Lady M:

is easy said than done oooooo.

we all that believe in tithing shld always say d truth n let d devil be put to same abeg haba sm people re quoting d bible meanwhile, they might be owing God oh in d sense nt be faithful in their tithing.

my dear your qus is quite challenging, is nt easy bt d truth of d matter to me i stand  to be corrected, that most time d challenge of debt will make u owe God before u knw it, d whole moni is gone.

the answ is discipline. we ought to discipline ourselves, put God first in every little n big issues of our lives. We re nt suppose to owe God because He alone provided d job, or rather d means of your income, so u av to show love as well when giving or paying your tithe.

and it is nt about giving for you to recieve no this is nt calocalo thing or gambling atall. if u truely love God u will give nt minding infact you tend ot give more than necessary because of d love n your level of relationship wit God.

e.g a guy or probably most men that knw d value of a woman will go out of his way to give to d wife or galfriend, jus tto make her happy n feel special  same to me wit your love 4 God during your hr of tithing.  what u love most is d uppermost thing in your mind come rain come sunshine. n this is God we re talking about that never fails. He gave us d gift of life n strength plus d wisdom n ability to make such income,

so is all about your relationship wit God n hw much discipline we d xtains that believe in it hold most.

personally am struggling wit it praying hard that God shld please help me to be more faithful in tithing. never to skip any month.

tnx

KunleOshob:

As i have always said the church owes the congregation the truth and that is what i stand on. For people who are new to this topic i recomend for reading Deut 14 : 22-29, leviticus 27: 30-34, numbers 18: 25-32, deut 26: 12-15 and Hebrews 7 : 5-15  

Cashmoni:

Why is thiswho can we say is from God when all around we have fake pastors,what makes you so sure that your pastor is from God?

detruth:

@Kunle
You are only full of letters which kills; only the spirit of the Word gives life. The Spirit is the only true interpreter of the scriptures and not your head.

JeSoul:

BUT we see in the new covenant (though not explicitly stated) that though tithing is not a requirement, it would become a practice that would flow naturally from our new freedom in Christ.

1Cor 9 teaches that those who work in the ministry should make a living from the ministry. Also we see Paul asking the believers to keep aside a portion of their earnings to give to the poor.

God's way are not our ways.Bible says:'while men slept the enemy came and sow tares, '.satan can strike any how but the lord who is faithful would not allow the righteous to suffer.Read the scriptures below and see one of the ways that God moved on behalf of a woman.
2 Kings 4
1 Now there cried a certain woman of the wives of the sons of the prophets unto Elisha, saying, Thy servant my husband is dead; and thou knowest that thy servant did fear the LORD: and the creditor is come to take unto him my two sons to be bondmen.
2 And Elisha said unto her, What shall I do for thee? tell me, what hast thou in the house? And she said, Thine handmaid hath not any thing in the house, save a pot of oil.
3 Then he said, Go, borrow thee vessels abroad of all thy neighbours, even empty vessels; borrow not a few.
4 And when thou art come in, thou shalt shut the door upon thee and upon thy sons, and shalt pour out into all those vessels, and thou shalt set aside that which is full.
5 So she went from him, and shut the door upon her and upon her sons, who brought the vessels to her; and she poured out.
6 And it came to pass, when the vessels were full, that she said unto her son, Bring me yet a vessel. And he said unto her, There is not a vessel more. And the oil stayed.
7 Then she came and told the man of God. And he said, Go, sell the oil, and pay thy debt, and live thou and thy children of the rest.
GOD IS FAITHFUL,PAY YOUR TITHE AS AT WHEN DUE,YOU WILL NEVER REGRET IT.

anonimi:

Can you explain or point out where in the new convenant you are seeing tithing which is explicitly BANNED (Hebrews 7:1-11) again flowing naturally please?

Have you heard of Pharisees and scribes passing the traditions of men off as doctrine

   we see in the new covenant (though not explicitly stated) that though tithing is not a requirement, it would become a practice that would flow naturally from our new freedom in Christ. I believe it is not explicitly stated in the NT because God now wants our giving to be from out of our hearts, as a willful act of worship - not for us to do it out of obligation or rule or law.

  1Cor 9 teaches that those who work in the ministry should make a living from the ministry. Also we see Paul asking the believers to keep aside a portion of their earnings to give to the poor
It is no longer a requirement, but the spirit of the practice is still very much alive. As it was even before the Law was instituted- we see Abraham paid tithes even before the Law was, now how much more after the Law has been? how much more after the incredible sacrifice we've received should our thankfulness even overflow more?

JeSoul:

If everyone in a church decided to stop giving in order to pay for other things, how is the church supposed to survive? [/b]

fotodaddy:


Father, help people understand that your church's survival is not dependent on their giving tithe or offering!!!


Father ARE YOU THE IMPOTENT GOD!!!!!

YOUR CHURCH CANNOT SURVIVE BECAUSE PEOPLE STOP GIVING!!!!!

INSULT TO MY GOD!!!!!

anonimi:

Have you read Acts and the Epistles of Paul comprehensively to see IF he asked for or received tithes
No, my sister, he was given gifts and offerings from time to time without asking but yet thanking the givers. That is the standard of true CHRISTians, whether leaders or followers- no matter the claimed level of annointing and wonders.

JeSoul:

The poster is talking about completely suspending any giving to God in order to pay off debts, that will be wrong. If everyone in a church decided to stop giving in order to pay for other things, how is the church supposed to survive? However we give as we can, we give as God has given and enabled us. Some can give more, others less, the important thing is to still give!

fotodaddy:

MOST HOLY BRETHREN JESOUL, Your statement speaks for itself.

I am not quoting you out of context. You made this statement to justify tithing and giving of offering.

MY GOD DOES NOT NEED YOUR TITHE AND OFFERING FOR HIS CHURCH TO SURVIVE. Take it or leave it. The cows on a thousand hills are His.

Stop wallowing in pride and admit you made a mistake and change your post to say exactly what you are trying to communicate. Christians are not the only ones who read these threads and your post is EXTREMELY misleading

and if you read ALL of my post you'll see that I did say[u] tithing as a requirement [/u] is under the Law and therefore not applicable to us. BUT the spirit and practice of tithing, or if you want to call it giving a portion of your earnings to God is still very much alive in the NT.


We see all through the NT believers giving freely to the church and to the poor, that sets the precedence for us today. Whether or not you want to call it tithe is insignificant. What's important is giving of your earnings to God and the church for the advancement and growth of the kingdom. Whether it is 10% or 50% is between you and God.

  The poster is talking about completely suspending any giving to God in order to pay off debts, that will be wrong. If everyone in a church decided to stop giving in order to pay for other things, how is the church supposed to survive? However we give as we can, we give as God has given and enabled us. Some can give more, others less, the important thing is to still give!
  Have you thought about how Abraham paid a tenth (tithe) to Melchizedek BEFORE the Law was put into place by Moses? So even after the law what tells us that we should get rid of the practice?

JeSoul:

just like I thot, not one verse of scripture to back up anything you say

Esss:

@ poster

What shall it profit a man if he pays his tithe and yet has no peace of mind??

Oboy, I do not even believe in this tithe thing sef!! lets get real, you put your offerings every sunday, yet they want you to still fork out 10% of your earnings and hand over to them, while making pledges and planting seed faiths backed by your widows mite. Not forgeting the government is waiting for you on the outside with taxes, the banks with credit card bills and mortgages. Ah!! not forgetting a family back home who is waiting on yo to bring something back home.

The tithes were supposed to be paid to the levites, dude that was the old testament, and there are no levi's (not the jeans) anymore, all we have are oyakilome and okoties with benz's and escalades. It's like we have edited the bible and taken the parts we like and tossed the others. The money parts we love, the punishment parts we toss. Give and it shall be given unto you _{(we love),} if your eyes causes you to sin, pluck it offf _{(figure of speech)}, wake up people.

If you owe the bank or me money, tithe will not be a resonable excuse when we come to impound your cars or seize your house. the repo-men don't care bout that stuff.

NubianQ:


Correct tlk. God understands when we can't do things and he is there to see us through. well, to answer the Question, Yes i would suspend my tithes if i was in a position to pay tithes. being catholic, we don't get all that tithes and the 10 percent thing, we just give. so if you pay tithes and u are about to lose all u have and u are to choose between losing all your possessions and tithes i would say pay the bank! God is not harsh or impatient. man has his own imperfections and the most important thing is loving God and he can see that u had a situation to sort out. all u need to do is pay double when u get the money. simple!

HR.hotness:

OMG

u finally made it here

NubianQ:


hahahehehehe . i am trying to change. HR.hotness i am a changed woman. leave me alone oh!!!

fotodaddy:

Bible scholars beware; The letter kills but its the Spirit that gives life.

Try to know your God,