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Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by EvilBrain1(m): 3:12pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
From The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State: The historically unprecedented resignation of Joseph Ratzinger as Pope this week was compelled by an upcoming action by a European government to issue an arrest warrant against Ratzinger and a public lien against Vatican property and assets by Easter. http://itccs.org/2013/02/13/pope-benedict-resigned-to-avoid-arrest-seizure-of-church-wealth-by-easter/ |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by dorox(m): 3:26pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Wow! |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by PrettyPrisca(f): 3:35pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
SMH.... SMH.... |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by EvilBrain1(m): 3:36pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Apparently the European Union is finally willing to take action against the Vatican and its leadership on charges of criminal conspiracy for its systematic cover-ups of child molestation by its members and its protection of ped0phile priests. The catholic church has long behaved like a criminal organisation. Its leaders have a culture of r@ping and abusing children. The church leadership then covers these abuses up by pressuring victims and their families, by attempting to discredit those who come forward, by moving the priests around to avoid prosecution, and offering cash settlements when cornered in court. Regardless of anything else they do or did in the past, the catholic church is now essentially an international child molestation ring. They are an organised crime syndicate just like the Italian Mafia, except that the Mafia don’t r@pe children. Prosecutors have long turned a blind eye to their crimes likely because of the church's influence in government and law enforcement, but it seem that their luck has finally run out. For more coverage: http://www.salem-news.com/articles/february122013/pope-resigns.php http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/8314813/Retired-pope-immune-from-abuse-probes |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by EvilBrain1(m): 3:44pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
It seems that the mainstream press is deliberately turning a blind eye to this story. The news has been out for at least a few days and CNN, FOX and co are systematically ignoring it. I guess Catholics in positions of power are still doing their best to protect mother church. Which is exactly what got them into this mess in the first place. |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by confusion247(m): 3:46pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Day light dreaming. |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by wiegraf: 4:01pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Evil Brain: I burst out in an evil laugh at this, people staring at me and all. |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by Nobody: 4:10pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Evil Brain, I don't quite get number 2. Do you mind explaining? |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by rouleaux: 4:22pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Pondering. |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by EvilBrain1(m): 4:30pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Reyginus: Evil Brain, I don't quite get number 2. Do you mind explaining? The ITCCS managed to convince an unnamed European country to issue an arrest warrant against the pope. The country gave the Vatican the heads up on the Feb 4 that they were planning to issue an arrest warrant on Feb 15th. Once an EU country issues an arrest warrant, all other EU members are legally obligated to arrest the subject once he enters their territory. That means that Benedict/Ratzinger would be unable to travel around Europe and carry out his duty as pope without risking arrest. It also means any EU country that hosts him will be forced to either arrest him, or break EU law. The pope then decided or was forced to resign in order to avoid this. Resigning allows him to stay in Vatican city permanently where he is safe from prosecution. Capisce? |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by dorox(m): 4:39pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
This story appears to be just a conspiracy theory that is why it has not been carried by any main stream news organisation. 2 Likes |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by EvilBrain1(m): 4:43pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Aside from being the head of the Vatican, Benedict/Ratzinger has long been involved in the covering up of ped0phile scandals. As a cardinal, he was the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the catholic organisation that deals with such cases. In 1985, he wrote a letter asking that the "good of the universal church" be considered before sacking an American priest who had molested two boys. A few years ago, some British activists, including Richard Dawkins, tried to get the guy arrested on his last visit to the UK. The authorities failed to do their duty then, unfortunately. Thank goodness justice is finally prevailing. |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by Nobody: 4:52pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Evil Brain: I think this is absolute bulllshit because it DOESN'T add up. The article said church property will be confiscated and his successor prosecuted. His resignation then changes nothing. In my humble opinion, e go hard to arrest pope o. E go hard. |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by Nobody: 5:00pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Evil Brain:Okay. I understand now. Why am I having the feeling the story was made up. Not even al jazeera, nor Press Tv(an enemy) carried it. |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by EvilBrain1(m): 5:01pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Richfella: Its easier to arrest and prosecute Benedict because before he became pope, he was the head of the organisation directly responsible for dealing with child r@pe cases. To get the next pope, they'll have to start building another case against him from scratch. Plus the church can choose a pope that has few or no direct links to the cover-ups. Changing the pope is the best move the church can make right now. It doesn't solve the problem completely, but it buys them plenty of time, and reduces the likely damage to the church. In my humble opinion, e go hard to arrest pope o. E go hard. All you need is a pair of handcuffs and a small jail cell. What's hard about that? |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by EvilBrain1(m): 5:17pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Reyginus: Okay. I understand now. Why am I having the feeling the story was made up. Not even al jazeera, nor Press Tv(an enemy) carried it. Give them time. Big media houses would want to verify from multiple sources including the authorities planning the arrest. The problem is that its difficult to confirm that there are plans to issue a warrant until it actually happens. Plus its still possible the the church's powerful friends will still manage to stifle the process before it reaches fruition. In any case, we already know that priests have been r@ping children, that the church has been covering it up for decades, and that pope Benedict was directly involved. There is more than enough evidence to jail him and many of the other church leaders. If any other organization did what they did, they would be rounded up just like any other group of criminals. And remember that we are talking about children being abused. Why is it so far fetched to believe that the authorities are finally waking up to their responsibility? Benedict is the first pope in 598 years to resign. Plenty of others before him have gotten old and sick, yet they didn't resign. This is the best explanation available. |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by Nobody: 5:40pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Arrest ko handcuff ni!! It is even easier to arrest him as an ex-pope than as a serving pope with full diplomatic immunity. Seriously it is easier to arrest an american president than to arrest a pope.The news is so fake and not worthy of any attention that's why major news outlets totally ignored it. Europe even in this 21st century still has very large catholic populations.The church is still too influential for its leader to just be arrested.Catholics forms a substantial percentage of most of this european countries and even in the US there are over 70million catholics there. |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by Nobody: 5:54pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
You mean to tell me that the pope can be arrested in spain,portugal,poland,italy,ireland,france and other predominantly catholic nations? It is like ahmadinejad issuing an arrest warrant on ayotollah khomeni.Do you ever forsee such a scenario!! The political and civil implications would be very devsatating |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by EvilBrain1(m): 5:59pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
chukwudi44: You are assuming that people care more about the church than they do about protecting children from habitual ped0philes, which is far from certain. Child molesters are a special class of criminal. People will forgive almost anything, but when it comes to grown men doing dirty things to defenseless children a kind of red mist descends in front of their eyes. And we're not talking about one or two kids here. They've been literally thousands or cases, not including those who haven't come forward. Thousands of cases, over several decades occurring all around the world. Are you really sure people are going to be so eager to defend a bunch of child molesters or the corrupt organisation that facilitates r@pes and protect r@pists? I wouldn't be so confident. |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by tobechi20(m): 6:00pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
I dnt totaly belive pope benedict resignd önly because of old age. There is more to it. After pope john paul was much older than him |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by Nobody: 6:04pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Evil Brain: You are a complete slowpoke with a truly evil brain.Did u catch pope benedict molesting any child!! Who is going to be arrested for molestations going on in the protestant churches and in other non-church institutions? Is obama going to be arrested for child molestations happening in american government scools? Why don't you make use of ur brain for once. |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by EvilBrain1(m): 6:12pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
From Reuters: (Reuters) - Pope Benedict's decision to live in the Vatican after he resigns will provide him with security and privacy. It will also offer legal protection from any attempt to prosecute him in connection with sexual abuse cases around the world, Church sources and legal experts say. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/15/us-pope-resignation-immunity-idUSBRE91E0ZI20130215 Reuters is about as credible as news organisations get. Story confirmed! |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by Nobody: 6:19pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Evil Brain: From Reuters: This story from Reuters in no way substantiates this stupid conspiracy theory but rather makes mockery of it. The reuters source confirmed the pope has diplomatic immunity which he would loose by virtue of his resignation.If he was trying to evade arrest you really think he will resign and give up is immunity? Does it make sense to you!!! |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by Nobody: 6:28pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
@evil brain So the best way for a pope with diplomatic immunity from arrest and prosecution to evade arrest is to resign and give up his immunity? Do you reason @ all? Your hatred for the catholic church has beclouded your sense of reasoning!!! You go about googling links to substantiate your fantasies and will readily jump @ any one you think is close to that without even bothering to digest the contents!!! |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by Ubenedictus(m): 7:23pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Evil Brain: From The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State:this is a fluke, the pope esp d sitting pope is protected by international law, thus he posseses immunity, no country or group of countries can declear a sitting pope wanted. |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by Ubenedictus(m): 7:30pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Evil Brain: It seems that the mainstream press is deliberately turning a blind eye to this story. The news has been out for at least a few days and CNN, FOX and co are systematically ignoring it.foxnews isnt on d story, because it isnt a story. This is a fluke, no one is ignoring anything! |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by Ubenedictus(m): 7:35pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Evil Brain:actually this is a stupid story! Remaining pope would actually protect him from all prosecution, no country can arrest him without violating international law. So my dear, ur story is highly flawed. 1 Like |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by Nobody: 7:38pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Ubenedictus: this is a fluke, the pope esp d sitting pope is protected by international law, thus he posseses immunity, no country or group of countries can declear a sitting pope wanted. Your argument holds no water. The pope abdicated apparently because he did not want the arrest warrant ISSUED in the first place. The scandal and media interest an arrest warrant would have generated was unthinkable. His immunity does not stop an arrest warrant from being issued against him. But it can stop the warrant from being executed. |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by Ubenedictus(m): 7:38pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Evil Brain: Aside from being the head of the Vatican, Benedict/Ratzinger has long been involved in the covering up of ped0phile scandals. As a cardinal, he was the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the catholic organisation that deals with such cases. In 1985, he wrote a letter asking that the "good of the universal church" be considered before sacking an American priest who had molested two boys.dawkins cant make d police arrect ben becos benedict is immune from persecution. This is a conspiracy theory. And actually no one can prove razinger covered anything up. |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by EvilBrain1(m): 7:39pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
chukwudi44: @evil brain The purpose of the resignation is to protect the church, not the pope. When Benedict is no longer pope, it'll be harder to go after the church's property. Plus with a new pope,prosecutors will have to build a new case from scratch if they want to nail the big fish. And the church can protect itself by picking a pope that has fewer ties to the scandal. Benedict doesn't need any protection. As long as he stays within Vatican city, nobody can arrest him. |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by Ubenedictus(m): 7:41pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Reyginus: Okay. I understand now. Why am I having the feeling the story was made up. Not even al jazeera, nor Press Tv(an enemy) carried it.it was heavyly made up. |
Re: Pope Benedict Resigned To Avoid Arrest And Siezure Of Church Property by EvilBrain1(m): 7:45pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Ubenedictus: dawkins cant make d police arrect ben becos benedict is immune from persecution. This is a conspiracy theory. And actually no one can prove razinger covered anything up. Not every state recognizes the Vatican's statehood. It's not recognized by the UN for one, so his diplomatic immunity is suspect. |
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