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Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by Novacaine(m): 3:15pm On Jun 05, 2008
God is with Obama nothing evil will happen to him.My point is he needs the support of Hilary to win that presidency he cant do it without her voters whether yall like it or not besides he is still considered in the black minority and therefore needs some endorsement from the whites.Hilary can be a witch but the Democrats could use someone that can fight dirty and she sure fits the bill playing nice doesnt work all the time just ask Al Gore
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by Ibime(m): 3:27pm On Jun 05, 2008
MyTempID, please take your Obama-hating elsewhere. Nobody wants to hear it. Kudos to Obama for winning the ticket but I think he needs to make Hillary his running mate to heal some of the divisions.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by adebisi1(m): 5:03pm On Jun 05, 2008
obama has made the entire black race happy, this gives us hope, faith and strenght, the black race is no longer inferior, we on the edge of producing the strongest man in the world.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by sheniqua: 5:13pm On Jun 05, 2008
Ibime:

MyTempID, please take your Obama-hating elsewhere. Nobody wants to hear it. Kudos to Obama for winning the ticket but I think he needs to make Hillary his running mate to heal some of the divisions.

I told you people his brain matter is filled with chivita juice and ogi
You'd think he'll finally get it .
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by sheniqua: 5:15pm On Jun 05, 2008
Novacaine:

God is with Obama nothing evil will happen to him.My point is he needs the support of Hilary to win that presidency he can't do it without her voters whether yall like it or not besides he is still considered in the black minority and therefore needs some endorsement from the whites.Hilary can be a witch but the Democrats could use someone that can fight dirty and she sure fits the bill playing nice doesnt work all the time just ask Al Gore

On the radio today,they compared his charisma and oratory with Robert Kennedy's.
But he will not end up like RFK even if there are 2 million " his temp Id's " around.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by sheniqua: 5:17pm On Jun 05, 2008
The best candidate for VP, (if only he'll agree) is AL GORE.
If Al gets on that ticket, this game is over.
let them go and beg him.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by Sisikill: 5:53pm On Jun 05, 2008
I don't understand why they can't elaborate on their opinions without feeling the need to snap. More the reason why I choose not to affiliate with these clowns. They have very little points of interest to contribute, but instead continue to shower themselves in insultive lingo that just shows they're incapable morons. As soon as they see someone disagree with their thoughts they feel ad-hominems will simply scare them off, mind you, that's not how it functions in the real world. In the world out there these empty shells would be assigned simple tasks since they can't handle the heavier ones.

Good Lord! How can you type this with a straight face when the first post from you on this thread was insults-riddled? By your own admission, you were lurking, waiting for the first chance to jump on the person your post directed to and then you don't stop there. . .You take it further by insulting everyone whose opinion differs from yours. If they shower themselves in insulting-lingo, then you sir soak yourself in it.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by ima1(f): 6:30pm On Jun 05, 2008
See why i say Clinton is evil, she doesn't plan to end her campaign, she plans to suspend it, keep all her votes so come November if they vote for her she might be able to win it, does that say this is someone who would want to be Obama vice president or is she just trying to steal this thing from Obama from under the rug.


Clinton plans to suspend her campaign within days, her campaign said. By suspending instead of dropping out altogether, Clinton would technically remain a candidate, entitled to keep statewide pledged delegates and district-level delegates.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/05/clinton.obama.wrap/index.html
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by 4Him1(m): 5:37am On Jun 06, 2008
ima1:

See why i say Clinton is evil, she doesn't plan to end her campaign, she plans to suspend it, keep all her votes so come November if they vote for her she might be able to win it, does that say this is someone who would want to be Obama vice president or is she just trying to steal this thing from Obama from under the rug.


Clinton plans to suspend her campaign within days, her campaign said. By suspending instead of dropping out altogether, Clinton would technically remain a candidate, entitled to keep statewide pledged delegates and district-level delegates.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/05/clinton.obama.wrap/index.html


Mitt Romney also merely suspended his own campaign so technically he's still a candidate but we all know the RNC can only present one candidate in Nov. The same thing for the DNC, there cannot be 2 candidates in Nov sooner or later someone will just have to remove Hillary's blinkered glasses.

I suppose she still finds it difficult to fathom how she went from virtually a shoe-in for the nomination last yr to also-ran.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by WesleyanA(f): 5:54am On Jun 06, 2008
he was in my city and the crowd was huge i heard. even though he's my husband i was too busy to go listen to him talk.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by 4Him1(m): 6:21am On Jun 06, 2008
wesleyanA is still alive, to God be the glory.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by anonimi: 10:30am On Jun 06, 2008
Below are just the last two paragraphs of Abati's comment on Obama's nomination

In total Obama has spent just about three years as a Senator, and four years as Senator in the state of Illinois. He is just 46. If he had been a Nigerian, he would have been told to wait and allow older people to run. Obama has the gift of the gab. Here, he would have been told: "na grammar we go chop". His insistence on change would have been pooh-poohed. His contemporaries out of sheer envy would have said: "is he the only one, who does he think he is?" And they would have struggled to pull him down even without being commissioned to do so by the opposition, or the Clintonites. In the last Presidential elections in Nigeria, Pat Utomi had wanted to be President. He shares a lot in common with Barack Obama. Well-educated, well-spoken, has a good grasp of issues and has demonstrated a passion for the common good over the years. He ran a vigorous campaign criss-crossing Nigeria on the platform of the African Democratic Congress (ADC), but what was the main response to Utomi: "oh yes, he is a good candidate, but Nigeria is not ready for a good candidate yet."

While losing sleep over the US Presidential primaries, Nigerians should ask themselves these questions: when will Nigeria be ready for a good candidate? When are we going to start running campaigns that are issues and merit driven. The energy, the enthusiasm that is being devoted to Obamamania by the Nigerian Middle class should now be translated into sustained advocacy for the growth of democracy in Nigeria. There are Nigerians who claim that they contributed money to the Obama campaign fund. The same persons will be reluctant to put their money where their heart is in Nigeria. Obama's strongest message was one of possibility: Yes, we can. I will like to see young and old Nigerians stand up in the face of the rot in our lives and consider the option of change, unity and hope and say like Obama: yes, we can. It is through such faith that a Nigerian dream can be constructed.


http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/editorial_opinion/article02//indexn2_html?pdate=060608&ptitle=The%20Barack%20Obama%20phenomenon%20(2)

Maybe as we dey jollificate for Obama we can also ask ourselves when will Nigeria be ready for a good candidate
While we are at it we may also ask how, why not if not etc etc etc
Abi una don see Americanas wey get am for two heads or maybe 11/4 head
Or maybe dem dey ban us from reading the same books or attending the same schools wey dem dey go for learn these liberating theories
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by anonimi: 11:05am On Jun 06, 2008
adebisi1:

obama has made the entire black race happy, this gives us hope, faith and strenght, the black race is no longer inferior, we on the edge of producing the strongest man in the world.

I am obliged to point out that his winning had NOTHING to do with his being black rather you could say he won the nomination despite being labelled not-being-black-enough by those who see themselves as the real African-Americans. He has shown that you don't need to practice being black, whatever that really means, to be successful with blacks.
You only need to live your life efficiently as quite a number of whites and Asians do and a growing number of latinos and blacks are now realising is the way to go.
It is a question of having good values ingrained and disciplined above all things.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by EmekaNaija(m): 2:05pm On Jun 06, 2008
I wish i could see those nairalanders who wrote off Obama. Today, i hope many of them would swallow their words and savor in the true meaning of democracy. Guess the same guys would argue Obama cannot win the Presidency for whatever reasons. Watch out for Mcain's landslide loss. You heard it here first.

The day Obama came down to Sunrise, Florida, i was thrilled by the huge crowd that turned out to see him. Anyone who does not vote for Obama is truly unpatriotic, because anyone who sits and hears his message knows this is the natural leader we need at this point. He'll surely win Florida in November and go on to be the President. I feel sad whenever the guys is labelled black.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by Novacaine(m): 7:35pm On Jun 06, 2008
@EmekaNaija
He is about the smartest candidate i have seen in recent times i mean that guy speaks with so much intelligence he knows his onions and it would be injustice if he doesnt become the next president of the states
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by Horus(m): 12:04am On Jun 07, 2008
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by sleekp1: 1:12am On Jun 07, 2008
@ EmekaNaija
I wish i could see those nairalanders who wrote off Obama. Today, i hope many of them would swallow their words and savor in the true meaning of democracy.
I think Nairaland posse of Obama haters would hate Obama even more. Chances of them swallowing their words is remote.
Obama reminds them of their own color, its called self hate.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by MyTempID: 8:32am On Jun 07, 2008
@myTempID
hammerhead,
i have read quite a handful articles about hillary rodam Clinton and i was proud of her as a senator initially she did a good job in the health sector especially with health insurance companies but i was disappointed in her when i watched Micheal moors documentary (SICKO) about her role as a senator in national health reform initially she had a good fight with insurance firms like aetna, humana, united health, blue cross, hca, cigna etc.  republicans like rep Dick Armey(R-texas) had problems with her health reforms  but she stood her grounds giving affordable health care to the people  but unfortunately she was eventually silenced by collecting a bribe of $ 854462 just like the others eg. congress man billy Tauzin who eventually quite his job as a congress man of the united states to work for pharma another health insurance firm after being offered $2million.
she is going to be like another OBJ who when first started, began with good works by inaugurating panels e.g Oputa panel that will probe human right abuses and corrupt past leader but eventually did nothing and messed up in the end and even abused human rights e.g Odi village.

so dumb ass, when i argue i deal with facts & figures let her not come and bamboozle us with her health rubbish now.we are too smart for that and we are aware she has bleeped it up before by given the poor people hope and later dashing it out with a bribe

i guess you said it all along that women should stay in the kitchen where they belong and hillary i believe is no exception to that because she is a woman too.
Wow! What a fruit.  Don't come forth with speculations and opinions and attempt to disperse them as facts. Michael Moore cannot and will not take away from Hillary Clinton's accomplishments - either in the US. senate or as first lady.  Ask any politically well-informed person around (as clearly you're not) and they can tell you that Hillary Clinton has been fighting for the greater good of Americans all of her adult life.  She's had a profound impact on the lives of many with her tenacious involvement in healthcare. The silly fact that you choose to base your disqualifications of Mrs. Clinton's accomplishments on what Michael Moore or his conspiracy theory detailed is a showcasing of your stupidity and blockheadedness.  Meanwhile, if you bring forth some impressive facts we can further debunk your useless accusations.  Otherwise, it is completely foolish and meaningless to postulate over your gross hatred for Mrs. Clinton. There's no gain in continuing a bloated discussion with a weenie head who continues to make uninformed speculations ad nauseum.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by MyTempID: 8:40am On Jun 07, 2008
hey my mumu (FOOL) or is it my dullard friend. what has bush done to your so called economy so far since he got there? He has gone to war with it and killed Clinton good works.
and please foolish boy, stop claiming another country's economy we all know you are Nigerian and live in Nigeria,
Hisses,    stupid child
Dare you associate with a dullard?  On second thought, scratch that. You do. Your choice to associate with, and befriend, dullards is telling of the sort of friendships you keep.  But of course I'm not surprised to find that you do indeed have some dullards as friends: namely, but not limited to, ima1, sheniqua, or whomever else fits the list.  ima1 I must say is leaps and bounds ahead of the irreparable sheniqua. 

Anyways, excuse my deviation. First, I must say I'm almost amazed that you have finally decided to give the Clintons credit for some of their work. As for your other remarks: giggles.

you are just laughable clown to me.
if i belong from a village thank God its from this modern generation unlike you early man from the stone age,  homo habilis
The pre-mentioned laughable clown has continued to chip in with points you're yet to refute.  I'm not at the very least shocked that you've chosen to take the blow-hole route of scattering ad-hominems.  Your post is slightly more bearable than sheniqua's insult riddled posts.  Don't fault me for joining in while also maintaining my level head.  tongue
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by MyTempID: 8:54am On Jun 07, 2008
Playing catch up in the middle of the night is certainly interesting.


I wrote:
I doubt she needs you to tell her how or when to end her campaign. You would have advised her to curse her way out of it like you commonly do.

you wrote:

lol what do u think she is doing now, if you are going to say something please make sense eh

Clearly YOU need to make sense.  Yes, Hillary will end her campaign, but not because YOU asked her to.  Did you write her a personal letter, send her an e-mail, phone her, or inform her through some invisible intermediary? Obviously not.  Dummy.

Ibime wrote:
MyTempID, please take your Obama-hating elsewhere. Nobody wants to hear it. Kudos to Obama for winning the ticket but I think he needs to make Hillary his running mate to heal some of the divisions.
Ibime, please, before you come out of the ropes flailing like a be-headed chicken get the message right.  When I have addressed Obama in my posts, though it may seem like I'm bashing or hating to some of you, I made sure I presented my opinions on him with some properly developed information I collected or facts I gathered about his overall experience.  As is usually the case when defending one person over another, it may appear that I am hating but I actually am not.  If you think I am then do present the post and we can analyze it in its entirety. I might have been harsh, but in no way can you misconstrue that as "hate".
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by MyTempID: 9:19am On Jun 07, 2008
Sisikill:

Good Lord! How can you type this with a straight face when the first post from you on this thread was insults-riddled? By your own admission, you were lurking, waiting for the first chance to jump on the person your post directed to and then you don't stop there. . .You take it further by insulting everyone whose opinion differs from yours. If they shower themselves in insulting-lingo, then you sir soak yourself in it.
Double sigh! Another short-sighted defender of the universe.

My first post was in response to this:
Hillary is so stubborn and a freakin bitch, thank God she didn't win because after playing dirty n thinking she is entitled to be president because both bush (father and son) were president, come on Obama beat her fair and square, i just don't see why she wouldn't conceede,

its so funny on CNN someone said if Obama picks clinton as his vice president he better get a food taster, i think she is plain evil and crazy, thank God i switched to Obama, clinton is such a sore loser, i think she is angry she lost to a black man. i wouldn't be surprised if she is racist inside.

And, I wrote this in response:

Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.  One can usually tell how clean or dirty your asshole is by the kind of opinions you express.

Nothing in your statement is a fact.  You're just ranting and raving, biasedly criticizing the woman as if she stole your soul.  All the useless information you typed up there makes YOU look like the bitch.  You're not the kind of representative Obama needs.  Just another black woman playing the race card.

So to answer your question, Sisikill, I guess I typed it with as much of a straight face as you used in typing yours.  I mean, like seriously, did you really think you could get away with that without me catching it?  My response was not only justified, it is to be met with an applause.  But, i guess since this thread is synagogued by Obama-loving-democrats, you found it hard to induce good judgement in attempting to single me out.  Come on, do the rays bouncing off your assessment mirror deflect in more than one direction, or have you only been taught to be biased in assessing rudimental arguments?  If I sir-soak myself in insultive-lingo, then you must definitely immerse yourself in complete insincerity.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by MyTempID: 9:29am On Jun 07, 2008
kaypound wrote:
LMAO
Nah, that will be disastrous for Ima1, she is way too smart for him and will not be able to add anything to her life
A smart person, let alone one that's too smart, (as you call it) can always figure ways to add stuff to his or her life.
I guess you're not very smart for not realizing this.  Keep partying in your foolishness. It suits you.


I told you people his brain matter is filled with chivita juice and ogi
You'd think he'll finally get it .
And yours is filled with jargonized childish rhetoric.  Hmm, I guess you're no better.


I am obliged to point out that his winning had NOTHING to do with his being black
Dearly delusioned. You really don't know what you're talking about since this is pure trash.  I guess you think you know something the experts (who devote a large amount of their time to doing this) don't.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by Nobody: 10:52am On Jun 07, 2008
MyTempID:

Dearly delusioned. You really don't know what you're talking about since this is pure trash.  I guess you think you know something the experts (who devote a large amount of their time to doing this) don't.
Sir, could you tell us the opinion of this "expert" of yours. And if you are that expert, lets know your opinion. This is the only time in the history of America when people have been able to see beyond color. For people like you out there with expert idea or indeed theory, we'll love to hear what it is. I have this feelings that if (and indeed he will win) Obama wins, you will simply commit suicide grin
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by mystikal(m): 10:15pm On Jun 07, 2008
in as much i understand the love and support for Obama here, the bad mothing of Hilary really sucks

She ran an impressive campaign as a woman, and came marginally close. she has 18 million voters loyal 2 her. her place in history of US national politics is secured.

obama hailed her as a ''brave woman", and i wonder y some of you his supporters seem to bash her.

the Clinton's have always campaigned for a better America where one day an african american would be president, guess they never realised it was going 2 be under their watch, but really the Clintons have the American's best interest at heart, they've always done that.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by nijerd: 12:04am On Jun 08, 2008
This historic Obama win is worth celebrating. I am so glad for the breath of fresh air- at least, we can have someone whose father or wife(apologies to the Bushes and Clintons ) has not been part of the problems hereto.
I'm also glad that good planning has triumphed over big names and clout. My joy will know no bounds when the "young" Obama helps nail the coffin of the "old order" by sinking McCain.
Once again , I congratulate America!
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by MyTempID: 2:40am On Jun 08, 2008
nijerd:

This historic Obama win is worth celebrating. I am so glad for the breath of fresh air- at least, we can have someone whose father or wife(apologies to the Bushes and Clintons ) has not been part of the problems hereto.
I'm also glad that good planning has triumphed over big names and clout. My joy will know no bounds when the "young" Obama helps nail the coffin of the "old order" by sinking McCain.
Once again , I congratulate America!
Thanks for speaking with common sense.  The same can't be said for some of our other posters.

naijamark:

Sir, could you tell us the opinion of this "expert" of yours. And if you are that expert, lets know your opinion. This is the only time in the history of America when people have been able to see beyond color. For people like you out there with expert idea or indeed theory, we'll love to hear what it is. I have this feelings that if (and indeed he will win) Obama wins, you will simply commit suicide grin
Don't be so ridiculous.  Only stupidity will cause you to profess that Obama being black had absolutely 'NOTHING' to do with his nomination.  Tsk! Tsk! I guess the overwhelming black votes he received was just a coincidence.  In as much as it is difficult to find resources for some of the spoken words on TV (by these experts), I will provide you with links to  polls where blacks catapulted Obama to victory over Clinton.  To be candid, the better candidate won (in the eyes of many), and he was Obama and he has the delegates to back it up, there's no denying this.   Obama won. He earned and deserved it.  He is an excellent persuasive speaker. Although, in my opinion at least, he is nothing more than a glorified used car salesman.  Had both candidates ran in different years, these same pea-brained Hillary bashers would be the first to support her on the basis that she's a woman.



http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/06/exit-polling-shows-wright-controversy-economy-matter-to-indiana-north-carolina-voters/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22859978/
more, more, more more and then some more.

Now, I would love to continue digging out sources to validate this point, but instead I'll ease up and ask you ton consult google.  To say that Obama's being black has not helped him during this election is denial at its peak.

Further, before you attempt to stupefy my post keep in mind that I am not saying Obama won because he's black. All I said is, it definitely didn't hurt that he got close to 80-90 percent of the black votes.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by TCUBE(m): 11:25am On Jun 08, 2008
president barack obama
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by Horus(m): 3:38pm On Jun 08, 2008
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by sleekp1: 7:00pm On Jun 08, 2008
In a couple of months we will have da first black president of the worllllllllld Ha ha ha.
There's nothing you can do bout it so ha.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by TmeD0(m): 5:54am On Jun 09, 2008
sleek_p:

In a couple of months we will have da first black president of the worllllllllld Ha ha ha.
There's nothing you can do bout it so ha.
una no go kill me for this nairaland sef. one fact wey all of una obamamaniacs seem to dey forget be say the bobo na bi-racial o. all this media hype for obodo america na just to confuse una make una think say una go eventually get a black presido. the bobo is equally white as he's black, so make una no too dey jolly o. i laff the other day wey i hear for news when hin surpass the needed delegates for the nomination and people for Kenya wey A.P. bin interview dey happy say them proud of him as a Kenyan. abeg, make somebody help me tell hin people dia say oga Obama na yanky first o and evreything else na secondary.

anyway sha, me i no go too talk for hia because all of una obamamaniacs in as much as some una seem intelligent have failed to see the true issue about this bobo. at least with clinton, pesin know wetin hin go get if to say she win, which is one of the reasons she no make am (thank God) but with oga Obama, noone knows what is expected and with all the comma and semicolon wey dey with Obama na hin make am scary. sha, imo neither Obama nor McCain is what yanky need right now because na just minute difference dey between them; only be say McCain na lesser of the two evil (sort of). on a final note, make una mark baba Ijebu's words: if una oga Obama win, if them no try yamutu am na small e go remain. una don forget JFK and MLK? wetin dem get in common? go figure. And na the closest to dudu presido wey yanky go get be that. Peace!
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by JayFK(m): 9:08am On Jun 09, 2008
People who vote for Obama because he is black are racist.
Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination by MyTempID: 9:11am On Jun 09, 2008
That. And, many of those who vote for Obama on the basis that he is black fail to realize that he is no more black than he is white.    They are plentiful on this thread. You hear them say things along the lines of, "Obama has made my dreams come true, he has shown that blacks are equals, he has sugared their tea and buttered their bread." They have allowed political racism to cloud their reasoning.  It should go without saying that they suffer from inferiority complex.

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