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Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by dalhat14(m): 2:25pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
owolabifunke14: Doctors should consider the stress mothers passes through during gestation perioddoctors are not on strike, other health workers are. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by Nobody: 2:48pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
moscobabs: what a bad Nation..I feel not to go back to Nigeria Again Come back to where! When more pple are vacating? Anyway, u can com bak if u want to die b4 ur time. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by Nobody: 2:51pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
234GT: This could be blessing in disguise for some of those babies. Its better to return to heaven than....... Staying alive to become citizens of this epileptic nation |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by Dbeliever(m): 2:52pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
Atleast skeletal service be given for goodness sake. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by onagoodday1: 2:55pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
malele: my brother,the strike is not really about money or salaries but mainly for professionalism and separation of duties along the lines of professional qualification,people are fighting to free themselves from the strangulating clutch of medical doctors,people/workers feel that what we run in nigeria is the ministry of doctors and not ministry of health,the medical doctors feels that a lab scientist who through his duty comfirms diagnosis before a doctor could commence treatment is not a professional after five years of education,the ministry of health feels no other person is qualified to head an hospital (an administrative post) except a medical doctor,the medical doctors feels that a clinical pharmacist is not competent enough to prescribe a drug,advice him on drug use etc,the minister of health is a medical doctor and he foolishly thinks a medical doctor is a mr know it all,the disharmony in the health sector is orchestrated by dr ransom kuti and sustained by NMA, The workers feels that as a profesional,they should be allowed to do their job,and what is due to them should be given to them,how can a medical doctor feel he/she can do without the the nurse,if you see the way and manner they order nurses around,you will feel for them, my dear when and anytime the president and the minister of health ensure that everyone does their work according to their professional inclination and compensated as such,then this sort of strike will be a thing of the past. 1 Like |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by Chimdim: 3:01pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
God pls come to our aid and touch them to save innocent ones |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by enny09: 3:06pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
armadeo:HEALTH STRIKE: FG CONFUSED BY COURT RULING August 22, 2013 by | Filed in news | No comments Federal government did not implement the ruling of the National Industrial Court into its long-running dispute with health workers because it found the court’s ruling on two major issues “confusing”, said health minister, Onyebuchi Chukwu. But health workers said the ministry agreed to abide by the ruling even before going to court and that reneging showed no respect for rule of law. The Federal Ministry of Health, embroiled in industrial dispute with the Joint Health Sector Unions, appealed the court’s ruling early August on the advice of its legal counsel. “The memo [from the counsel to the FMOH legal unit to the minister] suggested the minister should allow an appeal by government on the grounds that the judgement was confusing,” said Chukwu Thursday afternoon, hours after support staff in federal government-run hospitals went on strike. According to Chukwu, the major confusion in the ten-point agreement reached between both sides since May 2012 is the union’s insistence on skipping (allowing workers in line to promotion to principal officials to skip CONHESS 10) and extending the designation of consultants to others outside the medical profession in hospitals. The ministry expected the court to decide whether government policy ruling skipping in any state establishment was right or wrong, said the minister. “But the court said because they had been skipping before, what government should have done was to negotiate with them.” The court also ruled government held prerogative to designate consultants outside federal hospitals, but that “people who had been previously given that [appointment] in error or not should be allowed to enjoy. On designating consultants outside federal hospitals, said the minister, the court ruled appointing consultants was a federal government prerogative but said existing appointees should be allowed to remain in position, while the move is halted. “It is a bit confusing,” said Chukwu. “Where the court has agreed it is wrong for anybody outside the ministry of health to answer consultant, but if an error has occured by any agent of the ministry, they should allow that. It is a bit confusing too.” Chukwu said government counsel have served appeal papers on JOHESU but the union said it categorically received none. It said FMOH contravened a collective bargain agreement both sides reached before the dispute went to court at the request of the labour ministry. JOHESU president, Dr Ayuba Wabba, said four of the 10-point agreement went to court because the ministry decided it could not implement them and wanted the court to “adjudicate on it. And they agreed that whatever is the pronouncement of the court, they are going to respect it.” He said none of the contents of the agreement had been implemented, and that filing an appeal was “not a stay on execution” to stop implementation of the agreements. Hours after the strike started on Wednesday midnight, the ministry said it was ready to meet with JOHESU as early as Monday to deliberate on ways of ending the current impasse. Chukwu said he was still “waiting for them [JOHESU] to accept the date.” JOHESU—an umbrella body of nurses, midwives, allied health professionals in hospitals and other tertiary institutions—said it was “open to discussion.” Meanwhile, hospital activities slowed as support staff abandoned duty. Correspondents visiting University of Abuja Teaching Hospital saw doctors attending to patients but nursing stations were deserted and patients had to go outside hospital premises to buy drugs on prescription. Nigerian Medical Association told its members to remain on duty to guarantee “uninterrupted services” and urged hospital chiefs to ensure “adequate security.” |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by enny09: 3:09pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
armadeo:Health workers begin strike on August 21, 2013 vanguard By Sola Ogundipe & Victoria Ojeme DARK clouds have gathered over the fortunes of the health sector yet again as workers of all Federal tertiary health institutions nationwide, under Joint Health Sector Unions will embark on an indefinite strike from 12 midnight today. In a statement issued yesterday, the unions noted that the strike was called at the expiration of a 21-day ultimatum issued to government on the August 1, to accede to the 10-point demand and agreements reached on May 10, 2012. The statement was signed by National President and Secretary-General, Medical & Health Workers’ Union of Nigeria, Mr. Ayuba Wabba, and Mr. Marcus Omokhuale, respectively; National President, National Association of Universities, Teaching Hospitals, Research Institutes and Association Institution, Mr. Adeniji A. and the Ag. General Secretary, National Association of Nigeria Nurses and Midwives, Mr. Yusuf Badmus W. It said members of the unions at the states and local governments health facilities are expected to join the strike as from 12 midnight by August 28. Recalling the events that led to the current face- off, the unions pointed out that at a meeting called by the Minister of Labour and Productivity on Monday, August 19, neither the Minister of Health nor his representative attended the meeting. They also recalled an earlier meeting, where it was resolved that items agreed upon required the action of the Ministry of Health on or before May 29, 2012, to allow the Technical Working Group commence its sitting. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by enny09: 3:12pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
armadeo:1. As a result of the obvious unwillingness of the Federal Ministry of Health to obey and comply with the judgement of the National Industrial Court of Nigeria (NICN) regarding the withdrawal of the obnoxious Non-skipping of CONHESS 10 Circular; Consultants/Specialists allowance circular and non-implementation of the 2009 Collectively bargained agreement as enshrined in the CONHESS Circular, the Joint Health Sector Unions have resolved to embark on an idefinite and comprehensive industrial action to press home our demands. 2. The Hon. Minister of Health has refused to respond to the 21-day Ultimatum earlier submitted to him by the Unions and the Assembly of Healthcare Professional Associations. Neither the Minister nor the his officials attended the mediation meeting surmoned by the Hon. Minister of Labour & Productivity yesterday to address the issues raised by labour in the ultimatum. 3. The continued violation of statutory schemes of service and collectively bargainged and signed agreement by the authorities in the FMOH and hospitals in Nigeria will no longer be tolerated. It has therefore become imperative that we have no choice than to withdraw services to press home our demands in line with the strike directive by the Joint Health Sector Unions (JOHESU). |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by kleenUch: 3:15pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
If any sector will go on strike at least not health. I weep for my country. God heals. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by holuwarlay08(m): 3:37pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
Omo See Gobe............................. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by virie: 3:52pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
For starters doctors are working nationwide..neither are doctors lording it over other health workers, lab scientists/pharmacists dont own hospitals they own pharmacies and laboratories..it doesnt make sense for either to head a hospital since doctors own hospitals. As regards the lab scientists confirming a diagnosis doctors can arrive at a diagnosis without lab results on most occasions...we are waiting on the appeal court ruling..in the meanwhile sick people can come to the hospitals jooo.. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by enny09: 4:01pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
virie: For starters doctors are working nationwide..neither are doctors lording it over other health workers, lab scientists/pharmacists dont own hospitals they own pharmacies and laboratories..it doesnt make sense for either to head a hospital since doctors own hospitals.Is Doctors the only professional working in an hispital, so how can you said the Doctors own the hospital, he who think he knows all is a fool, the hospital can only be manage by an HEALTH ADMINISTRATORS, tell me what a Doctor knows about administration of an Establishment, when a Doctor is suppose to take care of his/ her patients. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by virie: 4:16pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
enny09:your very funny to say the least..in the private sector do you hear of doctors running pharmacies or laboratories..I'm sure your answer is no..neither do you see the pharmacists or other health professionals being in charge of hospitals..well if want to run hospitals get the laws changed then.. the public sector is a mirror image of the private sector..besides Nigeria is no different from most other countries ..where the system operates as it is currently...if e dey pain u too much go read medicine okay..berra still be civil and await the appeal court ruling. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by Hearme(m): 4:27pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
malele: If u don't like ur work, u resign and look for another one, while close a hospital because dey didn't increase ur wage. its now their turn to react to government not honoring agreement. For those criticizing ASUU this is just to let you know that there are several agreements not honored by government. Next will be the Resident doctors. Same reason it took government so long to privatize PHCN is because of the way NITEL staff were treated. When will the ruling class ever learn? I'm suspecting oil increment very soon. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by enny09: 4:36pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
virie:Your problem is that you dont know the differnce between administration and medical, we have people who study aministration and understand how administration should be run, pharmacist or med. lab. scientist are not saying they want to run the a hospital, they are only saying dont put an accountant to replace a pilot to drive a plane, go to UK, you will underatand who an health administrators, |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by Divinetouch(m): 4:37pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
owolabifunke14: Doctors should consider the stress mothers passes through during gestation period doctors are not on strike. only pharmacists,nurses,imaging scientist, physiotherapists, lab scientists etc are on strike. The truth is dat d doctors cannot do without these ppl. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by virie: 4:41pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
enny09:...guy dis ur English sef!! enny09:...guy dis ur English sef!! |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by enny09: 5:03pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
[quote author=virie] ...guy dis ur English sef!! ...guy dis ur English sef!![/qu English Man, dats the truth, the fact that many things are wrong in this country does not mean everyone should keep quiet, if a doctor kill a patient due to his negligence, who will investigate him, when doctors are the head of a hospitals, even madman will never rope himself when guilty |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by Nobody: 5:05pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
Symphony007: healthcare is humanitarian? So the workers don't have farmilies to fend for? Bill to pay? Lives to live? Go find out what better nations pay first responders and health care personels. And the workers did'nt just go on strike, the sue the government and won, yet the govt. Refused to honour the terms. Reconciliation meeting were called and the govt. Ignored them. What do you expert? Don't you see anything wrong in a politician earning millions and a nurse earning peanuts? A price must be paid for change.How would you feel if your child is that price?. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by onagoodday1: 5:31pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
virie: For starters doctors are working nationwide..neither are doctors lording it over other health workers, lab scientists/pharmacists dont own hospitals they own pharmacies and laboratories..it doesnt make sense for either to head a hospital since doctors own hospitals. so the labs and the pharmacies in the hospital are owned by the doctors,imagine how u displayed your ignorance by saying that doctors due arrive @ most diagnosis without scientific investigation,this is how you have turned our hospital into abatoirs,the earlier doctors leave health helm of affairs the better for us all..nonsense!!! 1 Like |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by enny09: 5:35pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
honey86:what you dont understand is that a graduate who is professional in is own field i.e pharmacist, med. lab. scientist are been oppress while discharging dia duty by another professional i.e Doctor, and you expect them to keep working under such condition, in dia own country. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by onagoodday1: 5:36pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
honey86: Prof onyebuchi should be the price that must be paid |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by onagoodday1: 5:38pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
enny09: My brother help me askam o |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by abugbe(m): 5:43pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
The destiny of dis country is only in the hands of GOD. Imagine Great country, Great Nation, Gaint of Africa, Gaint of problems surround us. GOD please come to our rescure. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by shynbritly: 5:49pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
Strike! Strike! Strike. This is to notify the general public that the services of medical Doctors are no longer needed in this country. Nurses pls Tek Over. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by onagoodday1: 5:58pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
shynbritly: Strike! Strike! Strike. gbam!!!! |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by enny09: 6:05pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
virie:we have politicized everything in nigeria instead of letting professional handle things, look what we have turn our health sector into, a reasonable person know that when only doctors said something is right and all other professonal in health sector i.e pharmacist, med. lab. scientist, nursing, physiotherapy, Dietician and so on said something is not right, then we all know people who are afraid of change for the best of the patients due to dia selfish intrest. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by virie: 6:08pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
on a good day:. you are obviously very ignorant..diagnosis is clinical in most instances that doesn't rule out lab work ..I'm sure you work in one of those abattoirs you talked about..it's obvious your grouse is against doctors not necessarily because you want a better health sector..stop the beef...doctors aren't anti-other health affiliates.. |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by enny09: 6:10pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
virie: |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by enny09: 6:22pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
virie: .if doctors aren't anti-other health professionals y is every professional in the health sector saying thesame thing, atleast one out of all d professional should have come out and defend the Doctors |
Re: Premature Babies Abandoned At Makurdi Federal Medical Center Due To Strike by Nobody: 6:29pm On Aug 23, 2013 |
on a good day:10000 LIKES...IMAGINE THE FORMER CMD OF LUTH TELLING NURSES IN 2003 DAT PATIENTS BELONG ONLY TO THE DOCTORS..THERE SHULD BE RESPECT OF INDIVIDUAL PROFESIONALISM 1 Like |
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