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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:49am On Jan 17, 2017
kenya national police service is to acquire 4 more helicopter adding up to 7 by July 2017.this was stated by the president while he flagged off 500 police vehicles

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljMRMK6kGFA

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:58am On Jan 17, 2017
Declassified photograph showing Nigerian Air Force mission brief.


Air Component, Air Coordination Center Operation Layifa dole.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:56am On Jan 17, 2017
Burundi to withdraw troops from AU Somalia mission

Nairobi - Burundi on Monday began the process of withdrawing its troops from the African Union Mission in Somalia (Amisom) due to a dispute with the EU over the payment of wages.

Amisom salaries are paid by the EU but have not been received in Bujumbura for months as European diplomats seek to avoid sending money directly to a government against which the bloc imposed sanctions in response to a nearly two-year-long political crisis.

The EU wants to pay the salaries, worth $5.3m per month, directly to the troops.

But with no agreement yet made President Pierre Nkurunziza has instructed his foreign and defence ministers to begin the process of withdrawing Burundi's 5 400 soldiers, roughly one quarter of the Amisom total.

If the Burundian withdrawal goes ahead it could seriously weaken the ability of Amisom to fight the Shabaab, an al Qaeda-linked jihadist group committed to overthrowing Somalia's internationally-backed government.

"We have decided to begin the process, as we have long promised, because our troops engaged with Amisom cannot continue to work without being paid," said first vice-president Gaston Sindimwo.

Burundi's government threatened the withdrawal of its troops last month.

"We would like to continue supporting and securing Somalia, but we are obliged to put the withdrawal mechanisms in place," Sindimwo said, adding that Burundian soldiers have not been paid for 12 months.

Burundi has been in the throes of a serious, sometimes deadly political crisis since April 2015 when Nkurunziza announced his intention to run for a third term which opponents said was unconstitutional.

He went on to win an election in July that was boycotted by the opposition and criticised by outside observers.

Violence in Burundi has so far killed at least 500 people and driven more than 300 000 to leave the country.

The EU's decision to suspend payment of Burundian soldiers' salaries via Bujumbura is part of efforts to increase pressure on the government.

In March, the European Union - Burundi's largest donor - suspended direct aid to the regime.

The African Union, which is due to hold its next summit in Addis Ababa at the end of January, in November condemned the EU decision to suspend payment of Burundian soldiers' wages, warning of a potentially negative impact on the security situation in Somalia.
link http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/burundi-to-withdraw-troops-from-au-somalia-mission-20170116
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:52pm On Jan 17, 2017
africaken254:


link http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/burundi-to-withdraw-troops-from-au-somalia-mission-20170116

And yet you, the civilian, tried to argue with me, the man in uniform, when I told you Kenya will never be re-imbursed for the use of its naval assets in Kismayo because:

1) When Kenya incurred the expense, it was a unilateral mission and not part of AMISOM;
2) AMISOM is an AU - not UN - mission and the AU doesn't have the funds;
3) The EU and the US voluntarily fund AMISOM and can withdraw their funding anytime for whatever reason;
4) The UN only has a political mission, UNSOM, to support Somalia's nascent government and to sometimes help with airlift for AMISOM; and
5) UN approval for AMISOM =/= UN funding.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:10pm On Jan 17, 2017
Nigeria Army Rep at Gulf state anti IS conference

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Fidha254(m): 2:32pm On Jan 17, 2017
frumentius:


And yet you, the civilian, tried to argue with me, the man in uniform, when I told you Kenya will never be re-imbursed for the use of its naval assets in Kismayo because:

1) When Kenya incurred the expense, it was a unilateral mission and not part of AMISOM;
2) AMISOM is an AU - not UN - mission and the AU doesn't have the funds;
3) The EU and the US voluntarily fund AMISOM and can withdraw their funding anytime for whatever reason;
4) The UN only has a political mission, UNSOM, to support Somalia's nascent government and to sometimes help with airlift for AMISOM; and
5) UN approval for AMISOM =/= UN funding.
Your number 5 there is correct but also answers thequestion ......
essencial Amisom is an AU mission, but with APROVAL from the UN, and specifically, its mandated by the UN security council... So the AU and Amisom are free to do their thing, as long as its on the mandate of the mission, when KDF was joining Amisom, it negociated with both AUand UN, even after approval from AU they had to wait for the approval of UNSC , and thats when the UNSC refuse to include naval assets and fighter craft of kdf as part of Amisom... and since they refused, tge EU and US did not want to fund those resources since they are only intrested in funding Amisom and not individual entities, but since the same countries are the ones that refused kenya's request through the UNSC...we. could say they just didnt wanna fund the use of those assets period.




here are exerpts from articles from 2012 when kenya was joining amisom, notice how they keep quoting UN mandate..


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KDF Spokesman Colonel Oguna said Kenyan troops would retain the right to use maritime resources outside the new UN mandate if its sea borders were threatened.This is despite Wednesday’s mandate allowing them to join Amisom, which bars the use of seaborne military equipment.
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A report by the UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon reveals that Kenya will provide 4,700 troops and will be based in Sector 2, covering Middle and Lower Juba regions (Kismayu). Till now, the Kenya Defence Forces, which entered Somalia in October last year, have been secretive on the number of troops on the ground, although it is estimated Nairobi has at least 2,000 soldiers in the neighbouring country.
The UN has authorised Uganda and Burundi to increase their troop levels in Somalia to reach the 12,000 mark, up from their current strength of 9,500 troops.
Kenya, defence officials said, is awaiting a decision by the AU and the UN Security Councils on when the country can formally join the Somalia mission. The cost of deploying 17,731 troops is likely to double Amisom’s budget from the 2011 figure of $247 million to between $450 million and $500 million.
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http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/UN+unveils+new+look+Amisom+as+Kenya+joins+up/-/2558/1324660/-/gtn01k/-/index.html



esseciall the mission itself is an AU mission, but under mandate from the UN



pic KDF former head of operations and information teleconferencing with comanders in somalia

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:35pm On Jan 17, 2017
Algerian army helped to open roads , Heavy snowfall isolates many parts of Algeria



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9qPitI6kp4
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:12pm On Jan 17, 2017
Poland completes overhaul of Senegal’s Mi-24 attack helicopter

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:29pm On Jan 17, 2017
Fidha254:
essencial Amisom is an AU mission, but with APROVAL from the UN, and specifically, its mandated by the UN security council...

Exactly what I've been saying all along.
And since the AU doesn't have the funds to re-imburse Kenya and other AMISOM participating countries, they went begging to the EU and the US. Both those entities aren't funding because of the milk of human kindness, but for realpolitik self-interest.
And since he who pays the piper plays the tune, there's a price to pay should the participating countries refuse either to dance, or get it into their heads that they'd prefer a taraab tune to the piper's waltz. As Burundi has just found out.

Trump's team has also just asked the State Department to justify why the US continues to fund AMISOM after 10 years "with no Al-Shabaab defeat".

The moral of the story: the African contribution to the AU's funds cannot continue to be funded by mainly 4 countries: Algeria, Egypt, Nigeria and South Africa. 50 countries collectively pay about $40 million (with many still in arrears) whilst the 4 pay over $250 million! Of course Gaddafi used to pay for some of them so that they'd vote for his mad schemes, but that era is gone.

That's before we even ask why the AU should be funded by donors!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:33pm On Jan 17, 2017
africaken254:
Poland completes overhaul of Senegal’s Mi-24 attack helicopter

In this day and age, I don't understand any country still wasting money with band-aid and patches to their Mi-24s, when they can summons Paramount for reconstructive surgery to SuperHind, like Algeria.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:51pm On Jan 17, 2017
frumentius:


In this day and age, I don't understand any country still wasting money with band-aid and patches to their Mi-24s, when they can summons Paramount for reconstructive surgery to SuperHind, like Algeria.
may be the cost hinder them,most of this are scraping funds due to the growing threat of extremist groups in that region
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:06pm On Jan 17, 2017
Somali Army troops graduate from a Combat course in built up areas

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrlaCLa-eKg
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 5:06pm On Jan 17, 2017
chkil:


there is the World Military football Cup this days in Oman (15 to 28 january 2017 ) , from africa there is teams of : mali, egypt, algeria , guinea .... and algeria won the last world title in 2015 , and 2011 also
UN RELATED
This is serious " BLUE ON BLUE"
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/01/boko-haram-fighter-jet-misfires-shoots-civilians-icrc-staff-others-borno/
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by gottfried21(m): 5:07pm On Jan 17, 2017
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by gottfried21(m): 5:09pm On Jan 17, 2017
Nigeria is deploying it's newest ship NNS Unity to Gambia
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-africa-38281555?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=587e3ca1e4b0b4f965d3d335%26Nigeria%20'deploys%20warship'%20to%20The%20Gambia%26&ns_fee=0#post_587e3ca1e4b0b4f965d3d335

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:00pm On Jan 17, 2017
French rafale jets low flying in Mali

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:13pm On Jan 17, 2017
africaken254:
French rafale jets low flying in Mali
LOLZZ.... grin
this photo justifies my recent post in the technical thread , Su-30 series air frames don't have the stress tolerances that are required for flying terrain-hugging flight profiles. also their existing X-band multi-mode radars don’t have with low-altitude terrain avoidance mode or automatic terrain-following capability or weather-mapping mode and nor are they equipped with low-altitude navigation pods unlike the Rafales.

any radar station mounted on the mountains will simply not register any blip because the rafales flying in the terrain hugging mode will be below the radar horizon and also the background ground clutter will make it extremely difficult for any radar operator to pickup the rafale , even if it shows up in the radar screen for a short time.


OFF TOPIC POST

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:14pm On Jan 17, 2017
frumentius:


Exactly what I've been saying all along.
And since the AU doesn't have the funds to re-imburse Kenya and other AMISOM participating countries, they went begging to the EU and the US. Both those entities aren't funding because of the milk of human kindness, but for realpolitik self-interest.
And since he who pays the piper plays the tune, there's a price to pay should the participating countries refuse either to dance, or get it into their heads that they'd prefer a taraab tune to the piper's waltz. As Burundi has just found out.

Trump's team has also just asked the State Department to justify why the US continues to fund AMISOM after 10 years "with no Al-Shabaab defeat".

The moral of the story: the African contribution to the AU's funds cannot continue to be funded by mainly 4 countries: Algeria, Egypt, Nigeria and South Africa. 50 countries collectively pay about $40 million (with many still in arrears) whilst the 4 pay over $250 million! Of course Gaddafi used to pay for some of them so that they'd vote for his mad schemes, but that era is gone.

That's before we even ask why the AU should be funded by donors!

It's unfortunate that 4 countries have to pay $250 million each year while the other 50 pay a paltry $50 million. Each country should be pulling it's fair share.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:16pm On Jan 17, 2017
The Blue on Blue incident in Nigeria is quite unfortunate.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:18pm On Jan 17, 2017
gottfried21:
Nigeria is deploying it's newest ship NNS Unity to Gambia
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-africa-38281555?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=587e3ca1e4b0b4f965d3d335%26Nigeria%20'deploys%20warship'%20to%20The%20Gambia%26&ns_fee=0#post_587e3ca1e4b0b4f965d3d335

NNS Unity and NNS Karaduwa should be the best combo. With Karaduwa carrying out most of the patrol.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:38pm On Jan 17, 2017
frumentius:


Exactly what I've been saying all along.
And since the AU doesn't have the funds to re-imburse Kenya and other AMISOM participating countries, they went begging to the EU and the US. Both those entities aren't funding because of the milk of human kindness, but for realpolitik self-interest.
And since he who pays the piper plays the tune, there's a price to pay should the participating countries refuse either to dance, or get it into their heads that they'd prefer a taraab tune to the piper's waltz. As Burundi has just found out.

Trump's team has also just asked the State Department to justify why the US continues to fund AMISOM after 10 years "with no Al-Shabaab defeat".

The moral of the story: the African contribution to the AU's funds cannot continue to be funded by mainly 4 countries: Algeria, Egypt, Nigeria and South Africa. 50 countries collectively pay about $40 million (with many still in arrears) whilst the 4 pay over $250 million! Of course Gaddafi used to pay for some of them so that they'd vote for his mad schemes, but that era is gone.

That's before we even ask why the AU should be funded by donors!
with in increased involvement by saudi and gulf countries in libya and yemen. also the recent agreement by some of this states to build bases in this regional autonomous somalia states,i foresee their involvement in Somalia after AMISOM leaves
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 6:48pm On Jan 17, 2017
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:54pm On Jan 17, 2017
2 suspected poachers killed by police in Tsavo East National Park; AK47 gun and 13 rounds of ammunition recovered.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:02pm On Jan 17, 2017
frumentius:


Exactly what I've been saying all along.
And since the AU doesn't have the funds to re-imburse Kenya and other AMISOM participating countries, they went begging to the EU and the US. Both those entities aren't funding because of the milk of human kindness, but for realpolitik self-interest.
And since he who pays the piper plays the tune, there's a price to pay should the participating countries refuse either to dance, or get it into their heads that they'd prefer a taraab tune to the piper's waltz. As Burundi has just found out.

Trump's team has also just asked the State Department to justify why the US continues to fund AMISOM after 10 years "with no Al-Shabaab defeat".

The moral of the story: the African contribution to the AU's funds cannot continue to be funded by mainly 4 countries: Algeria, Egypt, Nigeria and South Africa. 50 countries collectively pay about $40 million (with many still in arrears) whilst the 4 pay over $250 million! Of course Gaddafi used to pay for some of them so that they'd vote for his mad schemes, but that era is gone.

That's before we even ask why the AU should be funded by donors!

i hope this is going to interest trump
Tullow hits a big oil well in Turkana,kenya

British explorer, Tullow Oil, has hit another oil bonanza in Kenya, taking the country closer to hitting one billion barrels of recoverable reserves. The company today announced more finds at the Erut-1 well in Turkana basin, in what is set to lift the country’s estimates of the black gold from 750 million barrels. “We are on track with our 1 billion+ barrels of oil target,” the firm said in a statement, citing ongoing exploration works.

The latest find involved drilling vertically through 25 metres of rock reservoir holding oil, which is similar to 25 metres of net oil pay. Tullow, however, declined to disclose the amount of barrels struck. “We cannot yet extrapolate exactly how much oil that is but it’s very encouraging,” the explorer said.

Tullow struck Kenya’s first oil in Turkana’s Lokichar basin in 2012 and followed it with a string of other finds that have put the country on the path to becoming an oil producer. The company is set to start churning out 2,000 barrels of crude oil daily for early small-scale exports in June as part of Kenyan government’s plan to test the global market.

The explorer last April announced another find that elevated Kenya’s recoverable reserves by 25 per cent from 600 million barrels to 750 million barrels. The latest wet well, Erut-1, was a virgin exploration field (wildcat well) without previous record for oil reserves.

It was drilled 1.3 kilometres with the overall oil column for the field considered to be 100 to 125 metres, according to Tullow.
link http://businesstoday.co.ke/tullow-hits-a-big-oil-well-in-turkana/

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:49pm On Jan 17, 2017
PRESS RELEASE
Re: THE RANN ACCIDENTAL AIR STRIKE

The Nigerian Air Force (NAF) is saddened by today’s accidental air strike by its fighter jet at Rann in Kala Balge area of Borno State in which some innocent lives were lost. While available information is sketchy, the Theatre Commander OPERATION LAFIYA DOLE is taking appropriate steps to avail us with details of the incident. The loss occasioned by this unfortunate incident is deeply regretted. The NAF commiserates with those affected and their families and would update the public as soon as detailed facts emerge from the investigation.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 7:55pm On Jan 17, 2017
Henry240:
PRESS RELEASE
Re: THE RANN ACCIDENTAL AIR STRIKE


So painful now anger should be transferred to BHT.

Conduct more airstrikes on their positions.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 8:28pm On Jan 17, 2017
tdayof:


So painful now anger should be transferred to BHT.

Conduct more airstrikes on their positions.


grin shocked grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:33pm On Jan 17, 2017
tdayof:


So painful now anger should be transferred to BHT.

Conduct more airstrikes on their positions.

It's a sad incident, however the response from the military has been stellar and worthy of emulation. This is how a professional military should respond.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:38pm On Jan 17, 2017
Henry240:


It's unfortunate that 4 countries have to pay $250 million each year while the other 50 pay a paltry $50 million. Each country should be pulling it's fair share.

And those are 2012 figures! For my peace of mind I'll refrain from looking up latest figures.

Also did you notice that the EU only said they'll pay Burundian soldiers directly and not through the govt? If Nkurunziza cared about the mission or Somalia, he wouldn't have withdrawn the troops.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:51pm On Jan 17, 2017
Nigerian army art

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