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Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by ceejayluv(m): 2:24pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
speedyboi:Enjoying? When the govt has virtually left everyone on his own. You can't have your cake and ear it. You're enjoying state of the art amenities and infrastructure in say, Amsterdam and you expect it to be free? Do people there have to dig their boreholes to get water? Do they have to "mobilise" police officers with cash before they can effect arrest and press charges on someone that robbed them? You think the taxes are for nothing? Would you rather not pay tax but carry jerrycans of water on your head every morning to fetch water hundreds of meters away? Ask any Nigerian living in any industrialised nation if he ever had to bribe an officer before his complains were looked into? We're not paying much taxes, mainly cos an average Nigerian is a tax defaulter, but we're also enjoying zilch benefits of taxation. That's an anachronism in this 21st century. 7 Likes |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by GatJokez(f): 2:25pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
ayobase: The state of California's minimum wage of $10 (N1,500) per hour to start by 2016. It seems it is about $8 (N1,200)at the moment. Ok here OP, your post is very biased and misrepresenting the truth. First off, why select CA, who has probably the highest minimum wage? In general, most states' minimum wage is around $7.50 per hour. Next, it is uncommon to work 10 hours per day and is total bs. A full time job is 8 hrs per day x 5 days per week = 40 hours per week. By law, anything over 40 hrs requires overtime pay and for that reason employers don't allow it. Now a days, most jobs hire part time, which means you get 20-25 hrs per week. Yup, deduct fees and taxes and there's nothing left to live on. Just to rent an apartment and pay basic expenses is close to impossible for minimum wage workers. Oh, like others said, CA min wage is not enough to live in a safe decent environment. Hope you don't believe what you wrote ![]() |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by LausDeo(m): 2:26pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
People just keep shouting tax like its going to be 50% of ur salary. I don't know what their tax system looks like but even if its 50% of your salary (which I'm sure is not), it will not be charged on your pay directly. You will have allowances and reliefs. And if you earn too little you only pay minimum tax. If the taxes were as high as people claim, how are Nigerians living well over there? I have a friend in the UK who learnt photography when he got there. He now has his own studio and he is also funding his education. |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by adconline(m): 2:33pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
mayten30: should we open a thread on nairaland and let people living in america to come and say if they up to 5000 dollars monthly?you will be surprised that only very few earn up to 5k dollars,stop deceiving urself,if you are doing a normal good job you can between 3200 dollars to 4500 dollars per month and which is about 50000 dollars per annum,but if you are into drug business I bet you you can even earn ten million dollars within a yearU don't need to open anything on NL. Numbers don't lie. Compare a gateman in Naija vs A gateman in US, lawyer vs lawyer, engineer vs engineer, banker vs banker, unemployed vs unemployed. Stop living in Denial! Venezuela's minimum wage is N63k/mnth, Sauidi $800, Iran about 50k. This sheer ignorance/denial is the reason why politicians ra-pe the country financially. 4 Likes |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by BarryX(m): 2:34pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
From all indications -- Half Bread is better than buns -- US Income after Tax is still better than Our 18,000 after tax We're our own government here from electricity to water and other "luxuries" ! No basis for comparison Only California GDP "UsainBolts" Nigeria GDP by earth radius! What's the point really? 1 Like |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by Nobody: 2:42pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
ceejayluv: Exactly my point! That's what most Nigerians don't understand. |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by LausDeo(m): 2:46pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
Just because we are able to evade taxes in Nigeria doesn't mean taxes are not high here. Thank God for the Personal Income Tax Amendment signed by GEJ. Beyond this, do you know how much Nigerians spend on providing the amenities which the govt fails to provide? And this is after paying for these service without enjoying them. Where I live, the community contributes to grade the roads because you won't get any response if you write to the local govt. The source of water is borehole, well, and rain? (though we don't pay for water seperately). We contribute #1500 monthly for security (this does not include some extra payments we make when we want to buy guns and bullets for the security men). I don't have to tell you how much we spend on electricity generation. We spent over #1m to connect a 'new' transformer given to us by the state govt. I don't think people in the US have do all this. If you check it, the tax won't be much different from what we 'pay' in Nigeria 4 Likes |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by imperiouxx(m): 2:52pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
ayobase: The state of California's minimum wage of $10 (N1,500) per hour to start by 2016. It seems it is about $8 (N1,200)at the moment. Who's this comparing 2 unequal situations? Different living expenses, different channels money goes. Even going beyond the 40 hrs per week. You're just seeking attention and you've got it on the frontpage. ![]() ![]() |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by eddyrymz(m): 2:56pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
life is not about ur salary 'but how u can utilize it to get max satisfaction .many persons earned much but nothing to write home about ... I'm gonna make my money in naija. Based on "Oluwa will not leave boy stranded" ..no be my fault , him don talk am. |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by hunter21(m): 3:00pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
by the time electricity becomes stable in Nigeria, the general cost of living would fall and you would not believe that it is the same nigeria we used to know. |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by 3ace(m): 3:01pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
manny4life:I agree with you but that still doesn't remove the fact that our minimum wage is paltry and needs to be increased. |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by Dannylux: 3:01pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
Home is home. Even if I'm given the opportunity to travel abroad and eventually become successful, nothing will hold me from coming back to Africa!! |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by doubleking(m): 3:08pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
Life is all about choice-if u choose CA fine and if u choose Nigeria also fine.to me d argurment is neither here nor there! |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by LausDeo(m): 3:08pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
hunter2,1:when will electricity become stable? 2020? |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by ceejayluv(m): 3:10pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
Dannylux: Home is home. Even if I'm given the opportunity to travel abroad and eventually become successful, nothing will hold me from coming back to Africa!!Until you go there, don't conclude. |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by armyofone(m): 3:10pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
@ manny, good AM ![]() SocS they are taking away from your paycheck is for your future. The state and federal tax is put into good use (things/amenities we all enjoy are not free even the air in USA is not free, yet we prefer that to polluted air. Medicare is also put into good use. If only soc, fed, state and Medicare are taking away from the peanutty naija salary ![]() manny4life: |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by ceejayluv(m): 3:14pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
3ace: I agree with you but that still doesn't remove the fact that our minimum wage is paltry and needs to be increased.Our minimum wage is subhuman... |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by emmatok(m): 3:15pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
pastor4real: @emmatok: You are wrong again. Most foreigners and citizens live by the minimum wage here, most of these foreigners have degree from there home countries but it is very difficult to get into the system here with your foreign education unless you are a doctor, pharmacist, nurse etc. With your degree you will end up with the minimum wage jobs. Ask our people with degree from Nigeria where they work. Most Nigerians with degree from Nigeria work in Parking lots, walmart store making $7.25, $8 or $9 an hour plus tips if you come across a good customer. Well in Nigeria degree holders also work has gateman,cleaners,dispatch riders and collect minimum wage. The fact is that a minimum wage earnings in US is better than Nigeria minimum wage earnings. Goods and services are cheaper in the US. With less than $1000 you will look good,fed well and get some essential electronics. Can you try that with 20000 per month in Nigeria. |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by holywoman: 3:19pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
No place like home. |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by papalbull(m): 3:22pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
If you think the land is greener on the other side,wait untill you get there and see for yourself. |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by MrMann1(m): 3:33pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
Arsenate: If you are honest with yourself, you would know that one can live on 500naira (about 3 dollars) per day (15000 naira per month) in almost all Nigerian towns. I strongly doubt if one can survive with 3 dollars per day in the most American cities.Even if you eat mama put everyday it won't reach you anywhere, remember you need fuel for your generator, you need to take cab/danfo somewhere, you need recharge card and many other stuff, abi woman wey dey buy pads or a guy wey wan barb him hair. #500 no reach anywhere bro. |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by jpphilips(m): 3:34pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
9jadelta: house a month in America costs about 1000 dollars a month I don't know about places like onitsha with high rise middle class flats, but I dont see 120k getting you a flat in good places like ph, lagos abeg no near abuja with that ridiculous budget. you should be talking of bed space or self con with such low budget. flat with 120k? is it in a village? |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by Acidosis(m): 3:35pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
Minimum wage in Nigeria = N18,000. While a entry level 8 BSc Holder in the civil service (Civil Defence for instance) = N115,000. Considering the factors that surrounds taxation in the country... I see no reason for complaints. |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by Bizibi(m): 3:35pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
It is good over there but the govt tax and other expenses eats deep into ones pocket,it is better nt just living solely on minimum wage there are other legit opportunities one can make meaningful income too,in nigeria we dnt pay taxes period.wht we get is wht we spend and save,yes the minimum wage is small but we need a structured and less corrupt system before we talk abt increasing it,bcuz if u increase it, everything will increase slightly and it will look small again to us |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by munaco: 3:36pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
the life over there is far far better. U cannot compare both. A cleaner in USA will earn $10 an hour, use the best facilities, good house, good car, good school. Oya now compare to Naija cleaner, No car, no good school, no good food. Let me stay in USA without savings as along as i can eat, make something meanifull and stay in a good house. A worker has no plan for future until he steal or hammer money in naija. 1 Like |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by bebe2(f): 3:38pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
am all for being patriotic and all that, but if u r here trying to persuade pple that life is easier on nigeria minimum wage than california's, u r deceiving urself. for those of us that has tasted both side (naija vs west) we are the one that can do the comparism and i say naija its a HORRIBLE PLACE for the way it treats the poor. 4 Likes |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by jpphilips(m): 3:41pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
mayten30: can you see how dumb u can be?an average amount u pay for a rent of 3 bedroom flat here in nigeria is around 400k or 500k per year,to get that same kind of house at usa you will spend at least 800 dollars per month depending on the state,800 dollars which is more than 120000 naira monthly,and about 9600 dollars in a year which is about 1.5 million naira,you never calclulate the taxes u go pay ooo,and also some other expenses,na people like u go dey complain say ur family member wey dey usa dey very stingy not knowing and understanding how things work over-there,because you here 8 dollars per hour u just quickly start to dey convert am enter naira and start to dey happy.lol.na the value of the naira make u feel say the money too much,imagine if 1 dollars equals just 10 naira that means 8 dollars per hour for 10 hours will be 800 naira in a day and about 24000 naira per month, 500k for 3 bedroom flat where? |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by Osama10(m): 3:42pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
Just a thought, What is the life expectancy of a Nigerian to that of an American both on minimum wage? |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by NEROSKY(m): 3:45pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
omajali2003: Maybe disappear n appear |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by MrMann1(m): 3:47pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
larger_20:Come back to naija nah, why complaining? |
Re: USA Minimum Wage Vs Nigeria Minimum Wage. by deniyor: 3:54pm On Sep 15, 2013 |
Minimum wage in both places have similar effect. In naija, you can't afford much. You can't afford anything in California with $10/hr. full time gives you about $1600 (based on 4 weeks of 40hrs a week). That's also assuming you do get full time hours. Deductions from your pay can be btw$ 400-$700 a month leaving you with net $900 - $1200. By the time you pay rent which is typically above $1000 a month, you have nothing left. This does not include utilities and we assume you have to forgo cable tv and Internet. We are yet to talk about health insurance (too expensive), transportation (100-200 a month). Feeding ($200 a month for basic groceries and home cooked meals). No room for luxury items yet as its almost impossible to afford anything at this point. Phone bills $50-$100 a month. At this point(payday), you are already looking for your next bill to help pay for the things not covered yet. And hopefully you don't have any dependants on that pay. 1 Like |
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