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Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by texaco1: 11:41pm On Jun 29, 2013
babyosisi:

There are people that will read you even after the thread is dormant and their eyes will be opened
Focus on them and don't be discouraged by those attacking you
Maybe God wants to set some people free by this wedding and the outcome they are making of it
i am not attacking anybody , i am trying to stress a point ,despite the fact that i cant be a member of deeper life because i find their laws too hard for my life style ,i will not lable them a CULT
calling them a cult is a very strong accusation

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Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by mykelsmart009(m): 11:43pm On Jun 29, 2013
emmm,dem say she show too much of her skin which is against d doctrine of Deeper Life.Bikonu ws d hubby nt aware of d wedding gown his baby will put on for her wedding?toh,since d guy like am nd him gree,as d son of d GO,i really don't see anytin wrong...imagine d comments nd comotn dat took place wen pst Kumuyi wore Agbada to preach on tv;d so called elders told d 'GO' dat it was wrong,meaning dey now knw more dan him.don't get me wrong,i'm nt trying to say som GOs can't mk mistakes but wat ever he does,shld be btw him nd God nd stop mendling in his personal affairs.same goes for his sons nd daughters.to me,apology or no apology,weddin hav happen...wat dey shld be tinkin now is makin babies as fast as possible,baba needs grandkids,mk dem hurry bfor dem begin tell dem sey how dey corpulate born pikin is wrong or not Biblical...smh for wat humans still are in dis generation.only God can hv Mercy........
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Nobody: 11:43pm On Jun 29, 2013

@ Frosbel,please tell me,does deeper life teach that they are the only ones practicing true Christianity and do they preach to other born again Christians with hopes of converting them to deeper life?

If your answer is yes
It is a cult.


Please respond
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by obainojazz(m): 11:44pm On Jun 29, 2013
seunlayi: John and Love Kumuyi whose wedding has been generating a lot of controversies has just tendered their apology to the church.
praise the lord...he has appologised.....*runs to check price of garri in the market...shit,its still the same old price*
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 11:45pm On Jun 29, 2013
frosbel:

well , seeing that you were booted out of the political section for being a nuisaance , and now you are here doing the same thing, there has to be something wrong, no ?
Booted out grin grin grin
Na because of you I come religion section.
The day you leave Nairaland religion section, I go return!!!

smiley
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 11:47pm On Jun 29, 2013
babyosisi:

Characteristics of a religious cult


They practice separatism and devote much of their time trying to proselyte others.

Their efforts to convert others are underhanded and manipulative.

The group’s leaders claim to be God’s prophets or messiahs or apostles who receive “divine revelations.”

They teach that all other churches and groups are lost unless they surrender what they have and join them.

Their leaders are dictatorial and demanding, either directly or subtly.

They claim to have the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Members are expected to attend study sessions where they are firmly indoctrinated (“brainwashed”) with the group’s mundane creeds and human theories.

They resent having their doctrines and creeds questioned.

They believe salvation and afterlife are found only in their camp.

Those who desert the group are judged evil and apostates.

They dictate almost every facet of the members’ lives—sexual, social, domestic, political, and spiritual.

They deny that God has other children scattered over the hills and valleys of sectarianism.

They believe God’s elect are found only within the borders of their own enclosure.

Honest dissidents are disciplined, avoided, and excommunicated.

They insist on strict conformity to the group’s doctrinal standards.

Their teachings contradict plain truth.

Their source of authority is of human origin.

They require a new convert to be rebaptized, even though he was sincerely baptized previously.

They have devised their own translation of the scriptures and prohibit any translation not approved by them.

Members are expected to give large amounts of money and ample energy and time to the group’s activities.

They allege to be the only legitimate interpreters of scripture.

They wrest scripture to foster their belief system.

There are other cultic marks unknown to this scribe, but these are sufficient to establish our premise.


http://www.mindspring.com/~renewal/Cults.html

are you in anyway related to frosbel
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Ntabeh: 11:48pm On Jun 29, 2013
Can we see the sample of the apology speech, all d same it doesnt make sense to me becos deep life pple r the most wicked pple on earth.shikena

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Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by texaco1: 11:48pm On Jun 29, 2013
Pygru:
are you in anyway related to frosbel
i wonder ooo
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by flourishG(m): 11:48pm On Jun 29, 2013
frosbel well done.gett all these religious cults n hypocrite on the run.they teach others cannot do a thing n their children do same.that's madness,hypocrisy n occultic.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by texaco1: 11:48pm On Jun 29, 2013
Ntabeh: Can we see the sample of the apology speech, all d same it doesnt make sense to me becos deep life pple r the most wicked pple on earth.shikena
haba
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Nobody: 11:49pm On Jun 29, 2013
Soloter: My dear brother and sister (John n Love), I am also a member of the church(a Coordinator) but i say, if not for the sake of pleasing those who felt offended, there is no point apologising. You owe no man any apology. God is not angry with you for marrying a woman. You didn't marry a man. Hear Paul on a similar case; "... Let no man trouble me, I bear the marks of CHRIST" not men. There was no problem with sister Love's dressing before God and Men. The devil only pushed outsiders to make unnecessary hullabaloo which was supported by a microscopic envious fault finding brethren in the Church. May God forgive them all for making my brethren(John & Love) to feel guilty for no cause.

Thank God there are people in DL that worship God in Spirit and in truth
It looks like they are in the minority though or the voice of the cultish ones drown theirs
People like you need to rescue this church or leave it
This thread is bringing shame to the Christians that love the people of God beyond denomination lines
It is bringing ridicule to Christendom
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by flourishG(m): 11:50pm On Jun 29, 2013
Pygru:
are you in anyway related to frosbel
u must b insane by this comment.so they don't hv right to talk? Or expose d cult church?y are u covering evil?are u alright?
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by texaco1: 11:51pm On Jun 29, 2013
babyosisi:

Thank God there are people in DL that worship God in Spirit and in truth
It looks like they re in the minority though or the voice of the cultish ones drown theirs
and what do they majority worship ?kumuyi abi ?
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by flourishG(m): 11:52pm On Jun 29, 2013
Babyosisi,welldone sweerie.God bless u.I love women who stand for truth.keep 'em coming.

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Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 11:53pm On Jun 29, 2013
babyosisi:

There are people that will read you even after the thread is dormant and their eyes will be opened
Focus on them and don't be discouraged by those attacking you
Maybe God wants to set some people free by this wedding and the outcome they are making of it
There is a season and time for everything.
grin grin grin
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by texaco1: 11:54pm On Jun 29, 2013
flourishG: Babyosisi,welldone sweerie.God bless u.I love women who stand for truth.keep 'em coming.
what truth?making unguided allegations without any evidence ?prove to us all that deeperlife is a cult.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Nobody: 11:54pm On Jun 29, 2013
babyosisi:
@ Frosbel,please tell me,does deeper life teach that they are the only ones practicing true Christianity and do they preach to other born again Christians with hopes of converting them to deeper life?

If your answer is yes
It is a cult.


- Deeperlife has the impression that it is one of the few remaining light bearers of the true gospel

- they want their members to feel privileged to be part of their church

- they almost worship their pastor

- to leave their church is akin to backsliding even though you may still believe in Jesus

- if you have formed friendships during your time with deeperlife, you lose almost all of them because they are warned that you are dangerous

- if you challenge their doctrines, God help you, because according to them their doctrines are 100% infallible.

If this is not a cult , I truly do not know what else is.

smiley

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Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 11:55pm On Jun 29, 2013
texaco1:
i wonder ooo
That was how she was jumping about grin for that other thread.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by texaco1: 11:55pm On Jun 29, 2013
frosbel:


- Deeperlife has the impression that it is one of the few remaining light bearers of the true gospel

- they want their members to feel privileged to be part of their church

- they almost worship their pastor

- to leave their church is akin to backsliding even though you may still believe in Jesus

- if you have formed friendships during your time with deeperlife, you lose almost all of them because they are warned that you are dangerous

- if you challenge their doctrines, God help you, because according to them their doctrines are 100% infallible.

If this is not a cult , I truly do not know what else is.

smiley
so those members of redeem that take adeboye as their lord too , they are cultist
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Nobody: 11:56pm On Jun 29, 2013
frosbel:


- Deeperlife has the impression that it is one of the few remaining light bearers of the true gospel

- they want their members to feel privileged to be part of their church

- they almost worship their pastor

- to leave their church is akin to backsliding even though you may still believe in Jesus

- if you have formed friendships during your time with deeperlife, you lose almost all of them because they are warned that you are dangerous

- if you challenge their doctrines, God help you, because according to them their doctrines are 100% infallible.

If this is not a cult , I truly do not know what else is.

smiley

God have mercy
Let him who has ears,hear

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Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by texaco1: 11:56pm On Jun 29, 2013
Pygru:
That was how she was jumping about grin for that other thread.
i am not siding deeper life but calling them a cult is what i am trying to prove to them that is wrong
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by flourishG(m): 11:57pm On Jun 29, 2013
texaco1:
what truth?making unguided allegations without any evidence ?prove to us all that deeperlife is a cult.
ain't u familiar with their man made doctrine?thou shall not doctrines of men.thou shall not mingle with other Christians who aren't dl.thou shall not attend social functions etc.are u new to dl?
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by flourishG(m): 11:59pm On Jun 29, 2013
texaco1:
so those members of redeem that take adeboye as their lord too , they are cultist
yes they are.did adeboye died for them n redeemed them.are u also baptized into cultism?
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by coretechng(m): 12:00am On Jun 30, 2013
Apology indeed.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Nobody: 12:00am On Jun 30, 2013
frosbel:

discipline for disobeying the traditions of MEN ?

They should leave that church and follow JESUS, deeperlife is a CULT.
it took me great pains to ignore u the last time u calle DLBC a cult. But this time around, i gotta let u know this. U're an ediot. A complete foool. U have the nerve to call a place where holiness and salvation is preached perpectually, a cult! After u'd start quoting d scrìptures. U need to get ur brains examined.

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Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by texaco1: 12:00am On Jun 30, 2013
flourishG: ain't u familiar with their man made doctrine?thou shall not doctrines of men.thou shall not mingle with other Christians who aren't dl.thou shall not attend social functions etc.are u new to dl?
dont get me wrong , i have said earlier that i find their laws too strict for my liking , but that doesnt mean it is a cult.what about cele that has some odd laws ;are they cultist too . the word cult is a very strong word , most of u calling them cultist were once members, have they come to attack u since u left them?or is there anything secret that u did when u were there? were u initiated into anything ?
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Nobody: 12:01am On Jun 30, 2013
"But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." - Matthew 15:9

"They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them." - Matthew 23:4

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Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Nobody: 12:02am On Jun 30, 2013
dirtymoney:
it took me great pains to ignore u the last time u calle DLBC a cult. But this time around, i gotta let u know this. U're an ediot. A complete foool. U have the nerve to call a place where holiness and salvation is preached perpectually, a cult! After u'd start quoting d scrìptures. U need to get ur brains examined.

I can see your holiness in action.

smh.

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Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by flourishG(m): 12:02am On Jun 30, 2013
texaco1:
i am not siding deeper life but calling them a cult is what i am trying to prove to them that is wrong
if u not siding dl what da heck are u doing covering them up for?truth is a bastard n truth says it d way it is doesn't matter who gets hurts.if they actin cult n they are called such,what yr headache?huh?
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 12:03am On Jun 30, 2013
flourishG: u must b insane by this comment.so they don't hv right to talk? Or expose d cult church?y are u covering evil?are u alright?
grin grin grin
who made you a judge
Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by obinnakenedo(m): 12:03am On Jun 30, 2013
99cent: deeper life women should use this opportunity to start dressing to please their God not some pastor.
clearly they have been scammed!!
there is no sin in wearing a earring or necklace or makeup for ur wedding for chrissake!
it was irresistable for the bride. Just like Eve and the apple. So the groom was inplicated *Adam*

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