oloriooko: so many babblers on this forum, why don't you start your own church and show them how to run it!
stop hating and start acting!

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ProPastorChris: @ mr frosbel,

you lack spiritual understanding and training.
your post depicts your shallow understanding of spiritual truth and it shows your deep craving for material wealth.
if you know what you are trying to say, your approach would have been different and purposeful.
seem, you always look for topics that can bring you to the frontpage at same time deceive many with your evil machinations of protecting the church while actually you are an agent from the pit of hell to destroy the church from within.
you have failed and your actions will not only put you in serious trouble but your future generations will also actively partake of your demonic acts.
better you repent, pray for the church instead of trying to destroy it cos no human can bring down the Church of Jesus Christ.

okpara ugo:

It means you lack a good knowledge of your bible. At the time when followers of Christ were first called Christians at Antioch, church donations were meant for taking care of the poor believers and not for the consumption of preachers...

Paul himself was a tent maker/builder by practice and a lawyer by profession...

I baffle at billionaire men of God asking in my mind.. Who do they imitate

frosbel:

Point of correction based on TRUTH and CONTEXT Sir.

Scenario 1 : Moses was not at fault.

Korah and co brought up their accusations against Moses :

"Now Korah the son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, with Dathan and Abiram the sons of Eliab, and On the son of Peleth, sons of Reuben, took men; and they rose up before Moses with some of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty leaders of the congregation, representatives of the congregation, men of renown. They gathered together against Moses and Aaron, and said to them, “You take too much upon yourselves, for all the congregation is holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them. Why then do you exalt yourselves above the assembly of the LORD?” - Numbers 16:1-3

Note the following :

- Koarh and Team knew that GOD had called Moses himself , after all the miracles and mighty deliverance. Moses was a very humble and God fearing MAN.

Same cannot be said of so many MOG today, especially those who slap small girls and bully wives and mothers to go against their husbands. Many so called MOG stink of narcissism and arrogance.


- Korah and Team rebelled against the authority of GOD which HE imbued on Moses and thus rebelled against God himself.

Many so called MOG do not know God talk less of having his authority.


- They falsely accused him of exalting himself , even though God testified that Moses was the meekest MAN on the earth

Korah and Team were not content with their estate and wanted to usurp the position of Moses , just like many MOG usurp the place of Christ in the church.


Fact : Moses was not at fault.





Scenario 2 - Again , contrary to your analysis, Moses was not at fault, he was opposed because he married a black woman.

"12 Miriam and Aaron began to talk against Moses because of his Cushite wife, for he had married a Cushite. 2 “Has the Lord spoken only through Moses?” they asked. “Hasn’t he also spoken through us?” And the Lord heard this.

3 (Now Moses was a very humble man, more humble than anyone else on the face of the earth.)

4 At once the Lord said to Moses, Aaron and Miriam, “Come out to the tent of meeting, all three of you.” So the three of them went out. 5 Then the Lord came down in a pillar of cloud; he stood at the entrance to the tent and summoned Aaron and Miriam. When the two of them stepped forward, " - Numbers 12:1-5

Fact : Moses was not at fault.






Get your facts right before you issue empty threats.

One Love and Peace Bro.

idnoble135:
Lol... I issue threats? Smh.
Like i said, on the two occasions, *looking from their angle*, Moses was at fault. To them, their accusation was right. The Lord never said they lied. So it was reality.
I already know what to expect from you.
But i saw you quoted half post. That suggests to me that you got my intended message. Its well.

iamdsam: The one I hate most is the sowing of seed. I never indulge in it. I prefer giving that money to the poor dying in need of it. As for tithes, I also do same. Their children are abroad while church members which are poor can't take their children to school or maybe struggle hard almost to the point of death before they can get the fund to take their children through school. They build universities which only rich people can afford taking their children to while the children of the poor members of their church can't afford. They don't even bother to give schoolarship the children of the poor members. They waste millions building auditoriums which would not add anything to the life of members suffering but instead add more money to their pockets. They share and sell expensive books and handouts even when they see people suffering nearby which this money can help or even change their life forever. They keep building more branch of churches when they can use such money to empower the poor or even the youths without job that are suffering and lingering about. They drive the most expensive cars even when their members don't even have clothes to put on. They build expensive mansions even when their members don't have a place to rest their head. They criticize youths that have indulged in criminal activities even when they don't bother to give any a job. Prophet T.B. Joshua is the only exception. He's the only man of God that has been able to help the poor which others have ignored. He has helped to restore back the life of youths that have been criminals. He has given hope to the hopeless. He has done so much for the less priviledged. These few examples of what he has done are part of the reasons why most of these jet loving, uncaring, greedy and jealous pastors and men of whatever hate him. He did not buy a let because he knows that somebody is suffering nearby and needs help. How many of these greedy pastors can give away their car as a gift to the less priviledged How many of them can sponsor the child of a poor man to the university who merits it I'll continue to respect you everyday of my life. You're a role model worth following @ Prophet T.B. Joshua. God will continue to prosper you and give you long life as you continue to help mankind. I'll also try to play my own quota. God bless you and I love you @ Prophet T.B. Joshua. Let Love Lead!

frosbel:


I hate long posts, make it short next time,

acidosis™:


*yawn*

Pay or no pay, it doesn't change the power of tithe, offering and seeds..

frosbel: ^

Well said !

peppy luv: I always knew u opened ur market sori church and u tot u cud win customers by insulting urself not catholics but when they didn't show up,u turned around to face ur fellow marketers who took away ur customers!

*akpa amu nkita di ka gi! Ewu *

acidosis™:


Mr Catholic..

F00lish Man

Your Reverend father will die of hunger if you fail to pay your due..

Oya go and knee down before your father

acidosis™:
Genesis 14: 20; (Hebrews 7:2)
gave him tithes of all.

Genesis 28: 22
"I will surely give the tenth unto thee.

Leviticus 27: 30
"tithe of the land . . . is holy unto the Lord."

Number 18: 26
"for the Lord, even a tenth part of the tithe.

Deuteronomy 12: 6
"your tithes, and heave offerings."

Deuteronomy 14: 22 (Deut. 26: 12)
"tithe all the increase of thy seed."

2 Chronicles 31: 5 [/b]
"tithe of all things brought they in abundantly." [/b]

Nehemiah 10: 38
Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes.

Nehemiah 12: 44
"for the treasures, to gather.

Nehemiah 13: 12
"brought all Judah the tithe of the corn."

Malachi 3: 8
"Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings."

So Who are you to tell me not to pay my tithes??

Matthew 23: 23
"tithe of mint and anise and cummin."

Luke 18: 12
I give tithes of all that I possess.

acidosis™:
Genesis 14: 20; (Hebrews 7:2)
gave him tithes of all.

Genesis 28: 22
"I will surely give the tenth unto thee.

Leviticus 27: 30
"tithe of the land . . . is holy unto the Lord."

Number 18: 26
"for the Lord, even a tenth part of the tithe.

Deuteronomy 12: 6
"your tithes, and heave offerings."

Deuteronomy 14: 22 (Deut. 26: 12)
"tithe all the increase of thy seed."

2 Chronicles 31: 5 [/b]
"tithe of all things brought they in abundantly." [/b]

Nehemiah 10: 38
Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes.

Nehemiah 12: 44
"for the treasures, to gather.

Nehemiah 13: 12
"brought all Judah the tithe of the corn."

Malachi 3: 8
"Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings."

Matthew 23: 23
"tithe of mint and anise and cummin."

Luke 18: 12
I give tithes of all that I possess.




So Who are you to tell me not to pay my tithes??

Are you the new agent lucifer sent to deceive people??

peppy luv: I always knew u opened ur market sori church and u tot u cud win customers by insulting urself not catholics but when they didn't show up,u turned around to face ur fellow marketers who took away ur customers!

*akpa amu nkita di ka gi! Ewu *

peppy luv: Ezi!! face ur fellow protestants and leave d catholics out of it

danot1030: @truthman2012, It is requir in stewards dat a man be faithful 1cor.4:2. wher is ur loyalty, wont it be beta u leav d church dan suport d agents of satan out 2 castigate d church? go n read Ish.60:5-16 n 61:5-6 1Cor.9:7-14 n c God's plan 4 his church.

ProPastorChris: @ frosbel

[size=28pt]i need immediate answers to these simple questios:[/size]

[size=38pt]do you think these men of God you mentioned are unqualified to be called such?
do you think you can do a better job than they are doing right now?
do you run a church or ministry by yourself?[/size]

Pastor Kun:

Yes it is the pastor's duty. In case you don't know pastor means shepherd, it is the shepherd's duty to take care of the flock and not just milk them. Any pastor that doesn't know this is not worth being called a pastor. Also if you read your bible well, church collections in the early church was always used to take care of the needy in the church. That is the example our pastors ought to follow.

jarsofclay: @frosbel
shame on you for speaking evil of men of God. shame on you for not esteeming the anointing of God on pastors. shame on you for allowing the devil to get a hold of your mind and using you so cheaply. don't tell me u are a wolf in sheep's clothing. you call jesus but yet reject the very gospel he came to preach. having a form of godliness bt denying the power of it. my brother, my prayer 4 u is that God Almight whom u profess will open ur understandin and make u know and understand the mysteries of the kingdom of God cos you don't. in d mean time, i recommend you back to God n to the word of his grace because on dat day many like you wil say lord, lord, hav we not in your name.... i do not want ur story to be like that. spend more time studying the Worm n wealth, riches, paying tithe, flying jet wil not be a mystery to you or even elude you. many like you are often very poor. a rich man wud av no issue when money is called. der re 2 piple in d world:d avs and d avs-not so pls spare me your ungodly gospel