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Argument Against Supernatural God. by Kay17: 10:31pm On May 17, 2013 |
1. God is a necessary being 2. If God exists, he necessarily exists 3. God is a Supernatural Cause. 4. Causes can be Natural. 5. A cause is either supernatural or natural. 6. A cause is not necessarily Supernatural. 7. Therefore God is not necessary and hence can not exist. |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by FOLYKAZE(m): 8:50am On May 18, 2013 |
Too weak. Im sorry if im not on point with you. |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by 2nedo(m): 9:04am On May 18, 2013 |
Where ur soul n spirit connected prove existence of God.Stop thinking ru.bbish else u go gaga |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by kambo(m): 9:12am On May 18, 2013 |
Kay 17: 1. God is a necessary being organize your thoughts properly before posting.. wat nonsense garbled garbage is this. Your a disgrace to your atheist folks.. bullet lists of nonsense. nonsense = not making/lacking sufficient sense to b understandable.. 2 Likes |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Lovethywilbedon: 10:22am On May 18, 2013 |
Kay 17: 1. God is a necessary beingWhat a "TRUNCATED SENCELESS LOGIC". Let me give you a similar analogy of what you posted, and I will see what you can make out of it. 1. ALCOHOL is a necessary liquid. 2. If ALCOHOL exist, it necessarily exist. 3. ALCOHOL is an artificial liquid. 4. Liquids can be natural. 5. A Liquid can be artificial or natural. 6. A Liquid is not necessarity artificial. 7. Therefore ALCOHOL is not necessary and hence can not exist. The loophole in you logic is in the CONCLUTION that if something is not necessary, hence, it can not exist. If this is true, then why is it that "byproducts of metabolism"(which are no more necessary) still exist? |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by DeepSight(m): 10:41am On May 18, 2013 |
Kay 17: 1. God is a necessary being Are you drunk or something? |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Nobody: 10:58am On May 18, 2013 |
This one na case of speaking (typing) before you think. |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Emusan(m): 11:00am On May 18, 2013 |
I'm very sure you're not a scientist like Folykaze. |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Nobody: 11:01am On May 18, 2013 |
Kay 17: 1. God is a necessary being Ain't you the God? You exist,you are and same is everyone! |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Kay17: 12:27pm On May 18, 2013 |
Lovethywilbedon: What a "TRUNCATED SENCELESS LOGIC". Let me give you a similar analogy of what you posted, and I will see what you can make out of it. No my conclusion was: if a necessarily existing being/thing is not necessary, then it doesn't exist NOT If something is not necessary, it doesn't exist. |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Kay17: 12:29pm On May 18, 2013 |
Deep Sight: I'm sure I'm not. kambo: Just point out what's wrong with it. |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Nobody: 12:32pm On May 18, 2013 |
There's nothing to explain in your post. It lacks coherence and common sense. |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Lovethywilbedon: 2:34pm On May 18, 2013 |
Kay 17:WHAT A CONTRADICTORY, FALLACIOUS LOGI 1. a NECESSARILY..... being IS NO NECESSARY? Please explain HOW? 2. EXISTING being, if not necessary, THEN IT DOESN'T EXIST? Please explain HOW? Because, Just as "Andromeda Galaxy", is NOT NECESSARY to the the inhabitants of the planet "Earth" (Milky Way Galaxy). So therefore, "Andromeda Galaxy" DOES NOT EXIST. But we all know that Andromeda DOES EXIST. See Kay 17 I have an advice for you, when next you want to prove a point, dont employ propositional logic because it is very obvious you know next to nothing about "LOGIC" |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Kay17: 4:38pm On May 18, 2013 |
^^^ Your objection number 2 was what I was exactly trying to correct you about! I wasn't saying an existing being is not existing for being contingent, rather God's essential quality is existing necessarily, thus placing him beyond validation by experience or empiricism. God wldnt not exist, if he doesn't do so necessarily. |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Kay17: 4:38pm On May 18, 2013 |
kwangi: There's nothing to explain in your post. What don't you agree with?? |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by thehomer: 5:09pm On May 18, 2013 |
Kay 17: 1. God is a necessary being Looks interesting. Though I usually avoid ontological arguments because they're too easy to kick out. |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by thehomer: 5:09pm On May 18, 2013 |
Deep Sight: Did you spot a flaw? |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by thehomer: 5:10pm On May 18, 2013 |
kwangi: There's nothing to explain in your post. What line lacks coherence? |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by thehomer: 5:11pm On May 18, 2013 |
kambo: Which line or lines do you think make no sense? |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Nobody: 5:26pm On May 18, 2013 |
Kay, Sorry but you fail so hard..... Which kind reverse ontological argument is this? The ontological argumntalready fails....then to reverse it? Modal logic is garbage in, garbage out. Start with a false premise, end up with false conclusion Start with a true premise, end up with a good conclusion |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Kay17: 5:48pm On May 18, 2013 |
Thank you oh thehomer, bare insults and zero contributions. @logicboy I merely followed its trend. |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Nobody: 5:52pm On May 18, 2013 |
Kay 17: Thank you oh thehomer, bare insults and zero contributions. lol....but why...why did y do it? lol...... I am bored......nowadays, there is no difference between Anony and Ijawkid in terms of arguments....... Is there no christian apologist anymore? |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Lovethywilbedon: 6:07pm On May 18, 2013 |
Kay 17: ^^^By the way WHO DECIDES WHAT IS NECESSARY? |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by thehomer: 6:21pm On May 18, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Oh they're apologists all right. They're just bad at it. 1 Like |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Nobody: 6:26pm On May 18, 2013 |
thehomer: lol.....Anony has truly lost his touch.....very rare that I unfollow his threads! Or maybe i can take this as a good sign that atheists have finally cornered the christians..... |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by thehomer: 6:30pm On May 18, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Just in the Nairaland religion section. ![]() They might combine with Muslims to crush atheists out there in Nigeria. ![]() |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Kay17: 7:39pm On May 18, 2013 |
Lovethywilbedon: By the way WHO DECIDES WHAT IS NECESSARY? Before we get to that, is the argument valid on its own premises and conclusions?? |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by noblefada: 9:52pm On May 18, 2013 |
Logicboy03: @logicboy I ws not even going to comment dis thread becos of the logic jargons n u bailed me out. Laughing at d thought u've xtians cornered, becos u guys have not come across xtians that are very knowledgeable. In some of previous posts I ws able to answer some of ur questions. I think I might just have a little time 4 all u nairaland atheists 2nite. |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by kambo(m): 10:02pm On May 18, 2013 |
thehomer:I may make an effort later to respond more fully to this incoherent babble by the OP. but , if he's really convinced he did his best and is only being bashed out of wrong sentiments, he can anonymously email his posting to a more respected authority (or authorities) and observe their replies. most wont bother replying or will politely correct him the impatient ones who've had a bad day will tell him the raw truth. posting as if your learning rules of grammer and thinking at the same time while composing ur post.. interesting to see some atheistic solidarity here. God or no God/ man can't do without a sense of FAMILY and that is God's invention. isnt God wise? ** terribly bored of this site,nowadays..** |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by Nobody: 5:19am On May 19, 2013 |
noblefada: lol.....you want to be denunked? ![]() |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by wiegraf: 6:13am On May 19, 2013 |
Kay 17: 1. God is a necessary being If he isn't necessary that would mean he (very) likely doesn't exist, not that he necessarily doesn't exist, no? That he's surplus to requirements (by quite some way imo, so much so it's illogical to assume he exists), but not definitely so. Unless I'm missing something, of course. |
Re: Argument Against Supernatural God. by DeepSight(m): 6:18am On May 19, 2013 |
thehomer: You didn't? |
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