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Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by CALLMESTAR(f): 12:32pm On Jul 09, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: that lesbians and 3some turn him on?
not that. *I am not ready to start looking for the comment*
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by mko2005: 12:32pm On Jul 09, 2013
Billionaires:

My biography includes "'Ordained Elder - Aaronic Priesthood' and '........ - Melchizedek Priesthood'". That's a story for another day under the Religious Section', you could take a concave peak on my person on my alternative monika 'Billyonaire'. I have been there where you are now in Christianism and have moved on to have true answers that Christianity could NOT answer. Let's not get religious here, but we can get spiritual if need be. Spirituality is not bound to religion. I can only but say, you are operating within your wavelength of understanding and consciousness, but make sure you keep an open mind to learn more, cos where you are is not the end of the knowledge of God and Energy.
My friend,i don't do or talk outside Christ ! I'm not righteous but the shed blood of Christ did so much for me. My prayer is if i will ever pick up any other gospel other than the seeking and saving grace of the death,burial,resurrection and ascension of our lord Jesus Christ,let me be accursed ! Let me be damned ! Christ is the only way and not one of the ways ! If HE is not the only way,then HE is none of the ways !
As for what ever you think you have concerning spirituality,if it is not about Jesus,it is FALSE and will most definitely lead to hell ! But Jesus loves you ! He cares for you and is ready to safe you. Try HIM and remain faithful until HE returns.I will continue to guard ma heart diligently ! I pray that on the last day HIS grace will qualify me and YOU into HIS kingdom !
God help us all

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Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by ALTRUTH(m): 12:33pm On Jul 09, 2013
Even Adolf Hitler was wise enough to know dat homosexuals are nt fit to live. He ordered German soldiers to execute gay ppl where ever dey were found.

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Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Billionaires: 12:35pm On Jul 09, 2013
Youngtekkey: a dog that will be lost will never listen to trumphet of the hunter u can choose the way of life u which anybody's business but u are just been adviced so that u will not rot in eternal fire so that u will not be a castout so that u will not live ur life with the great dragon and beast there is always a chance for u "NO MATTER WHAT U HAVE DONE IN THE PAST JESUS STILL LOVES U GIVE HIM A CHANCE TODAY COZ TOMOROW MAY BE TOO LATE"stay blessed
You are comical. To really embrace your stance, I have to become comical, so lets begin. I chose to go to hell (assuming there is one, though I know there is none). And I am telling you, that I am not interested in your religion cos I love Hell - Michael Jackson will be there, Tupac will be there,so many girls will be there for me to enjoy unlike the sugarcandy heaven where hallelujah is served as breakfast. How about that ?

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Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Billionaires: 12:36pm On Jul 09, 2013
m.k.o2005:

My friend,i don't do or talk outside Christ ! I'm not righteous but the shed blood of Christ did so much for me. My prayer is if i will ever pick up any other gospel other than the seeking and saving grace of the death,burial,resurrection and ascension of our lord Jesus Christ,let me be accursed ! Let me be damned ! Christ is the only way and not one of the ways ! If HE is not the only way,then HE is none of the ways !
As for what ever you think you have concerning spirituality,if it is not about Jesus,it is FALSE and will most definitely lead to hell ! But Jesus loves you ! He cares for you and is ready to safe you. Try HIM and remain faithful until HE returns.I will continue to guard ma heart diligently ! I pray that on the last day HIS grace will qualify me and YOU into HIS kingdom !
God help us all
My Oh My, this one can not be saved anymore from himself. This is extremism at its zenith.
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by CALLMESTAR(f): 12:38pm On Jul 09, 2013
ALTRUTH: Even Adolf Hitler was wise enough to know dat homosexuals are nt fit to live. He ordered German soldiers to execute gay ppl where ever dey were found.
so what about the Jews he murdered for no reason too??...please that man was just a murderer and the most wicked person to have ever walked on the surface of the earth!
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Nobody: 12:40pm On Jul 09, 2013
Below was my response.


Billionaires:

What makes you think your indulgences are sacrosanct ?

What makes you think your views are paradigms ?

Who gives you authority to god over what others should do with their se.x organs

What if I chose to 'go to hell', whats your business ?

I think you need to seriously allow people to 'go to hell' if they chose and not malign them with chauvinistic [/b]theorems that never saved Africa from disease and poverty.[/b]



Please has civilization saved the western nations from psycos, mass killings, corruption, robbery, looting, economic meltdown, cancer, aids, std, plane crashes, road accidents, poverty, unemployment (of course man people are poor and unemployed over there), etc.

Cameroonpride is against homosexualism. In fact he is calling for their complete execution.

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Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Broker23(m): 12:41pm On Jul 09, 2013
cold: The sexuality of Jesus Christ is queried.

 Was Jesus queer? We don't know. But it is a possibility that cannot be ruled out. One version of St. Mark's gospel - which is still the subject of academic dispute - alludes to Jesus having a homosexual relationship with a youth he raised from the dead.According to the US Biblical scholar, Morton Smith, of Columbia University, a fragment of manuscript he found at the Mar Saba monastery near Jerusalem in 1958, showed that the full text of St. Mark chapter 10 (between verses 34 and 35 in the standard version of the Bible) includes the passage:"And the youth, looking upon him (Jesus), loved him and beseeched that he might remain with him. And going out of the tomb, they went into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days, Jesus instructed him and, at evening, the youth came to him wearing a linen cloth over his nak3d body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God" grin.The veracity of this manuscript is hotly contested by other Biblical scholars. This comes as no surprise. The revelation of a gay Jesus would undermine some of the most fundamental tenets of orthodox Christianity, including its rampant homophobia.But even if the text is genuine, does this ambiguous, elliptical passage offer evidence of Jesus's homosexuality? It is hard to say. The precise nature of the relationship between Christ and the youth is not spelled out. Sexual relations are suggested but not explicitly stated.The Morton Smith document is, in fact, irrelevant to the vexed issue of Christ's sexual orientation. What we can say for certain is that the standard, accepted Biblical narrative gives us no information at all about Jesus's sexuality.This absence of firm information does not, of course, mean that we can take it for granted that Christ was heterosexual. Far from it! The lack of information about his erotic inclinations begs more questions than it answers.The truth is that we simply don't know whether Jesus was straight, gay, bisexual or celibate. There is certainly no evidence for the Church's unspoken presumption that he was either heterosexual or devoid of carnal desires. Since nothing in the Bible points to Christ having erotic feelings for women, or relationships with the female sex, the possibility of him being gay cannot be discounted.In the absence of any evidence - [b]let alone proof - that Jesus was heterosexual, the theological basis of Church homophobia is all the more shaky and indefensible. How can established religion dare denounce homosexuality when the founder of its faith was himself a man of mysterious, unknown sexuality who could, for all we know, have been homosexual?The Bible tells us that Jesus was born a man and therefore presumably had male sexual feelings. It would have been more or less impossible, biologically, for him not to have an element of erotic arousal - even if only having the normal male response of waking with an er3ction [/b]
don't u think ur taking this too far?
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by mko2005: 12:43pm On Jul 09, 2013
Billionaires: My Oh My, this one can not be saved anymore from himself. This is extremism at its zenith.
May i be seen as an extremist for Christ for to be drunk with the word of God is equated to having like more and more abundantly ! An extremist in Christ can not hurt himself or anyone but will always live to please his master ! Jesus never sinned and if i continue with HIM and in HIM,I wil not seen and be considered a deranged man with a problem who needs the billonaires' de-programming methodology to be normal again ! hehehehehehe !
God help us all
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Nobody: 12:44pm On Jul 09, 2013
CALLMESTAR:
not that. *I am not ready to start looking for the comment*
wink
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by mko2005: 12:44pm On Jul 09, 2013
m.k.o2005:

May i be seen as an extremist for Christ for to be drunk with the word of God is equated to having LIFE more and more abundantly ! An extremist in Christ can not hurt himself or anyone but will always live to please his master ! Jesus never sinned and if i continue with HIM and in HIM,I wil not seen and be considered a deranged man with a problem who needs the billonaires' de-programming methodology to be normal again ! hehehehehehe !
God help us all
May i be seen as an extremist for Christ for to be drunk with the word of God is equated to having LIFE more and more abundantly ! An extremist in Christ can not hurt himself or anyone but will always live to please his master ! Jesus never sinned and if i continue with HIM and in HIM,I wil not seen and be considered a deranged man with a problem who needs the billonaires' de-programming methodology to be normal again ! hehehehehehe !
God help us all
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Billionaires: 12:48pm On Jul 09, 2013
jusRadical: [b][/b]

Please has civilization saved the western nations from psycos, mass killings, corruption, robbery, looting, economic meltdown, cancer, aids, std, plane crashes, road accidents, poverty, unemployment (of course man people are poor and unemployed over there), etc.
And your point is.......
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Ifetex(m): 12:50pm On Jul 09, 2013
theozobby:
I was shocked to the bone when I was going thru some of there horrible and devilish comments
May God have Mercy on all.


even me oh! Fear donn dey catch me 4 NL
wait oh first. are all dis gay ppl on NL in Nigeria? is knwoitall a mod of which section?
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Nobody: 12:53pm On Jul 09, 2013
bllion, you seem to talk with both sides of your mouth. what's really your stance on it? since you think they are deranged , it means you have nothing against the law right?

also if they must go in prison for deranged people, which kind of therapy do you plan to use( since u sincerely believe hey are sick)? : a become a straight therapy? if yes that simply means u acknowledge being straight is the right way . if no it simply means you don't think they are sick, no?
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Nobody: 12:54pm On Jul 09, 2013
Billionaires: And your point is.......
banning/enforcing laws against homosexuality is not what makes Africa poor.

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Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Billionaires: 12:55pm On Jul 09, 2013
m.k.o2005:

May i be seen as an extremist for Christ for to be drunk with the word of God is equated to having like more and more abundantly ! An extremist in Christ can not hurt himself or anyone but will always live to please his master ! Jesus never sinned and if i continue with HIM and in HIM,I wil not seen and be considered a deranged man with a problem who needs the billonaires' de-programming methodology to be normal again ! hehehehehehe !
God help us all

My brother, forget those Asian ideologies and enjoy yourself oh. Even those Arab guys do not worship Jesus like we Africans who got converted by the Europeans on their trade routes. Drink some wine, fu/ck some pussies and enjoy your small life wey you see oh. I no dey for ' had I known it was a lie'. I need me some n.aked gurls tonite with some toys to make us happier. Heaven and hell has to wait oh, 15 minutes to my death, God will forgive, afterall he is all-merciful. (Comic Relief)

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Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Nobody: 12:57pm On Jul 09, 2013
m.k.o2005:

May i be seen as an extremist for Christ for to be drunk with the word of God is equated to having like more and more abundantly ! An extremist in Christ can not hurt himself or anyone but will always live to please his master ! Jesus never sinned and if i continue with HIM and in HIM,I wil not seen and be considered a deranged man with a problem who needs the billonaires' de-programming methodology to be normal again ! hehehehehehe !
God help us all

Thanks big time brother.

Please help me ask them how we come have hiv-aids with humans. Did it not come from their 'lovely' and 'natural' gays?
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Nobody: 1:01pm On Jul 09, 2013
PLEASE CAN'T SOMEBODY TELL ME WHY THE WESTERN NATIONS OUTLAWED POLYGAMY [/b] (I WILL NEVER SUPPORT POLYGAMY). [/b]

ISN'T POLYGAMY NATURAL? Hypocrites!
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Nobody: 1:03pm On Jul 09, 2013
Mr knowitall.:


and this God of yours that is still in Nigeria.....must be one poor..useless God to live in that dump....where he can live

in the U.S comfortably....I dont know which poverty God you are serving but ill sugget you get another one...this one is

doesn't care about you..

This guy you take things personal with GOD, the subject here is the act of being gay right or wrong? Why do you take personal argument with GOD? You came out from a woman right? Now explain why you think as a man, i should involve myself with another man? If you can give me a true answer, i will back you, but i won't back you saying awful things about almighty God..
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Nobody: 1:05pm On Jul 09, 2013
Broker23: don't u think ur taking this too far?

The guy no get sense.. You are reading what someone wrote in 1958? ODE..You believe everything you read from those useless scholars, or from the internet?
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by mko2005: 1:08pm On Jul 09, 2013
Billionaires:
My brother, forget those Asian ideologies and enjoy yourself oh. Even those Arab guys do not worship Jesus Africans who got converted by the Europeans. Drink some wine, fu/ck some pussies and enjoy your small life wey you see oh. I no dey for ' had I known it was a lie'. I need me some n.aked gurls tonite with some toys to make us happier. Heaven and hell has to wait oh, 15 minutes to my death, God will forgive, afterall he is all-merciful. (Comic Relief)
I would have laughed to this 'comic relief'of urs but see below the words of Christ :
'' I tell you that on the day of judgment, people will give an account for every worthless word they speak.''-Mathew 12:26
Any one can convert any one so long as it's the word of God that is used and it's the Holy spirit doing the conversion. As for wether there is heaven last last,what do i have to loose ? Not having s.ex. with animals or not bein gay or havin 3some like u mentioned ? I tell you that not doing all those tins are great gain to me and will forever thank the writers of the holy scripture as inspired by God !
God help us all
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Acelifted: 1:19pm On Jul 09, 2013
cold: Whilst I have personal reservations about the whole gay furore,i find it difficult to fathom why the anti-gay stance is predicated mainly on the premise of religion. Jesus never got married,walked around with 12 men,wore flowing gowns without underpants. Hmm..Ok,i'll say no more

What are you talking about? is that a sensible line of argument? were you there to peep under his gown to see if He was not wearing an undergown? Why do you heap on yourself and your generation (unborn children) coals of hot judgement for silly utterances? Be careful! Be really careful!!. This warning is not only to you but all you who think you can seat behind your system and denigrate God because you think its a liberal world. Even the Devil (your master) dares not open his mouth to denigrate God, The great I AM. He (devil) pushes you to do what he never does, even though his own judgment is sealed. You still have a chance. If you choose to continue on this part, you will be deserving what is coming to you.... beginning in few days time.
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Nobody: 1:20pm On Jul 09, 2013
dadaic:

This guy you take things personal with GOD, the subject here is the act of being gay right or wrong? Why do you take personal argument with GOD? You came out from a woman right? Now explain why you think as a man, i should involve myself with another man? If you can give me a true answer, i will back you, but i won't back you saying awful things about almighty God..


Thank you sir. Some people who are not even up to the towel satan will use to wash his hands after his operation are here talking rubbish. Mere mortals. He should go and ask De Lawerence, an american magician how he fared.
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Nobody: 1:24pm On Jul 09, 2013
Acelifted:

What are you talking about? is that a sensible line of argument? were you there to peep under his gown to see if He was not wearing an undergown? Why do you heap on yourself and your generation (unborn children) coals of hot judgement for silly utterances? Be careful! Be really careful!!. This warning is not only to you but all you who think you can seat behind your system and denigrate God because you think its a liberal world. Even the Devil (your master) dares not open his mouth to denigrate God, The great I AM. He (devil) pushes you to do what he never does, even though his own judgment is sealed. You still have a chance. If you choose to continue on this part, you will be deserving what is coming to you.... beginning in few days time.

My friend, help me tell him oo...Some people just write because they just want to say something, if Jesus walked with women, i am sure they will say something different, or even worse...You people make me laugh.....
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Nobody: 1:25pm On Jul 09, 2013
Acelifted:

What are you talking about? is that a sensible line of argument? were you there to peep under his gown to see if He was not wearing an undergown? Why do you heap on yourself and your generation (unborn children) coals of hot judgement for silly utterances? Be careful! Be really careful!!. This warning is not only to you but all you who think you can seat behind your system and denigrate God because you think its a liberal world. Even the Devil (your master) dares not open his mouth to denigrate God, The great I AM. He (devil) pushes you to do what he never does, even though his own judgment is sealed. You still have a chance. If you choose to continue on this part, you will be deserving what is coming to you.... beginning in few days time.

The funny thing about satan is that, knowing that his faith is sealed, decieves men and uses them the achieve his own ends (rebel against GOD) and at the end, he leaves them to face the dare consequences.
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Nobody: 1:43pm On Jul 09, 2013
cold: The sexuality of Jesus Christ is queried.

 Was Jesus queer? We don't know. But it is a possibility that cannot be ruled out. One version of St. Mark's gospel - which is still the subject of academic dispute - alludes to Jesus having a homosexual relationship with a youth he raised from the dead.According to the US Biblical scholar, Morton Smith, of Columbia University, a fragment of manuscript he found at the Mar Saba monastery near Jerusalem in 1958, showed that the full text of St. Mark chapter 10 (between verses 34 and 35 in the standard version of the Bible) includes the passage:"And the youth, looking upon him (Jesus), loved him and beseeched that he might remain with him. And going out of the tomb, they went into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days, Jesus instructed him and, at evening, the youth came to him wearing a linen cloth over his nak3d body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God" grin.The veracity of this manuscript is hotly contested by other Biblical scholars. This comes as no surprise. The revelation of a gay Jesus would undermine some of the most fundamental tenets of orthodox Christianity, including its rampant homophobia.But even if the text is genuine, does this ambiguous, elliptical passage offer evidence of Jesus's homosexuality? It is hard to say. The precise nature of the relationship between Christ and the youth is not spelled out. Sexual relations are suggested but not explicitly stated.The Morton Smith document is, in fact, irrelevant to the vexed issue of Christ's sexual orientation. What we can say for certain is that the standard, accepted Biblical narrative gives us no information at all about Jesus's sexuality.This absence of firm information does not, of course, mean that we can take it for granted that Christ was heterosexual. Far from it! The lack of information about his erotic inclinations begs more questions than it answers.The truth is that we simply don't know whether Jesus was straight, gay, bisexual or celibate. There is certainly no evidence for the Church's unspoken presumption that he was either heterosexual or devoid of carnal desires. Since nothing in the Bible points to Christ having erotic feelings for women, or relationships with the female sex, the possibility of him being gay cannot be discounted.In the absence of any evidence - [b]let alone proof - that Jesus was heterosexual, the theological basis of Church homophobia is all the more shaky and indefensible. How can established religion dare denounce homosexuality when the founder of its faith was himself a man of mysterious, unknown sexuality who could, for all we know, have been homosexual?The Bible tells us that Jesus was born a man and therefore presumably had male sexual feelings. It would have been more or less impossible, biologically, for him not to have an element of erotic arousal - even if only having the normal male response of waking with an er3ction [/b]s
sori bt ur such a foool.The bible rebukes it nd that stands!...stop this nonsense plzz.
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Nobody: 1:47pm On Jul 09, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: banning/enforcing laws against homosexuality is not what makes Africa poor.


There could have been no better answer than this. Thanks.
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Nobody: 1:50pm On Jul 09, 2013
jusRadical:


There could have been no better answer than this. Thanks.

What makes you think the western world is rich? Do you just think the UNITED STATES is the western world only? I SHAME FOR YOUR IQ
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Nobody: 1:53pm On Jul 09, 2013
dadaic:

What makes you think the western world is rich? Do you just think the UNITED STATES is the western world only? I SHAME FOR YOUR IQ


Please Seun should stop allowing everything to register with nairaland or make comment.
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by Nobody: 1:58pm On Jul 09, 2013
jusRadical:


Please Seun should stop allowing everything to register with nairaland or make comment.

LOL...Now you are pleading, even if there were no SEUN, there might have probably been another SEGUN doing something similar.. You just need to answer my question that's all. Some one quoted, 'banning/enforcing laws against homosexuality is not what makes Africa poor'. But it is also a part of making us a better person....
Re: Cleric Asks Jonathan To Sign Anti-gay Bill Into Law by cold(m): 2:15pm On Jul 09, 2013
dadaic:

The guy no get sense.. You are reading what someone wrote in 1958? ODE..You believe everything you read from those useless scholars, or from the internet?
Look at how shallow,parochial & hollow your reasoning is. You choose & encourage others to discountenance an incredible find barely 60 years old because it shakes the very foundations of your belief.Yet,hold on tenaciously to stories from a Jewish book of fables written over 2000 years ago!Ha!Stvpidity must have a new definition

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