is right, but the unionization thing is way of it will stiffle creativity. People buy commodities but save their money for luxuries. Despite the abundance why hasnt iphones ipads blackberrys laptops become ultra cheap because if their prices fall below a certain level they'll become commoditized and lose their appeal. Web masters and I.T folks in niaja hav sold themselves short . It's a raw deal. 4 Likes |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by antontech(m): 9:24pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
Although am still new at this,i still use joomla nd wordpress but currently reading so hard and on a course to become a professional,i think the price should not be fixed.let your portfolio talk for you,so the designer or developer sgould charge any price he or she desiress because all goods might be d same but cannot be sold at the same price. |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by Fhemmmy: 9:34pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
antontech: Although am still new at this,i still use joomla nd wordpress but currently reading so hard and on a course to become a professional,i think the price should not be fixed.let your portfolio talk for you,so the designer or developer sgould charge any price he or she desiress because all goods might be d same but cannot be sold at the same price. Beautifullllllllllllll |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by manny4life(m): 9:36pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
I've NEVER believed in unions because it breeds laziness. Competition bring the best in people, so competition rules. Web designers must find other means of generating revenue, perhaps, try marketing to a particular their niche. |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by phoneport(m): 9:48pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
This is democracy so let people be Let them charge what ever they like. I BELIVE that if you are good, people will pay even #100.000 to design their web with you. Competition makes the business thick. |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by jiveman(m): 10:13pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN I suggests,if you want to earn more in 2013 get a copy of this book.I have one.And today,in any niche,I would hardly complain because it has really shown me the SECRETS of being afloat in a very competitive market.Here it is:How to Out-sell, Out-market, Out-promote, Out-advertise, Everyone Else You Compete Against, Before They Even Know What Hit Them.you can get that on amazon.com |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by solid3(m): 10:58pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
I can see so many dissenting opinion about the subject matter. A whole lot of ish has also been raised. I can also see the competition goin on btw d OP and Funky medina with the "like" button, lets see how it ends. Nevertheless, contrary opinion wld not deter us from focusing on the right thing. If we continue to use wordpress and joomla templates, when will we learn to also devlop our original templates from scratch? Just like a person who only knows how to decorate a house without knowing jack about how d house was built. Or a cheef who only knows how to microwave and garnish ready made food and yet calls himself a professional. Lets learn to support local productions, lets stop depending on the Americans and Indians for all our needs while they keep advancing. Also, if we continue to charge cheap amount, when will we be able to go corporate and perharps become big ICT company? When will you b able to pay for office acommodation of N450k/yr in Abuja? When will u b able to show up for a business meeting with ur iPad/Galaxy Tab in ur designer suit and a clean car rather than the usual sweating in jeans, T-shirt & perm slippers? C'mon, wise up, even if u ar a Cut&Paste Master, must u remain at that level? Brb. 4 Likes |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by demoreon: 11:43pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
jiveman: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERNGuess you referring to "Stealth Marketing" by Jay Abraham |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by Ogbonnagba(m): 11:49pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
I hope u guys will incorporate the foreign companies that does the same thing. The indian guys are ready to work for you at a rate cheaper than 10k. For me, wp and joomla is good I use them and any one too can provided he can manipulate/write codes to suit his demands. |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by Kagawa: 5:45am On Jan 04, 2013 |
Its impossible moderating the price of a website. What you charge cannot be the same as what I do, for in real, lets assume we were both madt, our madtness can't be the same, its either mine is higher, or V.V, thus all humans are madt in their own way. You can charge higher than any of these amounts you mentioned, all you just need do is be ahead of the curl. |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by Elgaxton(m): 6:03am On Jan 04, 2013 |
Interesting! I dont think banning anyone cos he /she has a lesser price is fair, think about it. You charge 50k and above and get fewer website jobs while they charge like 10k and get more jobs done yet not with so much profit as you. As for me, whenever a client approaches me with that 10k website bru-ha-ha, I have just a simple phrase for them. " Oga but you know how 10K website go be" Its an open field brother! You just have to learn the ART of BOOTSTRAPPING in business A professional business man will never pay 10K for a good website. 1 Like |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by Nobody: 6:14am On Jan 04, 2013 |
V.Ladipo:Gbam. *******I specialise in e-commerce websites and here is a basic one for demo only****** www.gidilinks.com/shop I'm a developer myself and I spend most of my time on personal projects rather than freelance contracts because it simply doesn't pay well enough. I intend to learn more about core php programming and a whole lot of related junk but most of what I learn will be deployed on personal projects. I'm simply discouraged from freelancing because of Nigerian factors like high internet illiteracy rate ( Most nigerian entrepreneurs/business owners are oblivious on the power of the internet and social media marketing) It sometimes take a sermon for you to make them understand the need for them to key into the business and marketing potentials that the internet offers. *Another factor that contributes to OP as well as other web designers frustration is the fact that Nigeria still suffers from low internet penetration. We still have very few people surfing the internet as compared to our general population. The story would have been quite different if a good number of Nigerians use the internet effectively, let's say 90% like what obtains in other advanced countries. Even those who surf the internet don't go beyond Facebook, Twitter, e-mails and a few other gossip/celebrity blogs and in your own case Nairaland lol!. So there's no way web design/ development business can be lucrative except for a few who know their onion and until the status quo changes. The internet will only be a mirage that only a few sophisticated and enlightened Nigerians understand. Even our public office holders don't have an idea on what potentials lie in this new form of media. 1 Like |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by brightk(m): 7:44am On Jan 04, 2013 |
I intend going into developing website templates (browser & mobile compatible).. dont know if this will be profitable here in this country where rifrats thinks its all about free templates, cut and paste and CMS.. check out professional templates with the so called free templates, joomla & wordpress templates. action speaks better than words.. A real professional knows his onions.. you cant eat ur cake and have it..if you are charging 20k per website,i would want to believe u are just trying to build a big portfolio after which u want to step higher. As for those Indians (if u ve tasted poverty u would go down low)...i dont blame them, the earlier they realize their worth the better for them.. i know of a web design company who outsource their projects to indians simply becos they charge lower than their Nigerian colleagues. 4 me creating a union is out of it.. but i think everyone knows his/her worth.. sometimes i feel discouraged seeing amounts being paid to full time web design staffs....its really sad as our value have depreciated. like i said, I intend going into developing real professional website templates (browser & mobile compatible, maybe i would create a thread for it later and give out free templates that is device compatible... |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by texazzpete(m): 8:20am On Jan 04, 2013 |
*solid*: I'm surprised this garnered 40 'Likes'. This is a free market. Adapt or die. If your work cannot stand out for itself, then find something better to do. I swear, this is senseless beyond belief. Perhaps footballers should form union too and ban anyone collecting salary of less than N300k per month. Nonsense. |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by texazzpete(m): 8:23am On Jan 04, 2013 |
databoy247: The only thing this says about you is that you just aren't good enough. If your client tells you he can get someone to do it for N20k and you cannot in 10 minutes whip out your iPad and show his the difference between your N300k website and the N20k website, you have no business calling yourself a 'professional web developer'. |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by MacLovington(m): 9:00am On Jan 04, 2013 |
Imagine Germany, China, Japan and South Korea forming a cartel to inflate prices of cars, machinery and electronics? There should be competition. Some people cannot afford 50k for their webpage considering their profit margin. OP: carve out a niche for yourself-try to attract high-end consumers assuming you are good enough. In the same market where some clothes have no name, there you also find YSL, Armani, Gucci, Ralph Lauren, Burberry etc. |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by jmoore(m): 9:07am On Jan 04, 2013 |
Send your proposal to the senate for the ban. smh Waste of time on nothing that will never happen. If you are charging 1 million naira for website design why the headache if another person decide to charge 1,000 naira. |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by WebsiteDesigner: 9:08am On Jan 04, 2013 |
Please let no one look down on our dear old JOOMLA. U will not believe the powerfully aesthetic webpages we churn out daily with joomla-artisteer combo... We are Bureze Technologies! |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by SalesTeam: 10:42am On Jan 04, 2013 |
Web design and development seems to me as a verse business,my direction is creativity differ..there should not be any fixed price, charge your client base on your creative ideas and secondly base on the client requirement.To me, it is not a problem to have as much developers who are developing website in Nigeria,we all are in the same mission of improving online business standard, if you are tired with the webdesign competition level, think of upgrading to mobile application development..or develop other cloud ERP application, if you find this line of business interesting than contact me for further discussion..hyginus.ug@gmail.com |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by Slyr0x: 11:12am On Jan 04, 2013 |
chiefkpokp: Not surprised at your kinda mentality. . What do we expect from a designer whose portfolio website osamediasolutions.com expired since 2012-12-19. Says so much about you. . SMH |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by Shigan: 11:23am On Jan 04, 2013 |
I have lost some jobs too, just like you. I think that what you're suggesting is tempting but will not work. I suggest focusing on mastering XHTML/CSS/Javascript well enough to churn out standards-compliant designs that you can reuse for various clients. Much like using your own hand-coded designs as templates for others. With CSS it's easy to quickly adapt designs to suit different scenarios. Cheers. |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by texazzpete(m): 11:34am On Jan 04, 2013 |
Slyr0x: Your comment says a lot about your level of intellectual poverty, to be honest. Everyone must use what works for them. If your skills and work output are so much better than his own, focus your energies on showing your clients just how much more they'd gain by going with you. If his 20k website met his client's needs, why the frag does it bother you? I swear, this is just as inane as someone at SLOT complaining about people buying 5k Dual SIM 'china' handsets. |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by Slyr0x: 12:13pm On Jan 04, 2013 |
texazzpete: A smart developer would rather budget for 1 site a month (Or 2 at most), charge high for that 1 site(relax 1 week of the month) than do 10 low-priced sites and never have time for himself. If after going to school to do what you are doing, paid school fees, paid for office accommodation, pay for fuel and you feel 20k/site is YOUR WORTH, then I have absolutely NOTHING against you. 3 Likes |
Re: A Ban On 10-49K Website Design by brightk(m): 12:24pm On Jan 04, 2013 |
Slyr0x:nice.....dont mind dem CMS,joomla and wordpress web administrators |
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