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Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by TrueNaijaBwoy: 9:07am On Apr 26, 2013 |
mudistr: @OP. There is something about you that is not right. You opened a post, half complaining about your wife and generalizing it to women. I appreciate why u think this... but i m cautious about what i say on this post as the issues are very very specific... and i dont want to drag the parties involved into it.. try to be openminded and consider this... if an apology is important to me for what she has done wrong (even if it my perception), why why why? cant she offer it for the sake of peace! Lets use a hypothetical example, she physically assaults due to an argument your having and goes one step down the road to get the police on you, naturally twisting the tale that you assaulted her....... in the end you both go home, you apologise for saying the things you said that led to her assaulting you... then its mum on her side!! no remorse, no guilt trip no apology! Let me guess, you'll tell me, i should swallow my pride and crawl back into my hole and await another decking! 1 Like |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by TrueNaijaBwoy: 9:15am On Apr 26, 2013 |
pweetymama: @ OP,I believe ur wife has nt always been like dis.d problem is ur wife has been listening to bad advice.there r so many pple out there looking for marriages to destroy whilst their home is in peace.I once told my hubby I dnt wnt to go to a family friend's house again cos of d things d woman always tell me to do,but some women will foolishly heed d advice nd destroy their homes.I pray she realise herself in good time.Goodluck. She was never like this! She was lovely, sweet and understanding!! she just changed!! |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by LADIbaba(m): 9:18am On Apr 26, 2013 |
True NaijaBwoy: Sorry bro, but didn't you date her and see all these while courting? Or is this something she just started I know someone that had quite a similar issues to this.... All he did was to take a stand. Move her out of his house and tried building himself. Trust me, it worked... she came back begging to return. (Thinking of it, I hope the house isn't hers? or her folks) |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by Nobody: 9:20am On Apr 26, 2013 |
True NaijaBwoy: Forgive me if my question has been handled aready but I'm new on did thread and really don't want to go tru 5 looong pages I completely agree that a woman should be matured enough to say 'sorry' if that's what it'll take to keep her marriage, but it looks like you are trying to blackmail her into saying 'sorry'. I bet you didn't know she'll be willing to call your bluff You say you'll reconsider if she says she's sorry right? Now I dont know what she did but will saying 'sorry' solve the problem? what if she says it without meaning it, or gets pressured into saying it just for you to stay, but at the end of the day, she's not different from whatever made you want to divorce her in the first place? I'll advice you to really really consider why you want to let go of your marriage. Not to encourage your wife's stubbornness but is it really worth it . . . walking out of your family because of a childish wife |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by TrueNaijaBwoy: 9:20am On Apr 26, 2013 |
weaseloo: Divorce is many times used as a tool to hurt the other person or to pay them back for their wrongs. However it is a very magnified approach of revenge which I feel often times is not necessary. Marriage is about give and take. You cannot have it all. You have to be willing to sacrifice. I wonder what your wife has done that you can't forgive her. You sound like you are so much in control but believe me, the end product is not juicy, for you, your wife and your 2 children. My flaw no 3... Ive been told i try to control the uncontrollable! but quite frankly i have to be (mentally and physically) otherwise i would have lost the plot ages ago!! I have deliberetaed so much over the end product, its not nice... which is why i may bend but has she? |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by Nobody: 9:25am On Apr 26, 2013 |
This is why some people should not get married or not rush into marriage. You should take your time to date and see if you will be compatible. Will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume she is at fault. So you did not notice this kind of behavior throughout the 9yrs of dating her. When you fought and she was in the wrong did she not apologise? If she was like that from the beginning and you ignored it because you were "inlove" am sorry to say this but its your fault. If this is a recent thing, why not find out what has changed. Or perhaps go for couples couselling. Maybe something you did or something that is making her behave that way. You should try all means first before you call it quits cos you may find out that the devil you know is better than the angel you do not know. What if you meet another lady like ur wife or worse. |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by TrueNaijaBwoy: 9:26am On Apr 26, 2013 |
ibnew: @OP... First of all, you did not give out your story straight. You made people guessing through different angles. You might not get the right feedback or responds. Secondly, you said you did not come for advice but that you had already made up your mind. My advice/comment will be hold on for a while. Your the only person so far who will understand the toxic nature of what i have been going through... your saving grace is you still have communication... in-depth talking, quite frankly is not for everyone,,,, You are very very lucky! you should tell her this! |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by Omogbhollahorn(m): 9:28am On Apr 26, 2013 |
i understand how u feel bro,but if u a christain plz dnt divorce or else death do u part....ok my opinion y dnt u take a long break 4rm hme 4 a while and try one or two tricks just to knw if she is still interested in d marriage...and try to let her family knw there stand in ur marriage.thanks what i jus learnt nw: marriage is sumfin i should nt go in 4 coz with diz marriage diz marriage dat is scaring d hell out of my singleness....i dnt fink i can face all d pain and cage. |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by TrueNaijaBwoy: 9:32am On Apr 26, 2013 |
Ujujoan: Yes it is! The damage is way to deep! |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by Nobody: 9:34am On Apr 26, 2013 |
There is two parts to every story. No matter how much we want to blame a party or complain about something they did. You have also played your part and contributed to this, so as soon as you admit this and realise ur part then thats a start. I dnt blv someone can wake up one day and just be a certain way for nothing. It seems like ur wife is fed up, and when a woman is fed up blv me she wont bother or care what you do. Was there any fidelity or anything that happened btwn you two that could have caused this thing. |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by divex(f): 9:41am On Apr 26, 2013 |
don't wanna comment on this post else i lose my mind. smh |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by Omogbhollahorn(m): 9:45am On Apr 26, 2013 |
divex: don't wanna comment on this post else i lose my mind. smhand what did u do nw , u spoke to d post rite....s.m.h dumb people 1 Like |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by TrueNaijaBwoy: 9:52am On Apr 26, 2013 |
Omogbhollahorn: i understand how u feel bro,but if u a christain plz dnt divorce or else death do u part....ok marriage is abeautiful thing with the right person.... my and others experience should be seen as a guide on how to tackle these issues which are always prevalent in a marriage My flaw with this one is i wanted to approach it alone without interference or outside opinions or forums such as these..... we live and learn ....... dont be scared!! |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by Kgdavid(m): 10:03am On Apr 26, 2013 |
every day i lose hope for marriage when i read posts like this but then again O.P i ask is God involved in your marriage? i have never been married so i cant preach to you but my bible says: "unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain that build it" . i dont know what your religious beliefs are but it is clear that you have labored on your own to save your marriage and it has not worked. God instituted marriage and it is not His will for any to divorce therefore trust in God right now, take your problems to Him with sincerity. "the heart of the king is in the hands of the Lord". God can touch your wife's heart. "remove the log in your own eye so you may see clearly to remove the speck in your brothers eye". you may have faults that are hidden even to you. let God reveal these and deal with them. "there is a way that seemeth right unto a man but the end of it is destruction". what you are about to do may not be the best even though it may seem that way. i beg you to seek your solution in God. in conclusion i guess marriage really is a struggle in which case take courage soldier! "Aluta continua, victoria e certa" 4 Likes |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by Nobody: 10:07am On Apr 26, 2013 |
Kgdavid: every day i lose hope for marriage when i read posts like this but then again O.P i ask is God involved in your marriage? i have never been married so i cant preach to you but my bible says:There is hope after all. @ op this is the best advice 1 Like |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by devour129: 10:07am On Apr 26, 2013 |
And the opposite is my case ! My hubby never says sorry NEVER but does it mean I should divorce him ?NO cos he is not perfect and he is very good at other things. I just had to learn not to expect sorry from him and also stop saying sorry myself. My hubby has taught me a lot so av learnt how to avoid saying sorry myself. And for people saying family should be kept away from marriage,tell me how that is working for you cause I really want to know. Cause it's feels sad and lonely when I can't get my family or in-laws to intervene in some issues in my house.the important thing is to be smart and strong to know which issues to share and what advice to take. 1 Like |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by devour129: 10:14am On Apr 26, 2013 |
Kgdavid: every day i lose hope for marriage when i read posts like this but then again O.P i ask is God involved in your marriage? i have never been married so i cant preach to you but my bible says:you are so right ! It's not easy but you having to work work work.some people will say why stay in an unhappy marriage but that advice is good only if you where held at gun point to marry a man or a woman.both men and women have relationships before marriage whether or not sex is involved.in your case was she the only girl you have been with ? Am sure your answer is no.then why didn't you marry any of your past girlfriends ? That's because you saw something that made you feel with your wife you are complete,so try remember those things and search yourself and see maybe you changed her.work on your marriage and give your wife and children a wonderful home. It's only a fool and a suffer head is given sweet and she or he spits it out.hold on !!!! 1 Like |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by devour129: 10:16am On Apr 26, 2013 |
Subomi-luv:that's the way I feel too 1 Like |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by TrueNaijaBwoy: 10:17am On Apr 26, 2013 |
devour129: And the opposite is my case ! My hubby never says sorry NEVER but does it mean I should divorce him ?NO cos he is not perfect and he is very good at other things. I just had to learn not to expect sorry from him and also stop saying sorry myself. My hubby has taught me a lot so av learnt how to avoid saying sorry myself. And for people saying family should be kept away from marriage,tell me how that is working for you cause I really want to know. Cause it's feels sad and lonely when I can't get my family or in-laws to intervene in some issues in my house.the important thing is to be smart and strong to know which issues to share and what advice to take. At least you and your hubby understand yourselves.. family involvement can be bitter or sweet, it depends on the relationship you and your hubby have with them... mines been very bitter... my family and hers not speaking (years), its been very lonely for me as i lterraily have to tip toe out of the house to speak to my family to avoid any conflicts within my home... her family are more involved in ours to the point it stomach churning.... they are nice people, they just dont understand that she is not mature enough to handle the divide.... in reality im stuck deep in the middle and depressed! its been very hard to communicate this to her as she just doesnt understand what its doing to me! Regardless, family involvement is only nice is both families agree to butt out of your problems and support both you and your hubbies descisions without chastising you behind the others back and underminng your individual releveance! I v been through this and currently going through it... this is my experience and its not a pleasant state! |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by benvivi: 10:30am On Apr 26, 2013 |
@op , from your responses is so obvious ur mind is made up on this divorce issue so no matter d advice people give, you will never heed to it. be reminded that patience works out humility . your test and ability to overcome all this marital mountains shows how great a leader you are. your story is not straight both of you are just doing what you like without considering the kids. who is the head? you, who is the captain of this warship? you, my dear is not easy but you have to take charge . if you say and conclude in your heart that this marriage must work i bet it will work out but if u are filled with the negative feelings which is shown then is over. why give up on her when God never gave up on you, think about the times u did smtin wrong to her and she forgave u, the first time u set ur eyes on her the force that pushed to say hello to her, think those things that made u believe you can spend the rest of your life with this woman. i married one of the most difficult woman to ever please , at times i felt like staying away and she would just stay dat way without bothering herself where i was. i decided i was gonna quit but my first son made me realize i have work to do in this marriage, my wife is those overly ambitious ladies, neat to a fault, an extrovert, defines almost everything even when you look at her, picks quarrel at slightest provocation, classy ya this was our problem i don't believe in class so she sees me as old fashioned my opinion makes no sense at home that was our problem. we fought , quarreled and the kids watched. she earns well and i do earn well too i called my pastor to tell him am done with this marriage and he said he wants to hear from her and she said the same thing. i started working towards judicial separation and i stormed a christian literature that is title the POWER OF A PRAYING HUSBAND after going through it i understood that even if she doesn't want the marriage i will make it work for my kids to learn that when the grow up they marry to stay with their spouse forever and problems show in their marriage the gonna allow God settle it. then i started praying and working on it my friends didn't understand it they saw it as stupidity , i ran away from the slightest argument , i blanked my heart from her negative traits my dear to cut the long story short a night came as i was sleeping i felt someone sobbing in my room to greatest surprise my Almighty wife was down on her knees in-front of my bed seeking for my forgiveness. my dear brother prayer changes situations try it 4 Likes |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by Omogbhollahorn(m): 10:31am On Apr 26, 2013 |
True NaijaBwoy:Thanks bro i feel relieved. |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by clockers: 10:32am On Apr 26, 2013 |
I don't think it has anything to do with "her sorry" i think you are no longer in love with her period .Hence not intrested in her or the relationship .The real reason(s) for not wanting her anymore could be driving you to guilt so you keep using the she is not apologizing excuse to avoid being blunt with the truth .We all know love is stronger than pride i could not leave a spouce because of not "apologizing " come on .people work through stuff like that . The way you told your story was short coming what are you trying to hide that we havent heard of before .Sounds like you are trying to find peace with yourself but the truth is you have all the answers to these Q?s. 1 Like |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by TrueNaijaBwoy: 10:46am On Apr 26, 2013 |
clockers: I don't think it has anything to do with "her sorry" i think you are no longer in love with her period .Hence not intrested in her or the relationship .The real reason(s) for not wanting her anymore could be driving you to guilt so you keep using the she is not apologizing excuse to avoid being blunt with the truth .We all know love is stronger than pride i could not leave a spouce because of not "apologizing " come on .people work through stuff like that . The way you told your story was short coming what are you trying to hide that we havent heard of before .Sounds like you are trying to find peace with yourself but the truth is you have all the answers to these Q?s. the prevailing issue is whats important, im not addressing mine or her past flaws.... A man loves his dignity at home... abi? i love the lady but i guess not enough to land me at Igbobi!! Its the harsh reality! Everyone keeps avoiding this question, If this apology means a lot to me and us and the family why is it so hard for her to say it (unless she is just as fed up or feels the marriage is not important to save??) I have found peace, i have had months to reflect and adjust to this reality! this is now about understanding the mindset of the opposite sex and people in general and how they typically would address such a dilemma... Its the trivial things that bear the most weight! |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by Omogbhollahorn(m): 10:59am On Apr 26, 2013 |
benvivi: @op , from your responses is so obvious ur mind is made up on this divorce issue so no matter d advice people give, you will never heed to it. be reminded that patience works out humility . your test and ability to overcome all this marital mountains shows how great a leader you are. your story is not straight both of you are just doing what you like without considering the kids. who is the head? you, who is the captain of this warship? you, my dear is not easy but you have to take charge . if you say and conclude in your heart that this marriage must work i bet it will work out but if u are filled with the negative feelings which is shown then is over. why give up on her when God never gave up on you, think about the times u did smtin wrong to her and she forgave u, the first time u set ur eyes on her the force that pushed to say hello to her, think those things that made u believe you can spend the rest of your life with this woman. i married one of the most difficult woman to ever please , at times i felt like staying away and she would just stay dat way without bothering herself where i was. i decided i was gonna quit but my first son made me realize i have work to do in this marriage, my wife is those overly ambitious ladies, neat to a fault, an extrovert, defines almost everything even when you look at her, picks quarrel at slightest provocation, classy ya this was our problem i don't believe in class so she sees me as old fashioned my opinion makes no sense at home that was our problem. we fought , quarreled and the kids watched. she earns well and i do earn well too i called my pastor to tell him am done with this marriage and he said he wants to hear from her and she said the same thing. i started working towards judicial separation and i stormed a christian literature that is title the POWER OF A PRAYING HUSBAND after going through it i understood that even if she doesn't want the marriage i will make it work for my kids to learn that when the grow up they marry to stay with their spouse forever and problems show in their marriage the gonna allow God settle it. then i started praying and working on it my friends didn't understand it they saw it as stupidity , i ran away from the slightest argument , i blanked my heart from her negative traits my dear to cut the long story short a night came as i was sleeping i felt someone sobbing in my room to greatest surprise my Almighty wife was down on her knees in-front of my bed seeking for my forgiveness. my dear brother prayer changes situations try itwow i love ur advise it really encouraging....well 4 me being a product of broken home at a tender age, i would go with ur advice i dnt want my kids to go through d poo i went through.#iswear 1 Like |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by modele2: 11:03am On Apr 26, 2013 |
Just five years...i think you are being drastic. In every relationship at least one person must stoop to conquer. If both people are well oriented and can say sorry the better..If your divroce happens years down the line you are going to see how silly both of you have been and regret it. I have been married almost 5 years and in all that period my husband had never appologised for anything, even when it is sooooo obvious that he is at fault. I have learnt to live with it, say sorry when i need to and assume there is an anti-sorry demon in him and my focus is on not letting the demon make me unhappy. That ideology helps me cope with this fault of his. On the third pary hand, i believe that a problem shared is a problem solved, it just depends on who you are sharing it with. I have things i share within my marriage and things i dont share, when i share i feel better. So for my sanity i share, but i am smart enough to know good and productive advice and advice from an envious heart. I also share with people that are real christians in tot word and deed.That helps as well. I understand how you feel, but cant really judge issues since the other part of the story is not told. I also know that my family can never back me if i have done something wrong to my husband, every one would be after peace, so i think you sef don match line somewhere. Dont let your ego and the demon of pride get the better of you. Its well 1 Like |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by Tokotaya: 11:03am On Apr 26, 2013 |
OP, it helps to give all the information at once, though succinctly. It does not have to compromise the identity of those involved, but divulge basic information to help people form an opinion. Right now, it does seem to me that you are making things up as we move along. It doesn't come across as genuine, real-life case. I have a feeling I will be offering advice on hypothesis and not to somebody who is in distress and in need of it. A waste of time. At best, I'll say, may God guide you. |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by smartg(m): 11:13am On Apr 26, 2013 |
carefreewannabe:exactly |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by Tintinix: 11:15am On Apr 26, 2013 |
I don't know if at this point (Page 5) you have devulge the issues, I stopped at page 2. My conclusion is that you both have truly stopped loving each other.. Because even after 3 days of malice keeping or just cordial relationship u should be anxious to retrn back to each others arms, talkless of talking about divorce and going ahead with it because of not saying I am sorry or family interference. To your question; saying sorry is quite very easy to some, especially if they don't mean it or plan to learn from the issues that they said sorry for in the first place. Your wife may not be saying sorry to you because she falls within the group of people who say sorry and actually mean it. And probably this time since her saying sorry is predicated on the threat of a divorce feels strongly to allow u to go through your threat! Unfortunately u are not big enough to call her for a discussion, she is actually waiting for you to do that and would apologize so profusely after she has washed you down for the divorce threat! 1 Like |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by Coldfeet(f): 11:16am On Apr 26, 2013 |
Jastombutex11:A resounding amen I say! 1 Like |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by Beync(f): 11:18am On Apr 26, 2013 |
Marriage whahala nawa. BTW, there are traits one need to look out for and against before getting into it. i cant stand a haughty or pride person, cheat, drunker ed. it's a turn off for me cos i know the damage it can cause to relationship. lesson; Before getting into marriage,even if ur partner pretends, try as much as possible to test him/her to really find out whether she/he possesses those traits you know u cant stand and which can damage ur home. it's sad that people still don't know the power of 'am sorry' in every relationship. 3rd party involvement op i think u married a not so mature person who doesn't know her left and right otherwise she wouldn't have involved her family into her married life. it's a choice u made in the first place anyway, u should have seen it and spelt it clearly what u people want then she would have realized what she was going into. Just try ur best to see if everything can still work out. btw, does ur wife know God? How is ur spiritual life like? becos in his words u can find solution to any marital problem u have. |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by xxttyy: 11:27am On Apr 26, 2013 |
@Op, my take on this: even if/when u decide to dish out ur story, it will still be a one-sided story, d other side (ur wife's) remains amiss and that probably cld constitute d "missing link" to d solution u seek (ie if u genuinely seek one). Earnestly, I love Nairalanders- both d constructive & destructive critics cos @d end all d yabbingz...there's always a good part to be assimilated and I believe so much has been said/suggested to u already but pls always remember this: "it's better to loose ur pride for someone u love than to loose d person u love to ur pride"..I wish u luck.. 1 Like |
Re: Divorce - Why Cant Women Say "I M Sorry"? by TrueNaijaBwoy: 11:28am On Apr 26, 2013 |
Tokotaya: OP, it helps to give all the information at once, though succinctly. It does not have to compromise the identity of those involved, but divulge basic information to help people form an opinion. Right now, it does seem to me that you are making things up as we move along. It doesn't come across as genuine, real-life case. I have a feeling I will be offering advice on hypothesis and not to somebody who is in distress and in need of it. A waste of time. At best, I'll say, may God guide you. You would be be on the right track if you considered my hypothesis as my subtle revelation and reality! If i had to make things up,,,, I would have had my own novel or a movie script on the least! Trust me! this is my reality!! |
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