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| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by JayFK(m): 7:44pm On Mar 26, 2008 |
May kelly: Thank you very much for using The Bible to prove that a Biblical story indeed happened "IRL" (in real life). Thank you, because now I believe due to the fact that it's written in the bible, lol not because its implausible but because it's written in a story book. |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by SunGod1: 9:00pm On Mar 26, 2008 |
@may kelly You really want me to embarrass you and expose this conjecture about the noah's ark? Well since your a willing volunteer, i wont want you deprive you of the pains you willingly want to go through by defending such absurdities. 1. From your passages, i discovered you jumped the gun and went staright to gear 4 without even turning on the ignition key. Your first line of defense to my post was: Genesis 7:1 Excuse me! But huh, how did the ark get there? Did it just mysteriously drop from heaven or what? Or it just appeared from no where? Why do you christians love to redact and re-edit the bible whenever it suits your needs. Why are you avoiding to quote the relevant part of the noah's ark story which deals with the size and measurement of the ark which noah was told to build with his 3 sons and wives? Like i said, you jumped the gun so am dismissing your nonsense and appalling defense with a wave of the hand. You christians think you can re script and re edit everything without others noticing the flaws, Rubbish! To rephrase my earlier post in a very clear and concise way, i will bring out all the flaws in your argument and expose this story as the sham of the century which must be clearly rejected by all right thinking members of the society: 1. Why I don't (and, indeed, can't) accept the story of Noah's Ark as any sort of fact; and why I'm astonished that many educated adults consider it to be history and not mythology. For me, it is one of the least believable parts of the entire Bible, and any theist who attempts to use it convert someone will have a hard job on their hands. Let's look at it: Noah (at the ripe old age of 600!) and his sons built, using their bare hands, a seagoing vessel large enough to comfortably house a breeding pair of every land animal on the planet (although the bible isn't clear on this; in one place it says a pair of each creature, a few verses away it says seven of each clean, and two of each unclean creature (how did Noah know if tigers, kangaroos and penguins are clean or unclean?)), for at least forty days. Diabolically imbecilic to say the least Okay, so what are the problems with this :- [size=16pt]The Ark itself[/size] 1. This boat would have had to have been bigger than a super-tanker! 2. There are MILLIONS of species on the land. There are over three hundred and fifty thousand species of beetle alone. The sheer number of insects would fill several arks, before you even consider the larger creatures. The ark would have to be the single largest ship ever in the history of the world. Modern technology could not possibly create a ship large and stable enough to act as Noah's Ark (the only plausible explanation is that Noah would have needed a space-suit to walk on the deck!).  Many species of land animal require highly specialised habitat and food to survive. 3. Koalas, for instance, eat one kilogram of fresh Eucalyptus- tree leaves per day, which provide all their water and nutrition (some people have suggested Noah had a year's supply of dried Euc. leaves. But Koalas need the leaves for their water. What did Noah do? Rehydrate them? With what, a desalination plant? Hold them out in the rain every morning?)  4. Also, no matter what time of year it was, many creatures would be hibernating (it's always winter somewhere on the globe). Many creatures are only found on one continent, indeed some are limited to a small island/forest/mountain. It's a neat trick to be able to walk thousands of miles to the Middle East if you're hibernating on a remote island near Alaska. 5. How could the ark cope with all the specialised requirements of food/environment for millions of creatures? The 320 different species of humming-bird, for example, have very high metabolic rates and have to consume large amounts of nectar throughout the day. The Ark would have had to cater for 640 humming-birds, requiring an almost constant supply of fresh nectar. From flowers. Which wouldn't grow in great abundance in a dark, damp boat. 6. How could the ark cope with disposing of the waste products of those creatures? In case you dont know what waste product is, it means Shit! 7. It must have had an incredibly advanced plumbing and ventilation system, superior to anything to be found on modern ocean liners or large military vessels (eg. aircraft carriers). One problem that dairy farmers have is that vast quantities of fresh dung produce highly toxic gases (falling into the slurry pit can be fatal because of this), and it would have been many times worse on an Ark. 8. Next time you are at a zoo, ask one of the keepers how easy it is to deal with the needs of the few hundred animals they have for a month, and then imagine scaling that up to a gigantic floating zoo with millions of creatures being looked after by one old man and his family. 9. Where did Noah find the pitch to waterproof the Ark with? Flood theorists say that all the world's oil / petroleum deposits were formed during the Flood. How could Noah find and use pitch to waterproof the Ark before the Flood, when the pitch was formed during the Flood? Did he have SCUBA gear as well, and kept diving down to gather fresh pitch from the ocean floor and apply it to the Ark while it was floating around? Pitch is a petroleum deposit, which takes more than a couple of thousand years to form. (Some people argue that "wood-pitch" was used instead, although the commonly held belief is that it was petroleum-pitch). Using modern equipment, it can take a good shipyard years to build a large ship, using hundreds of men. Noah (five hundred years old at the time) apparently had himself, a few helpers and a lot of gopher-wood trees. Christians and the bible expect us to believe that he built the Ark, using crude hand-tools, over a period of many years in a world filled with evil, scheming criminals. Remember one of the reasons god told noah to build the ark was because, ("The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence."  Here are a few of the things he would have had to deal with (some of these have been suggested by readers of this page): 10. Wood rotting. Left out in the open, the partly-built Ark would be exposed to the elements, such as rain, wind, lightning (a large structure is likely to get struck quite often, and wood burns), fungus, termites and ravenous beavers (well, maybe not beavers). Maybe he first built a huge hangar in which he could construct it safely? Maybe just the one exactly the size of Virgin Nigeria's Air hangar! hat would have almost be as great an enterprise as the Ark itself! The last time i saw a ship this big was during star trek when obiwan and darth vadar , well that's another story for tomorrow, lol Unfortunately, the Bible does not enlighten us as to the whereabouts of Noah's Shed. I guess it was washed away in the Flood,  Theft and vandalism. The hordes of fiendish deviants living around Noah at the time would no doubt have had enjoyed enormous sinful fun by sabotaging the Ark, stealing the wood for themselves (why cut and prepare your own wood when Noah's done the job for you?) and harassing the few workers. [size=22pt]PART 2[/size] [size=14pt]THE FLOOD[/size] Then we come to the flood itself. The bible states that all mountains were covered, until they were about twenty feet below water. This also rules out the idea that it was somehow a local flood, confined to the Middle East (the most bizarre explanation I have heard along these lines is that Mars came close to the Earth, and it's gravitational pull raised up a dome of water in the region. The problems with this are too many to even think about.) Some people might find it a little odd that God, omnipotent being who can create entire galaxies in an instant, takes weeks and weeks to flood the planet. Perhaps water is a bit fiddly to create? How much water was there? And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered. Over the top of Mt. Everest then? The volume of water would have been astronomical. Millions of cubic miles. Where did it come from? Where did it go? The polar ice-caps are not big enough. The atmosphere does not contain millions of cubic miles of water. Using a bit of armchair maths, we can roughly calculate how much water would have been needed to cover the planet to the top of Mt. Everest: The radius of the Earth is approx. 6370km Many Ark-theorists claim that scale models of the Ark have been built according to the Biblical specifications, and found to be extremely sea-worthy in test-tanks. I hope that these tests also attempted to simulate the correct amount of rainfall by aiming several high-pressure fire-hoses directly at the model. Assuming it was fresh water (as it rained) this would have severely diluted the oceans, causing devastation among the marine creatures. Ask anyone with a marine fish-tank just how sensitive reef-fish and corals are to changes in water conditions. Virtually all sea-life that could not stand brackish water would have been destroyed. How did so many plants survive being submerged in brackish water for so long? Again, many plants are quite sensitive to conditions. Take some of your household plants and leave them submerged in the bath or a pond for a year and see how they do. Then, after the waters subside (where to?) there are still more problems with the story. What happened to all the corpses of the countless numbers of animals and humans that died? Surely there would have been terrible plague and disease caused by all that rotting meat. Ask the all knowing christians o! Many sea-creatures would have been deposited in places they could not normally reach - inland lakes etc. Is there any evidence of marine fish skeletons being found in high, freshwater lake beds? One imaginative way of explaining away the water is that the Earth was a lot flatter back then - the mountains were very low and the seas very shallow. After the Flood, God raised the mountains and sank the ocean floors, reducing the land area and creating space for the water to drain away to. As usual, there is no evidence to support this notion, and it also raises more questions. For example, how did the deep-ocean sea creatures come about? There are plenty of fish than can only survive at the great pressures on the ocean bottoms, the abyssal plains. These could not have existed before the Flood, as the oceans were apparently too shallow. Maybe they evolved after the Flood (in an incredibly short time)? Maybe Satan created them (after all, they are all really ugly with lots of teeth)? Funny how creationists use evolution (and other branches of science) when it suits them, but denounce it as Satanic Lies the rest of the time, Many claims are made for sighting of the remains of the Ark in the mountains of Turkey. These Ark-pieces are supposed to be about nine thousand feet up the side of one precipitous mountain or another (usually Ararat). Now, these mountains are not gently rolling hills. They're huge great things covered with snow and full of jagged crevices. The mountain-goats, birds and flying squirrels could have probably got down safely (as long as they didn't freeze or starve on the way), but elephants, penguins, camels and crocodiles are not noted for their natural mountaineering ability. Once again this defiles the laws of physics, biology, geography and science all at once [size=22pt]PART 3[/size] [size=14pt]The Animals[/size] Next, I have to ask how all the creatures managed to get back to their original habitats, or at least ones that would support them. How did the koalas and kangaroos get back to Australia? How did the polar bears and penguins get back the north/south poles? How did the giant tortoises get back to the Galapagos islands? How did the flightless dodos get back to Mauritius? How did the army ants get back to the Amazon rain-forests? As there were only two (or seven, depending) of each species, how did they manage to travel thousands of miles back to their place of origin without being eaten, dying in accidents or of starving to death due to lack of their normal (specialised) food supply? Of course, not all the animals were able to get away. According to Genesis 8:20 Noah immediately sacrificed at least one of each pair of clean animal! That could have potentially been a lot of animals. Seems a bit pointless, really. After all, God told him to build the Ark - it would appear to be rather unnecessary to thank God afterwards for looking after the Ark, and thanking God by slaughtering His creations and producing a huge pile of bloody corpses seems a little odd, So, that's the "clean" breeding pairs ruined (or reduced considerably if there were seven). Unless of course they were breeding/pregnant during the voyage. But then, how did the Ark cope with all the extra mouths to feed? Some creationists have come up with quite remarkably imaginative explanations as to how Noah managed to gather and store all the animals in a restricted space. A couple of the more interesting ones I've come across are: These are some of the following dumb and stupid excuses profered by christians to justify their claims He did not take adult animals, but eggs, babies and infants. [size=22pt]PART 4[/size] [size=14pt]DISEASES[/size] Some of the "animals" that are usually left out of the story are microorganisms (germs, bacteria, disease-bugs and so on). Many bacteria, viruses and parasites spend their entire life-cycles within a specific host species. This means that all the humans, plants and animals on the Ark would have had to be carriers for all the species-specific diseases that we have today (presumably, someone on the Ark carried HIV/AIDS, someone else had hepatitis, and another had several strains of influenza). The Ark would have been a gigantic, disease-ridden plague-ship . Of course, maybe all modern diseases turbo-evolved after the Flood subsided (like the beetles : see below) - which makes you wonder how the surviving creatures managed to survive long enough to populate the world at all, So, next time someone who doesn't accept evolution asks you where AIDS came from, pick up your Bible and turn to Genesis, Noah had it in his pocket! [size=22pt]PART 5[/size] [size=14pt]PEOPLE[/size] Once Noah had seen all the animals off, he then had to set about repopulating the world. Again, incest in the bible rears it's ugly head.  Noah's family had to inbreed to have children. Sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, first cousins and first cousins (as Noah's sons had their wives with them - eight people altogether) all nicely mixed together Talk about the worlds biggest family incest ORGY, Hmmm, Noah and his kids must have been some very Hot freaks (just as an aside, as all people before Noah were now dead, how does anyone know if the other events in the O.T. are true? We only have Noah's word for it, surely?). The human race effectively began again with Noah & co. Makes you wonder why the omniscient God even bothered with Adam & Eve. Why not start straight away with Noah? It's also interesting to note that after the Flood, one of the first things the pure and virtuous Noah did was to make some wine, get drunk and roll around naked (Gen 9:21). Well, I suppose sailors always like to unwind a little after a long sea voyage, Talk about christians who say being a shakis man is not a good thing, lol, Daddy noah started it all In fact i could go on and on and on to demystify this Noachian Deluge. Please Christians just accept this gaffe and stop embarrassing yourselves with implausible excuses. This is what you get when you try and ram rod religion into the throats of unbelievers. You end up getting disgraced and more importantly in a very shameful way. All the excuses of it being read in a literal way lacks substance because according to christians, its the word of god and god doesnt speak literally. After analysing this bullshit carefully can you still believe that it was an intelligent person that wrote this crap or some primitive goat herder somewhere in Afghanistan that has been able to bamboozle the whole of christianity for the last 5,000 years or so! May kelly, your case has been dishonorably and disgracefully dismissed! Next! |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by IDINRETE: 5:07am On Mar 27, 2008 |
sun god! sun god!! sun god!!! na wao e don do haba! may the spirit of Ingersoll be with u |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by Maykelly(f): 12:14pm On Mar 27, 2008 |
Sun God: THE FOOL'S MESSAGE Psalm 92:6 , The senseless man does not know, fools do not understand, Psalm 94:8 , Take heed, you senseless ones among the people; you fools, when will you become wise? Psalm 107:17 , Some became fools through their rebellious ways and suffered affliction because of their iniquities. Proverbs 1:7 , The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline. Proverbs 1:32 , For the waywardness of the simple will kill them, and the complacency of[b] fools [/b] will destroy them; Proverbs 3:35 , The wise inherit honor, but fools he holds up to shame. Proverbs 10:1 , A wise son brings joy to his father, but a foolish son grief to his mother. Proverbs 10:8 , The wise in heart accept commands, but a chattering fool comes to ruin. Proverbs 10:14 , Wise men store up knowledge, but the mouth of a fool invites ruin. Proverbs 10:23 A fool finds pleasure in evil conduct, but a man of understanding delights in wisdom. Proverbs 11:29 , He who brings trouble on his family will inherit only wind, and the fool will be servant to the wise. Proverbs 12:15 , The way of a fool seems right to him, but a wise man listens to advice. Proverbs 12:23 , A prudent man keeps his knowledge to himself, but the heart of fools blurts out folly. Proverbs 13:16 , Every prudent man acts out of knowledge, but a fool exposes his folly. Proverbs 13:19 , A longing fulfilled is sweet to the soul, but[b] fools [/b] detest turning from evil. Proverbs 13:20 , He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm. Proverbs 14:3 , A fool's talk brings a rod to his back, but the lips of the wise protect them. Proverbs 14:7 , Stay away from a foolish man, for you will not find knowledge on his lips. Proverbs 15:2 , The tongue of the wise commends knowledge, but the mouth of the fool gushes folly. Proverbs 15:7 ,) The lips of the wise spread knowledge; not so the hearts of[b] fools. [/b] Proverbs 15:14 , The discerning heart seeks knowledge, but the mouth of a fool feeds on folly. Proverbs 17:16 , Of what use is money in the hand of a fool, since he has no desire to get wisdom? Proverbs 17:21 , To have a fool for a son brings grief; there is no joy for the father of a fool. Proverbs 17:24 ,) A discerning man keeps wisdom in view, but a fool's eyes wander to the ends of the earth. Proverbs 17:25 , A foolish son brings grief to his father and bitterness to the one who bore him. Proverbs 18:2 , A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own opinions. Proverbs 23:9 , Do not speak to a fool, for he will scorn the wisdom of your words. Proverbs 24:7 , Wisdom is too high for a fool; in the assembly at the gate he has nothing to say. Proverbs 26:1 , Like snow in summer or rain in harvest, honor is not fitting for a fool. Proverbs 26:4 , Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you will be like him yourself. Proverbs 26:5 , Answer a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes. Proverbs 26:6 , Like cutting off one's feet or drinking violence is the sending of a message by the hand of a fool. Proverbs 26:7 , Like a lame man's legs that hang limp is a proverb in the mouth of a fool. Proverbs 26:8 , Like tying a stone in a sling is the giving of honor to a fool. Proverbs 26:12 ,) Do you see a man wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him. Proverbs 28:26 ,) He who trusts in himself is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom is kept safe. Proverbs 29:9 , If a wise man goes to court with a fool, the fool rages and scoffs, and there is no peace. Ecclesiastes 10:3 Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. Ecclesiastes 9:17 The quiet words of the wise are more to be heeded than the shouts of a ruler of fools. Ecclesiastes 7:5 It is better to heed a wise man's rebuke than to listen to the song of fools. |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by bawomolo(m): 5:32pm On Mar 27, 2008 |
so your response to scientific facts is a bunch of bible passages.  |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by SunGod1: 6:14pm On Mar 27, 2008 |
May kelly: Wow Mary Kelly! You have out done yourself this time!  All these biblical quotations all for me? Damn, Your good, but i am better and will always be one step ahead of you in the game ! Am sure Christian apologists have been grining and flashing a huge smile with these words of woes unto me, hmm Ok time to make you shut up and make you wonder how such a god can do all the following: Keep in mind that its only your god and the bible i am quoting verbatim and unlike christianity, i am not fabricating anything. Now if you think SUN GOD is bad, i am about to expose your biblical heroes as the KING PINS OF NEFARIOUS ACTIVITES AND ROLE MODELS OF EVIL AND SHAME These individuals who are not only well known but committed a wider assortment of dis-speakable criminal activities: [size=16pt]ABRAHAM[/size]-- told his wife to lie (Gen. 12:13), , Bloody Liar debauched Hagar, his maidservant (Gen. 16:4), , Pervert sent his maidservant and her child into the wilderness (Gen. 21:14), Very Inhumane lied (Gen. 20:2),, Still Polishing his lying skills married his half-sister (Gen. 20:11-12);, Freaking Pervert and Incestous in nature [size=16pt]SAUL[/size]--, Another bible favourite used his daughters as a snare (1 Sam. 8:20-21 NIV), , How Cruel can one be? Using your kids as a Trap? ordered gambling (1 Sam. 14:42), , Now why do christian pastors denounce Gambling? killed (1 Sam. 15:7-8, 20, 22:18-21), , Murderer stripped himself and acted unstable (1Sam. 19:24), , Lunatic and Mentally Deluded admitted he sinned, played the fool and erred (1 Sam.26:21), , Hmm, Let me see, huh, He sinned ok big deal and he was a fool ( Contrary to mary kelly's quotes that i am the only fool, lol) gave David's wife to another man (1 Sam. 25:44), , This give is a Porn freak transgressed God by consulting a medium and being unfaithful (1 Chron. 10:13-14 RSV), , This guy actually consulted native doctors! GIVE IT UP FOLKS FOR DAVID.THE ROLE MODEL OF CHRISTIANS THAT WE ALL GREW UP TO KNOW BUT THE PASTORS CONVIENTLY FORGOT TO REMIND US OF THESE NEFARIOUS DEEDS OF OUR ESTEEMED HERO!  --[size=16pt]2. SOLOMON[/size]--, Another bible favourite ordered murders (1 Kings 2:25 RSV, 2:34, 46), , Hmmm God seems to like Murderers a lot tried to kill Jeroboam (1 Kings 11:40), , Attempted Murderer too ( not bad) enslaved people (1 Kings 9:21 RSV), , ( Wicked Man) No wonder a lot of Nigerian christians love the houseboy/ house girl syndrome, They learnt it from Solomon, lol did not keep God's statutes or covenant (1 Kings 11:11 RSV), , And your saying SUN GOD is Mocking god when god's own favoured child rebelled against him, lol, How hypocritical can you be did evil (1 Kings 11:6), , Why am i not suprised? lied to his mother (1 Kings 2:20-21 RSV, 2:25), Now what happened to the honor thy mother and father commandment? SOLOMON IS DEFINATELY A GOOD ROLE MODEL TO FOLLOW! Solomon my hero! Now the King pin of them all. The ANINI, ABACHA, HITLER AND EVERY NEFARIOUS LEADER YOU CAN THINK OF: --[size=16pt]. MOSES[/size]--, According to 2 Chron. 30:16 Moses was the Man of God; yet, he, murdered an Egyptian (Ex. 2:12), , god loves these murderers so much ordered an armed attack (Num. 31:3, 6), , loves to go to war, i see him as a george bush reincarnation ordered the murder of prisoners (Num. 31:17), , Only Wicked Dictators do this. , Abacha, hitler, Pol Pot, Charles taylor, ( A club of infamous leaders) ordered the keeping of young female prisoners for several reasons (Num. 31:17), , Hmmm, i think he was just sex starved led mass killings of women and children (Deut. 2:34, 3:3, 6), , Does a certain Hitler and Saddam ring a bell? ordered killings (Deut. 13:15, 20:13), , Damn, wont this jerk just chill out for once and stop the Killings blasphemously wrote he was a greater prophet than Jesus (Deut. 34:10 NASB), Hey, when 2 imaginary elephants fight, you definately dont know who to believe had a son out of wedlock (Ex. 2:21-22), , Randy Hot fellow! was excluded by God from Canaan for four different reasons: unbelief (Num 20:12), , And your calling SUN GOD A FOOL rebellion (Num. 27:12-14 RSV), , Hey Moses, we can make you the leader of the Rational response squad if your still interested mate, lol trespassing (Deut. 13:51-52), , Now why would a holy man attempt to tresspass? rash words (Psalm 106:32-33 NIV), Hmm i see where Mary kelly gets her Inspirations from David, Despite all of the above, no individual in the Bible had a more disreputable, more scandalous career. Although the recipient of numerous accolades: He killed (1 Sam. 17:50-51 RSV, 18:7, 27, 19:8, 23:5, 30:17, 2 Sam. 8:1, 2, 5, 13), ordered murders (2 Sam. 1:15, 4:5-12), ordered prisoners to be killed (2 Sam. 12:2931, 1 Chron. 20:3, 2 Sam. 8:1-2), committed unprovoked aggression and mass killing (1 Sam. 27:8-11, 2 Sam. 5:20, 25), gave up seven of Saul's descendants to be killed (2 Sam. 21:1-6, 9), requested that Joab be killed (1 Kings 2:5-6), intentionally arranged for Uriah to be killed in order to seize his wife (2 Sam. 11:14-17), displeased the Lord (2 Sam. 11:26-27), impregnated another man's wife, committing adultery in the process (2 Sam. 11:2-5), wasn't allowed to build God's house because he was a man of war and bloodshed (1 Chron. 22:7-  , lied (1 Sam. 21:1-2, 27:8-10), told Jonathan to lie (1 Sam. 20:5-6), admitted he sinned by taking a census (2 Sam. 24:10, 17, 1 Chron. 21: 8, 17) committed extortion (1 Sam. 25:2- , prophesied incorrectly in his heart (1 Sam. 27:1), sent out a spy (2 Sam. 16:36), hamstrung horses (2 Sam. 8:4), locked up 10 concubines for life for no apparent reason (2 Sam. 20:3), committed bigamy (2 Sam. 3:2-3), committed polygamy (2 Sam. 5:12), despised the word of the Lord (2 Sam. 12: 9-11), admitted he sinned by causing Uriah's death and taking his wife (2 Sam. 12:13-14), exposed himself like a pervert (2 Sam. 6:20). Anyone approaching the Bible for goodness, decency, role models, and morality, enters at his own peril. The Bible is a festering pit of evil. The Bible is so full of contradictions, in so many different areas, it is astounding how intelligent people can still claim it to be inerrant. One must wonder to the level of mental scaring such lies they tell themselves has caused. The Bible claims, ", and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd." (John 10:16) With all the contradictions of the Bible, is it a wonder why this has never materialized? Any way one can easily understand how a book as inconsistent as the Bible has given rise to more that fifteen hundred separate Christian denominations. The deficiency lies not so much with the preachers as the book from which they preach. Please Mary Kelly, be kind enough to post more christian passages. I would love to exchange more with you because i have got tons of them to give you. Once again, Mary kelly, your no match for me. I know your ego has been badly bruised but you asked for it! |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by bawomolo(m): 12:25am On Mar 28, 2008 |
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| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by Nobody: 12:40am On Mar 28, 2008 |
I belong to the RATIONAL RESPONSE SQUAD! THINK and STOP BEING BAMBOOZLEDimagine this to be Sun God's signature.any one gone thriugh his recent posts? any correlation? |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by SunGod1: 1:18am On Mar 28, 2008 |
ouch i guess some is really getting edgy with all this jesus mumbo jumbo, lol |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by SunGod1: 1:21am On Mar 28, 2008 |
olrotimi: Yikes! I guess since none of you Religious fundamentalists have anything up there to refute historical and scientific arguments to refute the rationality of the bible or koran, it would not do me any harm to make fun of your delusional state until i meet someone that can profer worthy rational arguments otherwise. I would be wasting my time trying to be sane with you as my boy "bawomolo" as advised me. You guys need a healthy dose of mockery and innuendoes in your lives before you wake up from your highly advanced state of delirium. Common question about the possibility of noah's ark being a reality has brought about the densest of answers from so called sensible christians and you expect me to be as rational with imbeciles with such moronic views, lol This is laughable to say the least ! let me hurry along before you finish me with one of your curses and wrath ridden passages from the bible! |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by Maykelly(f): 1:41pm On Apr 02, 2008 |
Sun God: Jude 1:11 Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for[b] profit into Balaam's error[/b]; they have been destroyed in Korah's rebellion. Corinthians 6:14 [ Do Not Be Yoked With Unbelievers ] Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? Sungod's signature I Sungod now believe that Noah's ARK is beyond my understanding. I Sungod will stop striving with my maker GOD. Please God I Sungod need your WISDOM and UNDERSTANDING. |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by Maykelly(f): 1:56pm On Apr 02, 2008 |
bawomolo: Wow!, of a truth the gathering of the m.us.lims. Isn’t it funny? Bowing down their heads. Proverbs 13:16 , Every prudent man acts out of knowledge, but a fool exposes his folly. |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by TwlitsThrn: 8:24pm On Apr 02, 2008 |
Dude Sun god, what gives you the right to bash on someone elses beliefs. just b/c you dont believe in it does not give you that right. yeas religion and some of the stories can be seen as simple minded nonsense to get dumb people by but that is not always the case. true the story is very unbelievable, i have not read all the chat logs, but there is also no discernible facts that it DIDNT happen. that is one of the great things about religion. religion is great in the fact that many things are left to the believers discretion. there probably is no conclusive evidence about how such a phenomen couldve happened except by word of mouth and through the religions. now to your credentials. do you have any understanding of the catholic, christian, muslim*, or jewish religions in which this story is held as a belief. this is doctrine that has been spread through many generations, and is held as one of the greatest stories of all time. i am not going to make any assumptions to your level of knowledge on this subject but i have explored almost every religion commonly believed by people today, and almost all religions have a reference to the story of Noahs Ark. there's similar stories in the buddhist and hindu religions, and also in the mainstream ones such as stated before. this seems to me to be more of an attack on a widely excepted belief because youve got some bone to pick with religion. I think you have some very good remarks on this subject but without the the stable belief and willingness to listen and adhere to other peoples opinions without blatantly attacking their religions, your remarks are hard to accept but at the same time hard to refute outright. you should not beliger people that choose to believe in any religion. religion is not a delusion, aspects of it can be seen that way, but when "stories" appear widely throughout many cultures and beliefs there must be some level of fact or truth to them. |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by rite2salas(m): 8:32pm On Apr 02, 2008 |
The story of the ark is true Sun God I saw the movie recently, lmao |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by JayFK(m): 8:37pm On Apr 02, 2008 |
TwlitsThrn: Noah's ark is an impossible story. period. Jewish, Christian and Is'lamic religions all have the same origins and are merely plagiarisms or each other. Even the pagan religions of old have had some sort of story involving floods, that doesnt mean its true. Religion is a delusion only its mainstream so you cannot exactly call it that. What do you call something that is a fixed false belief, something who's entire foundation is based on faith? A schizophrenic claims he hears voices, you cannot dispute that but then you believe that he hears voices, what do you call the schizophrenic and yourself? What do you call someone who believes fervently in the historical plausibility of Noah's ark in the face of contradictory evidence? |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by rite2salas(m): 8:43pm On Apr 02, 2008 |
JayFK:I believe its possible to achieve that type of feat, there's been 2 movies of noahs ark recently and they were able to build the ark with the flood, i dont know wat else u wanna hear , loooooooool. its possible period, |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by chiegemba(f): 9:40pm On Apr 04, 2008 |
@ poster, personal opinion. . . . . 1) Thank God that at least u spend the time reading the bible and quoting it although givin your interpretations wrongly makes u hunger for the bible more which is a "Great Step" 2) God's miracles are beyond humans imagination " since you're a human created by him d more u would b lost and interpret God's words in the way u as a human being thinks which also would lead u to seek more of him "Dats a Good Move" 3) The Bible used 2 b in "Scroll(s) . . . "B.C" but now its being binded together 2 become the bible in . . . "A.C" so 4 you to read through a story and try 2 figure out what really happened through a human's imagination and hunger more 4 its meanin doesnt make it "unbelievable biblical story ever told" "quotes" God hasnt made it compulsory for humans to believe in his words or miracles . . . besides i would think you're expressing your emotions i would say 4 not being able to understand his words which is totally understandable as humans to express our emotions which with time God would send his people to help u understand best " your Best Decision Ever" Anyways i'll say more grease to your elbows because your search 4 God would be met @ d time he has appointed for you to meet him . . . i'll urgue u to keep searchin your needs would soon b met.  |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by Witness(m): 2:16am On Apr 05, 2008 |
Does this story make sense? Did this really happen? Did 8 people really build an Ark that is 450 feet long and 75 feet wide? Did an omniscient God write this story, or did primitive cattle herders make it up out of thin air? Let's think it through using common sense and realise that these passages are make belief stories that have been embellished in the consciousness of man for a while but honestly its time to wake up from this slumber, Haba! I don't know how a rational human or christian would be able to honestly explain this biblical gaffe! 1. Yes it makes sense , its the most simply and reasonable explanation for available scientific observations formation of formation of crude oil, coal , the rapid fossilisation of animals to form fossils, the disapperance of the firmament above the earth, the presence of cracks and faults in the earths crust spanning the whole world, the estimated backward extraplolation of the population of the world, the only sensible explanation for the presense of fossilised clamps found in the closed position mountain tops, sudden and catastrophic deposit of fossils of different kind of animals within the same place and at the same layer of soil. The only thing that worries you is that it is true, hence you are worried and are looking for ways to disprove so that you would therefore not be answerable to a God) 2. Yes it really happened, Its was not local, it completely covered the whole surface of the earth, hence why we have evidence of the flood in form of the presence of gigantum amount of water in the oceans (left over water from the flood) and the observable structures on the earth surfaces that could only had been formed as a result of a catastrophic global flood (e.g. grand canyon) ,the petrified trees found in standing positions within soil layers are evidences of the flood, evidence of manufactured metallic objects found in coal are evidence of the prevalent and existing cultures before the flood which basically wiped out everything. 3. Now you are doing what it called leading the witness: a. The bible did not tells us whether Noah himself and his family were the ones who built the Ark or not, neither did the bible tell us whether he hired people to build the Ark or not, (Note that people could have agreed to be paid to build the Ark even though they didn't believe in it) b. The bible also did not tell us the exact time when God told Noah to build the Ark, the only thing we know is the God told him after he had already given birth to his three sons and also that the ark was finished after his three son where old enough to have wives. So we don't really know how long it took Noah to build the Ark, Therefore there is no need for you to assume that his family did not build the Ark , simply because the bible did not tell you that the family built the Ark in the first place. Gen 5:32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Gen 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. Gen 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. Gen 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth. Gen 6:14 Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. Gen 7:6 And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth. Moreover if you care to use the internet to crosscheck whether or not the design of the Ark was ficticious or not relative to the kind of job the Ark was supposed to do, you would find out that the engineering dimensions of the Ark was simply a work of ingenuity for a vessel that was supposed to be that large. 4. No! people living before the flood were not primitive cattle herders or apes , it is your preconceived idea of evolution that makes you think that people living in the time of noah were primitive, that is a real false assumption. The bible clearly shows that they were technologically advanced for that generation, even present day engineers would tell you that the pitch that was used to seal the Ark was simply a work of high mental intelligence. (Use your internet to find out , you will realise that such a pitch was simply quite remarkable even compared to the present day ship sealing techniques. The following bible verse is an example showing that they were technologically advanced. Ask yourself how it was possible for Pyramids of Egypt to have being built (even by generations after Noah) despite that a lot of technological knowledge was lost due to the flood and every one had to start all over again. How did you think people were able to even imagine trying to build a Tower of Babel , if they were so primitive as your theory of evolution wants you to believe. As a Matter of fact its is my opinion that of all men (apart from Jesus Christ) Adam was the most brilliant to ever live (even more brilliant than Einstein yes), He had to practical start his whole life from scratch after having being sent parking from the Garden of Eden and he probably did this with no previous manuals or tutorials on how to get it done in the first place, Adam had the image of God before his fall, and obviously would have had a quite remarkable if not amount of intelligence, compared to we present day men. An example of the remarkable intelligence of Adam can be shown to you via the following verse. Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. Gen 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. Do you realise its takes a botanist,zoologist, microbiologist to even name a single animal (it basically almost takes susbtantial amount of time for person to indentify and name different animals that he/she had not seen before), yet the bible clearly shows that Adam did that within a Day! Remember that Adam was create as a full grown Adult with all the required intelligence needed, hence so please realise that even despite his fall from Glory into Sin, his susequent children certainly could not have primitive as you are making them out to be, aba! In fact ability to extract and work with Iron was already prevalent before the flood: Gen 4:22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in bras[/b]s and [b]iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah. So you see its rather presumptous of you to assume based on your believe in evolution that people were not already advanced enough to have being able to build an Ark then[b], they certainly already were, [/b] Even Jesus Christ shows you a good example of how intelligent a sinless man his, (talkless of a few sinful generations after Adam), Jesus Christ was so brillian that he was practically mesmerizing the renowned scholars of his period despite that he was still a young boy. Luk 2:40 And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him. Luk 2:41 Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover. Luk 2:42 And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast. Luk 2:43 And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it. Luk 2:44 But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day's journey; and they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance. Luk 2:45 And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him. Luk 2:46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions. Luk 2:47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers. |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by Witness(m): 2:18am On Apr 05, 2008 |
Rationals believe that if even christians rely on the bible, they should pick out the moral issues of making mankind a better person instead of gloating over silly things like heaven or hell or god is perfect and ominiscent and all that crap. If they focused more on values without ascribing so many false doctrines to buttress their points, Rationals wouldnt have any problem with it and just leave them alone. First and foremost , it must be understand that the fact that I am a Christian is not based on scientifice evidences but rather its based on faith, nonethless, experience shows that atheism, evolution, humanism , rationalism , agnostism, etc are likewise faith based systems ()that are based on subjective reasoning and thinking and not on observable science. Likewise its also true the God has provided numerous evidences through science via which non-christians and get to be able to see that that which Christians believe by faiths is like checkable to be true by non-christians Well spoken by an atheist who simply does not want God in the picture. 1. You or Rationals are not in a position to determine what Christians should do or not do with the Bible , you lack the understanding to know or to comprehend, simply becuase you are not even in a position to know what should be picked out and what should not be picked. 2. The ability to know what to pick out of the bible is dependent on the person having an absolute and non changing standard by which he can know what is true and what is not. Unfortunately, an atheist or a rationalist by nature simply does not believe in the existence of an absolute moral standard hence , simply cannot be able to do the picking in the first place. 3. You do not believe in the bible so how could you possibly know what is to be pick and what is to be rejected. 4. The Bible has already provided that absolute moral standards (ten commandments) which non-christians having been using for more than a few thousand years now. As such picking and choosing which moral standard you want is not an issue you atheists have already started doing that in the first place. 5.Making manking a better person is not the purpose of being a Christian, the devil himself can do that for you, moreover i think you atheists have already tried doing that yourself so you really don't need us to try and do that for you, 6. The mere existence of the fact that there are moral values indicates that there are standards of right or wrong, sin or no-sin. Yet the contradiction of atheism is that how can they acknowledge the existence of right or wrong without acknowledging the existence of sin or no-sin. This invariably forces atheist to come face to face with the fact that if sins exists then there must be someone outside of sin who was able to determine what is sin and what is not sin in the first place. The person ultimately amounts to God. Hence atheist cannot acknowledge the fact that there is an absolute standard to which right and wrong is measure otherwise it would amount to them accepting the existence of sin and God. 7. Making mankind better morally is not the problem its the symptom of and underlying problem of sin. 8. Making mankind morally better is not the purpose of Christianity , the purpose is for the redemption of man so that he can be restored to the state of sinlessness, a state in which he always automatically chooses to do that which is right and sinless. Perfect and good Moral values are only the product of living a Christian life they are the purpose. 9. It is not the job of atheists to determine what the purpose of Christianity is, you have absolutely no standard and comprehension by which you can even start to have an inkling. 10. How does atheism know whether something is a false doctrine or is not a false doctrine, by what standard is atheism able to determine the existence of false doctrine, without having to assume that they know what the right and correct doctrine is in the first place. 11. Understanding of scriptures is not possible for an atheist , simply because scriptures are not even supposed to exist to an atheist in the first place, so how can an atheist now get to justify that his interpretation of the same scriptures is correct, since he professses the non-existence of God in the first place. 12. Atheism is based on the assumption that there is no God, yet there is no prove that there is no God. As such atheism is a believe system of those who simply choose not to beleieve that God exists and not because they know that God does not exists. In fact the tools used by atheism to try to prove the non-existence of God , simply cannot do that for the simple reason that those tools have likewise failed in even answering the simple questions of: a. Where do we come from. b. How did life start. c. What is the purpose of life. d. Is there an end to life and why. In consequence an atheist startes with an assumption and then hopes that he can provide a proof which unfortunately has not been forthcoming and would never be forthcoming simply because the bible is true and observable science shows it to be true. 13. In consequence an atheist is left with know other option of micro-managing the issue by trying to pick apart the bible and try to see which areas of it is not true , as an evidence that the bible cannot be true, yet still despite the effort the atheist still cannot prove his hypothesis that God does not exist. |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by SunGod1: 4:13am On Apr 05, 2008 |
@witness Actually, i am feeling very sleepy now but i can promise you i have a very comprehensive response to your vapid answers. Let me give you a teaser of what to expect later on: . Yes it makes sense , its the most simply and reasonable explanation for available scientific observations formation of formation of crude oil, coal , the rapid fossilisation of animals to form fossils, the disapperance of the firmament above the earth, the presence of cracks and faults in the earths crust spanning the whole world, the estimated backward extraplolation of the population of the world, the only sensible explanation for the presense of fossilised clamps found in the closed position mountain tops, sudden and catastrophic deposit of fossils of different kind of animals within the same place and at the same layer of soil. HMMM, So much big English so little sense. Please make more research how the penguins left the north pole to come to Noah'a ark or the Kangaroos or Koalas from australia or many other creatures that are basically habitants of a particular region 2. How did he feed them 3. How did he take care of their waste products for 40 days and 40 nights 4. How did he treat their diseases ( You cannot pack a mamothful of animals together as one and since Noah was neither termed a biologist or doctor or vet, he couldnt have coped (What am i even saying, I dont need to even give you a defense to a ludicrious story!) 5. Talking of the population of the world, do you mean that it isnt adam and eve that are the parents of the world? B'cos according to the bible, god destroyed all off them and it remained only 8 people and these 8 people are the heirs to the billions of people on the planet? (Does that make sense) Wiping a whole generation away and starting all over? Where did they walk to, how did they rebuild the earth?, Psssssf, 6. Even your silly arguendo to the allusion to " sudden and catastrophic deposit of fossils of different kind of animals within the same place and at the same layer of soil" is just hear say to justify a windy post. Where has been historically discovered that over a thousand animals were found dead and their fossils found together to justify that they were from the ark of noah? 7. How did these animals walk back to their various destinations without eating each other? At least you admited that the world was wiped clean of everything and canivores had to survive by eating other fleshy animals. And since it was only 2 a piece, how did the animals all survive without an attack from the vicious ones without food? Or did the lions begin to eat oranges and the tigers carrots all day till the deer family had to repoduce 18 times before they could satisfy their bellies? As i said. Allusions and hallucinations are meant for the deluded who would believe every pscho babble told to them. As promised, this is just a teaser for you to work on. The main dish is coming later on in the day! |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by Witness(m): 5:02am On Apr 05, 2008 |
Further prove about a global flood: Job 12:15 Behold, he withholdeth the waters, and they dry up: also he sendeth them out, and they overturn the earth. Or did the lions begin to eat oranges and the tigers carrots all day till the deer family had to repoduce 18 times before they could satisfy their bellies? There is no need to use profane words or through personal insults , try and focus on the issue and not on the messenger! HMMM, So much big English so little sense. 1. You are assuming that the shape of the dry land that we have today is the same that has always existed, 2. I don't know how the Koala, Kangaroo etc got to where they were, however what i do know is that: a. The animals all left the Ark and were commanded by God to be fruitful and multiply (how this occured is not what i know since i was not there and the bible did not mention how it occured) Gen 8:17 Bring forth with thee every living thing that is with thee, of all flesh, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth; that they may breed abundantly in the earth, and be fruitful, and multiply upon the earth. Gen 8:19 Every beast, every creeping thing, and every fowl, and whatsoever creepeth upon the earth, after their kinds, went forth out of the ark. 2. How did he feed them Gen 6:21 And take thou unto thee of [b]all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them. [/b]
Actually they all spent more than 40 days and 40 nights in the Ark , they spent close to a whole year in the Ark, However I do not know how their waste products were taking care of , the bible did not tell me anything about waste product and i am not at liberty to be making guesses,
How don't know the bible did not tell me, and I am not guessing how 5. Talking of the population of the world, do you mean that it isnt adam and eve that are the parents of the world? B'because according to the bible, god destroyed all off them and it remained only 8 people and these 8 people are the heirs to the billions of people on the planet? Yes it does make sense, population projections fit the time frame of the flood , othewise far more people who have been on earth than we have now, |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by Witness(m): 5:04am On Apr 05, 2008 |
Psa 29:10 The LORD sitteth upon the flood; yea, the LORD sitteth King for ever. |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by olabowale(m): 4:56pm On Apr 05, 2008 |
@Witness: There is no need to use profane words or through personal insults , try and focus on the issue and not on the messenger!I advice you to take your own advise to people. Aburo, do good to others if you are going to demand others to do like wise. lol. |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by Nobody: 5:55pm On Apr 05, 2008 |
SunGod: Since atheists hold that God does not exist, why do they bother when others don't seem to keep Jesus' commandment to "Love your neighbour as your self"! If God, does not exist, the commandments of Jesus are meaningless and should not be kept by anybody. |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by rite2salas(m): 11:10pm On Apr 07, 2008 |
Did Noah take dinosaurs on the Ark? |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by bawomolo(m): 12:46am On Apr 08, 2008 |
Since atheists hold that God does not exist, why do they bother when others don't seem to keep Jesus' commandment to "Love your neighbour as your self"! Huh you can be concerned about the welfare of ur neighbor without being religious |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by Nobody: 7:41am On Apr 08, 2008 |
bawomolo: And whose business is it if I am religious AND concerned about the welfare of my neighbor? |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by Gtunery: 7:23pm On Apr 09, 2008 |
Oh boy ye!!! I'm no scholar of the bible but I know this, the Bible especially the old testament is part of the ancient book of the jewish religion. The Jews happen to be culture, a certain way of life for somepeople you have their beliefs deeply rooted in the torah. Now let me try and clearify somethings here, In every cultue there is a religion. Look at history of the world every society, has got a culture and religion happens to be an aspect of that culuter, what does that tell you it tells you that there is something sacred about the way of life of man, and that's were God comes in, every known culture has got religion therefor every known culture believes that there's a supernatural aspect in man's life that affects his existence, So that means there is God, God exists. About Noah, the book was wrtten by Moses, He was inspired to write the book, it is part jewish mythodolgy and it's sacred to them. Every religion has it's mythodology like the greeks and mount olympus n stuffs like that, those things appear to be sacred to them. The writing of noah carrys alot of significance, I tell you that moses was inspired by God to write it, Just as he was inspired by God to write about the creation of the world. |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by Gtunery: 7:31pm On Apr 09, 2008 |
Bring it on I'm ready to play ball |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by dTouch: 10:02am On Apr 11, 2008 |
sungod? Let's think it through using common sense, ?  sungod! sungod!! sungod!!! I've read a few postings from you, bawomolo, etc, etc and I'm always filled with compassion for you all. My earnest prayer to God Almighty, the father of our Lord and Saviour JESUS CHRIST (oh! there's something about that name that is so comforting) is that one day the heart of "stone" may become the heart of "flesh". There's something futile about teaching a month old baby algebra. Just because the subject is beyond the baby doesn't negate its values. There is some wisdom in being careful when we don't understand. |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by KAG: 10:41am On Apr 11, 2008 |
Witness: That's neither proof nor evidence. In fact, that verse is arguably not concurring with the literalist's view of a global flood, but about localised floods and the psalmist's view of YHWH's role. Yes it does make sense, population projections fit the time frame of the flood , othewise far more people who have been on earth than we have now, Not really, no. |
| Re: The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told by Piacere: 8:12am On May 02, 2008 |
Witness, you forgot to mention that dinosaurs were also on the ark. Well that's what a lot of christian fundies tell me anyway! Sometimes I ask myself if you people are just having a laugh, that it's all a big joke, but sadly it is clear that you really do believe such nonsense. Someone once said that when christian fundies watch "The Flintstones", they think it's a documentary. Like so many christian nutjobs, Witness thinks everything in the bible is true. That book of fairy tales contains so many contradictions and inconsistencies that anyone who takes it seriously is something that Witness likes to call everyone, a fool. No fool like an old fool, eh Witness. One thing the bible does show quite clearly though, is that this god you believe in is an egotistical mass murderer. No doubt christians will disagree with that,but what do you call someone who deliberately drowns every living creature in the world bar drunken old Noah and his dysfunctional family? Makes the idea that god is love rather redundant don't you think? |
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