From_Guiriga:

Ah ha ha...Blue is an easier contrast for me to read on the background color. I tired Red and other colors but Blue looked better.
I understand how strongly you feel on this issue man. Trust me. But keep an open mind man, some rough street cats have also turned their life round towards good because of Christianity.

Good reasoning still, give thanks!

Logicboy03:


Foolish statement of the year

Ihedinobi:

Alright then, how does being a catholic make anyone a Christian?

2buff:

Don't assume everyone on your list there made it to heaven.
E.g, I know Solomon started well....not sure how he ended...

Logicboy03:


Catholicism is christianity. If you are a catholic, you are a christian. It like saying someone is a Nigerian and therefore must be African.

Dumbf4ck.

Ihedinobi:

Well, if Catholicism is Christianity and Christianity means having the Spirit of Christ, you weren't ever a Catholic either.

Logicboy03:


How do yoou know a catholic?

-goes to mass
-baptized and confirmed in a catholic church
-believes in god and says the credo (the creed)



I did all three....therefore, you are a dumbf4ck

Ihedinobi:

Well, if that is what a catholic is, then a catholic is not necessarily a Christian, since a Christian is a human bring who has the Spirit of Christ. I am quite sure though that catholics can be Christians and Christians catholics, but the two are not the same per your definition.

Therefore, your doing all three did not make you a Christian.

Ihedinobi:

Well, if that is what a catholic is, then a catholic is not necessarily a Christian, since a Christian is a human bring who has the Spirit of Christ. I am quite sure though that catholics can be Christians and Christians catholics, but the two are not the same per your definition.

Therefore, your doing all three did not make you a Christian.

JeSoul: If I may interject briefy...intriguing replies - especially from Obadaiah.

@Crazyman,
If the physical life of a christian is no different from a non-christian (they endure the same troubles & enjoy the same joys) then what is the point of God? this is a fantastic question and even the bible confirms this saying "He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous." I think Obadaiahs answer is so short, sweet and perfect that it needs to be re-quoted:

A Christian in the true sense of the word is someone who is DEAD TO THIS WORLD.

So when Ihedinobi posted scripture on christians facing persecution & trials he was 100% right.
And when Crazyman countered with scripture on asking & receiving from God, he was also 100% right.

^why? because a christian who is dead to this world will only ask for things that are "not of this world". His prayers are not occupied by requests for carnal, vain, worldy things - but rather his mind is divinely pre-occupied with things of the spirit. And when he asks for these things - he receives them from God who gives freely to all who call on Him in spirit & truth.

If you are a christian - and dead to this world - you will not be swayed by the troubles that come with this world - because "The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever".
and
For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal .

A carnal mind looks around the world and wonders how he can better his life circumstances - and he chases after it. A spiritual mind looks around the world and wonders how much longer? because he knows he does not belong here, and he chases after God. Christians should not despise nor occupy themselves with the vain, fleeting affairs of this world. We are here for a short time and as such should make the most of every opportunity while keeping the big picture in perspective - life is a breath compared to eternity.

Godbless!

JeSoul: If I may interject briefy...intriguing replies - especially from Obadaiah.

A carnal mind looks around the world and wonders how he can better his life circumstances - and he chases after it. A spiritual mind looks around the world and wonders how much longer? because he knows he does not belong here, and he chases after God. Christians should not despise nor occupy themselves with the vain, fleeting affairs of this world. We are here for a short time and as such should make the most of every opportunity while keeping the big picture in perspective - life is a breath compared to eternity.

Godbless!

mazaje:

This is really pathetic view of life and is actually one of the reasons religious societies never make any meaningful development. . .Why develop or contribute anything to the world, when you believe that the world will end during your life time or because you believe it does not matter at all and is of no importance. . .People prefer to live their lives thinking it doesn't matter while believing a mythical after life that no one has ever or can ever show exist is of more importance. . .Such view of life makes life meaningless and it is truly pathetic. . I actually prefer the prosperity gospel advocates that will tell you that this life is very important and as such you have to enjoy every bit of it and prosper in all you do because prosperity is also part of godliness. . .This "we are just passing by and shouldn't care about this world , because we are not a part of it" brand of christianity is pathetic. . .It leads to nothing but misery. . .

Logicboy03:


Foolish statement of the year

Boomark:

He told you a plain truth. "Being a catholic does not MEAN you are a Christian."

the same apples to people in other churches.

Boomark:

He told you a plain truth. "Being a catholic does not MEAN you are a Christian."

the same apples to people in other churches.

Logicboy03:





This is what happens when you quote something out of context. The whole verse is talking about living in the spirit vs living in the flesh. The spirit simply means righteousness in one sense

"But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life[d] because of righteousness"

But then again, that whole chapter 8 of Romans is very ambiguous because it talks of the spirit of God and then the spirit of Jesus and then again,the spirit testifying for you
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Still, it only shows that you are a pharisee and a scripture twister because no one identifies a christian with that verse.....CAN YOU FREAKING SEE A SPIRIT? HOW DO YOU KNOW IF SOMEONE THAT HAS THE SPIRIT OF JESUS?

Even by your own definition of christianity, you cant identify a christian


You are a pharisee....keep lying and twisting the sciptures......liar

Ihedinobi:

"Ok, now I'm feeling the 'stupidness'" as King Julian in one of the episodes of Penguins of Madagascar said.

Really? An atheist is teaching me the Bible? Even lb? Na wa o. Does the uninitiated presume to teach an acolyte? In what world?

Piece of advice: go read my posts again. Your foolishness is showing.

ijawkid:

Prosperity backed up with contentment my bro...as usual what ever the scriptures say is thrash to you,.......if you ever believed in eternal life you would support Jesus' words.......Jesus' words help christians to be balanced with what ever the world has to offer...........

What you fail to realize is that the prosperity gospel drives one to materialism and greed .........

The prosperity gospel is what is actually killing nigeria,rather than make it develop...

CrazyMan:
Ok...this should do...thanks.

Reyginus: Logicboy receives an uppercut.

mazaje:

Firstly, when the stories about Jesus were written the people were under Roman occupation. . .Life was misrable to them and they were expecting a messiah to come and rescue them from the hands of the Romans, hence the view that life didn't matter and the hope for a better life after this one when they die. . .Some of the gospels that didn't make it or were not selected as part of the biblical cannon paints a better picture. . .Masterialism is actually what is driving this world, it leads to competition which leads to a better economy and a better standard of living. . . .

The claim that this life is of no value and just something not to bother with but a passage to an after life that remains a myth is pathetic and morally reprehensible. . .

ijawkid:

Wrong!!....materialism is what has made the world as debasing as it is.........

Life mattered both in the past and now that is why Jesus' words transcends generations.........

Even person§ who care less about God can sinÇerely tell you the dÉ-merits of materialism...I just don't know why you've chosen to see no wrong with it just because the teachings of Jesus kicks Àgainst it.......

In Nigeria and outside nigeria mÀterialism would always be a bane....it drags any Çount®y baÇk ward and deprives the less priviledged of any opportunity for survival....that iÑsatiable desire for wealth is what has led to our(nigeria) having thieves as politicians,militant§,Çharlatans in churches,yahoo yahoo boys etc...........

I hope you do know why the economies of various countries today are crashing..No??........greed and the quest to get richer !!!!....!!!!!!.

Jesus' words would always stand the test of time..........

Logicboy03:


this guy is quite foolish.

the romans and the jews of Jesus's time didnt see their empires crash?

man has always been materialistic. you, ijawkid, do not need the internet...12 years ago, the internet was nothing in naija. stop being materialistic and throw away your computer

ijawkid:

And you are more fooli§h for not seeing the points of Jesus.....

Balance is all we need if not we will always find ourselves in deep sh++t........engaging in different crimes just to make sure we make it.......

Why can't you see the good in Jesus' words??.....

Nonsense!!!....

Logicboy03:

Jesus?

A Jewish guy that got crucified for the loudmouth he was claiming to be the messiah....a messiah that couldnt save himself.

Next time, when you are a carpenter son, you dont claim to be a messiah.....Jesus should have learnt to take his own advice on humility.

ijawkid:

Wrong!!....materialism is what has made the world as debasing as it is.........

Life mattered both in the past and now that is why Jesus' words transcends generations.........

Even person§ who care less about God can sinÇerely tell you the dÉ-merits of materialism...I just don't know why you've chosen to see no wrong with it just because the teachings of Jesus kicks Àgainst it.......

In Nigeria and outside nigeria mÀterialism would always be a bane....it drags any Çount®y baÇk ward and deprives the less priviledged of any opportunity for survival....that iÑsatiable desire for wealth is what has led to our(nigeria) having thieves as politicians,militant§,Çharlatans in churches,yahoo yahoo boys etc...........

I hope you do know why the economies of various countries today are crashing..No??........greed and the quest to get richer !!!!....!!!!!!.

Jesus' words would always stand the test of time..........