Our "marines" doing some training...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABacLwdmAro

Funny to think that these guys arent even *that* elite

Henry240:
To East-Africa were we have Ethiopia and Uganda.

Ethiopia mainly assembles Israeli and Chinese origin armoured vehicles.

From Ethiopia, the GAIA Thunder and the WZ-551 APCs.

built by ospera (kenyan subsidiary)themselves using local talent

patches689:
Our "marines" doing some training...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABacLwdmAro

Funny to think that these guys arent even *that* elite

Why can't we have the SAPS STF have mounted GoPros for a PR.. Sucks

Henry240:
To East-Africa were we have Ethiopia and Uganda.

Ethiopia mainly assembles Israeli and Chinese origin armoured vehicles.

From Ethiopia, the GAIA Thunder and the WZ-551 APCs.

Updated information for East-Africa.

As well as the Nyoka which is a Mamba variant from South Africa, we have another Mamba variant built in Kenya.

So like North-Africa, 3 countries in East-Africa build APCs. Ethiopia, Kenya and Uganda.

Hrmnn:


Let me respectfully disagree with this, speaking from personal experience not with tanks but armoured cars and the AML series in particular.

Traverse speed all depends on the turret drive, not the length of the barrel.

If the turret is manually traversed then it's not impossible a longer barrel may take longer to traverse.

However, with an electric/hydraulic turret drive a longer barrelled gun can easily turn much faster than a shorter barrelled gun with manual traverse.

For comparison, it takes twenty to thirty seconds for a normal Ratel-90/Eland-90/AML-90 turret to rotate 360 degrees. Maybe slightly faster with a strong and well-drilled gunner. 61mech and anybody else who has hand cranked that turret will attest to this.

It takes ten to fifteen seconds to traverse the same turret with an electric drive, like in the latest models of the AML-90 Lynx.

Manual turret hand cranks in the 90mm turret:

not everything is an argument.

this is just simple geometry.

the discussion is about the time differences in traversing from POINT A TO POINT B in a long or short tank barrel.

Not about mechanical or electric drive.

OFF TOPIC
Russian SF are WTF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI01qKAqYts

ActivateKruger:


That's why I always say we're just cool with being far away from them and Egypt, just feel sorry for Tunisia and Morocco.

all of that and isreal will still eat them and all other arab countries for lunch

Henry240:



From Egypt, Fahd APC and Temsah family of vehicles.

Fahd top

For egypt with FAHD, Timsah APCs , abrams M1A1 and Ramses II Tanks , their is also 4 variants of "Panthera" APC built localy :
- Panthera T6
- Panthera K10CMD
- Panthera S8
- Panthera S10

and also :
- Tiger Kader-120 (ocal license of Iveco VM 90 ) 4X4 APC and
- Kader-320 4X4 Light Armoured Reconnaissance (armoured version of the Mercedes-Benz MB-320G SUV) bult under license
- the EIFV (Egyptian AIFV variant of the M113, locally built)
- Walid (armored personnel carrier) a wheeled armored personnel carrier based on the BTR-152 and the BTR-40,

BMAT team in Nigeria.

lionel4power:
not everything is an argument.

this is just simple geometry.

the discussion is about the time differences in traversing from POINT A TO POINT B in a long or short tank barrel.

Not about mechanical or electric drive.

Quite so, but you seemed to be implying that a longer barrelled gun will always turn slower than a shorter barrelled gun, regardless of turret drives.

I'm not arguing with you on the math, merely pointing out that it depends on how the turret drives of any two guns compare.

chkil0:


For egypt with FAHD, Timsah APCs , abrams M1A1 and Ramses II Tanks , their is also 4 variants of "Panthera" APC built localy :
- Panthera T6
- Panthera K10CMD
- Panthera S8
- Panthera S10

and also :
- Tiger Kader-120 (ocal license of Iveco VM 90 ) 4X4 APC and
- Kader-320 4X4 Light Armoured Reconnaissance (armoured version of the Mercedes-Benz MB-320G SUV) bult under license
- the EIFV (Egyptian AIFV variant of the M113, locally built)
- Walid (armored personnel carrier) a wheeled armored personnel carrier based on the BTR-152 and the BTR-40,

That's quite significant for Egypt. Tanks are not included, APC's only.

jakeporeshenko:
BMAT team in Nigeria.

Tan beret??SAS??

Hrmnn:


Quite so, but you seemed to be implying that a longer barrelled gun will always turn slower than a shorter barrelled gun, regardless of turret drives.

I'm not arguing with you on the math, merely pointing out that it depends on how the turret drives of any two guns compare.

my argument was and still is that a longer barrel nozzle would point to the target late than a shorter barrel

if I have a pistol (short barrel) I can quickly get it to point on your forehead faster than if I have a battle rifle.

Longer Range can be achieved by using a more energetic propellant and SUPER-ELEVATION of the barrel and NOT BY LONG BARREL.


longer barrel is not the deciding factor in geting accurate hits. Accuracy is decided by having a good FCS when all is in order.

Odunayaw:
Tan beret??SAS??

1st Battalion The Royal Anglian Regt (the vikings) provide "specialist" training while "The Poachers" - The 2nd Battalion Royal Anglian Regiment provide Medical and Counter IED training.

Botswana Air Force

Henry240:
Botswana Air Force

You can't miss the southern African skies.

Malawi Defence Force Soldiers conduct a simulated peacekeeping capabilities demonstration during the Africa Land Forces Summit 2017 at the Malawi Armed Forces College in Salima, Malawi, May 9, 2017. ALFS is an annual, weeklong seminar bringing together land force chiefs from across Africa for candid dialog to discuss and develop cooperative solutions to regional and transregional challenges and threats. (U.S. Army Africa photo by Sgt. Paige Behringer)

Kenya defense forces soldiers

chkil0:


For egypt with FAHD, Timsah APCs , abrams M1A1 and Ramses II Tanks , their is also 4 variants of "Panthera" APC built localy :
- Panthera T6
- Panthera K10CMD
- Panthera S8
- Panthera S10

and also :
- Tiger Kader-120 (ocal license of Iveco VM 90 ) 4X4 APC and
- Kader-320 4X4 Light Armoured Reconnaissance (armoured version of the Mercedes-Benz MB-320G SUV) bult under license
- the EIFV (Egyptian AIFV variant of the M113, locally built)
- Walid (armored personnel carrier) a wheeled armored personnel carrier based on the BTR-152 and the BTR-40,

how would your country or any arab nation or combined arab nation fare against isreal, you think

Recce company drill

kenya soldiers learning to deal with multiple casualties on the "Battlefield" on the British Peace Support Team (Eastern Africa) UKCSSF Battlefield Medical Training.

kenyan soldiers using Smoke Grenades as "cover" to extract casualties from Battlefield while under fire during training under guidance of British army trainers

MiddleDimension:


how would your country or any arab nation or combined arab nation fare against isreal, you think

its a thorny subject and out of the thread subject , so i will give only my opinion without Opening a debate ,

for me most important in case of war is the United state of america position ! without US ( Intervention, aerial bridge of weapons, soldiers and intelligence ... ) , without politic ect... , only talking about military , one on one , egyptian army alone will kick the a*s of little israel any time in a long full war . Israel can not endure a long open war that will exceed one month alone , thats my opinion

AMISOM

Ugandan soldiers

chkil0:


its a thorny subject and out of the thread subject , so i will give only my opinion without Opening a debate ,

for me most important in case of war is the United state of america position ! without US ( Intervention, aerial bridge of weapons, soldiers and intelligence ... ) , without politic ect... , only talking about military , one on one , egyptian army alone will kick the a*s of little israel any time in a long full war . Israel can not endure a long open war that will exceed one month alone , thats my opinion

hahaha! you got laughing there, mehn. i really like your post. but how was it possible the won the yomkipur war?

newafricaken254:
Malawi Defence Force Soldiers conduct a simulated peacekeeping capabilities demonstration during the Africa Land Forces Summit 2017 at the Malawi Armed Forces College in Salima, Malawi, May 9, 2017. ALFS is an annual, weeklong seminar bringing together land force chiefs from across Africa for candid dialog to discuss and develop cooperative solutions to regional and transregional challenges and threats. (U.S. Army Africa photo by Sgt. Paige Behringer)

am impressed by the scale of the simulation.

Somali cadets in Turkey at the IDEF17

Pres Farmajo chats with US Defense Secretary Jim Mattis at London Conference. Mattis expressed support for Somali security sector

KDF

MiddleDimension:


hahaha! you got laughing there, mehn. i really like your post. but how was it possible the won the yomkipur war?

well if you ask egyptians they will tell you that they started the war to return back their sinaii land occupied by israel ! and that what they did and get billions dollars each year from Mama USA from that war until today , (This is why some Arab countries see egypt as traitor who sold palestine case for money ) , and again my opinion is in a case of a war without Mama USA ,

now , last post for me for this subject dont wont to derail the thread with this kind a thorny debate . back to posting african armies pics for me

Kenya soldiers attending to a casualty during training,under close supervision of British army trainers

kenya army personnels conduct medical camp & supply water to locals of Baure, Basuba & Mangai in Boni, Lamu County,kenya. this is region close to somalia border,which alshabaab sneaks to carry out attacks