honeric01:

They appeared from where?

honeric01:
I hope you know there are level of sins?

honeric01:
Ever heard of sins against the holy spirit? and do you know what the bible says about such sins?

honeric01:
Cutting off my hand is a sin against me and also against God, if you come to me to ask for forgiveness and i refuse to forgive you and truly in your heart you sought for that forgiveness, you go to God and you're forgiven by God, my not forgiving you won't stop you from making heaven if you end up dying in Christ, if i die without forgiving you, i'm likely to make hell because my own sins can only be forgiven when i forgive others.

The Pope's Twitter account is @Pontifex and has over 2,600,000 followers, while its Spanish version is @Pontifex_es has nearly three million followers worldwide.

http://www.latinospost.com/articles/23964/20130719/pope-francis-forgive-twitter-followers-sins-online.htm

Youngzedd:

NA SOOOOOOOOOOH WE NO SEND THEM (HATERS) I WILL TELL OUR PARISH PRIEST TO UPGRADE TO SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE AT TIMES GOING TO THE CHURCH AND SITTING TILL IT'S YOUR TURN IS BORING. WITH THIS I CAN CONFESS THROUGH FACEBOOK, TWITTER OR NAIRALAND.


YESSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

WE ARE IMPROVING.........

jahlove4jah: For sins to be forgiven by God, the sinner need more than confession, if needs to turn around from his sinful course proverbs 28: 13 .

Iceslizer:


I thought the Pope was infallible

lacum: but why are human beings like this? pls nairalanders, d headline is misleading. this must have been written by a non catholic to discrdit d church. indulgence does not mean forgiveness of sin but d forgivenes of d punishment due to sin. confession cannot be done online and will never be. pls read d article carefully and u will notice where it was said dat people will receive a plenary indulgence only when they follow d peogramme prayerfully and must have confessed their since to a priest. tks

italo:

"He who lives and believes in me will NEVER die..."--John 11:26

The same verse goes on to ask:

"Do you believe this?"

I'll be curious to know your answer.

I thought you wanted to stay on the topic of forgiveness.

italo:

I dont know. Do you?

italo:

Yes.



That they will not be forgiven, either in this world or in the next. Hmm...this would mean that there are sins that can be forgiven in the next world. Not so? So is it at the final judgement that these sins will be forgiven...or after the final judgement?

italo:

You are saying that I will go to heaven with sins that have been retained?

honeric01:

If the sin is directly to God, a man can't forgive sins committed against God.


Same to you.

Ubenedictus: sorry my dear,
the bible tells me Jesus granted the power to forgive sins in his name. Jesus gave them his own ministry. Listen to what he said: "peace be with you, as the father sends me so i send you...recieve the holyspirit. Whose sins you forgiven them and whose sins you retain are retained".
Are you telling me that Jesus was sending them with the holyspirit not to forgive sins but to forgive faults?
Please read your bible again.

italo:

APOSTLES!

honeric01:

Going back that passage, who then were given the power to forgive and retain sins? one person? the 12? all 70 disciples or everyone?

if humans can forgive and retain sins, why do we still need God to forgive our sins and what's the essence of the great judgement day for both the righteous and the wicked?

Ubenedictus: he breathed on those in that room.
Your last question sounds like "if we have Jesus why do we need others to pray for us?" it is simple, christ has allowed us, each as the spirit gives, to share in his ministry as king, prophet and king. That is why Jesus could tell those in that room, what sins u forgive are forgiven, he made them partakers of his ministry.

honeric01:

A human being like yourself can't stop you from making heaven whether they forgive you or not as long as God's forgiven you.

italo:

Except when it is actually God forgiving or retaining sins through the apostle or priest or Church. Then, when your sins are forgiven/retained here on earth, they are forgiven/retained in heaven(John 20:22,23).

honeric01:

Were Paul, Timothy and other post-Jesus death included?

King James used DISCIPLES, not APOSTLE.

italo:

Firstly, I do not regard King James version as a faithful interpretation of God's word. I see it as an adulteration. But that is another matter.

Secondly, Apostles are disciples, but not all disciples are Apostles. The Apostles were Jesus' closest disciples, His inner circle (Mark 3:13-14; Luke 6:12-13 for instance) and thus received the entirety of Christ's teaching. Even more, apostleship is an office of the Church established by Christ; whereas discipleship is a belief/lifestyle.

Paul was made an apostle by Christ while Timothy and the present day priests and bishops are successors of the apostles. So they also receive these priestly faculties by laying of hands.

Oh, so Jesus gave some of his disciples half-gospel and some full gospel, yet he commanded them all to go into the word to preach the gospel? wetin i no go hear

Paul was made Apostle by Christ where? Timothy made a priest by who and where? LOL. i don tire. i thought every christian is suppose to represent Christ, so it means some should be more christian than others, yet we are all to be judge in the same manner at the last day?

honeric01:

No interpretation is to be placed upon a difficult and obscure passage (such as this one) that would place it in direct conflict with numerous other clear texts.

honeric01:
The Greek tenses of John 20:23 make it clear that the apostles were authorized only to announce the terms of forgiveness, and that upon the basis of God’s previous appointment. Literally, the text suggests: “Those whose sins you forgive, have already been forgiven; those whose sins you do not forgive, have not already been forgiven.”

honeric01:
In other words, the apostles (and others since that time) were only authorized to declare forgiveness consistent with what the Lord had already determined.

honeric01:

Oh, so king james is a diluted bible? GHM

honeric01:
Oh, so Jesus gave some of his disciples half-gospel and some full gospel, yet he commanded them all to go into the word to preach the gospel? wetin i no go hear

Paul was made Apostle by Christ where? Timothy made a priest by who and where? LOL. i don tire. i thought every christian is suppose to represent Christ, so it means some should be more christian than others, yet we are all to be judge in the same manner at the last day?

italo:

Do you seriously want to discuss KJV here and now? I think not.




Awww! He doesnt even know that the apostles and leaders of the church had a special teaching and priestly office.

How can I help you? The deficiency is acute.

Please read these passages to see that and also to see how the apostles appointed more priests.

1 Cor 4:1,Acts 13:3, 14:22, 1:24-26, and Titus 1:5

honeric01:

A human being like yourself can't stop you from making heaven whether they forgive you or not as long as God's forgiven you.

honeric01: ^^^

Your questions to me are irrelevant with the responses you gave to some of my questions...