And yet these hypocritical Westerners will open their dirty mouths and tell us that "polygamy is bad" and "uncivilized" while homosexuality is "good" and "proper"

And Africans are accepting their logic that marrying or screwing more than one woman is "bad" while marrying or screwing another man is "good".

Smh!!

Ijogz K: Great Move!!! It's only an illiterate that would see something wrong at making your sexual preference and Taste

Nobody is against them doing whatever they want. The question is why they need to be married when marriage has already been established as being between man and woman. Very soon, they will be fighting for equal child birth rights that gay people are entitled to children and research should go into making them conceive without the opposite sex. Tolerating something doesn't make it normal. They can bang whoever they want but stop preaching that being Gay is normal cos it isn't.

oh it says France not Nigeria!!..*sighs* ...no marriage or any union of such for u gay bastards!!! go hang urselves!!..duh!!!....d public frowns at such abominable act!

gothrones:

So according to you, barren women, impotent men, and old people have no right to adopt and raise kids, since nature is not in their favor? Where do you geniuses come up with these rules? How do you know nature's laws?

Apples and Oranges my friend. Quit being childish.
Are all women barren? Are all men impotent?
Name one single gay couple that can conceive without the opposite sex.

ijawkid:


You are a fool for encouraging gay marraige....a disgrace to nature........

When the urges of self gratified fools like yourself and gays alike are tired of exploring sex with same sex and they insist on having it with animals with no government frowning at it they would go all out with placa®ds screaming for It to be openly practiced like what we have on ground now.........

.you think sanctioning gay marraige is what is moving the western world forward??.......

quit wasting ya time on damned asz drilling bastards!!!

All hell broke loose in far away Middle East, four millennia ago, when a group of practicing homosexuals attempted to gang rape angels in a bid to practicing their right to ‘alternative lifestyle’. It was the first gay movement in recorded history, setting - Sodom. The English word ‘sodomy’ is an etymological offshoot of that incidence. Apparently, these dare-devils (or rather dare-angels), had clamored for ‘gay rights’ before taking it a step further- outright lawlessness.

Fast forward forty centuries later, history has come to repeat itself - this time in the Western world as the sodomites in the United States have been militantly demanding not just to do whatever they wish to do behind closed doors, but, more importantly, that society fully accept their lifestyle as both healthy and normal, even demanding special rights and legislation as an "oppressed minority." Already six states in the United States, including the latest addition-New York, have legalized gay marriages. The church is not spared this gross pervasion as many gay couples are being wedded and ordained into ministry in some circles. What the Bible says should not even be mentioned amongst believers has suddenly become the major ‘matters arising’.

Though this write up will be in series to expose the devils plan in the gay agenda, this first chapter is geared towards making us learn from history lest we repeat the mistakes of history.
Read more » http://judewatchman..com/2011/07/gay-movement-and-mystery-of-history-by.html#more

ijawkid:

Hope you know you are an arrant fool??....

Why should gays even want children??...let them have sex and produce children......i-diots........

They are fighting for useless rights but want to have and raise kids which there union contravenes........

Carry-on, carry-on. Continue displaying your "Christ-Like" Behavior. If a wild beast like you can be allowed to have kids, why can't decent Homosexuals be allowed to adopt Children. It has been proven that being raised by Homosexual parents has no adverse effects on the Children.

Van snickers:

Carry-on, carry-on. Continue displaying your "Christ-Like" Behavior. If a wild beast like you can be allowed to have kids, why can't decent Homosexuals be allowed to adopt Children. It has been proven that being raised by Homosexual parents has no adverse effects on the Children.

Maybe we should all just be raised by gay couples then.
Nonsense

sakaguchi:
Look at this man! Who told you weed does not have impact on its users.....na wa for you O!!

No, I didn't say it doesn't have impact on its users. I said the bill won't fly cos popular opinion is against it being legalized. Those opinions translate to votes at the end of the day.

Ah ah...weed wen some pastors advise him members to dey use cook ofe akwu and bangaa soup.

O ga o!

Nuzo':


Logically, I think there's everything wrong with it.

The individuals who contributed sperm (man) and eggs (woman) should be the ones with the rights to raise a child. There's a reason nature had it that way.

But to be fair on you, the logic is a bit flawed knowing that about half of the children in most western countries are being raised by single parents. That's worst to me....kind of.

In as much as heterosexual people are the breeders of new generation, don't forget that there are millions of kids suffering in homes mainly because these homes are by single parents especially single mothers. Surveys taken many times over has always indicated that single-parent homes earn far more lesser than two-parent homes. Now let's ask a question, these children growing up in single-parent homes are they not being denied their rights to a father and mother as someone before spuriously claimed? We all know of many divorce cases where one parent willingly divorces the other and put in false alibis just to claim sole ownership of the children. Now, isn't that an injustice overtly smacking the face of parental rights of these children? Aren't these divorced parents clearly denying these kids of their rights to two parents? Now, children growing up in these single parent homes experience lower financial status, less stability, less parental care resulting from the fact that the sole parent has to fend financially for the family. Following the logic that every child is entitled to a father and mother by default, then millions of single parent homes should be deemed illegal by law and sanctioned heavily. All single parents should be decreed to marry again before children can live with them.

Now, what's wrong if an extra parental figure comes into the picture to complete the setting? Does it matter if they are of the same sex? If two people of the same gender fall in love and decide to spend the rest of their days together, how does it affect or diminish your own marriage in anyway? Or have you forgotten that it is the love that matters the most in a family? Many successful people today grew up in single parent homes, without a mother or father. This fact alone flatly squashes the 'right to father and mother' claim outright. In the same vein, many people languishing in jail, robbers, sex offenders, fraudsters grew up in father-mother homes yet nothing wrong is being said about father-mother homes.

Worldwide there are millions of kids abandoned by their heterosexual parents who are languishing in motherless babies home. These kids need love and parental care. Many heterosexual couples are not willing to adopt these babies but rather want to have their own babies. Yet, gay couples are willing to accept with full arms embrace these kids their heterosexual counterparts have rejected. These gay couples even go as far as breaking racial barriers and going to far away countries to adopt babies/children of different races. From analysis, all gay couples are asking for is the right to adopt these jettisoned kids and provide them the parental love and care their heterosexual parents have failed to give them. What is the outlining motive in their action? Clearly its love. Countless of studies conducted by family focused organizations and groups have indicated that children raised in same-sex households fare equally well as their counterparts raised in heterosexual households and have therefore recommend the legal recognition of these relationships in the spirit of fairness and equality.

The opposition against gay people and homosexuality is fast losing its appeal worldwide. People are beginning to set prejudice aside and starting to reason from the human angle of compassion. More and more countries are moving in the favour of gay people. Why? Because they clearly have a point! Any clear-reasoning intellectual person who sees things without bias will know that the opposition against gay people is totally prejudicial. That is why president Barack Obama decided to come out in full support. Even Wole Soyinka of blessed Nigeria speaks in favour of gay rights.

To those crying that gay marriage is the end of the world, now ask yourselves this - those countries that have long made it legal, why hasn't the world crashed in on them as widely speculated? Denmark was the first country to legalize same sex marriage in 2001, its 12 years now and still counting yet the country is yet to witness the so-called 'doom' protesters ranted the air with. Argentina did the same, people cried foul yet the country has waxed on stronger. Many other countries have followed suit, yet the worst as expected is yet to come.

The issue of gay rights is the last fight for equality in the history of human rights. First it was the fight against slavery, followed by the emancipation of blacks, next was the fight against racism, next was the fight for women's rights, next was the legal recognition of interracial marriages and now gay rights. The world indeed is fast becoming a better place.

cr8v: All hell broke loose in far away Middle East, four millennia ago, when a group of practicing homosexuals attempted to gang rape angels in a bid to practicing their right to ‘alternative lifestyle’. It was the first gay movement in recorded history, setting - Sodom. The English word ‘sodomy’ is an etymological offshoot of that incidence. Apparently, these dare-devils (or rather dare-angels), had clamored for ‘gay rights’ before taking it a step further- outright lawlessness.

Sister, the bible says otherwise. Ezekiel 16:49 gives an entirely different reason for the destruction of Sodom.

Already six states in the United States, including the latest addition-New York, have legalized gay marriages. The church is not spared this gross pervasion as many gay couples are being wedded and ordained into ministry in some circles. What the Bible says should not even be mentioned amongst believers has suddenly become the major ‘matters arising’.

The number is higher now. 12 states as of the latest count last week.

Though this write up will be in series to expose the devils plan in the gay agenda, this first chapter is geared towards making us learn from history lest we repeat the mistakes of history.
Read more » http://judewatchman..com/2011/07/gay-movement-and-mystery-of-history-by.html#more

There is no gay agenda. The fight for gay marriage is an equality fight and is no different from the fight for interracial marriages. Barely 40 years ago, it was totally wrong for one person of a race to marry from another race. Interracial marriages especially in the US were a taboo and very frowned upon. When the move to legalize interracial marriages was set into motion in the US supreme court in the 1970s, massive protests were held, oppositions ran high in numbers, as usual christian fanatics used bible scriptures to justify their prejudice, yet the court ruled in its favour. The court action was deemed by the general public as a terrible act of doomsday, yet interracial marriages kept on and boomed. Today, it is highly celebrated.

So far as injustice prevails in this world, the fight for human equality shall continue.

Yes, go ahead and label me gay. Any person in support of gay people is automatically gay. Barack Obama and Wole Soyinka are gay as well.

What is this world turning into?
*i know I'm against same sex marriage
*i know my fathers and mothers @the top (the law makers ) are against it.
*And I'm sure my children's children's children won't be against it.
* whether we like it or not this same law would be passed in my lovely country Nigeria.
#thats just the bitter truth#
*SAD*

Legalize animal-human marriages too. Aswell as polygamy and polyandry. Especially since some people see nothing wrong having multiple sexual partners. Despite the appeal and the apparent pleasure derived from homosexuality I regard it as a perversion of sexuality.

jamst: signs of end time

na for where dem call you come ds mata,any small tn u and ur kinds go talk signs of d end time,IMO Its Signs Of Your End Time.


First time am on any gay themed thread on NL with mature,reasonable,detailed interactions.looks like some are doing their homework.BTW,whether anyone or any Nation Likes it or not.freedom of expression and association,marriage to all LGBT's is inevitable as it currently is a hot topic in global politics.I read the Speech Navi Pilay delivered on behalf Of UN Sec Gen Ban Ki Moon at IDAHO(international day against homophobia and transphobia) in Hague.the note made it clear that the United Nations HRC has made gay rights an objective to accomplish.Mr Moon made it known that a review would be made for a resolution to be passed to abolish archaic sodomy laws and a full inclusive of gay rights in the UN declaration on human rights.it may take a years,decades,centuries,but it would be achieved.if 14 countries legalized gay marriages and all in total have approximately 46 million married same-sex couples.there's a notion in nigerians that because the west practices it,it must endorse it.world pscholygists have long removed homosexualty as a pschological disorder,but when african pscholygist speal they say it is,iif people like Nnenna Ukeje in the house of reps can fall for this saying it openly on the floors of the green chambers withouth a valid proof of where she came about her opinion.what Nigerians don't understand they murder,nigerian researchers are yet to bring up a case to support the widespread believe that being gay is a mental disorder.sensitive issues we don't touch.how many school,churches teach their ward on sex education cause,instead they make it seem like terrorism to ds kids.sex is bad is what you hear and teen rape and pregnancy are on the rise.
Assisted reproduction is a tough one for gay couples as most countries only of recent started including it in laws.surrogacy is very risky as the surrogates life is placed on a stake till the child comes.
Congratulations to france,Francoiz you need to move on with the french economy,leave the gay scene alone,you've done the most now.the bigger battle coming soon shouldn't be made your headache.

cr8v: All hell broke loose in far away Middle East, four millennia ago, when a group of practicing homosexuals attempted to gang rape angels in a bid to practicing their right to ‘alternative lifestyle’. It was the first gay movement in recorded history, setting - Sodom. The English word ‘sodomy’ is an etymological offshoot of that incidence. Apparently, these dare-devils (or rather dare-angels), had clamored for ‘gay rights’ before taking it a step further- outright lawlessness.

Fast forward forty centuries later, history has come to repeat itself - this time in the Western world as the sodomites in the United States have been militantly demanding not just to do whatever they wish to do behind closed doors, but, more importantly, that society fully accept their lifestyle as both healthy and normal, even demanding special rights and legislation as an "oppressed minority." Already six states in the United States, including the latest addition-New York, have legalized gay marriages. The church is not spared this gross pervasion as many gay couples are being wedded and ordained into ministry in some circles. What the Bible says should not even be mentioned amongst believers has suddenly become the major ‘matters arising’.

Though this write up will be in series to expose the devils plan in the gay agenda, this first chapter is geared towards making us learn from history lest we repeat the mistakes of history.
Read more » http://judewatchman..com/2011/07/gay-movement-and-mystery-of-history-by.html#more

are you some russian dume that believed there's a #gay propaganda#so ridiculous.stop peddling cheap hypocrisy,if you invest more and learn about history and culture of some regions you'd think otherwise,Persia used to be the hub of homosexuals in the middle east at a time but today Iran is world's most homophobic nation carryimg out execution more than Saudi Arabia.
Christians need go back to their holy book and rediscover that sodom and gommorah weren't destroyed because of homosexual intimacy or the attempted male gang molestation.among others it was hostility,inhospitality,idol worshipping and blasphemy against God.even the bible indicates the romance between David and Jonathan.though intimate acts between them wasn't recorded.homophobic christians can say the laws of moses said,paul said,but they can't say Jesus said ds against homosexuality in the bible.if Jesus had ever made such a message,believe me there wouldn't be gays or lesbians.in as much as the Son Of God never mentioned anything in support or against homosexuality,every other opposition as always been proved archaic and sentimental.I like to make myself believe the apostles who wrote the new testament purposefully skipped Jesus views on homosexuality.qst:how do you solve what you don't understand.you can't comprehend homosexuality yet you believe you can cure them.if there had been any Gay change therapy that has successfully changed the status of gays to straights worldwide,dn homophobia stands a chance.the catholic church,a strong opponent to gays and same-sex marriage can't produce a successful conversion method.bigotry in people is pointless.currently watching from the sidelines,Bergoglio will shock the world soon with strong catholic reforms that would also abolish the catholic church strong opposition.don't be fooled theirs no gay propaganda anywhere,not all things are covered by forces of spirutuality,some are above or below it.the devil as little or no role to play in gay rights or acceptance of same-sex unions worldwide.stop drooling in self assertion backe by radical sentiments.

bigfrancis21:

... Aren't these divorced parents clearly denying these kids of their rights to two parents? ... Following the logic that every child is entitled to a father and mother by default, then millions of single parent homes should be deemed illegal by law and sanctioned heavily. All single parents should be decreed to marry again before children can live with them.

In many of your previous post, (and just like all homesexuals generally do), you surreptitiously "weave half-truths with bare-faced lies"!
You have intentionally OMITTEd the glaring fact that the Children you are referring to, (in a "broken marriage" are SEARED BY THE 'SINGLE PARENT' THE CHILD LIVES WITH!

This is what makes the BIG DIFFERENCE!
None of the "Gay Couple" is the NATURAL FATHER/MOTHER of the Child they are adopting!
This is traumatic and psychologically damaging to the present and future happiness/health of such child.


If you must compare, compare "likes-with-likes", not Oranges and Apples!

If GAY PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE CHILDREN, let them sear their own children,....not surreptitiously "steal" children of "Normal people".

Touche!

Lastpage!

@VanSnickers

I believe that gays should be able to do whatever they want with THEMSELVES without the support of any law. People who attack/threaten them should face criminal charges just as is the case when any human being is discriminated against. However:

1) I see no reason why it makes sense for two men for example, to marry and then adopt kids- it sounds so darn selfish to me. People should be able to live with the repercussions of whatever lifestyle they choose to lead.

2) I don't believe heterosexual marriages and gay marriages are equal at all. These are two completely different things in my opinion and I could go on and on explaining why they are very different and should be treated as such.

3) The ideal situation for any child is to have both a father and a mum (as it has always been from time immemorial) to train/take care/guide them as they negotiate their paths through this complex world. I think it is very unfair to any child who is born of course to heterosexual parents to end up in the homes of homosexuals because the law made it possible. Such kids should be able to make such choices by themselves at least after they must have reached a certain age.

4) I do not agree with all western values. As far as I am concerned, there's absolutely nothing wrong with most of our African values which permits and interprets marriage solely as relationship between a Man and a Woman. Anything outside of that is foreign and could only be tolerated at most but not supported by law. ANd just as someone rightly pointed out- Westerners frown at polygamy but embrace homosexuality right? Doesn't polygamy also come with the consents of the adults involved too? I would advice you to think more deeply about these things you know.

I have tried my best to understand same-sex marriage, but somethings just don't add up.

Hezron Lorraine:
Christians need go back to their holy book and rediscover that sodom and gommorah weren't destroyed because of homosexual intimacy or the attempted male gang molestation.among others it was hostility,inhospitality,idol worshipping and blasphemy against God.

WHERE DID YOU GET THIS BALLOONY FROM?

PLEASE READ Gen. 19: 1- 13 AND 24, (especially Verses 5, 11, 12, 13 and 24)
Verse 5: They called to Lot, Where are the MEN who came to you tonight? "Bring them out so that WE CAN HAVE SE.EX WITH THEM"

Verse 11: They (Angels) struck the MEN (Homosexuals Gays) who were at the door (trying to forcefully gain entry) of the house, young and old, WITH BLINDNESS..

Verse 12 and 13: The two men said to Lot "Do you have anyone else (relations) in THIS CITY who belongs to you"? GET THEM OUT OF HERE BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO DESTROY THIS CITY". "The OUTCRY OF THE LORD against this people (Gays) is SO GREAT that HE has sent us to destroy it!

Verse 24: Then the Lord RAINED DOWN BURNING SULPHUR ON SODOM AND GOMORRAH!

How much "obvious" explanation and clarity do you still need?

Hezron Lorraine: even the bible indicates the romance between David and Jonathan.though intimate acts between them wasn't recorded.

I think you are very confused and deluded ...or maybe just too much "back serving" has affected your cognitive balance!

it is only in "present times", with morality completely eroded, that one would see "two men" (or women) walking hand-in-hand and you would not think, they must be "VERY GOOD, JOLLY FRIENDS"!

NOWADAYS, WHAT COMES TO MIND IS "GOD, THIS TWO ARE SHA.GGING EACH OTHER"!
DAVID "Loved Jonathan like l love my kid brother" .... not like you Gay peeps love & "sha.g" each other's backside!

If you have CONTRARY EVIDENCE, share it please.

Like Jesus rightly predicted in the Bible, "..And when you see ALL THESE THINGS HAPPENING, Be glad for "THE END OF THIS SYSTEM OF THINGS" IS VERY MUCH AT HAND".

Lastpage!

If homosexuality is right because it is practiced by two consenting adults, what is wrong with two consenting adult relatives, say adult father and daughter getting married? Tell me! You supporters of what is evil!