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Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Royalty1(m): 2:51pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
The Most Important Prayer you could ever Pray. Please pray it with the whole of your heart. 2 Likes
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Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Namiad(m): 2:54pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Monimatic: To be born again you must"confessi just knew u were frm christ embassy..that was great..am from christ embssy too. |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by badassnigga(m): 3:02pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Redhot111: are a cow? dog! u didn't even check d trash u typed ...that explains why u follow ur fake religion or way of lyf blindly |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by maximunimpact(m): 3:13pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
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Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by maximunimpact(m): 3:16pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
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Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by maximunimpact(m): 3:20pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
The terms "born again" and "new birth" are not interchangeable: They do not refer to the same thing! Whereas "born again" applied to the Jews in the first century, who were in the old covenant but needed to be brought into the new covenant, upon the termination of the old covenant (as discussed above); the "new birth," mentioned by Peter, refers to those of Jesus' disciples who will rule with him in his heavenly kingdom. (1 Peter 1:3-5) This hope of going to heaven is something new, for it did not exist prior to Jesus time. It remained God's "sacred secret" (mystery) until the time when it began to be fulfilled, starting with the choosing of the twelve apostles, and applies only to the ones who are chosen by God, the number of which will eventually total 144,000. (Rev. 14:1, 3; Rom. 16:25,26; 1 Cor. 2:7) Even John the Baptist, the greatest "among those born of women," was not among these, nor did he know anything about this new hope reserved for them. (Matt. 11:11; 25:34-46) All of God's people are "born from water and spirit," but they do not all have the "new birth." * Footnote: Regarding the two loaves presented on the day of Pentecost, Insight on the Scriptures, Vol. 2, page 599, states: "The fact that there were two loaves of newly ripened grain that were presented to Jehovah at Pentecost indicates that more than one person would be involved in the fulfillment. It may also point to the fact that those who become spirit-begotten followers of Jesus Christ would be taken from two groups on earth: First from the natural circumcised Jews, and later from all the other nations of the world, the Gentiles." (bold mine) The second loaf presented to Jehovah at Pentecost cannot symbolize spirit-begotten Gentiles, for Gentiles were not presented to Jehovah until three and a half years later, with the baptism and anointing of Cornelius. (Acts 10:44-48) Since the two loaves were presented together, and for them to have any significance, they must also represent "two groups" who were present on that occasion together, namely the 120 anointed disciples, and those immediately joined to them, the 3,000 who were not anointed with the spirit but were also baptized and presented to Jehovah, being brought into the new covenant. This second group, or loaf, would be cared for by the ones who had been anointed for that purpose, and thus both groups were "being built up together into a place for God to inhabit by spirit." Significantly, Insight on the Scriptures, Vol. 2, (page 599, par. 1) notes, "After the loaves were waved, one of them was taken by the high priest, and the second was divided among all the officiating priests." (Luke 12:42-44; John 21:15-17; Acts 2:1-4, 37-42; Eph. 2:21,22; 1 Peter 5:2-4) Another reason why the second loaf cannot represent spirit begotten Gentiles is because of Jehovah's promise in connection with his covenant made at Mount Sinai with only natural Israelites. "'And now if YOU will strictly obey my voice and will indeed keep my covenant, then YOU will certainly become my special property out of all [other] peoples, because the whole earth belongs to me. And YOU yourselves will become to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.' These are the words that you are to say to the sons of Israel." (Exodus 19:5,6) Since the festival of Pentecost (also known as the "Festival of Harvest," "Festival of Weeks," and "the day of the first ripe fruits" ![]() "spoken by Moses to all the people" in connection with the covenant Jehovah made with them, if the second loaf presented to Jehovah on that day represented "spirit-begotten followers of Jesus Christ" taken from among Gentiles then Jehovah was telling his people from the very beginning of making his covenant that the promise he made to them, about becoming a "kingdom of priests and a holy nation," was unattainable for them, and thus he was already illustrating to them, yes, reminding them yearly on that date, that they would eventually be replaced by people of the nations. (Ex. 23:16; 34:22; Num. 28:26; Heb. 9:19,20) That would render all his future appeals to his people to return to him, and his promises to them, meaningless, even hypocritical, for he had already determined to reject them from the beginning, that is, if the second loaf indeed pictured anointed Gentiles. (2 Chr. 36:15; Jer. 44:4,5) But Jehovah is not the kind of God who makes false promises, as Insight on the Scriptures, Vol. 1, page 1138, assures us: "Jehovah God is the Source of true hope and the One able to fulfill all his promises and the hopes of those trusting in him. It is through his undeserved kindness that he has given mankind “comfort and good hope.” (2Th 2:16) He has been the hope of righteous men in all ages. He was called “the hope of Israel” and “the hope of [Israel’s] forefathers” (Jer 14:8; 17:13; 50:7), and many are the expressions of hope, trust, and confidence in him in the Hebrew Scriptures. In his loving-kindness toward his people, even when they were going into exile for disobedience to him, he said to them: “I myself well know the thoughts that I am thinking toward you, . . . thoughts of peace, and not of calamity, to give you a future and a hope.” (Jer 29:11) Jehovah’s promise kept alive the faith and hope of faithful Israelites during the Babylonian exile; it greatly strengthened men such as Ezekiel and Daniel, for Jehovah had said: “There exists a hope for your future, . . . and the sons will certainly return to their own territory.” (Jer 31:17) That hope came to fruition when a faithful Jewish remnant returned in 537 B.C.E. to rebuild Jerusalem and its temple.—Ezra 1:1-6." |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by maximunimpact(m): 3:23pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
The terms "born again" and "new birth" are not interchangeable: They do not refer to the same thing! Whereas "born again" applied to the Jews in the first century, who were in the old covenant but needed to be brought into the new covenant, upon the termination of the old covenant (as discussed above); the "new birth," mentioned by Peter, refers to those of Jesus' disciples who will rule with him in his heavenly kingdom. (1 Peter 1:3-5) This hope of going to heaven is something new, for it did not exist prior to Jesus time. It remained God's "sacred secret" (mystery) until the time when it began to be fulfilled, starting with the choosing of the twelve apostles, and applies only to the ones who are chosen by God, the number of which will eventually total 144,000. (Rev. 14:1, 3; Rom. 16:25,26; 1 Cor. 2:7) Even John the Baptist, the greatest "among those born of women," was not among these, nor did he know anything about this new hope reserved for them. (Matt. 11:11; 25:34-46) All of God's people are "born from water and spirit," but they do not all have the "new birth." * Footnote: Regarding the two loaves presented on the day of Pentecost, Insight on the Scriptures, Vol. 2, page 599, states: "The fact that there were two loaves of newly ripened grain that were presented to Jehovah at Pentecost indicates that more than one person would be involved in the fulfillment. It may also point to the fact that those who become spirit-begotten followers of Jesus Christ would be taken from two groups on earth: First from the natural circumcised Jews, and later from all the other nations of the world, the Gentiles." (bold mine) The second loaf presented to Jehovah at Pentecost cannot symbolize spirit-begotten Gentiles, for Gentiles were not presented to Jehovah until three and a half years later, with the baptism and anointing of Cornelius. (Acts 10:44-48) Since the two loaves were presented together, and for them to have any significance, they must also represent "two groups" who were present on that occasion together, namely the 120 anointed disciples, and those immediately joined to them, the 3,000 who were not anointed with the spirit but were also baptized and presented to Jehovah, being brought into the new covenant. This second group, or loaf, would be cared for by the ones who had been anointed for that purpose, and thus both groups were "being built up together into a place for God to inhabit by spirit." Significantly, Insight on the Scriptures, Vol. 2, (page 599, par. 1) notes, "After the loaves were waved, one of them was taken by the high priest, and the second was divided among all the officiating priests." (Luke 12:42-44; John 21:15-17; Acts 2:1-4, 37-42; Eph. 2:21,22; 1 Peter 5:2-4) Another reason why the second loaf cannot represent spirit begotten Gentiles is because of Jehovah's promise in connection with his covenant made at Mount Sinai with only natural Israelites. "'And now if YOU will strictly obey my voice and will indeed keep my covenant, then YOU will certainly become my special property out of all [other] peoples, because the whole earth belongs to me. And YOU yourselves will become to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.' These are the words that you are to say to the sons of Israel." (Exodus 19:5,6) Since the festival of Pentecost (also known as the "Festival of Harvest," "Festival of Weeks," and "the day of the first ripe fruits" ![]() "spoken by Moses to all the people" in connection with the covenant Jehovah made with them, if the second loaf presented to Jehovah on that day represented "spirit-begotten followers of Jesus Christ" taken from among Gentiles then Jehovah was telling his people from the very beginning of making his covenant that the promise he made to them, about becoming a "kingdom of priests and a holy nation," was unattainable for them, and thus he was already illustrating to them, yes, reminding them yearly on that date, that they would eventually be replaced by people of the nations. (Ex. 23:16; 34:22; Num. 28:26; Heb. 9:19,20) That would render all his future appeals to his people to return to him, and his promises to them, meaningless, even hypocritical, for he had already determined to reject them from the beginning, that is, if the second loaf indeed pictured anointed Gentiles. (2 Chr. 36:15; Jer. 44:4,5) But Jehovah is not the kind of God who makes false promises, as Insight on the Scriptures, Vol. 1, page 1138, assures us: "Jehovah God is the Source of true hope and the One able to fulfill all his promises and the hopes of those trusting in him. It is through his undeserved kindness that he has given mankind “comfort and good hope.” (2Th 2:16) He has been the hope of righteous men in all ages. He was called “the hope of Israel” and “the hope of [Israel’s] forefathers” (Jer 14:8; 17:13; 50:7), and many are the expressions of hope, trust, and confidence in him in the Hebrew Scriptures. In his loving-kindness toward his people, even when they were going into exile for disobedience to him, he said to them: “I myself well know the thoughts that I am thinking toward you, . . . thoughts of peace, and not of calamity, to give you a future and a hope.” (Jer 29:11) Jehovah’s promise kept alive the faith and hope of faithful Israelites during the Babylonian exile; it greatly strengthened men such as Ezekiel and Daniel, for Jehovah had said: “There exists a hope for your future, . . . and the sons will certainly return to their own territory.” (Jer 31:17) That hope came to fruition when a faithful Jewish remnant returned in 537 B.C.E. to rebuild Jerusalem and its temple.—Ezra 1:1-6." |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Anniettieufia(m): 3:40pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Dear Maximumimpact, Thank you for the sermon. You asked us a question based on being born again, But you divert your explanations to resurrection, we would have had more time and understanding if you had kept the Resurrection topic 4 another day. Anyway, Being born again has to do with *the acknowledgment of you seeing yourself as a sinner,which is the Pregnancy stage, *then accepting Jesus Christ as your "personal Lord & Saviour" which is your point of conception just as a new Creature, *You become join heir with Him, Jesus, sharing God as the Father. *then You start growing in the word of God, which is your spiritual food. It is important to note that children are not forced to get born again, because it required a personal decision, You are the One joining with Jesus to give Birth to the new image which you become thereafter. IS THAT NOT A MYSTERY ? We must respect God. |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Bonapart(m): 4:06pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Completely dead to sin as a little born baby. Old tins shall pass away n behold all tins become new |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Sunglow: 4:28pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
yomalex: that which is born of the flesh is flesh and that which is born of the spirit is spirit.Yes,for man is a spirit being he lives in a body and has a soul.d real YOU IS UR SPIRIT.dats y wen some1 dies his body which is physical is buried in sand but his spirit moves over 2 d spirit world |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Sunglow: 4:37pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
[quote author=Lilnizzy]Xtain and dia wahala sha.... Mtshwwww born afresh ni....OJU tOti ri born again to n wo MOJO lolz Badolee on point jooorr.[/quote].Life is short,eternity is forever,man was created to live 4 ever.so chose ye dis day were u wil spend eternity,bliss or condematn?its choice so chose WISELY |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by alexleo(m): 4:41pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
frosbel: To understand what Born again means in the context of Jesus's precious words, we have to understand what Gospel Jesus preached. Thanks and God bless you. |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by dioman: 6:36pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Once you forsake the law of moses and embrace the finish work of Jesus on the cross. Then, u live by grace through faith. |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Omadachi(m): 6:38pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
It means taking the following steps; 1.Acknowledging your sins 2.Confessing them 3.Forsaking your sins 4.Believe in your heart you've been forgiven and accept Jesus into your heart as personal Lord and saviour. |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by CarCam: 6:41pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
"Born Again" per se was never preached by Jesus rather Jesus, with passion in capital p, was more into explaining and teaching all about the Kingdom of God. As Jesus was proclaiming the Kingdom with conviction He was explaining the Good News or Good Spell of the Kingdom too As He was preaching the Kingdom with veracity He was teaching the principle(s) and fundamental truth of the Kingdom with signs and wonders There are only 2 incidents or occurrences of "Born Again" in the entire bible, - Jesus' and Peter's well maybe 3 occurrences albeit two of the three have the same timeline There is no record of Jesus proclaiming or teaching "Born Again" in public The point I am making, is that Jesus never delivered a "Born Again" sermon to an assembled group of people He did not preach or address a large congregation about or over "Born Again". The "Born Again" teaching came about sometime in the middle of the night with only one private audience It was a private tuition or instruction to one person; Nicodemus, away from public glare The teaching, though then an isolated incident, is relevant and beneficial to all The "Born Again" adjective used by modern Christians actually spawned off Nicodemus' meeting with Jesus and Peter's; 1 Peter 1:23. Nicodemus was a Pharisee and a member of the Sanhedrin Knowing what a Sanhedrin is or means, makes room to understand Nicodemus' unfortunate situation and appreciate why Nicodemus with his conscience and dilemma came to Jesus to confirm or refute the origin of Jesus' teachings and miracles. It was at this juncture that Jesus said to Nicodemus "Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." Jesus taught Nicodemus that except he, Nicodemus, is "Born Again" born of the word of God - by a seed free of corruption or immorality he Nicodemus will not see or appreciate "the manifestations of the Kingdom of God" and also he, Nicodemus would not believe in the teachings of the Kingdom and the miracles showing and demonstrating the power of God In short, if Nicodemus is not "Born Again" or is born of a corruptible seed, he, Nicodemus, would be in denial, of the manifestation of the Kingdom and experience of the power of God and he'll be BLIND like others, and thinking or saying "No wonder Jesus can cast out demons. He gets his power from Satan, the prince of demons." "Jesus casts out demons through Beelzebub the chief of the demons" |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Hero10001: 6:45pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Are you a learner?? You don't read the bible with your eyes closed.. |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by piagetskinner(m): 7:09pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
::Andrew:::SECONDED JARE |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by perrol(m): 7:11pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
people of God have said it well. been born again is just about turning back totally from all sinful and wicked ways of ours and this can be done by first accepting that once is a sinner , confess ur sin and call jesus christ into ur life and now you will begin to walk in a christlike manner according to the bible. |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by piagetskinner(m): 7:30pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Y should we make lengthy notes on an issue that requires none...being born again simply means turning away from ur past life,embracing christ(confessing ur sins-the ugly life lived in the past, accepting him as ur lord and saviour) ..and never going bak to it(past)..."if any man be in christ he is a new creature,old things are pasd away;behold al things hav become new" 2 corinthians 5:17...GOD BLES YA'll |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by plasgidy: 7:39pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
to be born again simply means repenting from your sin and put away your old life and up hold a decent new life in christ jesus letrraly mean you should not kill lie or take babys in marriage like oga yerima and other bad bad things you formaly do. |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Veronfemzy: 8:00pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
to be born again means to be given a new spirit by accepting Jesus as your personal Lord and savior.man is a spirit being we were born into sin naturaly by birth that is why we need a new spirit not that we will be a baby again no it is a new spirit of God inside us.romans 12v1-2 |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Nobody: 10:07pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
RCH The New Birth—What Is Its Purpose? MANY believe that one needs to be born again to receive eternal salvation. Note, though, what Jesus himself said about the purpose of the new birth. He stated: “Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3 ) Thus, one needs to be born again in order to enter into God’s Kingdom, not in order to receive salvation. ‘But,’ some may say, ‘are not these two expressions—entering the Kingdom and receiving salvation—referring to the same reward?’ No, they are not. To understand the difference, let us consider first the meaning of the expression “kingdom of God.” A kingdom is a form of government. So, then, the expression “kingdom of God” means “government of God.” The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ, the “son of man,” is the King of God’s Kingdom and that Christ has fellow rulers. (Daniel 7:1, 13, 14; Matthew 26:63, 64 ) Furthermore, a vision given to the apostle John disclosed that Christ’s fellow rulers are individuals chosen “out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation” and will “rule as kings over the earth.” ( Revelation 5:9, 10; 20:6 ) God’s Word further reveals that those who will rule as kings form a “little flock” of 144,000 individuals “who have been bought from the earth.”— Luke 12:32; Revelation 14:1, 3. Where is the seat of God’s Kingdom? “The kingdom of God” is also called “the kingdom of the heavens,” which shows that Jesus and his fellow kings rule from heaven. (Luke 8:10; Matthew 13:11 ) Thus, God’s Kingdom is a heavenly government made up of Jesus Christ and a group of fellow rulers chosen from among mankind. What, then, did Jesus mean when he stated that one must be born again to “enter into the kingdom of God”? He meant that one needs to be born again in order to become a ruler with Christ in heaven. Simply put, the purpose of the new birth is to prepare a limited group of humans for heavenly rulership. Thus far, we have seen that the new birth is of great importance, is initiated by God, and is preparing a group of humans for rulership in heaven. But how does the new birth actually take place? www.jw.org |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Nobody: 10:08pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
RCH The New Birth—What Is Its Purpose? MANY believe that one needs to be born again to receive eternal salvation. Note, though, what Jesus himself said about the purpose of the new birth. He stated: “Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3 ) Thus, one needs to be born again in order to enter into God’s Kingdom, not in order to receive salvation. ‘But,’ some may say, ‘are not these two expressions—entering the Kingdom and receiving salvation—referring to the same reward?’ No, they are not. To understand the difference, let us consider first the meaning of the expression “kingdom of God.” A kingdom is a form of government. So, then, the expression “kingdom of God” means “government of God.” The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ, the “son of man,” is the King of God’s Kingdom and that Christ has fellow rulers. (Daniel 7:1, 13, 14; Matthew 26:63, 64 ) Furthermore, a vision given to the apostle John disclosed that Christ’s fellow rulers are individuals chosen “out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation” and will “rule as kings over the earth.” ( Revelation 5:9, 10; 20:6 ) God’s Word further reveals that those who will rule as kings form a “little flock” of 144,000 individuals “who have been bought from the earth.”— Luke 12:32; Revelation 14:1, 3. Where is the seat of God’s Kingdom? “The kingdom of God” is also called “the kingdom of the heavens,” which shows that Jesus and his fellow kings rule from heaven. (Luke 8:10; Matthew 13:11 ) Thus, God’s Kingdom is a heavenly government made up of Jesus Christ and a group of fellow rulers chosen from among mankind. What, then, did Jesus mean when he stated that one must be born again to “enter into the kingdom of God”? He meant that one needs to be born again in order to become a ruler with Christ in heaven. Simply put, the purpose of the new birth is to prepare a limited group of humans for heavenly rulership. Thus far, we have seen that the new birth is of great importance, is initiated by God, and is preparing a group of humans for rulership in heaven. But how does the new birth actually take place? www.jw.org |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by amor4ce(m): 10:22pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
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Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Amudeneogu: 10:24pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Born again means to totally abstrain from sin including coruption, fruds steling, kidnapping,etc |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by victorv12(m): 10:43pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Jesus Christ was high when he said that. Probarbly, he was santifying the atmosphere with some reefer or weed when that inspiration of been reborn came upon him. |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by agho22(m): 10:51pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Simply put, u hv to accept jesus christ as ur saviour and redemer then b baptized by immansion 4 the remmision of sins..which make u die with christ as u re soaked in water n resurrect with him as u re been brought out which makes u a new creature.... |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Stpirate(m): 12:07am On Jul 22, 2013 |
curfew: the bible explains itself, but the wise men of this world go to and fro looking for knowledge, deceiving and being deceived. here is the meaning of being born again:. You Are Right But Very Wrong About The Pentecostal. If You Do Not Confess Your Sin And Accept Christ, Then How Do You Think God Will Give You A New Heart And Spirit Whilst Been Unreconciled. Remember Sin Is Not Really The Bad Stuff People Do -But It Is Not Believing In Christ. |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by george1986: 12:16am On Jul 22, 2013 |
Jesus Christ kept making the word of God and God's Scriptures easier, which I don't think God will send anoda messiah to come and explain again. I agree with a lot of serious people posts. From my opnion, God our Creator sents his Son, picture it your Father who practical brought you in this world and you are fully aware of what really going on and your purpose, sent you to tell Some people that they cannot come inside his house "physical" unless their really really really x 100 we too see him. That a lot of really from your heart, I guess that our ticket. |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by steveec122(m): 1:08am On Jul 22, 2013 |
Wise yoruba Muslim, you are approaching the light of God. May the Almighty God Shine his light on your path to walk on the truth which he gave the world as the only mediator and sacrifice, who resurrected to reconcile man to God. I pray Jesus to meet you as he had did to many! bolayei: To be born again means total submission to your creator.., it has nothing to do with being a christian as not every christian is born again...It simply means worship God and to turn a new leaf. If one has to be baptised with water and the holy spirit to see the kingdom of God,does it mean Abraham,Moses,David,Solomon and the prophets before John the baptist will not see heaven as they were not baptised by water? But instead these prophets were born again in the sense that there submitted themselves to one true God and stayed away from sin by loving their neighbours as themselves. Even a true muslim is born again as he believes in Jesus christ of which without believing in Jesus he can't be muslim. |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by lagcity(m): 5:14am On Jul 22, 2013 |
Jesus didn't say a lot of the things ppl say he said, just ppl making stuff up. ![]() |
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by lagcity(m): 5:17am On Jul 22, 2013 |
sounds like something one would say after smoking 3 bags of mushrooms. go Jesus!! it's your birthday!! we gonna smoke that ish like it's your birthday! ![]() ![]() i'm gonna get banned for this. fvck! |
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