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Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by amanda2013(f): 1:42am On Jun 30, 2013 |
beware of false prophets. 2 Likes |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by FOLYKAZE(m): 8:56am On Jun 30, 2013 |
obadiah777: CHIEF NA THESIS YOU WANT MAKE I WRITE SO ? LOL. ABEG FIND QUESTION THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE ME TO WRITE MORE THAN 10 LINES MAXIMUM OBADIAH Why are you falling my hand here bro. Are you keeping this message to yourself or you want others to learn from it? 1 peter 3:15-16 gave you the task to answer question and not to leave those that will to know into ignorance. You can break it one by one. Pls do bro 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by mcfynest(m): 11:46am On Jun 30, 2013 |
FOLYKAZE: Obadiah SMH 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:52am On Jun 30, 2013 |
mcfynest: was the post meant for you? Take your head to somewhere else or smash it to the wall |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 12:24pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
amanda2013: beware of false prophets.WHY ARE THOU PERSECUTETH ME WOMAN |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 12:31pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
FOLYKAZE: Obadiah 1-THE ENSLAVEMENT OF ISRAELITES THROUGH THE DIFFERENT GENTILE EMPIRES WHICH ARE CALLED THE BEASTS IN THE BOOK OF DANIEL, THE CHERUBIMS IN THE BOOK OF EZEKIEL, THE VALLEY OF THE SHADOW OF DEATH IN PSALMS, THE TRUMPETS IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION IS A NECESSARY RETRIBUTION FOR NOT DOING THEIR JOBS WHICH IS BEING A SPIRITUAL LIGHT TO THE GENTILES. INSTEAD THEY START DABBLING IN GENTILE DOCTRINES. ITS A 'WELL IF YOU WANT TO WORSHIP THEIR gODS I WILL ALSO PUT THEM OVER YOU SO YOU CAN SERVE THEM TOO'. PUNISHMENT. HOWEVER THE LAST SLAVERY IS THE TRANS-ATLANTIC SLAVERY. NO MORE SLAVERY AFTER THAT THE EMPIRE TRAJECTORY >>>> HAMITIC >>>> JAPHETIC >>>> SHEMETIC HAMITIC - EGYPTIAN AND BABYLONIAN JAPHETIC-ASSYRIAN AND MEDOPERSIAN SHEMETIC-GREEK AND ROMAN ( USA AND EUROZONE ) APART FROM THAT I AINT READ THE MOSES STORY IN A WHILE. I WILL HAVE TO BRUSH UP ON MY READING OF IT TO ANSWER THE REST 2 Likes |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 12:55pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
NOW THE STORY OF MOSES AND AARON. MOSES AND AARON ARE THE SEVEN EYES OF GOD IN THE HAMITIC EMPIRE EGYPT. THEY ARE THE TWO LAMPSTAND. THEY REPRESENT BOTH THE SOUTHERN AND NORTHERN KINGDOM OF ISRAEL. THE TWO WITNESSES. THEY ARE THE ELECT WHO FOUND FAVOR WITH THE HAMITIC DYNASTY SO THEY WERE PART OF THE EGYPTIAN ROYALTY. KINDA LIKE SHADRACH MESHAC AND ABEDNEGO. THEY WERE PRIVILLEGED SLAVES. BEING BORN AND PUT IN A BASKET ON THE RIVER MEANS WHILE THE EPHAH OF WICKEDNESS OF PHAROAH ( EGYPTIAN DOCTRINE AND PHILOSOPHY ) HAD TAKEN OVER THE WHOLE WORLD, ONLY THE ELECT ( MOSES ) STAYED ABOVE THE RIVER. HE DID NOT GET DROWNED BY THE EGYPTIAN DOCTRINE. HE HAD THE DOCTRINE OF THE LORD. HE STAYED ABOVE THE EGYPTIAN DOCTRINE. HE GREW UP IN PHAROAHS HOUSE MEANS HE WAS A PRIVILEGED PERSON IN EGYPT WHILE THE REST OF HIS PEOPLE WERE SLAVES. HE HAD A POSITION OF AUTHORITY AND RESPECT IN EGYPT, WHICH THE ELECT HAD. KILLING OF EGYPTIANS MEANS HE CONVERTED EGYPTIANS TO THE WAYS OF THE LORD. HE KILLED THEM TO THEIR OWN DOCTRINE AND TAUGHT THEM THE LORDS DOCTRINE. THE RUNAWAY ? I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT IN ANOTHER THREAD. HE RAN THROUGH THE RED SEA ( THE LAND OF EDOM ) WHILE THE LAND OF EDOM WERE HOSTILE TO THE EGYPTIANS. SO WHILE HE WAS ABLE TO ESCAPE THROUGH THE LAND OF EDOM, THE EGYPTIANS GOT SAVAGED AND DISCIPLINED AND TAKEN OVER BY THE LAND OF EDOM. 2 Likes |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by busoye19: 1:38pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
obadiah777: NOW THE STORY OF MOSES AND AARON. MOSES AND AARON ARE THE SEVEN EYES OF GOD IN THE HAMITIC EMPIRE EGYPT. THEY ARE THE TWO LAMPSTAND. THEY REPRESENT BOTH THE SOUTHERN AND NORTHERN KINGDOM OF ISRAEL. THE TWO WITNESSES. THEY ARE THE ELECT WHO FOUND FAVOR WITH THE HAMITIC DYNASTY SO THEY WERE PART OF THE EGYPTIAN ROYALTY. KINDA LIKE SHADRACH MESHAC AND ABEDNEGO. THEY WERE PRIVILLEGED SLAVES. BEING BORN AND PUT IN A BASKET ON THE RIVER MEANS WHILE THE EPHAH OF WICKEDNESS OF PHAROAH ( EGYPTIAN DOCTRINE AND PHILOSOPHY ) HAD TAKEN OVER THE WHOLE WORLD, ONLY THE ELECT ( MOSES ) STAYED ABOVE THE RIVER. HE DID NOT GET DROWNED BY THE EGYPTIAN DOCTRINE. HE HAD THE DOCTRINE OF THE LORD. HE STAYED ABOVE THE EGYPTIAN DOCTRINE. HE GREW UP IN PHAROAHS HOUSE MEANS HE WAS A PRIVILEGED PERSON IN EGYPT WHILE THE REST OF HIS PEOPLE WERE SLAVES. HE HAD A POSITION OF AUTHORITY AND RESPECT IN EGYPT, WHICH THE ELECT HAD. KILLING OF EGYPTIANS MEANS HE CONVERTED EGYPTIANS TO THE WAYS OF THE LORD. HE KILLED THEM TO THEIR OWN DOCTRINE AND TAUGHT THEM THE LORDS DOCTRINE. THE RUNAWAY ? I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT IN ANOTHER THREAD. HE RAN THROUGH THE RED SEA ( THE LAND OF EDOM ) WHILE THE LAND OF EDOM WERE HOSTILE TO THE EGYPTIANS. SO WHILE HE WAS ABLE TO ESCAPE THROUGH THE LAND OF EDOM, THE EGYPTIANS GOT SAVAGED AND DISCIPLINED AND TAKEN OVER BY THE LAND OF EDOM. Incredible! So the story of Moses and Aaron is not allegory? |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 1:45pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
busoye19:YUP. IT SURE IS SIRE |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 2:40pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
Obadiah777 Where are these elects you talk about ? How can one recognize if he/she is among the elect? Does it have anything to do with the opening of the third eye or spiritual awareness ? I learnt the opening of the third eye is irreversible and the consequence of this is SPIRITUAL DEATH. What are the characteristics of these so-called elects? How many are they? Can these elects ever aspire to get to any height in their career and accomplishments? Please furnish with these info Thanks obadiah777: SENDING HIS SON HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU. THATS CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU. HE SENT HIS SON TO REDEEM AND SAVE HIS ELECT FROM THE WORLD. (HIS 7 EYES IN THE WORLD, HIS TWO LAMPSTAND, HIS OLIVE BRANCH ), THAT IS. 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by sucessful1: 2:41pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
obadiah777: KJV IS THE ONLY PURE AND UNDILUTED AND UNTAMPERED WITH BIBLE SIRE Have u read KJV 1611? |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 2:53pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
drillskillz: Obadiah777VERY GREAT QUESTIONS SIRE. WHO ARE THESE ELECT ? THESE ARE THE FUTURE RULERS OF THIS WORLD. THE PERMANENT WORLD GOVT ELECTED BY CHRIST. IN THE WHOLE WORLD WE HAVE ABOUT 200 OR SO COUNTRIES WITH ABOUT 1000 POLITICIANS EACH AT FEDERAL STATE LOCAL GOVERNMENT JUDICIARY SENATE ETC ETC ALL KINDS OF LEVEL. WELL THATS ABOUT 200,000 OR SO POLITICIANS CONTROLLING THE WHOLE WORLD. HOWEVER THE LORDS POLITICIANS ARE 144,000. THE OWNERSHIP AND CONTROL OF THE WORLD WOULD BE GIVEN TO THEM PERMANENTLY FOREVER. THEY ARE THE FUTURE ROYALTY, THE FUTURE KINGS, AND THEY WOULD HAVE FAME ALL OVER THE WORLD ( ZEPHANIAH CHAPTER 3 ) HOW TO KNOW IF YOU ARE AMONG THE ELECT ? FIRST OF ALL AS AN ELECT YOU HAVE IT IN YOU THAT THESE KINGDOMS WE ARE IN NOW ARE ALL SATANIC KINGDOMS. ESPECIALLY THE KINGDOM ON TOP OF ALL THE KINGDOMS WHICH IS BABYLON THE GREAT AKA AMERICA. NOW IF YOU FIND YOURSELF HATING AMERICA WITH A PASSION NATURALLY AND EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR, THATS A SIGN. IF YOU ARE AFTER WORLDLY ASPIRATIONS AND GOALS AND ACHIEVEMENTS IN THIS CURRENT WORLD ? THEN YOU ARE MORE THAN LIKELY NOT AN ELECT BECAUSE AN ELECT REALIZES THAT THIS KINGDOM IS A TEST. AN ELECT IS SET APART IN THIS WORLD. THEIR LIFESTYLE IS DIFFERENT. YOU DONT HEAR THEM TALKING ABOUT CARS AND WOMEN ETC ETC. AN ELECT ENJOYS READING THE BIBLE AND BREAKING DOWN SCRIPTURES. AN ELECT COMMUNICATES WITH GOD THROUGH THE SCRIPTURES AND THROUGH DREAMS BUT MOSTLY THROUGH SCRIPTURES. SO IF YOU FIND YOURSELF READING THE BIBLE TWICE A WEEK ? THEN MOST LIKELY YOU ARE NOT AN ELECT. IF YOU FIND YOURSELF READING THE BIBLE ALL THE TIME. ANYTIME YOU GET YOU QUICKLY PULL OUT THE BIBLE TO READ, IF YOU GO TO THE TOILET, ON THE TRAIN ETC ETC YOU ARE MOST LIKELY AN ELECT. AND ALSO THE TESTIMONY OF CHRIST IN YOUR LIFE IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHESY. IF YOU PROPHESY OF COMING WARS ETC ETC BASED ON DREAMS YOU ARE GETTING FROM GOD AND FROM READING SCRIPTURES, YOU ARE MORE THAN LIKELY AN ELECT. 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 3:01pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
sucessful1:WELL I READ THE KJV AND IT IS THE SAME AS 1611 EXCEPT IT DOES NOT HAVE THE APOCRYPHA IN IT. HOWEVER I HAVE THE APOCRYPHA SEPERATELY |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 3:08pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
You didnt talk about the third eye . Have the elect undergone what i call SPIRITUAL AWARENESS? Can they be termed as Enlightened individuals ? Are there some of them who do not know they are part of the elect? When an elect marries an un-elect,what is the product of their union? If possible can you site examples of elects you know in the world or in Africa? Is it true they will always have to pass through a channel Jesus to reach God? And again ,can they aspire to any height of career fulfillment and accomplishments in this world we live in? thanks obadiah777: VERY GREAT QUESTIONS SIRE. WHO ARE THESE ELECT ? THESE ARE THE FUTURE RULERS OF THIS WORLD. THE PERMANENT WORLD GOVT ELECTED BY CHRIST. IN THE WHOLE WORLD WE HAVE ABOUT 200 OR SO COUNTRIES WITH ABOUT 1000 POLITICIANS EACH AT FEDERAL STATE LOCAL GOVERNMENT JUDICIARY SENATE ETC ETC ALL KINDS OF LEVEL. WELL THATS ABOUT 200,000 OR SO POLITICIANS CONTROLLING THE WHOLE WORLD. HOWEVER THE LORDS POLITICIANS ARE 144,000. THE OWNERSHIP AND CONTROL OF THE WORLD WOULD BE GIVEN TO THEM. THEY ARE THE FUTURE ROYALTY, THE FUTURE KINGS, AND THEY WOULD HAVE FAME ALL OVER THE WORLD ( ZEPHANIAH CHAPTER 3 ) |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 3:22pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
Helooooooooooooooo Are you there Obadiah777? drillskillz: You didnt talk about the third eye . |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 3:25pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
drillskillz: You didnt talk about the third eye .WELL THE ELECT ARE THE ILLUMINATED ONES. IF THAT MEANS THE THIRD EYE, SO BE IT. NOT SURE I HAVE HEARD IT CALLED THIRD EYE IN THE BIBLE. I THINK EGYPTOLOGISTS AND THE CONSCIOUS COMMUNITY USE THAT TERM. BUT THEY ARE DEFINITELY ILLUMINATED. I DONT THINK YOU REALLY KNOW YOU ARE AN ELECT TILL ALL IS REVEALED. YOU MAY HAVE SUSPICIONS AND INKLINGS THOUGH. LIKE YOU HAVE THIS FEELING THAT YOU ARE DIFFERENT AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER, AS AN ELECT YOU GET LOTS OF DREAMS FROM GOD. SO THERE IS A SUSPICION. THE SEED OF THE UNION ? SEED COMES FROM THE FATHER. THE KID WILL BE OF THE FATHERS LINEAGE. THE SEED WILL BE HEAVEN BOUND, IF THATS WHAT YOU MEAN. AN ELECTS FAMILY WILL ALL BE SAVED THROUGH HIM. AS SAID EARLIER, NO ONE KNOWS THE ELECT. BUT JUST WATCH HOW PEOPLE LIVE. YOU MAY GET AN INKLING. THE MAN ROLLING AROUND IN A HUMMER DEFINITELY AINT NO ELECT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR SURE LMAO A CHANNEL JESUS ? WELL JESUS IS THE ARCH-ANGEL OF THE ELECT SO YES. CAN THEY ASPIRE TO ANY HEIGHT OF CAREER FULFILLMENT AND ACCOMPLISHMENT IN THIS WORLD ? NO. THE ELECT HAVE THE MIND OF CHRIST AND CHRIST SAID EMPHATICALLY I AM NOT OF THIS WORLD. THE ELECT WOULD KNOW THEIR GLORY IS NOT IN A SATANIC WORLD. ITS LIKE TRYING TO GET YOUR SLICE OF HEAVEN IN HELL. 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 3:27pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
drillskillz: HeloooooooooooooooYOU ASK LIKE 10 QUESTIONS AND EXPECT THE ANSWERS TO FLY OUT IMMEDIATELY ? IF YOU DONT HAVE PATIENCE BRUV JUST ASK 1 QUESTION AT A TIME |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 3:37pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
Wow A brilliant response i must admit . what if i want to communicate with you outside of here ? I can drop my email so you can mail me if you cant drop yours . I want us to have a chat as there are more questions . Thanks obadiah777: WELL THE ELECT ARE THE ILLUMINATED ONES. IF THAT MEANS THE THIRD EYE, SO BE IT. NOT SURE I HAVE HEARD IT CALLED THIRD EYE IN THE BIBLE. I THINK EGYPTOLOGISTS AND THE CONSCIOUS COMMUNITY USE THAT TERM. BUT THEY ARE DEFINITELY ILLUMINATED. 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 3:39pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
drillskillz: WowARE YOU BASED IN NIGERIA ? |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 3:42pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
Yes am in Abuja Nigeria obadiah777: ARE YOU BASED IN NIGERIA ? |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 3:47pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
drillskillz: Yes am in Abuja NigeriaOK I AM GOING TO ADD YOU THEN YOU CAN ADD ME BACK THAT WAY WE HAVE OPEN COMMUNICATION ON PM AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO GIVE ME YOUR EMAIL THROUGH THERE THATS COOL |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by otipoju(m): 5:26pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
Someone once said that "the bible is like a horse that can be ridden in any direction"...the verity of those words are manifest on this thread... There is a thin line between eisegesis-using isolated bible verses to support your pre-concieved ideas, and exegesis-trying to understand the meaning of the words themselves comparing scripture with scripture to make a meaningful whole...I for sey make I talk many things, but something tells me it would be a waste of precious time. The wise ones will understand. 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 7:54pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
otipoju: Someone once said that "the bible is like a horse that can be ridden in any direction"...the verity of those words are manifest on this thread... There is a thin line between eisegesis-using isolated bible verses to support your pre-concieved ideas, and exegesis-trying to understand the meaning of the words themselves comparing scripture with scripture to make a meaningful whole...I for sey make I talk many things, but something tells me it would be a waste of precious time. The wise ones will understand.WELL SEEING AS YOU NO MAKE ANY POINT AT ALL YOU FOR JUST KEEP QUIET LIKE THE MIME YOU ARE. THIS HERE AINT NO GAME. THIS HERE IS SERIOUS BIDNESS |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by ATMC(f): 8:47pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
>>>>> MATTHEW 10 VS 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. [/quote]God is not a destroyer! D bible made us to understand dt d devil came to steal, to kill and to destroy. So he's d one who destroys souls in hell and not God. Study it again. |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 9:02pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
ATMC: >>>>> MATTHEW 10 VS 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.YOU ERR. THE DEVIL IS LIKE YOU AND ME WITH LIMITED POWERS. HE CAN ONLY DESTROY YOUR BODY. DEVIL SIMPLY MEANS 'DECIEVER'. ONLY PERSON WHO CAN DESTROY YOUR SOUL IN HELL IS GOD |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by mcfynest(m): 10:55am On Jul 01, 2013 |
FOLYKAZE: we dey fight 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by mcfynest(m): 10:58am On Jul 01, 2013 |
obadiah777: THATS HOW IT IS WRITTEN AS AN INSTRUCTION BUT IT IS ALLEGORY. pls show me biblical example to back up your assimption |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by MostHigh: 11:19am On Jul 01, 2013 |
otipoju: Someone once said that "the bible is like a horse that can be ridden in any direction"...the verity of those words are manifest on this thread... There is a thin line between eisegesis-using isolated bible verses to support your pre-concieved ideas, and exegesis-trying to understand the meaning of the words themselves comparing scripture with scripture to make a meaningful whole...I for sey make I talk many things, but something tells me it would be a waste of precious time. The wise ones will understand. Waste of time? Breaking bread can never be a waste of time. 2 Likes |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by SalC: 2:33pm On Jul 01, 2013 |
obadiah777: WELL THE ELECT ARE THE ILLUMINATED ONES. IF THAT MEANS THE THIRD EYE, SO BE IT. NOT SURE I HAVE HEARD IT CALLED THIRD EYE IN THE BIBLE. I THINK EGYPTOLOGISTS AND THE CONSCIOUS COMMUNITY USE THAT TERM. BUT THEY ARE DEFINITELY ILLUMINATED. Obadiah is at it again! Ok in a situation whereby the elect happen to be the woman, what happens to the product of the union? So an elect cannot cruise hummer? Will the elect be heavenly conscious and earthly useless? 2 Likes |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 3:06pm On Jul 01, 2013 |
MostHigh:YOU KNOW IT SIRE. SCRIPTURE SAYS DEBATE THEY CAUSE WITH THY NEIGHBOR 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Nobody: 3:08pm On Jul 01, 2013 |
Sal C:MATTHEW 10 VS 39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it <<< YUP THATS EXACTLY WHAT AM SAYING. HEAVENLY CONNECTED AND EARTH USELESS ( KEEP IN MIND HEAVEN WOULD BE ON EARTH ) AND THERE ARE NO ELECT WOMEN. IN THE KINGDOM THEIR WILL BE ORDER. WOMEN WILL RULE THE CHILDREN AND OTHER WOMEN. THE ELECT ARE ALL MEN ( REVELATION VERSE 7 ) |
Re: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by MostHigh: 3:13pm On Jul 01, 2013 |
obadiah777: MATTHEW 10 VS 39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it <<< YUP THATS EXACTLY WHAT AM SAYING. HEAVENLY CONNECTED AND EARTH USELESS ( KEEP IN MIND HEAVEN WOULD BE ON EARTH ) GBOSA for the bolded Sire. Its a very bitter pill to swallow for some. |
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