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Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by redsun(m): 5:25pm On Jul 25, 2013
Korokoro nazism in lagos right before your eyes.It is a reminisce of the time the nazis started ostracizing the disable from the views of the society,then followed by the industrious jews,gipsies and blacks.Just to to create a perfect race,but in this case,a tribe.

Is nigeria still a country?Who bears the burden of destitution in that country?

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Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by sexkilzaphull: 5:26pm On Jul 25, 2013
ACM10:

cool

You are on point. My Yoruba friend in Enugu drives jeep while living in a one room apartment. He has never harboured the thought of buying land in Enugu, even though he has the financial shoulder. Kept his family in Lagos while he flirts here. As a matter of fact, he can pack all his property to west at a moment notice. I don't know why Igbos buy lands and acquires properties in a distant hostile places.

Why will he do that? Buy a land in Enugu where he will be cheated, sold overpriced land at 1000% the original cost? Be discriminated openly? Well, tell him I say he should not buy any land at all! We have land, only Oyo State is about the size of the entire SE.

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Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by redsun(m): 5:29pm On Jul 25, 2013
People should live wherever that is suitable to them in their and can only be restricted if they are criminals like tinubu.

If they choose to live homeless in lagos,it is there own peril,as long as they are not committing crime,they are free to roam.

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Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Onlytruth(m): 5:54pm On Jul 25, 2013
viewlekan:

Ema wo Aridin yi. You a strategic thinker? You guys got jokes. I think you should go read all your posts on this thread again before you come here and chat nonsense. You call Fashola a coward because he sent nuisances back to ONISHA. I dont think you have got the memo yet mate, this will be an ongoing monthly exercise. Lagos State is not a CHARITY organisation, we have infrastructures to build and problems to address. Before you continue pointing the accusing fingers, how does your own state and Nnewi in particular deal with nuisances from other states? i guess you will say you have a 5 star accommodation for them.

Anyway new order in Lagos now and the earlier you get used to it the better for your hypertension problem.

@Second bolded: Your choice of words gives you out! cheesy Let see who will die of hypertension first.

@First bolded, WE BUILD SHELTERS FOR THEM, something you are not civilized enough or COURAGEOUS enough to understand. cool
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by AustineE1: 8:38pm On Jul 25, 2013
....I have yorubas as friends but most are honest enough to tell me that the problem with their people is that they are very lazy,they depend on hand-outs,government patronage,area-boyism(alaye culture),motor-park touts,juju culture and so on!That the reason the hate they igbos is because they see the igbos as being over ambitious and almost always likely to surpass them in any field of endeavour.Then we took a cursory look at the highbrow-areas of lagos and found out that most occupants are nt yorubas and are mainly non yorubas,who are mostly igbos.My yoruba friend then said to me,'how do you expect my people to be happy in this situation',and as you move towards the ghettos,you begin to notice very high population of yorubas,who are either 30 or more in a compound.its natural for people in this condition to hate the more affluent igbos,as its also obtainable in some other parts of the world...every honest yoruba man can attest to this fact,without necessarily being SLIPPERY as its common with their culture.

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Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by AustineE1: 8:42pm On Jul 25, 2013
Austine.E:
....I have yorubas as friends but most are honest enough to tell me that the problem with their people is that they are very lazy,they depend on hand-outs,government patronage,area-boyism(alaye culture),motor-park touts,juju culture and so on!That the reason the hate they igbos is because they see the igbos as being over ambitious and almost always likely to surpass them in any field of endeavour.Then we took a cursory look at the highbrow-areas of lagos and found out that most occupants are nt yorubas and are mainly non yorubas,who are mostly igbos.My yoruba friend then said to me,'how do you expect my people to be happy in this situation',and as you move towards the ghettos,you begin to notice very high population of yorubas,who are either 30 or more in a compound.its natural for people in this condition to hate the more affluent igbos,as its also obtainable in some other parts of the world...every honest yoruba man can attest to this fact,without necessarily being SLIPPERY as its common with their culture.
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Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Nobody: 9:16pm On Jul 25, 2013
This issue has been discussed before here on Nairaland. The ABC of Lagos's Relocation Policy.


The Process

1)The environmental laws of Lagos State (laws against street trading, begging, etc) have been in place at least since the 1970s (probably earlier). They've been reviewed quite a number of times (Akhigbe, Rasaki, Tinubu).

2) The process was fully established by the Tinubu Administration.

3) Beggars, street traders, destitutes, area boys, psychotics, etc are arrested by the Task Force on Environmental Offences.

4) They are given a choice: (a) go to prison (b) go to rehabilitation centre (c) return to your state of origin.

A) The law stipulates punishment for those who commit these offences. They include prison term, fine, forfeiture of goods.

B) Rehabilitation centres were set up (the most famous/infamous was at Ita-Oko Island). At the centres the inmates are sorted. They are tested for drugs. Those who are drug addicts are detoxified. Those who have mental illnesses are sent to the asylum. The inmates (apart from the lunatics) are then taught skills (skills acquisition centre) so that they'll be able to earn a living. When they complete the course, they are given a loan with which they will start a business and made to sign an undertaking that they will not return to the streets.

C) Return: Those who choose to return are transported to their state of origin. The state government is usually informed ahead of time (although I know of 3 instances in which their state governments claimed that they were not informed) so that they can make arrangements to cater for the people. Most of the people who have chosen to return are from the northern part of the country (note: they chose to return).
https://www.nairaland.com/1058435/lagos-deports-anambra-refugees/1
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Nobody: 9:18pm On Jul 25, 2013
Press Releases



Feb 1, 2005 - LASG Completes N110 Million Ita-Oko Rehabilitation Centre

As part of efforts to offer comprehensive rehabilitation for social miscreants and youths in the state, the Lagos State Government has completed works on the Rehabilitation and Skills Acquisition Centre located at Tekunle Island (Ita Oko) near Ise along the Lekki Peninsula.


The 4200 square metre centre, has facilities for training residents in fabrication, carpentry weaving, an agriculture component (involving snailry, poultry and fish production), detoxification centre, clinic, and residence for 200 along with a staff quarter and helipad.


Lagos State Governor, Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu who along with his cabinet visited the centre yesterday noted that by the second quarter of the year it would have become operational once the new tools had been fully installed.


He said the pilot phase of the rehabilitation programme will exclude females and will be based on offering the youths a n opportunity for change.


Sounding a note of warning that government's gesture if shunned by "area boys" will lead to dire consequences, Asiwaju Tinubu declared "anyone who refuses this good gesture and our goodwill to offer him/her a new life must be ready to leave Lagos".


According to him, the six months period of residence will not only lead to a complete rehabilitation but also lead to the internationally recognized trade test certificate.


The Governor also said the administration had envisioned a two pronged plan for rehabilitation after graduation either to become self-employed with a financial bank or employable.


He further said his administration plans to have other centres at appropriate areas in the state adding that government will continue to dialogue with miscreants and offer them the goodwill to change.


In a report presented by the Commissioner for Works, Engr. Rauf Aregbesola said about N110 million had been expended by the government in both phases of the rehabilitation of the centre.


According to him, the centre had been established as a slave post but was rehabilitated as a detention camp by the military government in 1985 with such facilities as 12 wooden dormitories, dwarf walls, steel poles and sand screeded floor.


While also stating that the project will be fully delivered by mid-March, Aregbesola urged that the necessary deployments by the Ministry of Youths, Sports and Social Development should be concluded.


Earlier while conducting the Executive Council round the agriculture component Dr. Jide Basorun, Director of Agric. Services disclosed that the facilities have capacity to sustain the centre through the production offish, poultry products and snailry.


According to him with a 1000 layer bird poultry, 2000 fish capacity aquaculture and 1000 capacity snailry, the centre can not only expand but has the yield to make the centre self sustaining.
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Nobody: 9:19pm On Jul 25, 2013
The beggars' opera in Lagos

IT is difficult to believe the statement allegedly made by the Special Adviser on Youth, Sports and Social Development, Dolapo Badru, to the effect that there is a law in Lagos state which makes the giving of alms to beggars anywhere in the state, an offence punishable by two years imprisonment without an option of fine.

He said: "Lagos state frowns on giving alms to beggars. It is punishable under the law and you can get up to two years imprisonment for giving money to beggars. We have places where such money can be put to good use. The government is committed to best practices in social care." The places under reference we are told are "churches, mosques, registered orphanages, motherless babies homes or social welfare institutions." The law and the determination to enforce it, is obviously an expression of government's frustration with the growing population of beggars in Lagos.

In the past few years, successive administrations in the state have adopted a number of measures to check the menace of beggars including the establishment of rehabilitation and vocational centres (to provide shelter and skills acquisition opportunities for the destitute), the deportation of beggars from other states of Nigeria to their states of origin, and the demonisation of begging as a way of life. But none of these measures has worked. Lagos is perhaps the only state and city in Nigeria whose population increases on a daily basis in an exponential manner. There is hardly any Nigerian that does not have a relation, close or distant in Lagos, and there is arguably no community in Nigeria that does not have some of its people in parts of Lagos including beggars!

Beggars flock to the city every day, and like others, they have no intention of leaving. Even when they are arrested by the state authorities and shipped back to their states of origin, they still manage to return. Lagos in the popular imagination is the Nigerian city where anyone and everyone can make a quick buck. Since 2007, the Fashola administration has embarked on a robust urban renewal programme. Lagos is now a much cleaner city, with its parks and gardens and with tax payers' money being put to work in many ways. The position of the Lagos state government it seems is that beggars constitute a nuisance, many of them are part-time criminals, and if they would not relocate to vocational centres, they might as well face the wrath of the state government. Having failed to convince or intimidate them, however, the state authorities are now warning all persons to desist from giving them alms. I really do not see how the Lagos state government can win that battle. In the past year, the state reportedly "deported" over 3, 000 beggars from Lagos. NEXT Newspaper reports that out of these, Sokoto State had the highest number of 196 beggars, Oyo State (83), Kano (75), Osun (67), Ekiti (21), Ondo (7), and from other countries- Niger (12), Chad (2) and Cote d'Ivoire (1). The state government should redirect its energies to more purposeful engagements.

There are too many contradictions in its chosen path. One, it makes no sense to "deport" a Nigerian from any part of Nigeria to another, whether that person is destitute, able or not. The Constitution guarantees the freedom of movement, and that right extends to beggars. Yes, beggars wander from one location to another, transporting their nuisance across the city, but wandering is not an offence. The law prescribing a two-year jail term for alms-givers, if indeed it exists, is ludicrous. In a country where those who burn down houses, kill in the name of religion, molestation women, kidnap children, and sabotage the state are walking free, in a society where those who loot the treasury collect national honours and chieftaincy titles, it is those who give alms to the poor that we seek to send to jail for two years without an option of fine? That law will be difficult to enforce. How do you identify a beggar? Do beggars wear uniforms, or do they carry identification badges? The Lagos state authorities should avoid the kind of human rights crisis that occurred when a directive was issued that indecently dressed women should be arrested: many housewives, accused of exposing too much flesh ended up in police cells, resulting in public outrage. With regard to beggars and the destitute, the enforcement agents could end up arresting and molesting physically challenged persons who are already badly treated by the Nigerian state, and that will be most unfair, for it is not every physically challenged person that is a beggar.

And can a man be punished for spending his hard-earned money the way he likes? I earnestly await the day when anyone in Lagos will be sent to jail for giving alms to beggars! To give teeth to the law could cause a social uproar for it runs contrary to the people's religious and cultural beliefs. The Lagos state Government could be accused of an assault on the people's faith and belief systems. The two major religions Christianity and Islam encourage their adherents to give alms, to help the poor and the needy in society. This is a sacred obligation in both religions, and that is why the most popular haunts for beggars are places of religious worship. So established is the culture of begging, that in Lagos, there are at least two major beggars' colonies: one in Ebute Meta/Oyingbo, the other in Agege.

But the bigger issue is how the explosion in the population of beggars in Lagos and elsewhere in the country, is a function of the economic dispossession in the land and the high rate of unemployment. In Nigeria, beggary has become a way of life. It is one of the easiest occupations in the land. In part because of the religious belief that beggars should be assisted, it has become one of such occupations where investment is low and return is high. Often on Lagos streets and elsewhere you are likely to run into able-bodied men and women, neatly dressed, soliciting for alms as the traffic crawls. Then you have the so-called "corporate beggars": he or she tells you he just lost his purse, his English is impeccable, he is a University or college graduate, he is so persuasive, he wants you to assist him with "a widow's mite" and he asks God to bless you abundantly. He may even entertain you with an informed commentary on the state of the nation, with stinging criticisms of the Nigerian dilemma.

Out of pity, you'd be tempted to part with some money. A few days later, you may run into the same fellow again. He knows you. This time, he would change the story and even struggle to give you a copy of his resume: if you could help him get a job. Confused, you give him some money just to get him off your back. Or is it the woman with twins or a baby, her flattened bosoms hanging loose, bearing all the worldly scars of deprivation and the wickedness of men, running after your car and begging you to help her child or the "ibejis" – you give her money and go to jail for two years? Or it could be the physically challenged, blind like a bat, lame like a possum, assisted by a younger man, who should be in school, the two of them joined together by a long stick, navigating crazy Lagos traffic, and there you are in your air-conditioned car, wondering why this world is so unfair to some people, and then you take a N50 note, moved by the entertaining prayers being showered on you and your future descendants, and you go to jail for that, for being human?

The Lagos State government should leave the beggars alone. Lunatics are also being chased off the streets. Why are they on the streets in the first place? This is the question to ask. When beggars are taken to vocational centres, they run away because it is more profitable to be on the streets. They have no faith in the Nigerian system. They know that they could be treated as if they were prisoners. They know that government officials could turn the maintenance of the centres into a source of livelihood, and an opportunity for looting state resources. What Nigeria needs is to address the distortions within the system. Beggars may never disappear completely from our streets, but if the factories can begin to function again, if the government can check the misfortune of de-industrialisation, if those trucks which used to ferry workers to and fro in the 70s and 80s can return to our streets and the warehouses that have been turned into churches can become warehouses again, the population of beggars should reduce. Nigerians love to work. But when there are no jobs, they become desperate, and constitute themselves into colonies and families of beggars.

The Lagos State government is targeting the beggars on the streets: has anyone considered the army of beggars that exists in every extended family? If you have a job in Nigeria, that job does not provide for you and your nuclear family alone, it compulsorily takes care of beggars within the extended family who monitor your movement and the salary payment season; often they lay ambush by your door, sometimes as early as 5 am, or very late in the night, with the plan to sleep overnight: eat, disturb your peace and still collect your money. Like the beggars on the streets, these family ones are also very good at praying. By the time they finish telling you all the wonders God has decided to do in your life, you will be tempted to take a loan to help them sort out their long list of problems!

Nigeria needs a strong social security system that provides for the poor, the weak, the needy and the aged. Nigeria needs a functional healthcare insurance system that can take care of the army of the poor, who go onto the streets with distended scrotums, blood-soaked bosoms, broken and rotten legs, smelly injuries, soliciting for alms and pushing their wounds in the faces of decent people. Nigerian beggars are the children of a system that has gone awry and is in need of urgent repairs. When next I see a beggar, I will give alms as a good Christian. A two-year jail term? What kind of vexatious law is that?

Reuben Abati Writes

https://www.nairaland.com/1058435/lagos-deports-anambra-refugees/4
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Nobody: 9:23pm On Jul 25, 2013
Fasola is doing a great job. This should not be an Igbo vs Yoruba thread. Like other compatriots, Yorubas have been relocated as well.
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by Americanvisa: 10:01pm On Jul 25, 2013
incredible...........
Re: Lagos Dumps Beggars, Homeless In Onitsha by todayguest(m): 10:09pm On Jul 25, 2013
ShyM-X:
Lagos looks beautiful!!

How can I get a flat for a holiday home in this building right here?

How sure ar U that building wont collapse soon?

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