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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 2:52pm On Apr 15, 2020
jl115:
But why use a Hilux when you can use a Casspir? Carries more troops, and in the event something goes wrong then you are protected?

Also we have thousands of Mambas and Casspirs.....more than what we have pickups, so why not use the things we have?
that's exactly where I was heading..
Using what u have...
And in our own case we'll prefer the Hilux

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 2:53pm On Apr 15, 2020
Ablemax:






Look at quality and plenty armoured carrier


If it's naija now it's Toyota Hilux you Will be seeing on Every corners

The vehicles are from 40 years ago. The war in Angola.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 3:05pm On Apr 15, 2020
kabe1:


The vehicles are from 40 years ago. The war in Angola.

And are still being built and Exported to this day........Also its only the Casspir that saw action in the Border War.

Our Mambas are relatively new with the MK2(entered service in 1995) being upgraded to MK3 standard in 2006-2008.

And FYI there still isn't a vehicle on the market that offers better Blast protection than the Casspir

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 4:31pm On Apr 15, 2020
jl115:
And are still being built and Exported to this day........Also its only the Casspir that saw action in the Border War.

Our Mambas are relatively new with the MK2(entered service in 1995) being upgraded to MK3 standard in 2006-2008.

And FYI there still isn't a vehicle on the market that offers better Blast protection than the Casspir

I'm not talking about the specification of the vehicle.

The fact of the matter is the Casspir has been in service for more than 40 years.

You did not disprove that.

As for the Mamba, a vehicle that entered service in 1995 is not relatively new say.

A vehicle that entered service in 1995, that's 25 years ago is very old. Nothing relatively new about it.

All MRAP APCs that are built today offer very, very good protection against mines.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 4:37pm On Apr 15, 2020
Ablemax:






Look at quality and plenty armoured carrier


If it's naija now it's Toyota Hilux you Will be seeing on Every corners

Well, you have to also take into account attrition of armoured vehicles in the service of the Nigerian army.

We bought 47 Reva APCs in 2015, how many are operational today. There's going to be a lot of wear and tear when you're at war.

That's not the same for South-Africa, were most of their APCs were used 40 years ago.

Take a look at their project to purchase 250 units of Badger IFVs, there is no movement on that and the project has stalled.

P.S , this is not a slight against South-Africa, I think the South-Africa army is doing it's best, but funds are not coming through.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 4:44pm On Apr 15, 2020
kabe1:


I'm not talking about the specification of the vehicle.

The fact of the matter is the Casspir has been in service for more than 40 years.

You did not disprove that.

As for the Mamba, a vehicle that entered service in 1995 is not relatively new say.

A vehicle that entered service in 1995, that's 25 years ago is very old. Nothing relatively new about it.

All MRAP APCs that are built today offer very, very good protection against mines.
Yes I know i didn't disprove that the Casspir has seen service for nearly 40 years, because i wasn't trying to!! I even agreed with you on that point

The Mamba M3 entered service from 2006-2008, that's relatively new

Also I said there isn't a vehicle on he market today that has better blast protection than the Casspir.......prove me wrong if you can!
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 4:45pm On Apr 15, 2020
jl115:

Yes I know i didn't disprove that the Casspir has seen service for nearly 40 years, because i wasn't trying to!! I even agreed with you on that point

The Mamba M3 entered service from 2006-2008, that's relatively new

Also I said there isn't a vehicle on he market today that has better blast protection than the Casspir.......prove me wrong if you can!

It's not a competition, I don't have to prove you wrong.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 4:47pm On Apr 15, 2020
kabe1:


Well, you have to also take into account attrition of armoured vehicles in the service of the Nigerian army.

We bought 47 Reva APCs in 2015, how many are operational today. There's going to be a lot of wear and tear when you're at war.

That's not the same for South-Africa, were most of their APCs were used 40 years ago.

Take a look at their project to purchase 250 units of Badger IFVs, there is no movement on that and the project has stalled.

P.S , this is not a slight against South-Africa, I think the South-Africa army is doing it's best, but funds are not coming through.
Stop spreading fake news........The project is not stalled, its simply delayed, instead of receiving the first batch in 2019 the SANDF is now only going to receive the first batch in 2022

Also the delay is no fault of the SANDF but rather the inability to preform from Denels part!!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 4:49pm On Apr 15, 2020
kabe1:


It's not a competition, I don't have to prove you wrong.

Well you seem very salty bro!!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 4:52pm On Apr 15, 2020
jl115:

Stop spreading fake news........The project is not stalled, its simply delayed, instead of receiving the first batch in 2019 the SANDF is now only going to receive the first batch in 2022

Also the delay is no fault of the SANDF but rather the inability to preform from Denels part!!

From the first date the Badger IFV was supposed to enter service to 2022 is how many years?


9 years after the contract for 238 units was signed.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 4:53pm On Apr 15, 2020
jl115:

Stop spreading fake news........The project is not

Also the delay is no fault of the SANDF but rather the inability to preform from Denels part!!

OK, Denel is incompetent then, well taken.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by AskiaHarem(m): 4:56pm On Apr 15, 2020
jl115:
But why use a Hilux when you can use a Casspir? Carries more troops, and in the event something goes wrong then you are protected?

Also we have thousands of Mambas and Casspirs.....more than what we have pickups, so why not use the things we have?

Waste of money situation is not that serious.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 5:21pm On Apr 15, 2020
AskiaHarem:


Waste of money situation is not that serious.
So we should've bought Hilux's because that wouldn't be a waste of money?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 5:22pm On Apr 15, 2020
kabe1:


OK, Denel is incompetent then, well taken.
Yes 100% they are incompetent with regards to the delivery of project hoefyster
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 5:31pm On Apr 15, 2020
kabe1:


From the first date the Badger IFV was supposed to enter service to 2022 is how many years?


9 years after the contract for 238 units was signed.
The first batch was supposed to be delivered in 2019 with the last batch in 2022.

Also you bought 12 Tucano aircraft in 2017 and you are only receiving it in 2024 ........7 years for 12 Turboprops..........Thus I wouldn't throw stones!!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 5:38pm On Apr 15, 2020
jl115:

The first batch was supposed to be delivered in 2019 with the last batch in 2022.

Also you bought 12 Tucano aircraft in 2017 and you are only receiving it in 2024 ........7 years for 12 Turboprops..........Thus I wouldn't through stones!!
You signed the contract in 2013.

No, Nigeria paid for Tucanos last year. 2019.

Deliveries would commence in 2021.

Nigeria paid for VT4 Tanks and IFVs last year, we have gotten them.

Nigeria completed payment for JF-17 last year, deliveries would commence this year.

Nigeria paid for Ezugwu MRAPs last year, 10 units have been delivered. Another contract was signed last year for 28 units.


Do deflect from the fact that you signed Badger contract in 2013 and you're expecting deliveries 9 years later. That's sad.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:02pm On Apr 15, 2020
Watch video

Recently acquired Nigerian army Tanks, Heavy artillery and Tank Destroyer already on their way to Borno state.


https://mobile.twitter.com/Sade3q_/status/1250367260096704512

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:04pm On Apr 15, 2020
Proforce Defence also building additional MRAP APCs for the Nigerian army following continued success of the ARA MRAP APCs.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:07pm On Apr 15, 2020
kabe1:

You signed the contract in 2013.

No, Nigeria paid for Tucanos last year. 2019.

Deliveries would commence in 2021.

Nigeria paid for VT4 Tanks and IFVs last year, we have gotten them.

Nigeria completed payment for JF-17 last year, deliveries would commence this year.

Nigeria paid for Ezugwu MRAPs last year, 10 units have been delivered. Another contract was signed last year for 28 units.


Do deflect from the fact that you signed Badger contract in 2013 and you're expecting deliveries 9 years later. That's sad.
- Nigeria signed the Tucano contract in 2017 and paid for it in 2018
- You ordered 17 vehicles in total, VT4,SH5 105mm and ST1
- The actual contract for your JF17 was signed years ago
- The Ezugwe isn't an 8x8 IFV with several different variants

The contract has been delayed by 36 months according to Denel.........regardless of when the contact was signed, the actual delivery was only supposed to have commenced from 2019.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:10pm On Apr 15, 2020
jl115:

- Nigeria signed the Tucano contract in 2017 and paid for it in 2018
- You ordered 17 vehicles in total, VT4,SH5 105mm and ST1
- The actual contract for your JF17 was signed years ago
- The Ezugwe isn't an 8x8 IFV with several different variants

The contract has been delayed by 36 months according to Denel.........regardless of when the contact was signed, the actual delivery was only supposed to have commenced from 2019.

You know what, Nigeria signed the contract 40 years ago also.

We also ordered 2 vehicles in total.

The actual contract for the JF-17 was signed in 1960, Lord Lugard witnessed it.

The Ezugwu is a cardboard cut out.

Denel is the best and most advanced and most profitable defence company in the world.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 6:10pm On Apr 15, 2020
jl115:

- Nigeria signed the Tucano contract in 2017 and paid for it in 2018
- You ordered 17 vehicles in total, VT4,SH5 105mm and ST1
- The actual contract for your JF17 was signed years ago
- The Ezugwe isn't an 8x8 IFV with several different variants

The contract has been delayed by 36 months according to Denel.........regardless of when the contact was signed, the actual delivery was only supposed to have commenced from 2019.
no not 17 vehicles sir...
It was 17 delivered first set...
General said more are coming
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by AskiaHarem(m): 6:45pm On Apr 15, 2020
jl115:
So we should've bought Hilux's because that wouldn't be a waste of money?

Stop putting words in my mouth. Using MRAPS and other heavy transport to patrol streets with the primary reason being quarantine overlooking is a waste of money since there more expensive to operate.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:37pm On Apr 15, 2020
AskiaHarem:


Stop putting words in my mouth. Using MRAPS and other heavy transport to patrol streets with the primary reason being quarantine overlooking is a waste of money since there more expensive to operate.
The difference in operating cost is negligible at best! They were designed to be cheap to operate...........Also we don't have thousands of Hilux's....so in this case its much cheaper to operate mamba and casspir

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:38pm On Apr 15, 2020
kabe1:


You know what, Nigeria signed the contract 40 years ago also.

We also ordered 2 vehicles in total.

The actual contract for the JF-17 was signed in 1960, Lord Lugard witnessed it.

The Ezugwu is a cardboard cut out.

Denel is the best and most advanced and most profitable defence company in the world.
Bro don't start pissing your pants......You are the one that started speaking utter nonsense

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:39pm On Apr 15, 2020
Toju200:
no not 17 vehicles sir...
It was 17 delivered first set...
General said more are coming
Yes also read that wink Think it was 35 vehicles if im correct.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 7:53pm On Apr 15, 2020
kabe1:


You know what, Nigeria signed the contract 40 years ago also.

We also ordered 2 vehicles in total.

The actual contract for the JF-17 was signed in 1960, Lord Lugard witnessed it.

The Ezugwu is a cardboard cut out.

Denel is the best and most advanced and most profitable defence company in the world.

Note not 17 vehicles; initially there was a consignment that first came in which was spare parts and munitions for the vehicles.
The second consignment was the deliveries of those 17 MBT, tank destroyer and S.P.A.G, according to some sources and Lt Gen Adeosun , more equipment are still coming in. But we’ve sign up 38 MBT, I don’t know of other equipments.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 8:08pm On Apr 15, 2020
If our T-55's MBT are serviceable is it possible to be converted to something like this...just asking

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:39pm On Apr 15, 2020
Locally Nigerian made Rocket Launchers for the MI-17 helicopter.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:41pm On Apr 15, 2020
Fight against COVID-19

Locally made ventilators.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:44pm On Apr 15, 2020
NIGERIAN ARMY SCHOOL OF INFANTRY GRADUATES SPIS SPECIAL FORCES STUDENTS.

The Nigerian Army School of Infantry (NASI) has today graduated Starter Point Integrated Services (SPIS) Special Forces Students at Camp Seleya in Jaji Military Cantonment.

The graduating students are officers and soldiers of 81 Battalion, 198 and 199 Special Forces Battalions. A total number of 916 students graduated.

The Chief of Army Staff, Lt Gen TY Buratai was represented by the Chief of Policy and Plan (Army), Lt Gen LO Adeosun during the occasion. Other dignitaries that graced the occasion were the Comdant NDA, Maj Gen J Sarham, the Director General DICON, Maj Gen VO Ezeugu, the GOC 1Div, Maj Gen US Mohammed, the Comd Infantry Corps, Maj Gen SO Olabanji, the Comdant Martin Luther Agwai International Leadership and Peace Keeping Centre, Maj Gen AT Ataguba, the Dir Physical Training (Army), Maj Gen OW Ali amongst others.

The high points of the occasion were the combat display by the graduating students, presentation of certificate and souvenirs and tree planting at NASI Conservation Area.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:45pm On Apr 15, 2020
More pics

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:46pm On Apr 15, 2020
jteku:
If our T-55's MBT are serviceable is it possible to be converted to something like this...just asking

I heard the range of this vehicle rockets is not too good.

S400.

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