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Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by Nobody: 8:09pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
Hilarious, hilarious comments i'm reading here, i'm beginning to think this is a joke. |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by alexleo(m): 9:05pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
DrummaBoy: Its a pity this thread has to run these number of pages discussing what is not an issue at all Save your nonsense. Understanding bible means when i understand it your own way? See how horrible human beings can be. Again what has tithe got to do with the discussion here must all your contribution be about tithe? Thank God you are not the moderator to close the thread because what is good to you may be nonsense to me and vice versa. Moreover you are not the OP that we are responding to so you can as well go your way. After all we didnt even recognize that you ve not been here until you came and we wont remember you ve left as well. Or are you feeling important. |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by naijaboyof4life(m): 9:11pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
SpicyMimi: I know too much of anything is bad, and ve also accepted that wearing of Trousers is an abomination to God. My sister in the Lord, these issues you stated are issues of covetousness which is the last of 10 commandment but it is one of the reasons why many so called children of God will end on in hell. 1. The idea of weave and make-up comes from wanting to look like someone. wearing weave means that you want your hair to be like the white people. It is the same as bleaching. It is like your son or daughter rejecting your food, how will you feel. You wearing weave will be rejecting what God has given you. This same thing applies to make-up and wearing earrings, what are you making up, nothing. People misinterpret the God searched into the heart. It means God sees everyone as the same but judges the inside meaning that just because you are Nigeria does not mean you are 419 and just because you are born in a good family doesn't make you better than others born in different families. 2.It is good that you don't wear trousers don't listen to anybody talking about back in the days. The bible says that those people that didn't hear the word of God shall be judged by their works. I don't have much time but i will come back. 1 Like |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by naijaboyof4life(m): 9:15pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
frosbel: Those are who you call hypocrites just like the Pharisees but does that mean that you won't get saved or follow the truth because of some hypocrites 1 Like |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by Nobody: 9:21pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
SailorXY:Dude, learn to reason. Do you know that Irish men put on skirt which is their cultural wear? Do you know that an Efik man ties wrapper as their cultural attire? Do you know that 'jalamia' which is a gown is worn by both males and females? Do you know that in the before Jesus, during the time of Jesus and many years after Jesus even when that passage was written (male shouldn't wear females cloth and vice versa), both the males and females were all wearing gowns? But the gown worn by males differ from that of females but they were all gowns. My question for you is, all these people I mentioned above (including Jesus who put on gown) have they all sinned? 1 Like
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Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by alexleo(m): 9:28pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
frosbel: All these things you mentioned has to do with cleanliness and not make up. Dont mix things up. Moreover God clothed Adam and Eve so why should you bring in going naked. It doesn't fit into what you are responding to. Bible supports cutting of hair for men so what are you saying? There is a difference between cleanliness and make-up bros. For exmple- When you shave your eye lashes and apply eye shadow whats the gain? To make-up God's deficiency on your eye lashes. when you apply lip stick whats the gain? To make-up God's deficiency on your lips colour. when you bleach whats the gain? To make-up God's deficiency on your complexion. when you apply colours on the face and all that whats the gain? To make-up God's deficiency on the colour of your face. when you fix nails whats the gain? To make-up God's deficiency on your nails. Its not part of cleanliness because without those things one can still look clean and beautiful and with those things one can still be dirty so cleanliness is seperate from make-up. Thanks. 2 Likes |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by Pygru: 9:35pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by naijaboyof4life(m): 9:39pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
frosbel: so let's put it this way, a woman can wear a skirt, even a mini skirt, but she cannot wear a trouser even one that does not reveal anything women can wear mini-skirt in Christianity? where did you get that? The whole point of women not wearing trousers is because of modesty. Mini-skirt is just as bad as trousers it is even worse. Who told you that a woman wearing trousers doesn't expose her backside? Clothes that expose your private parts is not good. If a woman wears trousers, when they want to sit, the pants drop and then they pull it up because it exposing their bombom. Also if a man wants to pee really badly, all he does is go to a bush , bring out his thing and no one see his manlyhood but a woman that wears trousers will have to remove everything just to pee but if she was wearing skirt, all she has to do is pull it up a little, push her pant covering to one side and pee. 1 Like |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by dollypi(m): 9:53pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
I have to commend you Frosbel. I have read every single one of these pages with sheer amazement at the level of vulgarity displayed by self proclaimed spiritual brothers and sisters. From an independent point of view, Frosbel has carried himself with dignity, and has not responded to insults with vulgar words like some other people here. Who is showing more of Christ-likeness? Most "holy brothers", Why not pause and think? This is why the church is so powerless in Nigeria. The crusade grounds are filled to bursting, yet there is no measurable impact on the country because the masses refuse to know God for themselves. They would rather follow humans and their teachings. Majority of modern day Nigerian Christians are idolaters because they worship men of God, and forsake God himself. Millions go for church conventions, yet they will never take time to study the word, meditate and know God personally. Instead, they go home, beat their wives, fornicate, commit adultery, steal, cheat, watch porn to stupor, use vulgar words, and generally display character that repel unbelievers from God. Please think. It is not a sin to think. Meditation means to think deeply. It is scriptural to use your brain. Even God said "come, let's reason together..." 4 Likes |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by sureway1(m): 9:56pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
This know also,that in the last days perilious time shall come. for men shall be lovers of their own selves COVETOUS..UNHOLY,Without natural affection.despisers of those that are good. frosbel,Spicymini et al pls read 2timothy4 nd put devil2shame |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by sureway1(m): 10:06pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
Thank God the bible is written also in english.. the way to heaven is narrow only few will pass thru...but the way to hell is very broad to contian million..that is d way many pple will like to follow cos sin suit them..there are few truth here.. |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by Nobody: 10:11pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
frosbel: Guy u irritate me with the use of your inappropraite words. And then you use scripture to support. What gives you the right to call a church such as deeperlife and apostolic faith a 'cult'? Refrain from uttering such words so as not to bring unwanted judgement on yourself and Stop claiming knowlegde of what you are ignorant of. If something is too hard for you to understand, leave it alone your level of faith simply doesn't measure up. 3 Likes |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by Nobody: 10:13pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
preshuzpearl: There is only one CHURCH , the Church of GOD with Jesus as the Head. 1 Like |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by Nobody: 10:16pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
naijaboyof4life: Depends of the type of trouser, there are trousers that are not revealing, except of course you have a problem with lust , in which case you need to pray. ^^^^ Do you call this lady's dressing immoral ? If you do , you need prayer. 1 Like |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by dollypi(m): 10:16pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
preshuzpearl: cult /kəlt/ Noun A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. Do you understand now? 1 Like |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by dollypi(m): 10:24pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
Some of the most spiritual ladies I know, wear trousers. Their fruit shows Them to be genuine children of God. However, if you think it is sinful, then abstain from wearing it, just so you are at peace with yourself. However, you should never force your beliefs and interpretations down someone else's throat. There are weightier issues to concern oneself with, not trouser or make-up etc. God is not petty like we humans. 3 Likes |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by Nobody: 10:27pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
[size=14pt]"Blind guides! You strain your water so you won't accidentally swallow a gnat, but you swallow a camel!" - Matthew 23:24 [/size] This is a Gnat This is a Camel [img]http://3.bp..com/-ydQ4pWasBbw/UEBp_GXztYI/AAAAAAAAPV8/fjMZw60jEIM/s1600/Camel6.jpg[/img] In other words the Pharisee focus on trivial things ( Gnat ) like touch not, eat not, do not wear this or that, do not go there etc , but they ignore the mightier issues ( Camel ) of love , ,mercy and kindness. It is obvious that these people want to bring you under their system of bondage, do not allow it. 1 Like |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by sureway1(m): 10:28pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
Frosbel spicymini et al did argument maybe for a reason no1 knows what will happen in the next minute to me l do not assume u are lgnorant of d truth pls just drop ur brousing source pray an go 2ru ll timothy 3.. HELL IS REAL. |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by sureway1(m): 10:30pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
Frosbel spicymini et al dis argument may be for a reason no1 knows what will happen in the next minute to me, l do not assume u are lgnorant of d truth pls just drop ur brousing source pray an go 2ru ll timothy 3.. HELL IS REAL. |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by SpicyMimi(f): 10:34pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
[quote author=gentlegg][/quote] Thanks sooo much for taking your time to answer my previous questions. God bless you too. Thanks to everyone as well, God bless you all in Jesus name,Amen! |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by Pygru: 10:38pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
frosbel: [size=14pt]"Blind guides! You strain your water so you won't accidentally swallow a gnat, but you swallow a camel!" - Matthew 23:24 [/size]kai!!!!!!! |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by dhandsome(m): 10:41pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
first of all trouser aint a sin bt indecent dressing is a sin, hw u dress matters to d whole world and to heaven. Decency should b a life style. Then make up is in different way,decent and indecent, in james d bible say a lover of d world is an enemy of God, God is nt against us luking gud bt he is against us looking lyk pple of d world. Corinthians say cum out frm among them and be ye seperate,u must b different frm d world,d difference is wat wil mk d difference, dnt dress to seduce or major up to d world,dress decently |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by SpicyMimi(f): 10:44pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
OLAADEGBU:thanks so much. Actually, i ws kinda confused and still confused why going to the hospital should be a sin? Honestly Frosbel got nothing to do with this, am just really more concerned about this. |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by naijaboyof4life(m): 10:48pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
koastar: Deuteronomy 22:5 "A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this" You show that you lack understanding of the word of God. All what the bible is saying is that whatever that has being made for man cannot be worn by woman and whatsoever that has being made for a woman cannot be worn by man. 1. The picture looking like Jesus Warning: Do not post picture that depict Jesus, that is idolatry. worship him in spirit and truth. Now back to the dressing in the days of Israel. They wore robes but even though in the old days everyone wore robes, the robes made for men were different than the robes made for women. Therefore, if a man were to wear a woman's robes (or vice versa) they would be in violation of the commandment that I quoted above. The traditional dress that you posted, is that how the women dress? That is a traditional dress for MEN in that environment but that is NOT the same thing the women wear in that environment,so if the women went on to wear what what they were wearing, it will be sin. Then you posted the men in ireland wearing skirt like clothing. FOR your information that is NOT skirt. That is what they call kilts. In Ireland the men wear kilts, the kilts was MADE FOR THE MEN and a dress longer than that was made for the women, so if a woman went on to wear a kilt, that would be a sin. Then Trousers and skirts were created by the Europeans. Trousers for the men and skirt for the women. So if a man wear a skirt, it is a sin and vice versa. So my brother clothing is different in every culture but in a culture a clothing is created for men and a clothing is created for women, if either of them leave their clothing and start wearing the opposite sex clothing, it is considered an abomination to God. Will you allow your son to wear skirt? In fact can you wear skirt? If you can't wear it then I don't see why women can wear it. God set this rule so that there can be distinction between both sex and to create order because our Lord God is a God of orderliness. |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by naijaboyof4life(m): 10:50pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
frosbel: clothing is different in every culture but in a culture a clothing is created for men and a clothing is created for women, if either of them leave their clothing and start wearing the opposite sex clothing, it is considered an abomination to God. Will you allow your son to wear skirt? In fact can you wear skirt? If you can't wear it then I don't see why women can wear it. God set this rule so that there can be distinction between both sex and to create order because our Lord God is a God of orderliness. |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by Nobody: 10:53pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
naijaboyof4life: Has nothing to do with culture, there are men's trousers and there are women's trousers, there are men's skirts and there are women's skirts, there is indecent dressing and there is modest dressing. Our business is not to set rules for believers. |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by Nobody: 11:01pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
SpicyMimi: Please do not follow me, read the bible and be led by GOD, my main concern is for you as a sister in the faith, I have a mission to warn believers about the bondage of religion which is what many of these churches practise. I almost died listening to these people , now I will only listen to voice of JESUS CHRIST , period. "At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Messiah!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it." - Matthew 24:23 If you want to know Jesus, he is a knee away from you in the closet, pray and pour out your heart to him. Jesus is not bondage, you have to be careful about so called visions of hell and heaven, the bible is enough. "Don't let anyone condemn you by insisting on pious self-denial or the worship of angels, saying they have had visions about these things. Their sinful minds have made them proud," - Colossians 2:18 remember : "And no wonder, since Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light." - 2 Corinthians 11:14 1 Like |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by alexleo(m): 11:41pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
SpicyMimi: My dear, frosbel acted ignorantly just like some other members of the church at the time he was there. Dont mind him now using his ignorance to fight us here because i kick against the false teachings he is giving. No where did the church include such rules that hospital is a sin. The truth is that some members believed that James 5:14 means that we shouldnt go to hospital when we are sick rather we should call for prayers as instructed in that scripture i quoted and this has also been working for us over the years anyway. Death rate has always been normal like in any other church. And i still ask, dont people die in hospital. For frosbel to be talking as if once you go to hospital you wont die is just part of his deceits to get at me. However some overzealous ones took it to the extreme by regarding going to hospital as a sin not that the church authority in U.S.A(which is our headquarters where the church started) made such rules. They in the U.S.A. have been going to hospital from time immemorial. It was just Africans that interpreted James 5:14 to mean not going to hospital when the church got established here in the 30s and 40s. Even though now such rigid stands about hospital no more hold yet a lot of members still prefers to continue to abstain from it since they are receiving healing without hospital. But the church authority does not regard it as sin and they even send ministers to go and pray for the sick in hospitals. Ignore my erring friend frosbel(whom i like anyway). Be careful of frosbel and his team of false teachers. Read your bible, dont ignore messages rather cross check if they tally with the scriptures and if they dont, pls discard such message. God in his great love for us ministers to us in various ways. It was through a message here(which frosbel has been condemning ) that he used to minister to you to pray for salvation. He can use a teaching, a sermon, a vision, a biblical verse, a song, a word of advice from someone, a discussion or whatever means he find suitable at the time to minister to anybody. The message he used to minister to you couldnt have come from the devil because the devil CAN NEVER engage in anything that will make somebody to seek for salvation. Pls be careful. We are not telling you to join our church but we are saying, keep in constant relationship with JESUS, the author and finisher of our faith. God bless you. |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by Nkemsplendid: 11:54pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
SpicyMimi: Sin seems to be a relative matter when it comes to believers of the 21st century. Men of God will find interesting ways of twisting bible verses till they justify their teachings on what is and what is not a sin. It has been a most painful part of my ministry as a pharmacist married to a paediatrician to watch children of God die because they would not take their medication, because they were told by pastors that accepting a surgical procedure was a sign that they trust the ultra sound report more than the Lord. They keep impressing these opinions on brethren who are at a vulnerable period of their lives until the patient is full of guilt for even being in the hospital. God has used us to reach a lot of such people, parents who would rather watch their children die than allow a blood transfusion, husbands that refuse a bleeding wife a transfusion on the operating table, I think the most common would be the women who refuse a ceaserian section in cases of complicated births... the list is endless. Spicymimi I can understand why you are confused that some denominations can actually ask people not to seek medical attention when they need it, but it is real and unfortunate. As for the trouser and makeup story, seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all other things shall be added unto you... including a clear revelation on how to live your life, how to respond to fellow humans etc. You can seek him my sister by praying and meditating on his word. Many Nigerian christians today are giving in to laziness and using spiritual mercenaries to write the JAMB of heaven. It won't work. Get to know God for your self my sister, when you do it will be a sweet relationship. One that will turn you into a beautiful, pleasant lady that everyone will like to reckon with. Matt 5:16. God's grace to you my dear. 3 Likes |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by Nobody: 11:54pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
^^^^ Follow JESUS and you will not need to keep changing doctrine. 1 Like |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by Nobody: 12:03am On Jun 19, 2013 |
Nkemsplendid: Thank you so much for this piece, I was almost a victim to this same teaching and was hours away from death according to my parent who talked with the doctor. At this time I was still a young 18 year old undergraduate. I was in such a bad shape, that I ended up vomiting bile , could not eat , was like a famine struck victim and at a point could not communicate effectively . The church leaders kept praying and never once recommended I take medicine until my uncle begged and begged me to accept help which I did. I was rushed to the general hospital, some tests performed and admitted immediately in an emergency, stayed there for a week on drip and other drugs to regain health and vitality. Once recovered I fled away from that cult never even to go back there. Sorry for the horrific details of my experience. Not many were fortunate like me. Many have died. These churches prey on young students , the gullible and illiterates. If we are led by the Spirit we will not fulfil the lusts of the flesh , but if we are led by MEN , which seems to be in the majority of cases today , we will end up performing a legalistic type of religion with no good fruits. These are the same people that want to control how we dress, how we talk, where we go to , who we interact with etc. My question to them is what happened to the leading of the Holy Spirit. Thanks. |
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Make-up? by alexleo(m): 12:12am On Jun 19, 2013 |
frosbel: ^^^^ Which doctrine did we change? What changed was individual members understanding of the issue at hand? The church authority from inception had no such law. And when you were in the church why didnt you help to sensitize ignorant members rather than running away? Even you that is talking dont you change your stand as you keep studying the word and understanding it more and more?(though falsely). My friend you need to drop your pride because thats what makes you to rigidly stand on your false knowledge even when people are providing more clarifications to you on an issue. Anybody that does not adjust his stand as he studies the bible must have to check himself again whether he is alright because we are not perfect and as such must keep adjusting till we reach heaven where the process of our perfection would ve been completed. You always feel you are perfect about the bible thats why you always think we shouldnt be changing our stand. We dont need all those pride frosbel. |
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