J luv u: To understand what deliverance can do see Hebrew 11:3[b]5" women received their dead raised to life again,others were tortured not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection[/b]. that mean those that accept deliverance received their dead back to life again,dead what? dead marriages, relationship, career, businesses,finances, spiritual life,etc but those that refused deliverance were tortured. tortured of what? tortured of hardship, poverty,broken home, frustrations,lack of helper, loneliness,hatred,etc we all need deliverance. Being born again not withstanding, if not for anything else at least for spiritual recharge.if you have confessed Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior, it´s not automatic for you to be free from evil covenants,but a ticket for your freedom through deliverance in His Name.

ifihearam:

I am shocked at the way some of you think sha,no matter how born again you are,if the right things or steps are not followedthe devil will reside there forever, I saw a particular incidence 3 weeks ago in my church,this usher is as dedicated as ever but in the course of deliverance service the pastor pointed her out,meanwhile she was doing her job assisting those under going deliverance,you won't believe this born again christian started manifesting vis the evil and wicked spirit in her and sshe said they have been dwelling there for years bwhern she was born,and it was an agreement entered between them and the usher4 grand mother. My dear until you invite God,he will look the other way.

Why do you think most christian ladies encounter disappointment??its as a result of the spirit husband and until it is dealt with,they will remain there forever.

The reason your pastors preach otherwise is either of the following reasons:

1)They have a pact with demons or
2)They are not powerful enough to challenge them hence they use that scriptures to deceive you.

Goshen360: Those who go for deliverance ARE NOT CHRISTIANS. They might be 'church -goers' BUT NOT CHRISTIANS. I do not say that to condemn anyone but CHRISTIANS ARE ALREADY DELIVERED IN THEIR NEWNESS OF LIFE IN CHRIST. You attend deliverance week in week out, what happened to the first deliverance session you attended. Christianity is NOT giving your life to Christ, Christianity is CHRIST GIVING HIS LIFE TO YOU AND YOU LIVING THE LIFE OF CHRIST....."I came, that they may have life and have it more abundantly"....In him was life; and the life was the light of men. John 1:4....I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20

akin emma: most of the work Jesus did on earth was to conduct deliverance for those that are opressed by the devil.you may say you don't need deliverance as a christian but i want you to answer the following questions.As anointed as Moses was,how did the spirit of anger entered his life?how come the spirit of immorality is still dwelling in Samson despite his anointing?If evil spirits such as these can dwell in the lives of anointed men,then where else can they not dwell.Remember,that the anger of Moses entered into his life through his ancestral lineage i.e Levi.I must also say that it is possible to live a demon free life but that will occur only after you have cast out every demons within you and at the same time closed every doors that they are using to gain access into your life by receving the baptism of the Holy ghost.

J luv u: To understand what deliverance can do see Hebrew 11:3[b]5" women received their dead raised to life again,others were tortured not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection[/b]. that mean those that accept deliverance received their dead back to life again,dead what? dead marriages, relationship, career, businesses,finances, spiritual life,etc but those that refused deliverance were tortured. tortured of what? tortured of hardship, poverty,broken home, frustrations,lack of helper, loneliness,hatred,etc we all need deliverance. Being born again not withstanding, if not for anything else at least for spiritual recharge.if you have confessed Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior, it´s not automatic for you to be free from evil covenants,but a ticket for your freedom through deliverance in His Name.

J luv u: According to 2chorithians 5:17¨"if any man be in Christ he is a new creature old things are past away,behold all things are become new" while obadiah 17 says"upon mount zion there shall be deliverance and there shall holiness and the house of Jacob shall posses their possesions" what is your view on this scriptures?

m.k.o2005:

I believe you can cast out demons from some one who is posses ! If my Jesus did it,and said greater works shall i do,i see no reason why i will say that there is nothing like casting out demons from some one who is possess !
Deliverance has got to do with hearing of the word to be saved or delivered !
God bless us

akin emma: most of the work Jesus did on earth was to conduct deliverance for those that are opressed by the devil.you may say you don't need deliverance as a christian but i want you to answer the following questions.As anointed as Moses was,how did the spirit of anger entered his life?how come the spirit of immorality is still dwelling in Samson despite his anointing?If evil spirits such as these can dwell in the lives of anointed men,then where else can they not dwell.Remember,that the anger of Moses entered into his life through his ancestral lineage i.e Levi.I must also say that it is possible to live a demon free life but that will occur only after you have cast out every demons within you and at the same time closed every doors that they are using to gain access into your life by receving the baptism of the Holy ghost.

Goshen360: Lord! I can see many professed Christians are very far from what Christianity is about. Many people are still practicing CHURCHianity thinking that is Christianity.

People come to Christ but rather than believe what Christ did to set them free in this new creation life, they believe what one their ancestors did to keep them in bondage.

ifihearam:

I am shocked at the way some of you think sha,no matter how born again you are,if the right things or steps are not followedthe devil will reside there forever, I saw a particular incidence 3 weeks ago in my church,this usher is as dedicated as ever but in the course of deliverance service the pastor pointed her out,meanwhile she was doing her job assisting those under going deliverance,you won't believe this born again christian started manifesting vis the evil and wicked spirit in her and sshe said they have been dwelling there for years bwhern she was born,and it was an agreement entered between them and the usher4 grand mother. My dear until you invite God,he will look the other way.

Why do you think most christian ladies encounter disappointment??its as a result of the spirit husband and until it is dealt with,they will remain there forever.

The reason your pastors preach otherwise is either of the following reasons:

1)They have a pact with demons or
2)They are not powerful enough to challenge them hence they use that scriptures to deceive you.

agb2011:

u ar wrong. Salvation does not exempt us from spiritual attacks but it only gives us the weapon to fight with.

U ar right if u say dt once u ar in Christ u don't really need deliverance. But do u know dt u must av reached a certain level spiritually wt God. Take a man who just got born again and repents from d sin of masturbation, he'l need deliverance to break d chemically reaction he has set in motion in his brain. A man whose father has dedicated to a god needs deliverance.
Even a good christian needs deliverance (a combination of fasting and prayer) for spiritual strength. Even Jesus mentioned dt some demons can only b cast out wt fasting and prayer. Jesus' ministry was majorly a deliverance ministry.

Chiefpriest: my dear you cant do anything you cant even pray 4them because they attend mfm,chosen and the likes ,even rev kings followers are still waiting for his return.you and goshen have made your point let just celebrate the fact that we are lucky and be grate full to God for the priviledge.[color=#990000][/color]

anitank: No

But I believe there is evil in this world and we need to constantly pray for God's all round protection against the wicked forces of wretchedness,poverty,curses,sickness and untimely death

Deliverance by a pastor or priest will make no difference if the individual is not spiritually equipped, and that means praying fervently

J luv u: To understand what deliverance can do see Hebrew 11:3[b]5" women received their dead raised to life again,others were tortured not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection[/b]. that mean those that accept deliverance received their dead back to life again,dead what? dead marriages, relationship, career, businesses,finances, spiritual life,etc but those that refused deliverance were tortured. tortured of what? tortured of hardship, poverty,broken home, frustrations,lack of helper, loneliness,hatred,etc we all need deliverance. Being born again not withstanding, if not for anything else at least for spiritual recharge.if you have confessed Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior, it´s not automatic for you to be free from evil covenants,but a ticket for your freedom through deliverance in His Name.

christemmbassey: please go back and study, Hebrews 11 its about FAITH and NOT about deliverance. God bless.

nlMediator: I am all for the view that we need to pattern our lives after the NT church and anchor our beliefs on what is written in the New Testament. I caution, however, against the danger of extremes, which lead us into thinking that something is right or wrong simply because we cannot find an example of it in the NT. For one, the Bible is both a revelational and “historical” book, by which I mean that the Bible contains stories of events from which certain principles can be distilled. Yet, the Bible is not about manufacturing stories. In other words, if something did not happen, the Bible may not tell about it. If early Christians were not demonized, the Bible cannot include such stories. The conclusion we draw then may be that Christians cannot be demonized. But it could also be that the early Christians were not demonized. That would call for us to dig deeper and find out why, instead of sticking to one, and discounting any other plausible, explanation.

All my Christian life, I would say that I have been more sympathetic with the side that states that a Christian cannot be oppressed or obsessed (I think everybody believes that a Christian cannot be possessed – which is full control by the devil – so I leave that). Of late, I’m not quick to dismiss the opposing view. And I thought about this question of whether Christians need deliverance, something dropped in my heart asking: “what of Simon the sorcerer?” To tell you the truth, it’s been long since I read his story and I don’t think I’ve ever studied it. I decided to go to Acts 8 and also do a bit of Bible study on that story. I’ll share what I learnt subsequently. I’ll like my brothers and sisters here to join me in the study. I’m not claiming any deep revelation and I certainly do not want to mislead anybody.

I should also add that if I want to go by experience, I can conclude today that Christians can be demonized and need freedom if they find themselves in such a state. But I do not want to base my position primarily on experience. Without the support of the Word of God, I’d be bothered about any experience, no matter how beautiful and well-intentioned it is.

nlMediator: I am all for the view that we need to pattern our lives after the NT church and anchor our beliefs on what is written in the New Testament. I caution, however, against the danger of extremes, which lead us into thinking that something is right or wrong simply because we cannot find an example of it in the NT. For one, the Bible is both a revelational and “historical” book, by which I mean that the Bible contains stories of events from which certain principles can be distilled. Yet, the Bible is not about manufacturing stories. In other words, if something did not happen, the Bible may not tell about it. If early Christians were not demonized, the Bible cannot include such stories. The conclusion we draw then may be that Christians cannot be demonized. But it could also be that the early Christians were not demonized. That would call for us to dig deeper and find out why, instead of sticking to one, and discounting any other plausible, explanation.

All my Christian life, I would say that I have been more sympathetic with the side that states that a Christian cannot be oppressed or obsessed (I think everybody believes that a Christian cannot be possessed – which is full control by the devil – so I leave that). Of late, I’m not quick to dismiss the opposing view. And I thought about this question of whether Christians need deliverance, something dropped in my heart asking: “what of Simon the sorcerer?” To tell you the truth, it’s been long since I read his story and I don’t think I’ve ever studied it. I decided to go to Acts 8 and also do a bit of Bible study on that story. I’ll share what I learnt subsequently. I’ll like my brothers and sisters here to join me in the study. I’m not claiming any deep revelation and I certainly do not want to mislead anybody.

I should also add that if I want to go by experience, I can conclude today that Christians can be demonized and need freedom if they find themselves in such a state. But I do not want to base my position primarily on experience. Without the support of the Word of God, I’d be bothered about any experience, no matter how beautiful and well-intentioned it is.

Bidam: God bless you bro... A balanced understanding of scriptures...the Christian faith is both revelational and experiential.

Chuksxp:

The thing about Simon is that he never was a true Christian. Yea sure, v.13 says that he believed. But that's no different from the "easy believism" we see rampant today. People who merely believe in Jesus but don't truly repent of sin. And of course, we saw Peter's testimony of Simon. He said to Him, "...your heart is not right before God... you are full of bitterness and captive to sin." This doesn't sound like a Christian attribute to me.

In addition, Simon was a sorcerer before the he heard the Apostle preach the gospel. So, obviously he wasn't a Christian when the devil was working heavily on him.

Chuksxp:

The thing about Simon is that he never was a true Christian. Yea sure, v.13 says that he believed. But that's no different from the "easy believism" we see rampant today. People who merely believe in Jesus but don't truly repent of sin. And of course, we saw Peter's testimony of Simon. He said to Him, "...your heart is not right before God... you are full of bitterness and captive to sin." This doesn't sound like a Christian attribute to me.

In addition, Simon was a sorcerer before the he heard the Apostle preach the gospel. So, obviously he wasn't a Christian when the devil was working heavily on him.